This week's most commented story: Council bosses quizzed over Norfolk incinerator bill
PUBLISHED: 12:41 09 June 2013 | UPDATED: 12:41 09 June 2013
This week's most commented story was that of Council bosses being quizzed over potential bill for pulling the plug on the Norfolk incinerator.
Out of the 108 comments, here are just a few which stood out.
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pig in trough
Has anyone noticed that all this discussion on the penalties and costs, including the threats to front line services, have distracted everyone from demands to make the contract public? Is it really good governance to whip up hysteria based on the experience of another local authority (Cornwall County Council) on the other side of the country some years ago? What does Cornwall have to do with Norfolk? Did we sign the same contract? Was it a government pro forma used for this major deals? Why are the NCC officers so against independent scrutiny of the contract and the decision making process involved in the Saddlebow incinerator? Was there not a proviso in the contract that covered the change of administration and thus priorities or was it assumed the Conservatives would rule in perpetuity?
I’m just starting to wonder if this can of worms is beginning to open up. Just look at the length of some of the threads elsewhere on the EDP. These show the anger of the Norfolk public (albeit, those who are interested). For what it’s worth I think that the ruling Tory council group (or at least some of them) were well aware of what was going on with the contract. Unlike one person on here I do not believe them to be illiterate idiots. Councillors and elected Officers are in it together (remember how Murphy has now tried to distance himself from the scheme). It may take some time but I am now convinced that much of the truth will eventually known to the public.
Isn’t it wonderful to have some fresh air blowing into County Hall? This is an auspicious start for the new term. Well done to Cabinet Scrutiny Panel. What delights will Full Council debate on the 17th bring? Shouldn’t councillors see the report and unabridged contract (plus schedules) first?
What concerns me greatly in the case of these major local authority procurements is this. They take a lot of time to put to bed, and in that time the local authority officers responsible often become too closely involved with their counterparts on the contractor’s side. Added to that, a role in a successful project can provide the springboard to the next career move. (Reference in that respect to Joel Hull’s entry on the Linkedin networking website has already been made.) The net result is a potential loss of objectivity, and a potential conflict of interest. Bear in mind also that the elected members do not take part in any aspect of the contract negotiations, but are just faced with a decision to make on the basis of a final report from those officers. Why, at the end of yesterday’s meeting, were the officers more concerned to speak to the Cory Wheelabrator representative in private than the NCC members also present at the meeting, including the Cabinet member responsible for waste?
You lot were all praising Nobbs a few weeks ago along with others. Best thing since sliced bread. Now he won’t do your bidding he is no good all of a sudden and must resign. How fickle is that? You must be daft if any of you really thought you had the slightest chance of a council in these tough times throwing £90 million in the dustbin just to quieten down a handful of noisy nimbys. You are stuck with your choice. You made the bed and now you have to rest on it. Nobbs is your man.
Let’s get this straight, no one is asking the council to spend the stupid amount of £90 million. This is just a figure put forward by the officers to try and convince the not so bright in our community that there is no way out of the contract. The correct option is that agreed by the scrutiny committee this week, to obtain a independent report detailing the CORRECT costs and the various options.
If NCC had not got involved with a company with violations as long as your arm for pollution and fraud the public may have trusted them running an incinerator. NCC and Cory demolished the Tory Party in Norfolk. Langwade Mickleburg Rockcliffe and the Murphys helped to dismantle the Tory party dominance in West Norfolk.
Interesting comment from George Nobbs on the Cabinet Scrutiny Committee’s proposal on the LN website “The sooner we can agree it, the sooner we have a way forward.”
You can’t get rid of this scheme. Even the most simple minded Labour voter knows that. Who in their right mind would dispose of something that has taken ten years of planning and will cost £90 million ? Even Nobbs is not that silly. They will have to build it. Anyone can see that.