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Russell Martin sets his sights on Norwich City winning top-flight mini league

Russell Martin in action for Norwich City during Saturday's 2-2 draw with West Ham at Carrow Road. 
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Russell Martin in action for Norwich City during Saturday's 2-2 draw with West Ham at Carrow Road. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

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The Premier League relegation battle is shaping into a six-team mini league which Norwich City skipper Russell Martin is setting his sights on winning.

Although Aston Villa are eight points adrift of the Canaries – who currently occupy the final safe position of 17th – just five points separate Sunderland in 19th and Bournemouth in 15th.

With Newcastle and Swansea also firmly in the mix, it sets up an intriguing scrap for top-flight survival in the final 12 matches of the campaign.

“There’s six in there, maybe seven, and we need to finish top of that league of six teams,” Martin said. “We’ve got to play three of those teams so it’s in our hands, we’ve got 12 games to do it and we have to do it, it’s as simple as that. At this minute there’s six teams in it, maybe you suck one more into it.

“A lot of us have been through this before, I don’t think this is any time to panic and get tense.”

City moved back out of the bottom three following Saturday’s 2-2 draw with West Ham at Carrow Road, thanks to Newcastle’s 5-1 thrashing at Chelsea which saw the Magpies goal difference take a hit.

An air of disappointment remained though after the Canaries allowed a lead to slip away for the second time in three home games.

However, Martin felt City actually played better against the Hammers than they had when beating Aston Villa 2-0 and Southampton 1-0 at home around the turn of the year.

“We didn’t play as well as we did in any of those games, we won three out of four but we didn’t play as well as this in any of them,” the experienced defender said.

“We played good football for 65 minutes, so it is a balancing act.

“But we did win three out of four, that showed we can do it at this level and we need to go on a run like that again now.”

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  • Strewth all I said was Watneys and beer an oxymoron. Brew of insanity loving your defense of the indefensible, just relieved some of the real ale brewers survived the corporate onslaught of the seventies and eighties. The classics still get done though , by later generations of the family selling out; you were right in that assumption- didnt have to sell; could start a list of all the lost breweries and beers, but for me most missed is 'Prize Old Ale by the now defunct Gales of Horndean.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • Brew I remember going in there on a Friday for the ploughman's lunch and a pint, also the Princess of Wales sometimes for the fry up where we rubbed shoulders with Bob Wellings and other Anglia TV personalities. We sometimes used the Foundry on the corner of Mountergate if funds were low a real spit and sawdust pub.

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    Gibbo

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • brew, i cant recall a Guggles,of course, as a Grammar School twit,i mainly frequented the Mayfair,Theater De Luxe,and with a dainty Foxtrot Observed with awe,or stunned silence,i am not sure which, at the Lido ballroom,there to keep away from the likes of Itchy Howard.The Dashwoods and presumably Guggles ? nostalgia rules ok !

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    dis dressed

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @Swiss, you've got my old nostalgia cells working overtime. That White's place was a miracle to me, with the bust of Queen Vic and all. Draught Bass! A lot of the connections you have are Surrey and a bit Watneys! Pimlico, Southwark, Mile End. I lived in Sutton for a while and Carshalton is nearby. Sometime this century, a Charmian Gundry-White died in Lambeth. Husband was "George". Any leads there? Distant relatives? There was a Jasper in the family somewhere.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @Mad Brewer, my post was sent to Gormenghast Castle to be inspected, maybe more for deviation than profanity. I dusted off the files and started some searches but am left with several pieces of very similar thread that do not quite tie up. George Gundry-White the publican (and it is hyphenated) was a Londoner, born in Pimlico in 1854 and his wife was Maud from Southwark, born in 1862. They had two sons who were born in Mile End, the oldest one's name is illegible on the 1911 census, he was an engineer, but the younger one, Frederick was studying law. Frederick went to Calgary, Alberta, where he was still studying law when he joined the Canadian Infantry as a Private in 1915. I am left thinking that my Grandfather's Lt Gundry-White is the older brother. He appears as 2nd Lieutenant Lionel. A. Gundry-White in the 8th (service) regiment of the Royal Norfolks and I have now found three different army accounts of him leading attacks with my grandfather backing him up on a Lewis gun. Maud Gundry-White passed away in Mundsley in 1936, leaving nearly £8'000, which was a tidy sum. Lionel Gundry-White became a Captain in the Army and lived in Carshalton. It might all fit together nicely if the 1911 Norwich census entry was legible, but it's not. That's it, bring on leicester.

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    Swiss Canary

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • Can't believe I forwardslashed instead of back\slashing. It must be the stress of all the censorship. Mr. Powles' Team is earning its corn today.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @MichiCan. My reply was twice rejected (Offensive AND Duplicate - interesting). Bullards and S&P jointly bought Morgans in 1961 and divided up the pub estate. They didn't want the relatively modern Morgans Brewery in King St, so sold it to Watneys. Thus, Watney Mann (Norwich) was founded under the Chairmanship of Sir Robert Bignold. Later, Watneys moved in to take over Bullards and S&P, forming Watney Mann (East Anglia). The tired Bullard's and S&P breweries were duly closed, leaving just King St. Later, the company traded as The Norwich Brewery Company. In 1984\5 (?) the brewery was closed. So Watney's kept King St. brewing from 1961-19845. The two other Norwich brewers would've just closed it. Or did they already know the bigger picture....

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @dis dressed; does Guggles Girling ring any bells?

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @Swiss; I have here a book called "The Inns & Taverns of Old Norwich", by John Riddington Young. There is a brief entry about Gundry Whites... Before the 1930s, it was described as "the prince of eating and drinking houses". Burton beer in pewter tankards. Huge hams and glazed tongues. Giant roasts of beef and pork. The only females allowed to cross the threshold were the barmaids!! Lots of Victoriana upstairs, of which much remained into the 1960s. Specially a bust of The Queen herself (that WAS allowed across the threshold!). I think Purdy's took the place over. It was certainly classier than their place at the base of Westlegate Tower. Never saw Levi in GW's either either!

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @Swiss; only just spotted your post - or maybe it just popped up late after queuing in the ether? Fascinating stuff. We underage drinkers never researched that strange name (was it hyphenated?), but it was an iconic venue. I think it was branded just "Whites" but previous generations, like my father's (b. 1908) added the Gundry. G-W had on sale both Draught Bass and Worthington, from adjacent pumps. If one ran out, they both did! Double tap in the same cask! Less observant\pedantic types were divided in their loyalties... I loike the Bass... Thass c?@p compared ter Worthy... etc. Half chicken & chips was 10s 6d. Let me know how your research goes? It's interesting.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • Key word: Morgan's.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • I can refer you to "The Red Barrel"; a history of Watney Mann by Hurford Janes. Published in 1963 by John Murray and printed by William Clowes & Sons - possibly in Beccles! A treasured tome. Price 15 shillings.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @MichiCan, attempts to clarify for you the chain of events in The Watney Invasion were repeatedly blocked. Another day?

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • @dis dressed; my encounter with L McC was in Purdy's restaurant late one Friday night. Two black American servicemen were arguing loudly over who'd lost their car keys. This irked LMcC and the next thing two Americans were sent sprawling across our table, sending the grub flying. Aided by several cronies, further punishment was meted out by the great man before he departed. He disdainfully threw a quid note in our direction as token compensation for 4 wrecked meals. We didn't argue... @MichiCan, working as I did, for Watney's Mortlake Brewery in the late 60s\early 70s, I experienced many a hangover from Fullers ESB. I seem to recall it was "only" 5.8% ish in those days. Watney's best beers were reserved for export. Watneys London Lager (4.6%). Red Barrel Continental (4.8%). At home, Stingo and Export Gold were excellent "barley wines", one dark, one pale - both potent. Watney operated 10 UK breweries in those days. 7 of them produced cask beer. An awful lot of misty-eyed revisionism goes on about Watneys. The real reason cask beer went into decline was because much of it was c?@p. Hence the need for the bottled beer mixers - Light & Bitter, Brown & Mild. IMHO there's still a lot of dreadful cask beer about - but the "Emperor's New Clothes" hype industry, aided my the missionary plague of Sommeliers, bamboozles the public. Mind control.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • rick reference hooper,et al,its the system not the player,if you rarely receive the ball in a goal scoring position , whilst colleagues try speculative attempts from oblique angles, unless you are bobby charlton,who could score,without help, what are you to do ?

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    dis dressed

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • brew you were not the guy cleaning levi` [bev chapman was worse ]shoes under the table,or whatever, when he asked me if i would give him a cigarette,of course i complied with haste, incidently i agree with noggin ,that like most defenders martin makes mistakes every game,,,,,,although i do remember twice when it didn`t matter

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    dis dressed

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • Having watched Roma v Real Madrid last night, I would like us to defend more like Real Madrid.

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    Swiss Canary

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • Brewer, I was fascinated to read your comments about a pub called Gundry White's, which I had not heard about before. My interest comes from My grandfather's Lett's Pocket Diary for 1916. He was in the Royal Norfolk Regiment and survived the Battle of the Somme. My Grandfather was a Lewis Gunner on a specialist team put together by a Lt. Gundry-White. His diary details a number of meetings and actions with this officer and the regimental history records how Lt Gundry-White developed a method to attack the enemy with a team of Lewis gunners and cricketers. The Lewis gunners would open up to keep the defenders down while the cricketers came in and threw grenades into the trench, then everyone would jump in and finish the job off. My Grandfather never spoke of his WWI experiences so when his diary came into my possession about 5 years ago and I was able to research many details. Having cross-checked every day with the regimental and divisional history, I am not surprised that he never spoke of it, the carnage was unbelievable, including my grandfather's closest friend who was killed next to him at the Battle of Delville Wood. As the name Grundy-White is unusual and this seems to be the only Norfolk branch, I am going to do a bit more research on this. The records show that a George Gundry White took over the pub license on 26th July 1904 and was the operator until 1926, holding the licence until 1937. I will be searching to see if he had a son who could have been my Grandfather's Lt. in the Royal Norfolks in 1916.

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    Swiss Canary

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • As someone who was brought up on Stewart & Patersons and Batemans then latterly Wadsworths I do think the constant sniping at Russ Martin is unfair. A lot of posters who only listen to Radio Norfolk commentry and MOTD highlights which of course show a few minutes of the game concentrating on the goals and the defensive mistakes that cause them should watch the whole game and see some of the good work he also does during a game. Of course he makes mistakes as all defenders do in every game in the PL including the £30- 50 miliion superstars.Give the guy a break, he was asked to play at centre half which is not his best position and for me puts in some good games at right back .

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    NoggintheNog

    Thursday, February 18, 2016

  • That's bringing back memories MC, used to live near Shepards Bush every other pub was a Fullers brewery Never drunk it probably to expensive for me

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    iMac

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Reading MB's post on extinct breweries brings back memories. Didn't S & P buy Bullards first, then Watneys bought S & P? Could not stand Red Barrel - the best example of how the big breweries at the time ruined beer in the early 60s. Was a big supporter of CAMRA, which really did cause a change by the big breweries. Favorite beer of the era Fuller Smith and Turners ESB - 6.6%. Two pints would put you well on the way. Cheers to all!!

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    MichiganCanary

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • They need to spend hour after hour day after day watching spurs defend, then continue to say to themselves wish we could defend like that.

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    trev57

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • RM needs to set his sights on winning a tackle then if he could do this on regular occasions perhaps he might be worthy of a place in the team let alone captain.

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    Beachfarmpark

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Like you, iMac, I found 4 halves of Red Barrel plenty at the age of 16. It tasted a damn sight better than Lacon's, Tolly's, S&P and Bullard's. Morgan's was usually OK, but then it was produced in a clean, modern brewery. Which is why Watney's bought it from the local Brewmafia, who were more interested in asset stripping Morgan's pub portfolio. Until Watney's got them too... Best beer in Norwich was Draught Bass in Gundry White's. Nearly a whole week's paper round money gone in 2 pints of nectar. No regrets. And still just enough left over for chicken and chips in Purdy's... where I first met the delightful Levi McCarthy... Norfolk's answer to the Krayfish. Bullying coward.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • El Dingo -something like that , you got to remember in my days drinking wasn't the norm only the rich and single could afford booze and for a 16 year old who did not drink that was some headache I had Tetley bitter was another drink of my day do they still make it .

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    iMac

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • As someone who was weaned on Stewart & Pattersons progressing on to Batemans and towards the end of my beer drinking days Wadsworths ( mainly through the local pubs offering where I lived, I find the continual slagging of Russel Martin becomes quite tedious after a while. He does make mistakes as all defenders do - thats usually how goals are scored by the opposition. I think that a few of the posters on here listen to Radio Norfolk commentry and a few minutes of Match of the Day highlights which of course focus on goals and the failings of defenders like Russell Martin or the £30-50 million players fro Man U, City and every other team in the PL where goals are scored . For those of you who really watch Martin during the whole game you will be surprised at his overall contribution to the game. But if you want to focus on his mistakes then join the bandwagon that rolls along on here- or better still watch the all of the games and form your own opinions. Baaa baaa.

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    NoggintheNog

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Red Barrel was brewed at an original gravity of 1038.8, so would've had an ABV of around 3.8-4%. Pretty much middle of the road these days, maties. TBH, I've never liked the term "mate", even when I woz Pleb. Down to earth folk use it - and I don't much like them either. Too down, too earthy. My dad WAS a miniature WITH sideboards. He was often down to earth, especially after closing time at The Little John. I don't recall him ever using the term "mate". It's a bit Sid James or "On The Buses" really. A tad Reg Varney. Cor blimey, mate, Hahahah... I suppose I've been spoiled by regularly dining with my old chum Blowers at The Whiffler. Now that is a true down to Earth Closet, but Henry elevates the place with his wit and erudition, my dear old things.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • iMac if you could get p*$$ed on two pints of Watneys you must have been one cheap date:-) Best thing in the 70s if you were too young to get served was as many Stingos you could cope with then go in and get someone to buy you a coke - then out came the miniature you "borrowed" from Dad's sideboard:-)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Brewer - only about eight days left of this series of non-stories mon frere, amigo, comrade, mate, whatever. Nothing wrong with the word mate at all - down to earth folks use it all the time:-) Apart from Argentina, where it has an accent on the e and refers to a mildly addictive drink once enjoyed by Che Guevara and his mates (I mean amigos).

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Brew red barrel the drink of my youth , many a night coming home p????? On only two pints , that's all I could afford

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    iMac

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • F, off and do your talking on the pitch. Season after season i get sick of players lip service. JUST DO IT ON THE PITCH !!!!!

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    rob

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • What'd I say? As Ray Charles said in 1959. The history of Watney's goes back a bit further than that. Daniel Watney was born in 1702. More importantly, the best version of Ray Charles' song was by Roy Orbison. For any Little Norfolkers that rue the demise of Bullard's, Morgan's, Youngs & Crawshay and Steward & Patteson, remember this - the controlling families didn't have to sell up. They didn't have to accept sinecures prior to retirement in exotic places. Apart from Morgan's, all the breweries were decaying scr apyards. Watney's bought the best one, in King Street, and kept it going for longer than the idle greedy buhs would have. Just saying. On topic; I loved Red Barrel. Don't rate Russell Martin. No hate intended. @el dingo; Brewer HAS been around today. Pay attention, you there in the pointy-hat corner. Btw; is the use of "mate" de rigueur these days, strictly speaking? I abhor the term. Too matey, maties. A bit pleb, really, don't y'know my dear old things.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • What'd I say? As Ray Charles said in 1959. The history of Watney's goes back a bit further than that. Daniel Watney was born in 1702. More importantly, the best version of Ray Charles' song was by Roy Orbison. For any Little Norfolkers that rue the demise of Bullard's, Morgan's, Youngs & Crawshay and Steward & Patteson, remember this - the controlling families didn't have to sell up. They didn't have to accept sinecures prior to retirement in exotic places. Apart from Morgan's, all the breweries were decaying scrapyards. Watney's bought the best one, in King Street, and kept it going for longer than the idle greedy buhs would have. Just saying. On topic; I loved Red Barrel. Don't rate Russell Martin. No hate intended. @el dingo; Brewer HAS been around today. Pay attention, you there in the pointy-hat corner. Btw; is the use of "mate" de rigueur these days, strictly speaking? I abhor the term. Too matey, maties. A bit pleb, really, don't y'know my dear old things.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Almost Dingo almost. If you can't see something it might not be there .

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • haha tongue firmly in cheek but the point still stands, unfortunately mate :-)

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    GossVolley

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • GV: you're lucky Brewer's not around today writing a post like that - Frankie Howerd would have been proud of it! Trouble is, you're also quite right mate:-)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • You gotta love how Russ is still upbeat despite our lot having their sloppy tackles exposed in front of thousands every week getting repeatedly penetrated with power and pace

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    GossVolley

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • That's made my day Ole Tommy actually agrees with me , wow

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    iMac

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Blimey Tommy - I was half-expecting you to say we got rid of him 'cos NCFC always knows best! Could do with Hooper and Jonno next season I would imagine, and maybe Elliott B too 'cos that's how it's looking just now. If the worst does happen Howson and CJ will be vital keeps, as will Wes for one last season. 12 games to go yet though, so we'll see. Enjoy yer trip ter Lester and watch out fer Vardy's new Bentley in the car park.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • We won't know the answer to that ,iMac ,unless Sheff Wed get promoted to the Prem at the end of this season, and GH is in the team next season. If he is and scores a shed load of goals for the Owls, I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong. But there is a huge difference in being able to bang 'em in in the Champs and the PL. Ask Cameron Jerome, if you don't believe me.

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • ⚽ I ⚽ have ⚽ to ⚽ agree ⚽ wholeheartedly ⚽ with ⚽ iMac ⚽ Look ⚽ at ⚽ the ⚽ confidence ⚽ the ⚽ guy's ⚽ playing ⚽ with ⚽ and ⚽ the ⚽ results ⚽ since ⚽. . . .

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Thanks danpez, just when I forgot about him I am reminded of one of the worst decision AN has made . A natural goal scorer , before others say he is not a prem player , no such thing what is a prem player , vardy or the wolves guy

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    iMac

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Mick Ronson was similar to Suzi Q - low-slung white Les Paul which the late, great David Bowie liked to admire from close quarters. But By God could Mick Ronson play... Slaughter on Tenth Avenue = recommended listening. It's okay footy-only folks, this won't change for about a week 'cos there's no news. And won't be til then

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Wiv: Possibly because her bass guitar was well low-slung?

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • I remember that one Rick, somthing about Ally's tartan army. I loved the lines: "An it'll really sheek 'um op when we win the wald cop 'cos Scotland is the greetess fitba team". I don't remember hearing it much after the first match though. I bet Alex bought a copy and still plays it.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • liking the oxymoron of Watneys and beer.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • RM is not good enough at this level to captain the Club..Mistakes that more often than not contribute to losing matches excuses that no other respecting club in the prem would tolerate. Where D Freezer gets the front to print thus stuff gid onky knows.

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    johnty

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Ah, Top of the Pops in the seventies, question for some of you. Why did Suzie Quattro not have a visible panty line in her tight leather trousers.??

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • The Owls have climbed into the play-offs due to a striker banging in goals. Maybe we should buy him?...

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    danpez

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Rick: as a huge Manics fan I would suggest Everything Must Go. Or if that's too harsh, which it might be, From Despair To Where. Thirdly La Tristesse D'urere would prove adequate - unless we pick ourselves up and WIN FOUR GAMES out of 12!

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • The Scoreflash website do a form table based on the last 5,10, 15, and 20 games. I regret to announce we are in the bottom 3 in all of them. Unsurprisingly on the 5 game one we are rock bottom (joint with Crystal Pal). To keep the musical them going, and look on the bright side, perhaps we can persuade brainy scientific ex-rocker Prof Brian Cox to do a Norwich City themed re-release of 'Things can only Get Better' ?

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Oh God Lincs - I knew I was right:-(:-(:-(!

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Lincs: your post sums up why I wish the ultra-optimists would take a long, deep breath. Even those with free tickets.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • El Dingo sadly you are right. I still have the cassette.

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    Lincs Canary

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • And as for Lonnie Donegan - I know it was music hall originally, but I believe his skiffle style was somehow implicated in "My Old Man Said Be An Ar*enal (Ipswich) fan. That could be complete rubbish, but it's still probably the filthiest and finest football fan song ever created.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • If you did a mini league of the bottom six based on current form the top three places would be really tight with 3 teams on eight points (Sunderland\Swans\Villa). Then not far behind are Bmth\Newcastle on 7pts. No contest for bottom however with NCFC on one point. It could get you down if not for a nice warm break and time for AN to mull over what needs to be done. And on an even brighter note there are 36 points to play for, we keep scoring goals and have a settled defence. What can go wrong?

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    Lincs Canary

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • I vaguely remember some rubbish called Canary Rock'n'Roll or somesuch around the time of our losing 1970s League Cup finals? Please tell me I'm wrong.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Waclor, surely the prize for the most deluded musical statement of all time was the 1978 Scotland team's assertion that they they were 'Going to Win the World Cup' in 'The Argentine' ?

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Thanks Bru for reminding us that are aspects of football which have improved over the past 50 years. I still remember the cringingly embarrassing appearances on Top of the Pops of various football squads singing some dreadful song or other and looking about as comfortable as a Rabbi in an ISIS recruitment office. Then there was the duet from Hoddle and Waddle and the solo appearance by Kevin Keegan with his Shirley Temple perm. Now during reruns of TotP nobody notices the performers, they are all trying to work out what the DJ is doing in the back ground.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Mellow I like your analogy. I also believe with better weather over the spring and better pitches Nathan Redmond plays his best football!

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    OTFBC

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Seems to me that Russ remembers the Anfield game where he flew in at the last minute after the birth of his child, scored a brilliant goal and everyone forgot that he was poor in defence in that game as well. He therefore sees his salvation in scoring or making goals (which he is pretty good at) rather than defending where he is hopeless. You have to feel sorry for Archie who feel obliged to produce something new on this website every day when the club won't give them the info we want such as: "What has happened to Ryan Bennett?". You can't have a clean toilet without toilet cleaner and we can't have a clean sheet without Ryan, it seems.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • I believe RM is currently the best RB we have and last Saturday he played quite well. Which makes me wonder why we went out and wasted money on Pinto? Anyway I notice Swansea play Spurs and then Arsenal away - if we can pick up point(s) in our next 2 games and then beat Swansea at their place the table could look interesting.

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    OTFBC

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • It might be a little tricky, Brewer, your suggestion of Lonnie Donegan making a comeback, not least the fact he died 14 years ago. To be honest, I'd forgotten he was the musical genius behind World Cup Willie. Answer me this though.....Does YOUR chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight , Brewer ?

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Btw; The much reviled Watneys won the right to produce the Official World Cup beer. World Cup WilIie in bottles. I'm sure I have a bottle somewhere in the attic. A little cuddly lion on the label, wearing footy gear.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Absolutely, Mellow Yellow. I would not disagree with that in principle. I suppose the cynic in me would say that this time last year we were up against third rate outfits like Huddersfield, Millwall, Blackpool and Ipswich Town. Whereas now, we've got the likes of Leicester, Chelsea, Man U Man C and Arsenal standing between us and success. The discipline and team selection bit of your theory is up the AN. Then, it's over to the players.......

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Hi, Rick. Young Tommy Smith is what it says on the tin - a YTS boy. You don't often get those opportunities straight in at Board level... You're right about fans being kept in the dark by the Club. Then the players come out and throw $#!t over them. Hence the attendance figures continue to mushroom. A larger ground is long overdue. There's not mushroom inside now. Bring back Lonnie Donegan... My old man's a dustman... And what about World Cup WilIy in 1966? A Scotsman celebrating England's World Cup victory!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • In a strange way we are in the exact same position as this time last year; the team needed to work hard to get to where they were expected to be, culminating in that perfect end of season performance at Wembley. AN came in and set high standards, told the players that if you don't pull your weight you get dropped and kept a consist team through to the end.. Why can't we apply that same philosophy again?

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    MellowYellow

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Sycophancy, Brewer ? I am not worthy......... And Tommy Smith .. Did he not play for for our friends from down the A140 a few years back ? Perhaps he's one and the same. A dastardly plan by Marcus Evans to infiltrate Karra Towers ? Mind you, the REAL Tommy Smith was the erstwhile Liverpool hard man. Remember him ? On the subject of covert operations, do not assume this policy of keeping stuff from the fans is unique to Norwich City. I have colleagues and friends who support a whole host of clubs, and, to a man ,they grumble about being kept in the dark.

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Best comment today is TK's - if RB "supports the attack" or whatever you want to call it these days, LB doesn't. And vice versa. Something we seem not to understand and oh boy has it cost us. Back in the day Mark Bowen would pop up any and every where but Culverhouse always compensated by staying back. And it generally worked a treat. Personally I would like to see Olsson at LB with Brady in front of him, but the heat on here is too much for me to get involved in the RB debate just now! Oh for Kyle Naughton.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Hi TK. Apologies for my unsolicited sycophancy! But your last comment proves my point. Again. Just as Archie prefers incite to insight, so Karra prefers covert to overt. Another notion for a feature article: Ask Young Tommy Smith to give an overview of his Project Master Plan for his new toy. "From Corner Shop to Corporation"...

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • My God 61C, some of you guys really do need to get real and smarten up. Are you seriously saying that those of us who question statements made by players or coaches on here are 'haters' ? Presumably the fact that Archie have this message board attached to each story is to enable questioning, constructive criticism and fair debate. I see nothing on here that qualifies as hate. After a run of one point in 18 that has seen us plunge from comparative safety to the bottom 3, is it really any wonder that some of the comments are less than fully positive. For the record, much as I regard some of these 'stories' and interviews as a total waste of time, fair play to RM . It must be pretty difficult to keep coming up with new angles to put a positive spin on our precarious situation. I suppose it's part of his role as club captain that he needs to respond to these questions.

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Eureka! On el dingo's comment that we have a 10-day non-story stories patch coming up, could Archie's boys not rouse themselves to create a couple of insightful feature articles? Do they still have a token insider @ The Karra Kremlin? It used to be "Boycie" Phillips. Something on training regimes, or maybe ask The Loan Arranger to give a résumé on how our young loaned-out players are progressing. We haven't heard a peep from Neil Adams for a long time... How about an in-depth interview with Kyle Lafferty? I'm sure Archie prefers the inciteful to the insightful.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • A harsh comment there 61, I doubt anybody actually hates any of our players and I for one happen to think he is our best right back right now, however, that does not mean I am somehow in love with players either but for me he is not the ideal captain. A sensible captain would not have continued to hare forward from the right back slot when we had taken a two goal lead, that is the time to encourage others to be smarter and suck the opposition forward, then hit them on the break, to that end I for one was suggesting we should have introduced Jarvis with his pace in place of Wes.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • @61canarie - that is precisely why I find the triple ethering of my light-hearted and peace-brokering comments so perplexing. I can only conclude that Archant actively welcome the "hate" aspect of these message boards. It is only footy after all. It might be wise to give Russ a rest from PR duties, or at least share it around a bit. Even the normally benign DJ_F seems a bit cross. Good ole TrevorKeith remains as urbane as ever. Top man, IMHO.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • See the Martin haters are still refusing to give it a rest. He is club captain and a member of the squad so get used to it and try giving some support for a change. All this vitriol is hardly conducive to gaining the points we need and as for his comment on the mini league, did you expect him to say we were aiming for a top ten finish. I f you think life is so bad, try supporting them at Portman Road, then you would have the Blues.

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    61canarie

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Attempt to post something both conciliatory and light-hearted thrice frozen out.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Kenfoggo..our Captains ambition is exactly what it should be. Our only aim has to be to finish in the position we currently occupy. I'm not sure what else he could have said when asked questions like this?

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    Irish canary

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • I agree with many of the comments posted here and still think a decent captain is needed, one who makes sensible decisions at the right time. There is no point in playing well in periods of a game, if you then make basic errors such as seeing all 10 outfield players in the oppositions half when you are leading by 2 goals. Attaking full backs are all well and good but one at a time and only when you need to chase the game. Yes attack is often seen as the best form of defense but there are times when you need to be ready if the ball is lost and we clearly were not twice in quick succession against the Hammers.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Did Ryan Bennett play at CB in that "run" of clean sheets? That was uncharacteristic stuff from you, @DJ_F! You are usually more akin to the likes of the ineffably urbane TrevorKeith. I think Russ needs a rest from his platitude planting patrol. Give somebody else a go. RM's comments constitute a red rag to many bulls at the moment. I suggest good ole kno bbly knees Tettey, or engage Grant Holt as a guest platitudinisificator. I remember Holty apologising to the fans for not being fully fit, after recovering from a bit of ankle surgery. Vardy & Mahrez are a formidable prospect. Vardy is as sharp as a tack and his penalty "winning" skills are second to none. Tetts will need to sort him out before he gets within gripping range of Big Bass. Well outside the penalty area... We'll also need proper full-back(s) to deal with Mahrez. Afterthought:- Has Big Bass contracted G!nger Pele's Complaint? A delusional condition in which the sufferer believes he is an all-in wrestler.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Stop talking about it and just do it. And whilst you are at it, start talking to those around you. And stop watching the ball, and start watching the players you are supposed to be defending. It's alright saying 'no need to panic', but showing some urgency, especially when the opposition have the ball would be appreciated. And stop retreating and start tackling. Anything else? Probably, but for now enjoy the sunshine and stop talking cows pooh.

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    Erpingham Tractor

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Dingo cheer up, we'll just have to amuse (not abuse) ourselves for the next 10 days. The Ips*ich away supporter was late for a game, he saw a sign at a service station that read 'clean toilets', so he did.

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    cutty

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • This is the Club Captain speaking. He limits the ambition for himself and the Club to being top of the failures?!? Is this supposed to be inspirational? I find it underwealming.

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    kenfoggo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Still clinging to those 3 wins. Move on, for goodness sake Russ. We beat 10 man Southampton; all over the place Villa - both at home. And Man Utd. during their messed up phase. And then we utterly lost the plot. We have to start beating the mid table teams (which we have singularly failed to do all season) so it is going to be an enormous shift for us to stay up. And we have got to learn to defend. We have got to learn to hold a defensive shape. Wish I could be paid umpteen thousand pounds a week in a job where I don't seem to need to apply the basics...

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    Surrey Canary

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Maybe Vardy's new Bentley will break down on the way to the ground and he'll leave his mobile at home? Loves a little tumble in the box, does our Jamie. Eh Seb?

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • You are absolutely right dingo. I too am having sweaty palm -like premonitions about Messrs Vardy and Mahrez. But yes, the key period is between Mar 5 and Apr 23 . Seven games of which (unless anything unexpected happens v Leicester or Chelsea), the bottom line is we need to win at least four. If we achieve that, and there's no earthly reason why we can't, then we should finish well up RM's mini league. If we don't, we are down. End of.

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • DJ_F yes it is achievable but the sad thing is that we could so easily be sitting on 30 points right now (WHU x 2, Liverpool), looking down on a relegation battle that doesn't concern us. No wonder the natives are restless. There were some positives on Saturday, but as soon as West Ham's first went in most in the ground knew we'd be lucky to get a point. At least we did. The thought of that early long ball through to Vardy or Mahrez is scaring me already - who do we have who could catch them? Anyway April will sort the men from the juveniles. Let's hope we're then men!

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • DJ-F ,I'm assuming that 'whiners' is your word for those of us who, firstly, are fed up of the same old platitudes being trotted out in these so called interviews and, secondly, are dispirited by our teams amazing ability to make basic mistakes and throw points away. Unwittingly, in his comments concerning the Villa and Southampton games, Russell Martin hits the nail firmly on the head. Because those are the two games in which we managed to keep a clean sheet . If you cut out the schoolboy errors , you have a pretty good chance of not conceding, and then, even if the team as a whole does not play well, it vastly increases its chances of nicking 3 points.

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    Rick

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Spot on DJ_F, it's not winning the mini league that matters, of course we'd love to, but securing that top 3 position is the aim. Would we have settled for 17th place at the start of the season, probably. It's a real shame that when people see the words Martin and Russell, they immediately have to spout off without thinking.

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    nevermindthedanger

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • Fine City if you had actually bothered to read rather than making your useless response you might see he is almost spot on. Only we don't need to win the mini league but finish top 3. Still achievable despite all the whiners saying otherwise. OTBC

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • I fear we may have around 10 days-worth of these "stories" to come:-(

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

  • The League one player lives in a day dream.

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    Wednesday, February 17, 2016

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