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There may be trouble ahead for Norwich City if this carries on, says Alex Neil

08:42 04 February 2016

Norwich City manager Alex Neil is looking forward to a Premier League trip to Leicester City. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Norwich City manager Alex Neil is looking forward to a Premier League trip to Leicester City. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

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Alex Neil hopes some stinging home truths can pull Norwich City out of a Premier League tailspin.

Harry Kane of Tottenham Hotspur celebrates scoring his sides 2nd goal from the penalty spot during the Barclays Premier League match at Carrow Road, Norwich
. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images LtdHarry Kane of Tottenham Hotspur celebrates scoring his sides 2nd goal from the penalty spot during the Barclays Premier League match at Carrow Road, Norwich . Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Neil aims to stop the rot at rock-bottom Aston Villa on Saturday after making it clear to his players they are heading the same way as the Villans.

The Canaries slumped to a fourth consecutive top flight defeat in a 3-0 home loss to Tottenham that exposed more defensive frailty.

“There is no sugar-coating it, we need to start winning games,” he said.

“As a squad if we don’t quickly realise we need to get our finger out and win more games it is going to be tough. It has been a big job from the start. There have been no qualms about that and this little run of four games we have lost has been extremely disappointing.

“If we are going to have any ambitions of competing and staying in this league we are going to have to play better than we did in the first half (against Tottenham). It is simple as that.”

Fragile confidence is not an issue worrying Neil after a desperate run of results.

“They won’t take picking up. They are professional football players,” he said.

“Whenever you are involved in football, see, all you do then is look forward to the next one because it is a chance to put it right.

“That determination, that work ethic and pride you should have when you get beat comes to the fore. That is when the best players stand up and prove how good they are.

“We have brought in some new players and I am happy with what I have done with the squad, but we don’t have time to let them settle in.

“They have to hit the ground now and perform and do what they were brought here to do, and that goes for the players who were already here as well.”

Norwich stayed out of the relegation zone ahead of this weekend’s trip to Villa Park courtesy of Newcastle United’s 3-0 Premier League defeat at Everton on Wednesday.

What must Neil do to pull the Canaries out of this slump? Let us know what you think at norfolksport@archant.co.uk

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161 comments

  • We are not Bolton or Portsmouth thank God only because D & M stood up to take over the club when nobody else came forward and they were solid when we went to the 1`s Division and finances were fragile. For this we are profoundly grateful But this is all in the past. Now our manager must hold his hand up to take responsibility for the present dismal showing and the board who made changes by the Jan window were not alert in the purchasing area in the Summer which cost us quality players that would have made a difference. This club of great potential and its superb supporters deserves better,far better.

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    mardler

    Monday, February 8, 2016

  • Golf canary . Are you serious the money that D S payed Mr Chase shares are safe and since then she bought some more of the late Mr Watling , and she could always sell at the same price she paid but now the club is dept free and money in the bank her shares are know worth more . Also all the other money she put in where all loans and she had ever pound back so if she did deside to sell she would make money on her shares so D is not going to loose any money . The only thing she put in is her time etc .

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    City M

    Saturday, February 6, 2016

  • Indeed, GolfCan, we may well have been shafted but for Dee & Mick, but was all their wealth at risk? Really? I cannot envisage either of these intelligent business people having to doss in the St. Stephens Underp!ss, with or without a malodorous dog. What distresses me is the lack of recognition afforded to Kneel Donkeystar. He was great.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • When we went down to Div 1 the club was £20M in debt. This was largely guaranteed at the bank by Delia and Michael. Had Paul Lambert not been found by McNally and lifted us back to the Premiership then all Delia and Michael's wealth was at risk. Sadly, some of the folk who add comments to this message board bring nothing to the club other than negative views.

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    GolfingCanary

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • "There may be trouble ahead for Norwich City if this carries on, says Alex Neil'. Clever, isn't he? I can see why he is the manager....

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    locallad

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • On the subject of Delia and the board,I know we all come on here and praise,winge,slate,but that's because we are all passionate about our club,how we play how we don't play,the board this,the board that,but believe you me there are 72 clubs, that doesn't include the top non league divisions as well who would give their eye teeth to be where we are and how we are run,you can all laugh,but I would bet my pension on it !!. At this moment in time imagine being a Bolton supporter,so thank your lucky stars.Oh 2.0 city tomorrow

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    butty

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • What we are trying to tell you Tom ,is that attending matches, away or home, is no big deal. I find the PL experience is clinical and soul less. Thats why I have a season ticket in the Evo Stik Northern Premier. They actually thank you for turning up and have a couple of real ales (from Cornwall - not Doombarcrap) that you can drink whilst watching the game. And before you mention it , I did spend £320 on individual match tickets at the Carra last season.

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    Steely Dan

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • City M Are you Stanley Unwin reincarnated.

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    61canarie

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Malaga flair . DSmith did not put her part of the club officially up for sale world wide so how can you exspect any serious buyers come forwards when we where in divion one she did say something about selling her interest in City but when things started to turn around and we where at the top of that league she change her mind. But nobody will make millions of pounds investment into this club with out them wanting to take full control of the club and if she though other wise then she is -------------

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    City M

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Carnaryboy65' I said I don't dwell in the past its all history the futcher that's matters you can't go back and change its what happen in the coming years and what direction this club is going in , are they going to go forwards or backwards. At this moment it's going backwards because the board can never learn from its past mistakes that have be made in the previous spell in the premireship that concerns me.

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    City M

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Cheers Archie . . . . is that comment just for me above the text box? You could make it more personal (duplicate)

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Well well Steely, you've gone up in my estimation. Bravo. A real life away day experience. Oh . . . . I never had a pram. I was born raised in the woods. I'm feral, brought up by a half domestic dog in a litter of puppies, before being rejected, hence my aversion to Geezer. Don't worry about me though, I can now walk upright. I still can't walk past road kill without wanting to chomp on a leg【ツ】

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • MOGS were going to Villa when you were still in your pram Tommy. No pre booked seats. Just paid at the turnstile and walked in. No booking two months ahead. If you had a rough Friday night you didn't turn up at the station, otherwise you went.

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    Steely Dan

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Good luck to all our lot going tomorrow. Balti pies taste much better than you'd think btw. Had no idea the Villa boxes were so exotic now - five years since I last went I guess. As Superfan Tommy says, please don't lose. Crucial match.

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    el dingo

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • SO pleased you'll be at Villa Canaryboy65. It restores SO much faith in fellow NCFC supporters. I have to say I may inflict a black mark on my away record this season by not going to Swansea. It's a 50 - 50 call at the moment. How I enjoy the nightlife on Wind Street though. Those Swansea guys and gals are a sight to behold in the early hours . . . . anyway, I digress. Villa. Early start, late getting home. Sampling the proper Balti pies. Always amuses me to see the corporate boxes in the North End with their bright colour drapes and South Asian décor. And another thing . . . . their fans at the front in the North End will be toxic for 90 minutes. Please, please, please don't lose.

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Neil is clearly right but then he is stating the obvious. Perhaps he himself needs to listen to some home truths about how messing around with the team and formation every week is contributing to our downfall as also is the fact he has basically thrown his footballing philosophy out of the window as a result of a stupid tactical mistake against Newcastle leading to a freak result that did not reflect the balance of play in that game. He also needs to get back to basics and get the team back playing a positive, high tempo, pressing game because we are so much better when on the front foot. Oh and pick Wes for every game save for if injured because we can;t win without him.

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    Jim

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Yes Putney. Cullum is-was an insurance giant. What you say is accurate. As for the post about Tan and his relatives we have just had a new board appointment:-)

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    el dingo

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Malaga, I couldn't agree more with you post. Delia and MWJ were the saviours of this club when we were in dire straits. With passion and money they have put us on the footballing map with nothing like the bankroll of the big boys. You only have to look at Tan at Cardiff, he decided that the club long known as the Bluebirds should play in red, that a successful manager should be shipped out and one of his totally inept relatives be appointed, and another example at Hull City who should change their traditional name to the rugby club name of Hull Tigers on a whim. Just two of several so called rich owners who don't have a clue about our national game and its traditions. We will probably never have a billionaire investor, and it doesn't necessarily guarantee success, just ask QPR who have had Ecclestone, Briatore and Fernandes throw money at them to no avail. As Malaga says, get off Delia and Michaels back and be grateful for what they have done for this club. Can't go to Villa on Saturday 'cos of work, and anyway, last time I went up in the car, some ba**ard smashed my side window. Just as an aside, did City M actually go to school and learn to spell and punctuate, or is he still there... learning?

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    oldtimer

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Delia Smith and her husband saved this club and is Norwich City through and through. So I find the kind of criticism of her I am seeing in some quarters totally unjustified. The fact is they do not have the financial clout that owners of some other PL clubs enjoy but that has not stopped them from giving our club 100 per cent support over the years, especially in our dire moments. I expect that if anyone came in with the right credentials and proof of sufficient funds to take the club forward they would look seriously at selling. But, as afar as I know, no such potential owner has appeared. And as other have said before, beware what you wish for! There are monied people out there who are always looking at sniffing out financial opportunities. But very often their motives are suspect to say the least. Do we want to see the club, as at Man U, bought with the purchase loan debt then transferred to the club? Or a buyer who just wants an expensive toy and who would soon tire of it?

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    malaga flier

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Oops! Didn't mean to put both Jarvis and Brady in there. Would start Brady and have Jarvis on the bench. If i was going to put an extra man in there, it would be in defence, and heaven knows we need it there!!

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    MichiganCanary

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Putney, can't say I blame her. £20 million doesn't buy much nowadays. Look at Newcastle and what they have spent. I'm happy that the current board have our best interests at heart. A lot of posters on here have unrealistic expectations

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    Canaryboy65

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • ...is (or was)... Not "isn't was". Ruddy iPad.

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    PutneyCanary

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • CanaryBoy - there isn't was one. He tried to buy the club off Delia when we were in or around League 1 - I think it was shortly before we got relegated from the Chump. In that position and he said he'd buy and put something like 20m in the transfer kitty. Delia wouldn't sell because she seemed to think at the time that her shares were worth their par value. Of course, they are now, but back then they definitely were not. Can't remember the guys name - Peter Cullum I think. who knows how genuine it was - but Delia definitely wasn't up for walking away with a loss...

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    PutneyCanary

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Just a few thoughts - first is I don't think that 40 points this year will be enough to avoid relegation. I suspect that 45 will be closer to the total needed. . . . Secondly, the secret is a team game. . . Rarely do NC actually look like a team, rather they look like 11 individuals having a kick around. Even AV look like an organised team, even if they don't look like a good side. . . . Finally them, get the side playing as a team, a team who works for each other and wants to play for each other. . . . The fine tuning of finding the best for each position can come when we have a team . . . and surprisingly, that is what the manger gets paid for . . . continue the way things are going and relegation is a cert, the only question being will AV get more points, play as a team and there will be hope of survival.

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    manbythesea

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Plus it's good fun. Also going to Leicester and Swansea. My poor little car is in for a shock. I much prefer away games. Better atmosphere and more knowledgeable fans. IMHO

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    Canaryboy65

    Friday, February 5, 2016

  • Old Tommy, you can eat your words on my part. I'm there on Saturday and will be cheering the boys on lustilly saving any ire for those Villa so and soes. Have never forgiven them for the time I was drinking in The Holte Endpub in the eighties and one of them stated that people from Norwich talk funny. Might still have the odd bruise from the discussion that followed. I apologise if my interaction with City Man offends you but I am thinking of applying for a job at GCHQ and need some code breaking practice. OTBC COYY

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I am sorry I am totally bored now with everything AN says he needs to start walking the walk and forget talking. He has made mistake after mistake and his time may well be up come Saturday

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I'll sing on my own ! Standard !

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • 25 minutes . . . . nope. Says it all. All bluster. Surely we have posters that go to away games? Help me . . . . Sydney? Malaga? Surrey? Rick? 61? kpg24uk? superfan? Raisedeyebrows? rament? Emin Babayev? Suffolk Exile? OTFBC? harry mcardle? . . . . . and the rest ZZZZzzzzzz!!!!

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I'd bet £50 that 95% of posters won't be travelling to Villa. Hands up if you'll be there! I'll buy you all a pint in the Royal Oak . . . . . anyone? Anyone?

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Jeez . . . . bed wetters R US are busy tonight !

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Calm down dear! It's football, nowt else! See you all at Villa!

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City Man, if you don't know what the past was how can you say we're going backwards? 7 years ago we were in League 1, we're nowhere near going down that route. Your plan for achieving success, based on previous posts, is to go down the Leeds route and gamble the future of the club in the hope of achieving success. That method doesn't work, the teams that have tried that and failed are too numerous to list. If you don't learn from the mistakes of the past then you are doomed to repeat them in the future. you need to build things slowly in our position., finances dictate that. You say you are unhappy with the board, fair enough, then name who want to run the club. Do you know any multi billionaire Norwich fans? If so please get them involved in the club. If you can't name anyone then your grumblings are pointless. We can all fantasise about rich owners sadly reality is different. For my part I am hoping to win big on the lottery and will then make a hostile takeover bid. As for Ray Hodgson I was referring to his Swiss Role (insert own joke here).

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canaryboy65 you have forgot one thing every pound DSmith put into this club she had every pound back the same goes for any other board member who put money in this club how do I know because McNally said so a few mouths ago . So she is no saint or God .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • MC has found the answer. Play 12 players. Surely then we'll win...! I have to say, I really don't get the 'sack the manager' vibe that seems to be growing. And some even suggesting Adams as the answer...! Um? Didn't cut it before, even in the Chump, so not sure what he'll do better than AN now. But I do find it very interesting hat when we win, there's usually about 30-40 comments. When we lose, it often breaches the 100 mark. I guess some people only want to post complaints - which probably has the effect of making public fan sentiment seem far more negative than perhaps it really is. For me, well, I wanted 17th this season. We're currently in 17th even after (or during) a bad run. So it would seem to me that AN is performing reasonably well. To the people who want him out - were you expecting to be top half or something?

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    PutneyCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Ray the Crab? No thanks, we already know how to go sideways into danger! If he's depressed it just serves him right for the pain he caused those of us watching him playing for England. Yes, by all means find him a flat by (any) river, maybe the builders will have left a few bricks behind for his pockets!?

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    whereareyou

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canary 65 . I do not follow The England team or its present or past managers never watch them either I not patriotic man or dwell on the past or what D Smith has done in the past either my only concerns are the futcher and where this club is going and hopefully not backwards but, I beleave that's what is going to happen you know this board never has learn from past mistakes . That's way we takes one step forward and two steps backward sorry but this will never change under the present owners and board because they will never change the way they do things and yes 75% of the fans are happy with this but there are a lot that don't , and want this club to go forwards and stay in the premireship.

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Trev at least he'll get the defence passing sideways instead of backwards

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Didn't know ray Wilkins was in the job market, ideal right hand man, give him some anti depressants, offer what he wants and find him a nice flat by the river.

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    trev57

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City Man, that's very gracious of you to concede I am partly right whereas you are totally right. I respect your right to your opinions however blind arrogance in your own beliefs is a dangerous thing. However the world would be boring if we all thought the same!. Have to say your attack on Delia and the board is outrageous. Michael and her have put over half their net wealth into the club to save it from the financial crisis inherited from Mr Chase. How many owners have done that? The club is now financially secure and hopefully will be going strong well after I'm gone. As far as I'm concerned she can do what she wants. I don't buy the foreign manager view you love. Apart from the stand out guys the others are as mediocre as ours. I'll give one example of a British manager who has done it abroad at both club and international level - Roy Hodgson. I think it's best for us to agree to disagree. We both have the best interests of the club at heart and that's all that matters.

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • MichiganCanary, Not a bad line-up except you have TWELVE players! Therein lies the problem with picking 2 holding midfielders. Personally I'd swap Howson for Mulumbu and put Jarvis on the bench. City M, what about Bobby Robson, Terry Venables, Roy Hodgson, John Toshack and Graeme Souness, off the top of my head?

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City M:- Just translated your last posting and see no British managers have any success abroad. Try Sir Bobby Robsen at Barcelona . Try Terry Venables at Barcelona and as for British managers never being any good look at Sir Alf Ramsey winning the World Cup, Jock Stein leading Celtic to a European Cup win, the first British club to do so. These may be in the past but that does not deminish their importance. Getting late or I would sink you with some more facts, this time more up to date.

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    61canarie

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City M:- Just translated your last posting and see no British managers have any success abroad. Try Sir Bobby Robsen at Barcelona . Try Terry Venables at Barcelona and as for British managers never being any good look at Sir Alf Ramsey winning the World Cup, Jock Stein leading Celtic to a European Cup win, the first British club to do so. These may be in the past but that does not deminish their importance. Getting late or I would sink you with some more facts, this time more up to date.

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    61canarie

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City M, Your dislike of Delia is totally uncalled for. Without her there would not be a Norwich City FC for you to write on here and give your unbeliveable views. I dont suppose you were there at carrow rd last night supporting the u18's but Delia, her husband and her elderly mother were there supporting our lads with tremendous enthusiasm. Without this enthusiasm ( and there financial support) you would not have a team to write about. Shame on you.

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    Timberman

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Carnary65 , yes some of what you say in true how many uk managers have done well in charge of clubs board ? No that I an think of that says it all . And yes young manager have to learn but not at this level to much at stake learn in lower leagues or under a exspaireance manger win and learn down there ,money talks In everything in life . I want to see city have a long term futchure in the premireship but it will never happen under this board they never learn from past mistakes. Wether you want to beleave it or not .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canary boy 65 as you say the board are not my cup of tea and I hate that quote and I never like D Smith since the day she took over and her board as most fans already no this . I don't care what other fans think we are all entitled to our own views I am all for foreign managers they are better and have better method in training and getting good players to sign for a clubs and get there best out of them why do you think Leicter and West Ham are do so well because they have a good exspaireance foreign managers and I would like to see Leicster city win the title , and no I don't drink .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City Man, if that's what you meant then fair enough, however it doesn't read that way. The reason there are so many oversees managers is that due to the high turnover of managers, clubs in their panic to find a quick fix have used up most of the British talent or don't trust it, and go abroad to find the instant fix success. The high turnover shows this approach isn't working. Clubs need to give managers time to become a success, as Man United did with Sir Alex. Personally I hope the board does the same with AN. If that means relegation to become stronger so be it.

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • RB - sorry, must have missed you and Jimhow calling for Wisdom. I think I would play Ruddy on Saturday, as Rudd has not performed that much better than JR, and do agree he organizes the defence better. Villa a good game to bring him back and build confidence. As far as the rest, Wisdom, Bennett, Klose, Olsson, O'Neil, Mulumbu, Jarvis, Hoolahan, Brady, Naismith, Mbokani. Would likely sub Mbokani for Bamford early second half, unless Mbokani scoring a few. This should become pretty much a fixed 11 going forward, with Tettey coming in for Mulumbu unless he is starring. Give them a few games to get settled, as I don't think we have a much stronger 11 than this. Also work the midfield in training at getting back to give cover when we lose the ball, as Watford did last night against Chelsea. Only make changes to the starting 11 one at a time and only if absolutely called for. Use subs as needed - hopefully mainly for tiredness, as they should all be woking their butt's off to quote a quaint Americanism.

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canaryboy65 , if you read it again I said apart from the foreign Villa manager who took over the club in a mess they have been that way for several season now and it might well be good for them to go down to rebuild and sort the club out .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City Man I'll have a glass of what you're drinking. You totally invalidate your argument by quoting Remi Garde at Villa as proof that foreign managers are better. On 13 points, not one player signed in the window and meekly giving into relegation is hardly awe inspiring. I don't disagree that some foreign managers are better but totally refute your idea that British managers are poor. In fact, barring Wenger the average in post time is eighteen months and this season has seen the highest turn over ever. This suggests that the recent trend of hiring foreign managers isn't as cracked up as it's meant to be. As for the board, they may not be your cup of tea but they have the long term future of the club at heart. To suggest they don't care about relegation on financial grounds is ludicrous, surely they would want to stay up and get their hands on the filthy lucre if that was their motivation?

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • At the end of the day it's down to playing a settled team,which we haven't all season,if the same players play week in week out,they don't have to be superstars,ask Leicester,Bournmouth,Watford ect,the players would know their positions,they would know who's covering who,they would know where to put the ball and when,it's so obvious week in week out they would have confidence in each other. Surely even ordinary footballers like we were once playing Saturday's and Sunday's felt a lot more confident playing with the same players every week barring injuries,the pros must be the same especially as far as the defence is concerned. Going back to Bournmouth again,Eddie Howe was slated at the beginning of the season with his tactics but he knew with the players he had it would come right and it has,but also he plays the same team every week barring injuries not just this year,but right thru Bournmouths rise up thru the ranks.Leicester the same. None of these teams on paper have anymore quality than us bar a couple of brilliant strikers,it's a case of picking your best 11 and sticking with them

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    butty

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • At the end of the day it's down to playing a settled team,which we haven't all season,if the same players play week in week out,they don't have to be superstars,ask Leicester,Bournmouth,Watford ect,the players would know their positions,they would know who's covering who,they would know where to put the ball and when,it's so obvious week in week out they would have confidence in each other. Surely even ordinary footballers like we were once playing Saturday's and Sunday's felt a lot more confident playing with the same players every week barring injuries,the pros must be the same especially as far as the defence is concerned. Going back to Bournmouth again,Eddie Howe was slated at the beginning of the season with his tactics but he knew with the players he had it would come right and it has,but also he plays the same team every week barring injuries not just this year,but right thru Bournmouths rise up thru the ranks.Leicester the same. None of these teams on paper have anymore quality than us bar a couple of brilliant strikers,it's a case of picking your best 11 and sticking with them

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    butty

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Jimhow, I agree with your judgements, especially regarding our best back four. Robin Sydney, your selection makes less sense. Pinto's next chance should be in Summer pre-season friendlies. As a defendensive RB he rates below, Wisdom, RM & SW. 90% of posts here point out that constant changes have weakened us, yet you discard the developing relationship between Mbok and Naismith in favour of an 'iffy' Bamford? You drop Declan when, save for one weak handoff, he can hardly be faulted for other goals. Lucioperca, you stress the importance of defence, then pick both Ruddy and PINTO???? duh! MichiganCanary, not no-one. I've been calling for Wisdom's return as soon as fit from injury and Jimhow, also!

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • DaveG - illuminating stats and just confirms what a lot of us have been saying all season - that many of our players do not put in the required effort and commitment. That is especially true of our midfield and wide men who all too often shirk their defensive responsibilities. As you say there can never be any excuse for lack of the work ethic. Maybe part of the problem is that AN is constantly putting players in positions which do not suit them and which they are unaccustomed to being in. But players themselves must take most of the blame because once on the pitch nothing less than total commitment is expected whatever the mitigating circumstances. In the end, though, the buck stops at AN as manager. He has to get his tactics and team selections correct and has to motivate his players to perform to their maximum potential on the pitch. Unfortunately he and Hughton share some common traits, mostly in their use of players and in a seeming obsession in developing tactics to counter our opponents and chopping and changing the team in consequence, rather than letting them worry about us. We all know how it ended with Hughton. Let's hope the end game is not the same under AN, although at the moment that is starting to look all to possible.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I don't beleave the board are concerned about going down again because they now they will still be millions in pockets. And don't care about the fans anymore .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Someone show City M where the full stop and comma are. I almost suffocate while reading his novel length sentences.

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    DaveG

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Oh no, City M just pipped me for the 100th post prize. Reading his comments reminds me of how back in time before the web you had to write a meritorious letter to the Pink Un to make public your views on the running of NCFC. "Splendid chap Sir Arthur and Lol Morgan an outstanding prospect as manager. Could do with a new right back, Yours etc, Lincs."

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    Lincs Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Mr McNally, Offer Ray Wilkins £1M for 4 months work alongside AN. If it works then it's money well spent, if not then you may have helped Ray overcome depression, at least for a while.

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    GolfingCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Dave 123 . Spot on blame the board for a mess up in the summer transfers market and they panic buys in January and doubt if they will save city from being relegated some have moaned about Pinto who bought him Alex Neil and McNally looks to be a wast of money at the moment . The board and owns will have to exspect the consequences for another mess in the premireship they will never learn by past mistakes not as long as they are in control of Norwich and have let the fans down yet again.

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I would much rather have a bad run now than later. Southampton had theirs before Christmas so did Swansea so lets watch WBA and Bournemouth very closely...its not a 4 horse race re relegation trust me.

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    Robin Sydney

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Very active comments board. Just to think 2 wins 29 points. Unfortunately our last 3 games this season are tough same as when we went down. Lets beat Villa like we did Sunderland away and get a few others involved in this relegation battle. We need to be positive we have the players to stay up and none of us thought we would get promoted last season but we did. I think we all just want our team to play with passion and energy fast and flowing football....so Villa is where it needs to start. We are not down yet. Newcastle were smashed by Everton. Our team if we play well can beat Man Utd. Nearly beat West Ham draw with Arsenal and Everton and beat Southampton so every game I suggest except Man City we can get points if we play the right team with confidence.

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    Robin Sydney

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canary boy , Alex Ferguson was one of the great managers but you may not see one like him again sorry but foreign managers seem to do better in the prem look at Villa there foreign manager took control of a club that's been in a mess for several seasons it going might be good for them going down to sort them out . Look at the league it speak for it self all the club in the bottom half are struggerling with uk base managers and the one that are mid table and higher upwards have foreign managers but don't have billionaire owners . Leicester might be billionaire owners but not spent millions that's says it all.

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • @whereareyou, that idea of recreating the Ointment Scene has great merit. Replacing the soothing balm with freshly mixed-from-powder Colman's English Mustard. That'll bring the tears to ole Michael's eyes or somewhere. Do it in the centre circle as part of the warm-up. Let's be 'avin' you!!

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • No-one has said anything about playing Wisdom - I thought he was doing well once he got a few games under his belt. Maybe he should be played against Villa and allow Pinto more time to adapt. We cannot afford the defence going to sleep against Villa - if they beat us, then psychologically we are down, and the players will know it. I also hope AN has the team really fired up for Saturday. If they are not, then the manager has not got control of the dressing room.

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I don't know why you are all whining, if they go down they have a good championship squad and a good chance of bouncing back up again, if they stay up they have a poor premier squad and next season would end up just the same as this one, is it not better playing teams you can beat than teams you may never beat.

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    trev57

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Nothing like stating the bl**ding obvious. 'Nuff said.

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    AssaRummunInnit?

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Well do something about it!

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    Keep it Low

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Players with all the qualities of passion talent and work rate over the past couple of seasons? Snodgrass gone. Bradley Johnson gone. Grabben went anyway. Two losses and one gain with Naismith. If the other two were still here with him what a difference it would have made.

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    Canterbury Tales

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Most of our problems come from not tracking back, not closing down in packs and general lack of effort. Premier league stats show that on average we run six miles less than Bournemouth, Spurs teams etc every game. That is 1,000 yards per outfield player per game. Or 50 x 20 yard sprints to track back, pressurise or hunt down the ball. There are excuses for occasional lack of concentration, but not for being constantly out ran.

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    DaveG

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Whoever think Saturday's game is not a 'must win' then I strongly suggest you have a look at the fixture list and see where we can pick up points. I cannot see us getting anything in March or May, so this month is vital and realistically only about 7 games which we can target.

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    OTFBC

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Ah well, win, lose or draw, we can have a good singsong at Villa Park - perhaps Delia and Michael could recreate the Nurse Whalley and Michael's Gambon scene?

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    whereareyou

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Russ is not our best RB, pinto been disappointing so far so give him a rest and 're instate Wisdom, at least he knows how to defend, if Brady plays Jarvis doesn't, likewise if Wes plays the leave Howson out. Sick of seeking out of position players being put in just because AN doesn't seem to want to drop them.

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    Jimhow

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • @whereareyou; Mea culpa, I've never been good at those abbreviation things. I've only just realised that OTBC doesn't actually mean On The Ball City. All those years... I see now how you justify ascribing blame to Paddy - he has coined a cliché, credited (debited?) it to Alex, then used it as a headline. I made the error of trying to defend young D'Vott - as I frequently do. A weakness of mine. Never again. Alex should sue D'Vott for the likes of misrepresentation.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • He should know his best Players by now He needs to pick them and play them in their rightful positions so as to get the best out of them. He should then have the courage of his convictions and concentrate on how he wants to play rather than chopping and changing the team to try and nullify certain Opposition players. Let them worry about us. For what it is worth i would play Rudd .Martin, Bennett,Klose, Ollson, as back 4, then Naismith, O'Neill, Wes and Brady across the Middle and Bamford playing off Mbokani up front. Rudd has done nothing to deserve being left out. Martin is the best RB we have. Klose can play left CB as well as right. Naismith and Brady right and left midfield can both defend as well as attack and have pace. We should only play one holding midfielder because we need to play Wes to create chances and we need 2 upfront because playing one has not worked.If Wes is subbed then Howson can come on and play centre midfield which ,again his proper position. I would then like to see us play with a high back line and press forward at a high tempo. At present we look no different than under Hughton and we have a much stronger Squad than he had. Play the best team as often as possible and play to win each game as Pl did. If we still go down ,at least we gave it our best shot.

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    irongloves

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Mick McCarthy?? behave! Our midfielders would all get neck injuries from watching the ball go high over their heads

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Saturday's game is not a must win but defiantly should win , been looking at the other teams ,AV are dire , next is Sunderland , Newcastle don't look that bad I think they will pull away , WB , Swansea and Bournemouth don't impress , it's goin to be one hell of a fight , we can do it mathamaticly , don't think so , hope so . Team must get motivated and fight till the 90 min don't sulk do what your paid to do , best defence is attack why does AN not play 2up front got nothing to loose , might pick up some points I would rather win 6-5 than lose 1nil . Hope my prediction is wrong .please fight and give it all that's all we ask.

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    iMac

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Brewmeister: sorry, but I thought you would have known what STBO was. The "article" was full of examples, though "Trouble Ahead" clearly came straight from "Chairman Patrick's Bonzer Book of Cliches", far more extensive than his thoughts, collected or otherwise. Funny how the scene you mentioned sprung to mind as soon as I saw the headline; brought a tear to the eye, as it did to poor Phil's!

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    whereareyou

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I don't know from where Emin Babayev has come (Leningrad ?). However he seems to have a good knowledge of the European soccer scene and is welcome. I agree with Waclor's comments re. Mad Mick. For the last 4 or 5 years he has taken an ,on paper, average Championship side into the play off region. He seems to know his best line up and rarely makes changes other than for injuries etc.

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • It's not maybe trouble ahead it is trouble ahead with Bassong and Martin in the pack..Its down to you Alex you keep leaving Ryan Bennett out for your favourites what do you expect .Bet both Bassong and Martin will be in on Saturday.

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    El tel

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • While I don't want to become too critical of AN, being realistic it is hard to conclude that he hasn't made the most of what he has because even a team of average talent can often be moulded into an effective unit, capable of being competitive by being well organised, combative, having a desire to work hard together and a never-say-die attitude. I am not sure we have any of these attributes in any measure. I do not like the way the likes of Pulis and Big Sam set up their team sand play but one thing they do know and that is how to get the most out of their players. Yes they are phlegmatic but they are realists who know the only thing that matters is winning. To this end I agree that AN needs a director of football, an experienced mentor at his side to help and advise. But unfortunately we are getting past the point where any such appointment can be effective as time and games are starting to run out. The other worry is whether we have the players who are prepared to stand up and be counted ? Aside from the ins and outs of the Bradley Johnson saga, we could certainly do with characters like him at the moment. While Brad had his limitations, he was a warrior on the pitch, someone who was prepared to mix it and get going when the going got tough. Finally, we need a captain and inspiration on the pitch, one who is a natural leader. Maybe Naismith is in that mould?

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • relegation is a certain possibility so watch out. the manager has not moved up a gear like the guy at bournemouth.they invested well pre-season and invested to inprove in the current window.we sat on our backsides and watched and now have tried to buy our way out of trouble with 14 games to go , it never works,the clubs up north will make sure near neighbors get the points the need to avoid a long trip down here. as much as we try we are a championship club with the same outlook.we will be in a relegated position by easter

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    AOTWAY@BTINTERNET.COM

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Villa should be a faily easy game for anyone at the moment as they seem to have given up all chance of staying up, but looks to me that the reason they are going down is too many new faces and too many team changes, bit like Norwich, if for some unknown reason Norwich lose against villa then its championship bound, but don't despair, law of averages shows it won't be long before they are back up again once again fighting relegation, its better to be fighting for something rather than mid table mediocrity.

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    trev57

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Our goalkeeper, whoever plays, is always left seriously exposed (so to speak), with little defensive support. Most are the defenders are always trying to back pass, and playing with the ball infront of their own goal, and ultimately end up giving it away for an easy oppostion goal. Redmond has speed, but wont run with the ball. When he gets to half way line he stops and looks to pass backwards or sideways. Just keep running and terrorise the opposition defence. I dont know why the players do this, but they do it every week, maybe its ANs instructions, I dont know.

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    Henry

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Robin Sydney - I just scrolled down and see we have the same XI. I think Jarvis is better in front of Pinto and offers more protection - definitely think Redmond will have a part to play though!

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    OTFBC

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Dave @the crown, agree with all your comments except keeping AN , while I don't like any one being sacked and he seems a decent bloke but I think he is out of his depth , his body language on Tuesday showed he was puzzled as to what to do , we need a manager who can motivate the players and assess the game and sect the right teams also rectify and identify playing errors. We could still survive mathamaticly but the players have to believe and give all , as said they sulk when a goal down by dont they fight like we used to , GH was a lasso. Player to do that ,the best defence is attack try two up front what have we got to loose , naf all

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    iMac

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • We do not need attacking full backs, we need full backs who defend. We need competent wingers who can receive the ball from a midfield that knows how to pass. I recall a press conference earlier in the year when one of our experienced 'professional footballers' said about the new manager that there is not much we can get away with. I felt alarm bells then. Those are not the words of a seasoned professional. Of a 19 year old maybe. Someone has to glue this team together. There has to be a new captain who is free of the past and who has the professional respect of the players, who will be in their ears and who they will run their hearts out for. They're clearly not ready to do this week in, week out for their manager. They did at Stoke and I just wonder whether O'Neill is the man. Then someone new for next year?

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    Surrey Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Bru . . . . you're always stating the bleedin' obvious !

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • dave123 we also stalled on Rudy Gestede who is bound to be a thorn in our side on Saturday. Time for the return of Ruddy, Bennett, Wes and give Bamford a start. Ruddy, Pinto, Bennett, Klose, Olsson - Jarvis, O'Neil, Hoolahan, Brady, Naismith Bamford

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    OTFBC

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • It is simple as long as Norwich do not allow Pinto to play another game they will be okay. I went to the games against Liverpool and Spurs and cannot anyone getting beaten so easily and being out of position so much. He is awful and out of his depth. As AN said there is no honeymoon period. For me drop Bassong, Pinto and Mulumbu and whoever comes in for them Sat will bring home the 3 points.

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    city meister

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • whereareyou - I've googled STBO. Tried to tell you but...

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • @Rick, you are right. Many of the goals we've conceded have been sucker-punches. Changing Rudd for Ruddy only brings another "Y" into the equation.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • @whereareyou, I've googled STBO now. TBF, it wasn't really the young clichémeister, but Alex who was guilty of STBO. Btw; D'Vott's STBOs are usually highlighted in a petite pastel blue oblong - soon to be published as part of a collection in The Little Blue Book; "The Collected Thoughts of Chairman Patrick". Available at all good bookshops in Breydon Waterstones.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • The sound of ferociously bashed keyboards rang out across the vast East Anglian sky as a familiar sense of despair carried in the wind. ''442'' ''experience'' ''Kyle Lafferty'' ''The Board'' phrases swept through the streets like litter in a storm. ''There's nothing I can do now'' cried a lone voice from behind a makeshift hut made of Hughton era cardboard clappers, ''The flouncing has gathered too much momentum''

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Norwich stalled on Afobe and Van Dijk because of the price.Both went to teams in the Lower half of this division for reasonable amounts and have started delivering the goods.........A lesson to be learned if and when Norwich are relegated. Panic buying inferior players will not save them.

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    dave123

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Isn't it funny how the people who were having a pop at Ruddy up till Xmas are now calling for his reinstatement ? Goalkeeping is not where our problem lies, and I really cannot see what Rudd has done to deserve being dropped, particularly when there are several outfield players who seem to stay in the matchday squad despite numerous inept displays. I have this feeling that someone will give a matchwinning performance on Sat .........Birmingham lad Nathan Redmond ,anyone ? The difficulty lies in whether we can keep solid at the back. I know people are saying Villa's attack is toothless, but some of the soft goals we've contrived to concede this season could have been taken by anyone without either teeth or dentures.

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    Rick

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Quite amazing,that ,given recent history he puts the blame on his players,containing more cliches in his comments than even Paddy Davitt can manage. How about, i have made mistakes ,brought in some players too quickly,before i realised the standard of Premier League,subsequently losing flexibility in the allowable squad. I now have the squad that must see us through,their talent levels can hardly be improved quickly,sufficient or not,What i will do is to work tirelessly to improve organisation,to press high up on the pitch,to improve fitness levels,so that players can be closed down quickly, . I will not allow sitting back in the penalty area,when i find the Defense coach,i will give him a week to achieve a comfortable organised defence. Headless chickens passing as hard workers will not be selected,,,trust me ALEX

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    dis dressed

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • More frustrating viewing at Carrow Road on Tuesday...a 3-0 defeat that could quite easily have been 5 or 6!!! Ball park...We have 14 games left to get 17 points (with 40 points hopefully, being the benchmark for survival)...AN has to go with Klose and Bennett at the back, Bassong is, as I've been saying all season, a dreadful liability!!! I'll probably get shot for saying this, but I couldn't help wondering if Russ Martin would have done a better job at right back on Tuesday? Nah...scratch that...my team against Villa...Rudd, Wisdom, Bennett, Klose, Olsson, Brady, O'Neil, Howson, Jarvis, Naismith, Mbokani...Subs: Ruddy, Pinto, Martin, Redmond, Hoolahan, Bamford, Jerome...(four wins, five draws allows for five defeats...so ALL to play for!!!) OTBC

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    YarcoYella

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • @Preston Canary: I'm with you all day fella. I do think AN is the right man for us, considering his limited managerial experience he is doing remarkably well at this level and we just need to stick with him. If we go down this year I am certain he will bounce us straight back up. I get the feeling that we may be just like our own Cameron Jerome ... too good for the Championship but not quite sharp enough for the Prem. I think the board are right not to pay stupid transfer fees and daft wages, we have had dark financial days in the past and we do not want to even briefly flirt with them again. I actually think Alex Neill is as good as we can expect to attract - its his first ever EPL experience, he is gonna take time to adapt and he will make mistakes, but he (and we) will be stronger for the experience if we stick with him.

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    Lucioperca

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • i posted a couple of weeks ago when some on here were raving of our run ove xmas, i pointed out that we had more points at this stage of the season than now and still went down, im sorry but the players dont have the guts for a fight it seems, a few do dig in when our backs are to the wall but most just drop their heads, well im not calling for alex to go but this might have to happen if it dont improve, if i was him i would now be totally straight with some of the inept performers and tell them if he remains next season and we are in the chump most of them wont be there with us, they wont be in the prem either as none of them have shown they have what it takes, ok alex swapping it about can work if you have a host of great players well we dont, if you want to keep your job i think some serious 1 - 1s are needed, when we were in the old div 1 now prem league a settled team helped, let the fringe players try to impress and work to get in, at the moment they all know give it a couple of games and i will be back in the team wether ive tried to improve or not, well as for villa im sorry but i see nothing other than a defeat, we are going down so about time most excepted it, hopefully alex will stay and bounce them straight back up but he will need a big clearout and some real fighters bought in for when and if we do go back up, and before you all call me a defeatist sorry im a realist, alex is a good bloke and really wants the best for ncfc, ok maybe he has alot to learn but dont we all, not long ago most of you were saying he would be the next mufc manager, now most wont have him over eaton park lol, grow up its a game,

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    dave@thecrown

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Alex ... we need to win and the key to winning is stopping the opposition from scoring. You need to pick a solid, reliable, fast and organised back 5. If you choose anything other than Ruddy, Pinto, Klose, Bennett and Olsson - then you deserve any criticism that comes your way. Villa only really pose one threat and that is aerial from Lescott and Gestede ... we need Benno and Klose to give us the height and physicality because Seb Bassong has been out of form for too long now. Russ Martin (love him to bits but ) is no Prem Centre Back either because frankly his first touch isn't up to standard and he is too slow. Solid at the back, pace up front and Mbokani will keep Lescott too occupied to risk his forays into our box. I sense a nervy but extremely hard fought 0-1 .... but it will feel as good a a 6-niller right now

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    Lucioperca

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • We don't HAVE to beat Villa on Saturday. But, because the last 3 games are tough, we DO have to get 17 points from the next 11 games to hit the 40 point mark. So its not going to be easy and we have to start playing much better. Neil has shown he can bring good teams to top-of-the-table form, but can he get a losing team back on track? That's a different ballgame.

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    TheProf

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Can't believe the high percentage of OTT negative comments. Of course all us office workershole diggersjoe publics know so much better than the professionals we're criticising! We've had 3 bad results (Newc. Wford & Bmouth) every team this season has had embarrassing results. Tuesday night was against Spurs they are worlds apart from us in all repects. While there were mistakes not 1 of our team had a bad game, the ref was an embarrassment to refs. AN and the players need and deserve our support. If anyone of you were a current NCFC player and read some of the comments on here how would you feel? COME ON YOU YELLOWS OTBC

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    barrym

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I needed to log in earlier to beat the likes of whereareyou & rament to the lyrical\Dennis Potter connection! Evoked memories of the Singing Detective scene in which Nurse Joanne Whalley applied a soothing ointment to the nether regions of the poor guy with psoriatic arthropathy; "Phillip Marlowe". After such stimulation, she got what was coming to her. Lose not hope, if rubbed up the right way, our boys might yet rise to the occasion. Laffers should be first on the team sheet. Rudd(y) might manage to keep a clean sheet. @whereareyou; what's STBO??

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • We all knew we had a real scrap on our hands this season but now the going's got tough we've got people flouncing around left, right and centre wanting everything from Chris Samba to Ray Wilkins overseeing things between his AA meetings

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Also a lot of similarities between AN and Nathan Redmond. Neither are on their game, and neither seem to be developing.

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I think it is worth sticking with Rudd he is more agile than Ruddy. The poor lad has to contend with a colander defense, whoever is picked in front of him. As for general team performances, right from the start of the season it has been a game of two halves. How many times has the question been asked "what will A.N. say at half time to get the team playing". The players should be concentrating and playing for each other from the first whistle to the final whistle. Bournemouth have come through the divisions with the same manager and never deviating from attacking football. They have skill, work rate, and a good team ethic. City does not seem to have much of anything. The only thing we can improve on is work rate and hope that is enough to stay up.

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    61canarie

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • If reported accurately, then a very worrying article. Comes across as a very distant father whose kids have no idea that exams to determine their future are close, and neither have much idea about how to work for them or even where they have to go to take them. Something is very wrong and seems to be missing at NCFC.

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I was at the 'must win 'match at Bournemouth. We were dreadful. The psychology of the two teams was as different as chalk and cheese. The Liverpool match. Would Pulis ( or any Premiership manager) let go a 3-1 lead with twenty minutes to go? The Spurs match. Are we in the same league? Aston Villa another 'must win'. I very much doubt it. Lucky if we get a draw. The three to go down are us, AV and Sunderland. Over the last few weeks we have been a championship side. So we are well prepared. Sorry to be negative on a cold dull day. But it is difficult to put the finger on the malaise. The manager is good and the team works hard. But somehow it doesn't click. Do they need one of those awful corporate away-a-day bonding events? Take them all down to Malaga for a SundayMonday 'clearing the air' session? Or even at Sprowston Spa?

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    Canterbury Tales

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I was at the 'must win 'match at Bournemouth. We were dreadful. The psychology of the two teams was as different as chalk and cheese. The Liverpool match. Would Pulis ( or any Premiership manager) let go a 3-1 lead with twenty minutes to go? The Spurs match. Are we in the same league? Aston Villa another 'must win'. I very much doubt it. Lucky if we get a draw. The three to go down are us, AV and Sunderland. Over the last few weeks we have been a championship side. So we are well prepared. Sorry to be negative on a cold dull day. But it is difficult to put the finger on the malaise. The manager is good and the team works hard. But somehow it doesn't click. Do they need one of those awful corporate away-a-day bonding events? Take them all down to Malaga for a SundayMonday 'clearing the air' session? Or even at Sprowston Spa?

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    Canterbury Tales

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Alex Neil needs some experienced help. There are ex managers out there that can provide the experience and know how which AN has yet to learn. NC need urgently to get one of these to help AN form a defence. Until this happens we are heading back to the Championship (2nd Division). It is pitiful watching this back four and the so called holding players trying to perform. A settled well drilled defence, of capable players is the first priority of all the best teams. NC have no idea about this, swapping and changing every game. Unless AN is provided with some very experienced help we will continue our journey into the Championship.

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    willb

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Lets get Emin in charge he's got it all sussed! He's going to miraculously find us buyers for Wolf and Lafferty and bring in similar quality to Cabaye, he must have found a website where we can just click and 'add to cart' and we get a gift code for the wages

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Cuckoo to change Alex neil or Rudd in my opinion. I would very much like to see a convincing win against Villa though. I think we have the necessary ability in the team now for a mid table finish - IF - we can get them to gel. I had hoped Naismith would have been wearing the armband against Spurs...

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    powelld123

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • "May be trouble"?? Thats rather like suggesting that winter could follow autumn! I hate to acknowledge it, but we are now in a worse position than we were under Hughton! Having said that, at this point 2 seasons ago, I was convinced that we were doomed under Hughton, but I still think that AN can still work the "Great Escape". There can be no doubt about know that the Villa game is must, must, must WIN. History tells us that one of the bottom 3 teams always seems to stage a miracle recovery, and climb out of the hole. Look at Leicester last season, and the season before it was Sunderland, and we all know which team that escape condemmed.....Norwich!! We have made the investment, there is no excuse for not climbing the table now, but it has to start next Saturday, or morale may slip so low as to make a serious situation a growing lost cause. As I said, under Hughton, it was an obvious lost cause. I'm not ready to throw in the towel over Neil just yet.

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    Algarve Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I disagree with the comments about Rudd, he is not to blame for the defeats and has made some good saves. It's easy for a pundit to say he should have pushed the ball away from the oncoming players when he made a couple of saves but they were reaction stops where he did well to get a hand on the ball at all. Stick with him and give him a fair chance. It doesn't matter who the manager picks outfield, if they don't put in 100% commitment from the start then they can expect to lose. Norwich only showed up for one half and the game was lost by them.

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    Johny

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • AN is as much to blame as the players. Some of his team selections have been unsatisfactory and his constant changes in the team every game are I'm sure unsettling for the players. I'm sure he doesn't know what his best eleven is - he needs to pick his best team and stick it. His misguided loyalty to some players has been found out and needs to stop.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I have been saying all season that AN needs to,barring injuriessuspensions, choose what he thinks is his best XI and stick to it . I really do not believe that he actually knows what his best X1 is though, and the influx of new players has ironically done nothing to alter that. It really does illustrate our plight that so many people are banking on the return of as limited a player as Gary O'Neil as our salvation. I do not feel that replacing AN now would help, but I've got this sneaking feeling that, knowing the bizarre world that this board seemingly inhabits, they are going to do a rerun of 2014, leave it till April and then in a fit of desperation bring someone like Warnock in.

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    Rick

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Canaryboy65.. my feelings exactly!and by the way Clough wasn't too shoddy either (Brian) I do feel it's time to bring Ruddy back in..as much as for Rudds benefit as the Team's..his confidence must have taken a battering. A minimum of 4pts is required from the next 2 games..steady the ship and then kick on again. Re CityMan..I can live with his spelling \ grammar as I believe he can't help that..it's the complete drivel behind the words I can't cope with

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    Irish canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Gary O'Neil's sending off has been the most costly red card I care to remember and almost the defining moment of our season so far. We could have picked up at least a point at Stoke and perhaps all 3 if he (or Tettey) had played against LFC. We need a performance at Villa and time for Pinto and Klose to prove their worth - there is no honeymoon period! I was dubious about the signing of Pinto and so far I am not convinced. I know Byram was £3.7million and probably didnt want a move to Norwich but don't feel Pinto is much better than Whittaker! I hope he proves me wrong.

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    OTFBC

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Wow, how the worm has turned. Alex Neil is a young manager who has shown great managerial promise, but who will make mistakes occasionally. I have said before and I will say again that I back him because I like what he is trying to do. We need to give him time. I do agree that there is a bit too much chopping and changing at times. With bringing Rudd for Ruddy and then we have just played two new signings on the right side of defence. I would go with Olsen, Bassong, Klose and Martin in defence as I think Pinto needs more time to adapt and what we need more than anything is some familiarity amongst the defence. I am also undecided on goalkeeper. Rudd hasn't necessarily done anything wrong, but he is also not exactly stamping his claim as a permanent No 1 with his performances. I wonder if Wes was rested to keep him fresh for Villa. I hope so because for me he would be amongst the first names on the team sheet.

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    Preston Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City Man, you're right about British managers....Sir Alex Ferguson, Terry Venables, Kenny Dalglish, Geore Graham, Sir Matt Busby etc - all clueless, how their clubs didn't realise and sack them ASAP is beyond me !! I, for one, think we should stick with AN. He's only been in charge 12 months and if it wasn't for him we'd be planning our way to Brentford on a Tuesday night !. We have a chance of staying up but it will be close. look at the money Newcastle have spent and that hasn't done much good so far. Villa is the defining game for me, lose there and I seriuosly doubt we'll make it.

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    Canaryboy65

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Watching Watford last night one of the teams that went up with City they looked really good and Premiership level, their passing to each other was brilliant hardly a single pass went astray in the whole match. They looked completely different from City where about 75% of the passes go astray. Something badly wrong at City and AN is not the Messiah after all.

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    goldie

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Ruddy back in goal. Close and Bennett in central defence. Wes has to start - we have picked up ONE point all season when Wes hasn't started! AN must go with what he believes to be his best team and stick with it - too many changes, look at what Bournemouth are doing with a more settled squad

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    GolfingCanary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I would rather get relegated than turn to overseas managers and owners. I just hope Gary O'Neil can hit the ground running on Saturday as the loss of Tettey may well be the crucial point for the game. If we are going to continue with attacking full backs then we certainly need a holding midfielder. Another option would be to go to three centre backs but that means using Bennett rather than Martin who simply failed in that position. We surely need to encourage our wingers to hit the flanks and put decent crosses in rather than keep turning in or back on them selves. Given Naismith can score goals, he effectively acts as a second striker so that leaves one space for a ball player, Wes or Howson and the other for a holding mid or additional centre back depending on the chosen formation. One thing is for sure, we also need a plan B instigated as soon as we concede, Tuesday for example, we still failed to use our third sub.

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    TrevorKeith

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • RUDDY PINTO (LAST CHANCE) BENNETT KLOSE OLSSON O'NEILL HOOLAHAN BRADY NAISMITH JARVIS BAMFORD

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    Robin Sydney

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I don't know how the board expected A.Neil to handle this situation when it arose.It was always going to be tough for him.Did they think they had a tactical genius on their hands or was it a lets try him out -it won,t break the bank and if it works GREAT! Personally I think it was too much too soon for him.He seems an honest likeable bloke who has given his best.As someone said in the NFL (american football)Teams win it coaches lose it.It must be hard motivating players who are in and out of the team.WHERE was wes???

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    harry mcardle

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Again I say this The Team for Villa. Ruddy Pinto (give him another chance) Olsson O Neill Bennett Klose Naismith (Captain), Hoolahan, Bamford, Jarvis and Brady. Subs Rudd, Lafferty, Howson, Mkobani and Redmond (with a stiff talking too) If we lose so be it, but my team has no room for Rudd at the moment, Bassong, R Martin, Howson, Tetty although suspended and Odija or Mulumba. Simple.

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    Robin Sydney

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Agree with you Jimhow. AN has only got himself to blame, no consistency in the team selection - especially with the defenders. Need two wins on the spin and the table will look prettier.

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    OTFBC

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • City M. How can you continue to contribute to this site when your command of the English Language is embarrassing. You are entitled to your opinion but please keep a dictionary beside you while posting.

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    61canarie

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Games are running out thick & fast and we need 6 more wins to stay in the Prem; Unfortunately the A.V. game is a must win game-----lose and i think we will go down.

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    superfan59

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I was very dissapointed with the signings we made in summer and even more dissapointed in this window. One I was excited about was Naismith but on the other hand 12 million dollars for a 29 year old bit-part player from Everon is a lot of money. And the others? A load of rubbish and players for the youth team. Naismith 8m, Klose 7.6, Maddison and Jarvis 2.5m each, Pinto 2.2, the lad from York 1m and Abu or whatever his name is around 500k. That adds to around 24-25 million spent minus the sales of Hooper, Grabban and Bennett( I am guessing for around the million mark).That means we have spent 13-14 million in this window. Has the team been inproved ? Barely. I would have sold on Mulumbu for any amount as it seems that he has lost it. Also some funds could have been generated from sale of either Lafferty or Wolf. That means we have around 15-16 million to spend this window. I would have left Jarvises loan as it is, send Wisdom back to Pool as a new right back would mean almost 4 rightbacks at the club. Then get Bamford on loan in his place and spend the remaining 15m on 3 players-rightback, centreback and a box to box midfield player. Ricardo van Rhijn, Dennis Diekamayer, Sam Byram where all availavle for between 3 and 4 million. All much better than lost Pinto. That leaves us with around 11m to spend. I would have spent the bulk of it on a classy midfield players, who can control the ball and pass it quickly. Someone similar to Cabaye or Cazorla. Surely a player of that type could have been scouted and brought in from abroad for 6-7m. That leaves us with a centreback to find. Semih Kaya from Galatasaray was available for around 4-5 million, a brave hard-tackling defender. C Davies from Hull? Also a good player. Ron Vlaar is a free agent, even C.Samba would have been better than rigid Klose who lacks character to lead our defence

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    Emin Babayev

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Stop changing people every damn week, our most solid defence was Olson, bass, Bennett and wisdom but AN changed it for his mate Russ to play and it's been poor ever since. Midfielders change every game come on man get a grip and see that you are the issue not the players

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    Jimhow

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Dear Mr neil, thank you for your GCSE script in Soccer Management, please see comments below: “As a squad if we don’t quickly realise we need to get our finger out and win more games....." Alex whereas this is indisputable, I would strongly suspect that by the time a football player has reach the age of 8 years old, he is well aware of the importance of winning games. “If we are going to have any ambitions of competing and staying in this league we are going to have to play better than we did in the first half (against Tottenham)." Again Alex I suspect that the team probably know that conceding a goal in the first two minutes and not actually putting in much effort in the first half, is not the road to success. “They won’t take picking up. They are professional football players,” At last a contentious point. I concede that as they are paid for being (on paper anyway) footballers, they are professional however in many cases that is not aptly demonstrated on the pitch. Your comment on not taking picking up I find ambiguous. Perhaps something has been lost in translation or requires a better level of description. Are we talking about the possibility of being picked up in a bar somewhere? Are you concerned that they are frightened of falling over in case there is no assistance to assist themi getting up again? In conclusion Alex, may I suggest that the reconsider your exam script and take a bit more time to develop your thinking. The deadline is 3pm on Saturday.

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Yes, but again and again we have seen our best players not standing up in the way AN says they will. It simply doesn't happen. They have known in each of the last 5 games they needed to get their finger out. Sadly, the table does not lie. NCFC are not as good as the teams above them. We can only hope they remain better than the teams below them. Saturday will be a key indicator of this.

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    Surrey Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Walcott yes you are right it is the squad but you got to have a manager who know what players to bring in all the uk managers get it wrong foreign managers do better simple as that.

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Irish canary couldn't keep away I hate to see this club poor performances and no doubt get relegated again , and No not all in British it bad just look at the facts , foreign managers are the ones that can crack this league wether you want to beleave it or not .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I openly admit to knowing very little about tactics and formations, but I would have thought that a stable first XI would help, instead of starting afresh every week which is what seems to be happening. The Aston Villa result will provide a strong indicator of where Norwich will be playing next season. The most worrying feature of the defeats is the scale- seventeen goals conceded in five games and four scored, albeit in the infamous Liverpool match. At the end of the season it could be goal difference that determines Norwich's fate.

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    Suffolk Exile

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • These problems stem directly form the pathetic squad preparation in August. I don't buy that "We couldn't plan because the play off final was so late". Planning means getting ideas together in advance of possible or probable situations. Alex had had from January to know where the weaknesses in his team and squad were and he, the nameless ex Burnley loser and the entire scouting team should have been looking for the players he needed. Instead he put all his faith in one player and spent six weeks negotiating with Steve Bruce. We were made to look like amateurs off the pitch. So starting teh season with only three centrebacks, Alex selects the wrost two out of the three despite seeing numerous unnecessary goals given away from the first match. His blind loyalty to Russell Martin who is totally inadequate as centreback and captain has cost us many points this season but Alex, having reluctantly dropped him for Ryan Bennett simply couldn't wait for an excuse to make Ryan the scapegoat at Bournemouth and reinstate his litte mate for the Liverpool game. I have sympathy for the board. Their purses are not bottomless and Alex has not proved himself to be the most reliable judge of a player. In fact I think Alex has complete tunnel vision and is far too quick to write off a player. Naismith and Brady are good players although this only applies to Brady when he is played in his correct position. The suggestions below to recruit a Director of Football particularly one with some knowledge of organising a defence, is an excellent one. Failing that see if Big Mick down the road fancies doing a bit of moonlighting. He would get more out of this squad than Alex is at the moment and Alex is now giving out all the signs of a quitter.

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • The board must act now and get a foreign manner in who nows what he's doing to save this club or exspect city fate getting relegated back to the championship where we belong under this board they will never learn from the past mistakes that have been made in all the previous spells in the premireship because it's all down to keeping money in the bank the board are going to lose out on a massive amount of money in the prem next season .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • So then City Man..the simple fact that we have a British Manager is the reason for our problems?..all things foreign are good..all things British are bad? Absolutely staggering.. I thought you had promised to stop posting comments a couple of weeks ago?

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    Irish canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • A good manager usually possesses one or many of the following attributes. He is usually either a good motivator, a good tactician or great in dealing in the transfer market. AN seems to have none of the above. I thought initially he was a good motivator, but then again what have we achieved under him? Scraping through the playoffs with by far the best squad in the division is not a great achievement at all. However back then to some people he seemed a top coach, destined for greatness. I personally feel we should have parted after the playoff final. Many teams have changed succesful managers and progressed after that. Like Southampton and Leicester for instance. A better manager means having more experience, better connections and that also means having a man in charge who can impose his style on the team. What style do the Canaries have at the moment? We can't even play the ball out of our defence properly.AN should have been replaced in the summer,should have agreed a package with him and gone for an experienced manager. AN was in demand after last years success,he would have got himself a job in the Championship or L1. Now when we sack him after the Villa game he will be jobless for a long time. At least we should have replaced him after Bournemouth

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    Emin Babayev

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • I h8 it when I compose a long piece and it goes to the moderator.

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    cutty

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • You don't say Einstein.

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • The missing ingredient is 'on field' leadership and commitment, especially at the back. All of our great (but not necessarily our most skilful) defenders had it. Remember Keelan, when the ball went in our net his first reaction was to race upto and bite the head off the guilty defender, twice player of the year and voted Best Div 1 keeper in 1978. Ducan Forbes, muscular, craggy with a stentorian voice, led us to two promotions and two cup finals. Malky Mackay, a great promotion captain. All had fire in their belly and took no prisoners.

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    cutty

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Or is the problem you Alex are you out of your depth at this level to save us maybe the board might need replace you and get a foreign manager, in take look at the league all the teams with foreign managers are doing well or doning enough to be safe in mid table . Then look at the clubs near the bottom clubs that have Engilsh Scottish etc managers they are all struggerling to avoid being suck into relegation battle Villa problems started years ago before the foreign manager arrived at the club it in a mess he can't sort out .

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • …..PADDY if you have his ear, be brave enough to tell him to read these columns!…. None of us silly MOGS want to see Norwich City get relegated!….He must realise that somewhere along the line mistakes have been made, and are still being made!….He is the man at the top of the tree..or is he.. and is responsible for the actions of those under him!….He was able to build on the foundations laid by Neil Adams last season ...but is now out on his own!….What has been seen so far is that Pinto is no better than either Martin or Whittaker….Bassong is a liability ,and his spat with Bennett must be patched up!….Brady is not a Full Back and must be moved to the left wing Pronto!….Redmond and Dorrans should be not even be considered for the bench, and if Howson returns to his invisible man display he should join them!….Hoolahan MUST start, and even if he is having a shocker, is still head and shoulders above his fellow players!….If the trouble is on the training ground...there is only one answer!….Change the trainers!…..

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Rather than replace AN, I would like to see a director of football come into the club, preferably one with defensive experience but even Ray Wilkins or Glen Hoddle would do me. For those asking for 2 up front, I actually think Naismith has in effect played that second striker. I also said before the window closed that we needed a more creative and defensive midfielder, hard to find but they are out there, box to box players. For me AN got it wrong on Tuesday by playing a second defensive midfielder in Mulumbu. I was one asking why he was not picked against Liverpool but his slow pace on Tuesday showed why, not Premiership level I fear. Likewise, Alex needs to make changes quicker when things are not working, once we went two down he may as well have put Wes on to add some creativity in the hope we may score goals, he certainly seemed to work with Naismith first time of asking.

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    TrevorKeith

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Alex I though you have been saying that to the players for weeks know but it's not sinking in maybe players don't want prem fooball or there is something else wrong maybe it's down at the training ground and need to take a long look at your coaching staff are they up to doing the job. . You have a goal keeper coach what about a defence coach or don't you have one something is wrong somewhere why they keep performing so poor.

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    City M

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • When we were in this position last time the Board spent nothing in January and kept Hughton far too long. However, this time they have spent, and on who the manager wanted, within reason. Therefore logic dictates they have to stick with what they've got. My admiration of Alex Neil is deteriorating by the day, but even so he must be given the chance to bed the new signings in. Pity we didn't do it in the Summer. A few more enlightened posters say the Board are not bothered if we go down and I have good reason to agree with them. However they have at least given us a fighting chance this time round, so over to you Alex. Fail to win at Villa and we will be on very dangerous ground indeed.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • It is easy to be an 'armchair' expert. I don't see anything like enough games to comment on who plays where, but surely playing just 1 up front shows a negative approach to scoring goals, whereas 2 up is more positive. I look forward to a victory at Villa .

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    Cornwall Canary

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • There may be trouble ahead!!!,,,,well there will be if we cant keep a clean sheet against a team with only one senior striker available.That being Agbonlahor who hasnt scored since March 2015,mind you he has a habit of finding the net against Norwich.A good starting point for Alex is to put round pegs in round holes......Heres hopeing

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    tommy bryce

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • There is a big difference from punditry (armchair managing) and doing the job for real. Just take a look at how Gary Neville is doing at Valencia (particularly the result they got last night in the 1st leg of a Copa Del Rey Semi-Final). I reckon Gary is feeling a bit silly himself right now after his Sky demolitions of managers. I wonder who will get the sack 1st, AN or Gary ? It will be Gary I suggest, despite his experience, knowledge and punditry ability - Although I don't recall ever hearing him on Canary Call !

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    Raisedeyebrows

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • worrying thing for me is that there is a gap above us now. Luckily form is temporary and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that we go on a small winning run and others who had been on a good run, start on a bad run. I never thought i'd say we miss Gary O'Neill but it appears we have, that steadying influence in midfield. (Nearly said calm head!) Perhaps he should be the new captain

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    kpg24uk

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • "There May Be Trouble Ahead!" Simple solution! Let's Face the Music And Dance! PDQ

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    rament

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • stop chopping an changing, players cannot get a run of games to get bedded in. Get a setttled team and stop being so rigid in formation. I honestly do not think he knows what is his best 11. blow all this setting up because the opposition... Might as well start bigging up the other teams as the Hughton did. Get out there and let them worry how we are going to play... I thought there were at least 3 other teams worse, but I am starting to think differently

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    sixtiesbarclayboy

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Same old Paddy, STBO as usual!?

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    whereareyou

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • 4-4-2 at home definitely. Away maybe.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Shades of Dennis Potter! The Singing Defective to you youngsters! Let's hope we're all dancing at Villa Park...

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    whereareyou

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Statement of the year

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    superfan59

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • What must Neil do to pull Norwich out of this slump? He needs to change our bloody formation, 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1 either of them is not working. Lets play two up front and have a real go at teams. 4-4-2 seems to be working well for Bournemouth and Watford,, come on lets not be afraid of teams before we start.

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    Mark Turner

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • After all these player changes and the manager still blaming the players, should we be looking for a new manager for our swift return the the premier league at the end of next season. After all other managers have done much more with much less this season.

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    Panic

    Thursday, February 4, 2016

  • Before some of you start I really don't believe sacking the manager would achieve anything. As to what he can do: beat - not draw with - Villa and take it from there. Will we go down? Experience over many years tells me yes but how I'd love to be wrong.

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    Thursday, February 4, 2016

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