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Rumour Mill: Ricky van Wolfswinkel’s Norwich City exit moves a step closer after Sporting Lisbon meet City’s valuation

13:35 06 July 2015

Dutch media report Norwich City and Sporting Lisbon have reached an agreement over a potential permanent deal for Ricky van Wolfswinkel. The Dutch international must now agree personal terms. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Dutch media report Norwich City and Sporting Lisbon have reached an agreement over a potential permanent deal for Ricky van Wolfswinkel. The Dutch international must now agree personal terms. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

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Norwich City’s record signing Ricky van Wolfswinkel is in discussions with former club Sporting Lisbon regarding personal terms after the clubs reportedly agreed a transfer deal, according to Dutch media on Monday afternoon.

Dutch football magazine, Voetbal International, claim the Canaries are ready to sanction van Wolfswinkel’s return to Portugal after it emerged last week the Lisbon club were keen on recruiting their former striker, who they sold to Norwich in 2013 for a reported initial fee of £8.5m.

Portuguese newspaper A Bola stated City were demanding 5.4m euros (£3.8m) for the forward to cut short his Carrow Road stay prior to the weekend, with talks already underway with the Dutch international’s representative, Louis Laros.

Van Wolfswinkel spent last season on loan at French club St Etienne and is due to link up with Alex Neil’s squad this week.

The striker has two years left on his current Norwich deal.

51 comments

  • Just to say that after Ewan Roberts first season here , a few years ago, he was given the same sort of treatment now being given to RVW. Fans were saying he'll never make it, what a waste of space etc. Wonder what happened in his second and subsequent seasons.?

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, July 8, 2015

  • meanwhile in fantasy land , turnips are on the up. Nathan Dyer will not leave Swansea for under £10m , will NCFC pay that much. Perhaps £7m and a life's supply of turnips, they are a Welsh team after all, they have to feed the sheep.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • We should forget about the money we paid for him and get what we can to help re-invest in players that will do a job. Otherwise just an unnecessary distraction. Onwards and upwards...

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • I think our main priority is to get in a decent centre half and I wouldnt look any further than Jason Shackell,he had a good season with Burnley in the Premier won a lot of MOM awards and obviously knows Norwich.He has 1 year left on his contract and Derby are interested in him at £3m,he would be a good buy at a reasonable price,imo

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    canaryjon

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • It looks as though we may have got rid of him He was a disaster on the Pitch and financially to the Company.We can't win them all but a serious lesson must be learned from this one.It's good news that AN prefers to look in the domestic market.

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    irongloves

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Given all this squit about transfers ... or lack of, I actually given some thought what would be best for our club in the long term...we have to face reality, we aren't going to break into the top 7 (10?) in the country on a regular basis, reallistically we aren't going to be taken over by a multi-billionaire who can bankroll the club for many years .... so what we actually need to do is secure the club for the future, the club should set-up a trust or endowment...stick the millions we get from current TV money into it and then we guarantee ourselves interestinvestment income to cover costs whatever division we are in...when we stay up we can do the same next year, so we end up with a club that in the long term is self sufficient and can run on the interest earned from its cash endowment, so you don't end up wasting it on overpriced and overpaid players that only last a season or two. We also need to focus on bringing through the youth players, these are the earners of the future and actually care about the club ... just a thought anyway!!

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    Count

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Agree with waclor, Van Dijk must be our priority.

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    jigs69

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Don't get me wrong I love this club and followed them for 4o years but I hate the clubs owners and the Board the way they deal in transfers . Alway want players on the cheap have to always cut the price of any player they are interested in and up loosening out on them they have just become a very tight with money even thou they have more funds now than they ever had sorry but city will go straight back down.

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    City man

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • The owners are only interested in keeping the vast amount of the sky money in the bank I never known such a tight club they are worse now . I feel Sorry to all fans but this club will be relegate back down something they don't deserve .

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    City man

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • I see Joe Royal backs city to stay in the premeirship talk is cheap the same as the city board. I see we failed with another bid for Hulls Brady it seem Norwich are having problems in buying new players, why because they want all players on the cheap alway have to under cut The value even thou it's not that high price . City are just tight club and the board don't deserve to be in the prem just letting the fans down I've backed them to go back down .

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    City man

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • I think we are gonna be fine. You lot are worrying far too much in my book! We have a month before the first game, thats plenty of time. As for the squad, we certainly NEED a central defender and a left sided winger. Once they come in, take a look at the squad, it will be mainly the same team as the one which very narrowly went down 2 years ago but with a vastly better lone striker with improved options on the bench, Wes back on the pitch (thank god), Redmond playing on the correct side of the pitch, an effective left winger, an improved midfield, strength in depth too which we have always lacked! Then the defence, Bassong is back and seems to really want it (at last), Martin is hungry as ever, I have never seen Whittaker play so well as he has under AN, and another face in the mix (probably a starter) to really strenghten at the back. Obviously Ruddy is as good as ever so no worries in net. I cant see how anyone thinks this isnt good enough!

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    Cozens

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Offset the RVW loss against the Snoddie inflated profit and we aren't that much out. AN will know what he wants. At the moment he's focussed on getting the players he has ready. Few players are actually getting signed as agents hold out for more, more, more, playing clubs off against each other.

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    Surrey Canary

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Sporting Lisbon are meeting our valuation of him? What, they think he's worthless too?!

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    troublesome1

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • If the press are to believed RVW doesnt want to play for us as we are not good enough,we should lend him to Brighton for a 2 year loan where he can get back to the man who thought he was the next best thing.We have already paid out the 8 mil and that is done and dusted,we should look to the future.We have the players who WANT to play for us and players who only play for CASH are not welcome. Come on u yellows bring on the Premier league and lets be showin them.OTBC

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    canarykid

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Some may ask what overall strategy? The close study of what in the past has made yoyo clubs like West Brom etc and how they overcame it. Tackliing people who too frequently employ words like "our little club" Maintaining that as money becomes available from a prolonged stay in the top flight we can expand to a 40000 capacity stadium and become a bigger club. Looking forward to twenty years time when with expanding population we shall evolve to a 60000 seater stadium and arrive as a big club. As I am overly fond of saying to aspiring young footballers "Look East young man the future is bright it's Yellow & Green" (With apologies to Horace Greely for playing havoc with his verse "Go west young man...and adapting it to my own selfish purpose)

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    mardler

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • Everyone likes a bit of speculation - no harm in that but the point has been made - let us have confidence in AN. What concerns me is that despite having to write off a considerable sum on RVW we (as a club) do not hesitate for one moment to spend an even bigger sum on the right men to fix present team shortcomings. It is overall strategy that I need to see confirmed by action.

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    mardler

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • @Michigan.... I think the Board get a tough time. They will offer the cash, hence we made the mistake of RVW in the first instance.... when only CH and 'fickle' Norwich fans thought he was the right man to replace... er Grant Holt?! This is actually all on NA. I think he's really thinking hard about what to do. I've said this before, I don't think he had the right formation balance last season BECAUSE he wouldn't drop the older, senior pros and bigger personalities in the squad, hence 5 effectively central midfielders on the pitch at a given time: Dorrans came straight in, Tettey... pushed Howson and Johnson to the wide roles plus Wes (hardly a striker)... it worked out in the end but had he dropped one of them for width we'd have gained automatic promotion. Next season the difference in finished 3rd over 1st or 2nd could mean relegation... so i think he has to tinker and right now he's probably realising what some of us have seen for a long time. Johnson is the best personality there, Howson the most talented, Tetley the least droppable... but no 2 of them have EVER worked as a partnership without serious shortfalls, namely leadership, confidence, organisation. It's why NA got Gary O'Neill, it's why AN got Dorrans & Mulumbu. But Johnson (in particular) is the heartbeat of the team and for me must start.... but who with? And what then for all the other midfielders? How will he man-manage them? Very interesting times right now. Ollson is not good enough for the Prem. Whits is not good enough but is crucial for Redmond to thrive. Bassong plays for money rather than love. Martin is crucial as Captain but isn't good enough WHEN partnered with ANY of our current central defenders.

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    mikeskisandflies

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • mikesk... you are absolutely right - we need a defence. The four starters are the same 4 that got us relegated and made many mistakes along the way. Also they are now two years older the Premier League is arguably even better, plus it looks like Olssen will not be fit for the start of the season. Would like to have seen a couple of new defensive faces at the start of training, and part of the team building that is going on. Am I worried, yes I am, but still hoping AN will be able (allowed?) to make the right moves.

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    MichiganCanary

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • I'd pay 8 million for Dyer. He's a known quantity on like some... But the key thing is he would supplement this squad, not walk in (possibly like Mulumubu) and effectively (by ability) dictate that the core of the team, the camaraderie, is ripped up. He'd quietly slip in on (probably) the left of midfield and nobody in that squad would bat an eyelid... whats more is he's worked his way up in football, much like our core group. BJ is NOT a left midfielder!!!! Especially at Prem level. Not only are we short an entire defence, (R Bennett must be coming at the bit for pre season) but we really lack a known first 11 right now. One striker is fine but it means you need goals, lots of them, from supporting midfielders... and the most dangerous player is Redmond and he's not a prolific scorer, neither is Dyer, but they both create so many chances. Trouble is if you play 2 holding midfielders (Tetley presumably won't get dropped & Mulumbu whom is the most proven PL player now in the squad) then goals suddenly look scarce. Wes doesn't score for fun either. I hope AN has a plan, I'm sure he does, but right now it seems to be to let the Wembley team start the sesason and see how they get on. Whilst I love and endorse such an approach it's clearly obvious to me that we need an attacking wide player. I don't Brady fits that bill only because he's unproven... I wonder if our management and board are giving him to much credit or being blinded by Man Utd upbringing? Sure, as a LB, but he's not set the world on fire at Hull. Whereas Mulumbu is better,

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    mikeskisandflies

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • When this over rated , over priced , over hyped waste of space played his first game for Norwich it was apparent that the Club had been sold a pup. RVW was never equipped in the skill or physique departments to be a threat to any Premier back four. Best to off load this expensive error of judgement and get as much for him as possible and draw a line under the whole sorry episode.

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    kenfoggo

    Tuesday, July 7, 2015

  • It,s a bit worrying of some already negative comments on here. Does anyone really know what the board have up their sleeves, and for AN for that matter. I for one am sure we will get the necessary reinforcements to bolster and improve the squad. Everything put aside, we haven,t kicked a ball in anger in the Prem yet, so still plenty of time. Or is it me still at Wembley with rose tinted specs, c,mon guys keep the faith. OTBC

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    Bald Canary

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • How true Flecky. With the benefit of hindsight, the promotional poster for the Dutch toe stubber should've featured RVW desperately flailing a banjo in the foreground + a cow's @rse in the background.....

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    Timbo

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Some of the posts are starting to get concerned, as I am, that are ownership cannot afford to buy the caliber of players needed to survive in the Premier League. This was why Lambert fell out with the board and left, then their reaction was CH and let him chuck a few million around. Hopefully the board and owners have learned from this, and will give AN the money to bring in some capable defenders, along with a capable striker, although I think Jerome's ability really grew at the end of the season, and in the play-off final he performed as a good lone striker against a very good defense. On the money side, maybe it is now time for a new football mad rich owner who is willing to spend his or her money to achieve results, vs running the club as a business to earn money or offset losses.

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    MichiganCanary

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Once bitten twice shy... We spend money on players such as RVW and Fer and even Hooper to a certain extent and then get relegated. Of course the board are going to be reluctant to part with serious £. Don't forget, as much AN has proven his capacity, he's unproven in the Prem. Sure he won't be as bad as Hughton but the board aren't going to sign off each and every possible request that comes in. We want something for nothing and mores the better. Hypothetically spend a cool £15 mill on Dyer and Austin each (who are probably not going to want to come to Norwich) but they flop and if we stay up we sell them at a loss. Have to be patient and realistic. Bournemouth have a billionaire owner in the shadows and Watford are clawing at hopes and dreams. Remember that butt-clenchingly bad media promotion of RVW, 'Beware of the big bad wolf' with glowing wolf's eyes in the background...?! I don't want that hype over nothing again. It's humiliating for a quality club like city.

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    Go_Fleck_Urself

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • It is a bit ironic to read posts where the board are urged to spend large sums of money, at the same time being castigated for the money lost on Ricky. No manager gets every signing right and it takes time to find the right players. Ricky was bought early wasn't he? If my memory serves me correctly, he or his agent then started making negative noises when it looked like Hughton was going to get us relegated in his first season. That was two months before he joined the club and his suggestion that The Championship was good enough for them but not for him cannot have helped him bond with his new team mates. Bad handling all round I'd say.

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    waclor

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Sky Sports are saying we have had three offers rejected by Hull for winger Robbie Brady, the latest being for £3m. He's got one year left on his contract.

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    zebbee

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Agree totally Trev 57 and Andy. How can a guy work his strengths when a team is playing. A completely different game.

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    JB

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • It's all very well seeing these guys being offloaded, but it's also about time that a number of quality players start to be brought in before our competition snap themup and only the dregs are left - again! I would have thought that McNally and co would have learnt their lessons in that respect from previous experience. We need at least 6 quality players who can be integrated into the squad through the pre season training NOW as opposed to just rushing them in before or even after 8thAugust. Get spending some of that £120m now Mr McNally - and be prepared to be brave with it this time. Otherwise you will soon end up with a load of disgruntled fans and a disgruntled manager - again!

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    Honest Injun

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Dyer is a good player - trouble is Swansea want £15m for him.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I feel that sometimes players are badly let down by some managers who seem to expect instant results, I cannot see that it's possible that a player with talent can suddenly turn into a player with no talent,usually problems are caused by lack of confidence women problems or booze but with Norwich it seemed to be buy loads of strikers but never actually give one of them a chance to settle in,but then I suppose if you don't know what you are doing keep doing it and law of averages says one day you might get it right.

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    trev57

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I think that if he goes it is probably it is probably the best for all concerned. However I am still of the view that he was caused considerable harm by CH who failed to integrate him into that team or to play to his strengths. He did have the ability to find space for himself in the box but for whatever reason the rest of the team ignored him. AN has managed to transform many of our players and the way the team plays. Wonder what he might have done for RVW?

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    andy

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Hopefully winkels money can go towards buying Brady from hull.Iread that A N doesn't want to pay the 7 million asking price for him.Didnt we get 6 million for snods?so 7 for Brady is about right I would say.why are they being so tight, buy some decent players,they have the money,they need to strengthen the squad,simple mr Neil, flash the cash,if not we know what will happen!!

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    tonyb

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • More interested in who Norwich are getting in? They need at least 4 quality new signings to survive in the Prem ....

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    dave123

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Dijk,Dyer,Austin you must be joking they would rather go to Watford or Bournemouth who are ambitious and Don't have McNalley pulling the purse strings,wait and see who is coming up for nothing or loan. Nothing changes in that department at Carrow Road. I give Alex one season and then he will do a Lambert totally fed up with the board.

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    El tel

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Hopefully this will be the last we hear of this flop.

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    rob

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I to would like to see Dyer brought in - he would make a great acquisition to our squad for the reasons you have outlined - no brainier - just go and get him. What about a centre half - come on AN - we have needed one for two seasons, I think we can afford to buy Van Dijk however much it takes - that will save us money in the long run and free up Martin for full back duties.

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    VictorM

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I'm amazed that non of you has jumped on the Nathan Dyer bandwagon. Pipe dream or not, I'd take him ahead of any other attacking signing. He's as big a signing as this club should aspire too... we don't want the money grabbers like Bassong or the Euro glamour trash signings like RVW. We want the most underrated UK players in the game, and I've always been surprised that Dyer hasn't featured for England. He's always impressed me at all levels and he's always looked dangerous against us... I think he has a lot more goals in him. He'd be a great role-model for Redmond and will naturally fill the other flank, although of course he's known for his RW at Swansea... but unless I'm mistaken wasn't that engineered to accommodate routledge? This is a player, at the top of his game, that doesn't threaten the comraderie of our squad because he'll quietly slot into wide areas where we have little competition yet will provide almost exponential creativity and attacking intent to what we have.... I don't want some glory boy dislodging the key personalities in midfield, the likes of BJ, Howson, Tetley, O'Neill, Dorrans... they deserve their crack at the whip.... but Dyer would just slot in like for like for Wes or on the wing and not one of the aforementioned players would dispute his inclusion... frankly he's one of them... he's been there and proven he could cut it and stayed in the PL when others were relegated and no managers came in for them. Dyer has worked his way up, he's good enough, he's better than what we have. He'd be a perfect signing.

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    mikeskisandflies

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I wonder if the player feels any remorse over the club losing 5M on him due to his lack of form, or whether he blames the club and management for not playing him correctly? There does not seem to be the same accountability for a footballer performing as there is for someone working for a company. Would have liked to have seen AN try and do something with him, but probably better to see AN focused on ensuring the whole team gets a mid-table finish vs having to spend time trying to resusssitate the career of one individual.

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    MichiganCanary

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • What makes me smile is that a friend of mine here in Portugal always maintained that Sporting unloaded a 'pup' on us when we bought van Wolfswinkel from then....and results and performance seem to support that notion, so if they want him back they get him and have made 5 million euros overall on the deal. Not a bad bit of business!!

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    Algarve Canary

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Please please Archie say no more until the deal is done. I'm losing the will to live.

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    cutty

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I see that QPR have turned down a £12 million offer for Charlie Austin. Didn't they only go for him because we nicked Hooper from under their noses? Funny how things turn around, they make a huge profit on him while we take a loss on both RVW and Hooper (if we sell him we're not going to get £5 million). Mind you I think QPR will need the money to pay the fine the Football League should be applying to them soon.

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    PaulWho

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Much better news would be the arrival of Dick van Dyke from Celtic.

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    waclor

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Best news of the window so far. Now what has happened to Dieumerci……………………….

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    Paul Hanworth

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Timbo - trouble is they are only offering to pay in Drachma's. Shame to see my fellow countryman not making the grade over here.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • It sounds like a good plan for everyone involved. Now let's get on with the real business of strengthening the squad to meet the challenges to come.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • its probably due to the rowhedge turnip taking a dive against the 'alleged' portuguese sardine. Although i did hear that brundle beet was holding its own and that the west country mangelwurzel was the best place to invest profits in.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I wouldn't pay a million for him. I've just seen 40,000 City fans walking down Carrow Rd laughing. They were heading for the bank....

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    Timbo

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • I really hope this transfer works out. Let's all draw a line under it now and please, Archie, no constant monitoring of how our "club record signing" is doing in Portugal. I for one really do not want to know. Hopefully we'll have a few in of our own soon to talk about anyway.

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    el dingo

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • There's also the savings on RvW's wages to take into account,however many millions they are.There ought to be enough in the kitty for Charlie Austin to replace him.

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    Peter Watson

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • 3.8? That'll do nicely. Take the money and run

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    Bill Punton's bald patch

    Monday, July 6, 2015

  • Well it looks like we will be seeing the back of him at last. I didn't think he would want to be in Norwich to long after all the adverse criticism. A sad period in City's history. When will AN be allowed to buy in some reinforcements or will the £3.8 million be shifted away in the vault with the othe £120 million.

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    VictorM

    Monday, July 6, 2015

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