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Rumour Mill: Norwich City weigh up loan move for Leicester City centre-back Yohan Benalouane

17:17 25 January 2016

Leicester City defender Yohan Benalouane has been touted with a loan move to Norwich City. Picture: PA

Leicester City defender Yohan Benalouane has been touted with a loan move to Norwich City. Picture: PA

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Norwich City could be tempted to make a loan move in the closing days of the window for Leicester City centre-back Yohan Benalouane.

Italian football site, tuttomercatoweb.com, reported on Monday afternoon the French defender is in City’s sights and available for a short term move after being limited to just nine appearances for the high-flying Foxes this season since his switch from Serie A club Atalanta last summer.

Sampdoria and Fiorentina are both interested in offering Benalouane a return to Italy, but Norwich are reportedly willing to match Leicester’s €1m loan fee. The Canaries freed up a loan option after turning Matt Jarvis’ initial temporary deal from West Ham into a permanent move earlier this month.

Alex Neil has since recruited defensive reinforcements in Ivo Pinto and Timm Klose but Norwich have conceded 11 goals in their past three league games and slipped to a 5-4 defeat to Liverpool at the weekend.

The Tunisian defender has made only four Premier League appearances behind established first choice pair Robert Huth and Wes Morgan for the leaders but did feature in both FA Cup ties against Tottenham in recent days.

The transfer window closes on February 1 at 11pm.

87 comments

  • Not sure they're typical of day-to-day postings. But certainly all too regular. Obviously I am one of the guilty parties in this instance. I usually don't bother with it, but sometimes I feel the (pointless) need to jump in when I think someone (usually Brewer) has been overly or unduly rude to someone else. Of course, that then leads to all sorts of tangential rubbish. Unfortunately, while Brewer no doubt has a fabulous vocabulary, "sorry" (or words of similar construct) appear to be missing. So if anyone takes issue, mud-slinging ensues.

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    PutneyCanary

    Thursday, January 28, 2016

  • CS , yes unfortunately they are , hence my last post. Perhaps some people can't manage 'witter' or what ever is called. This is a NCFC FOOTBALL site after all. ( abusive responses on a post card please )

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    Victor Bullimore

    Thursday, January 28, 2016

  • Are these comments on this thread typical of day to day postings? Just asking? Anyone?

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    Comrade Smoultty

    Thursday, January 28, 2016

  • I've never felt a referee. But you're more than welcome to join. Turns out Brew is buying, too. So you'd best get in quick - before he turns your offer of refereeing into an accusation that you're threatening to beat him up...

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    PutneyCanary

    Thursday, January 28, 2016

  • sorry, should read "feel a referee"

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Just waded through Archie's latest batch of rumours and can't say I'm particularly impressed. Surely the club's supporters should expect better. It reminds me of something Oscar Wilde once said. "By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, journalism keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community." (please forgive if memory is not entirely accurate). I gather we are now looking at a young(ish) midfielder from Palermo, is this to make Laffs feel more at home, or are we to seriously believe that NCFC is deficient in that particular department? Mayhap the plan is to field one keeper and ten mid-field players to confuse the opposition. Damned clever these Scots! However, if insufficient investment during the remaining four days is to be the strategy and relegation the outcome then how pray, do the board see the way back after the lost TV millions? Sadly, I am coming to have more than a little sympathy with those who hold the view that our ownership is indeed happy with life in what I still think of as league division two. Finally, if Putney and Brewer fell a referee would be useful for their Soiree in Norwich my rates are extremely reasonable.

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Plenty of tax in Cayman...just not on income (or corporations). The result of import and sales taxes levied here make 4 quid a pint look like an absolute bargain...! And I was in London until just over a year ago - you'd struggle to get change from a fiver for a pint. Obviously don't get to go to games anymore - but able to watch pretty much all of them over the internet. I guess we'll just have to buy each other's drinks. In which case, mine will be a treble, thank you very much...!

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    PutneyCanary

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Putney, a truly great notion. I love having beers in Norwich. See you ere long? I insist on buying, though. There's no way you could afford it back here in Blighty. £4 a pint. Tax and stuff, don't you know. Iniquitous, left-wing liberal lunacy. Do you get to many Norwich games these days? I suppose the odd airfare to England can easily be "lost" in transactions, but the beer prices here are something else.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Are you threatening to come out to Cayman to beat me up, Brew? See - anyone can turn something into something it is not. The offer was for a drink in a pub in Putney or Fulham prior to the Fulham game (which we lost 5-0, if I remember correctly). I didn't know back then that you never attend games. If memory serves, you had suggested (I don't know on what basis) that I may be impecunious - and so I said I'm sure I could stretch to buying you a drink. I don't think I could stretch to paying your airfare to Cayman...nor would I want to. But, how about this: next time I'm back in Norfolk, I'll let you know and extend a further offer of buying you a drink somewhere in Norwich.

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    PutneyCanary

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • I really wish I'd taken up your offer of a bash in the bars and bistros of Barnes, PutCan. Missed opportunity. I cannot afford the crossing to Cayman. Have you a few spare currency units? Are parrots indigenous to The Caymans?

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Mighty Brew - thank you so much for allowing me to comment on your post. It sure is gracious of you. And please, don't ever let anyone try to convince you to get bogged down with such things as substance. Just keep imagining you've got the whole of Old Trafford behind you screaming "attack, attack, attack". Now, about those anger issues. Do you attend regular meetings for that? Even if only to focus on others faults without confronting your own? Just asking...

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    PutneyCanary

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Language, Reggie! ;-) I taut I tau tautology a-cweepin' up on me...

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Oh dear , it seems we are back to what I have referred to in the past as 'boarding school banter' Can we please get back to talking about FOOTBALL , and NCFC in particular After all , that is what this site is about. There are plenty of more appropriate sites where people can score points off each other. Re NCFC , it would seem that the wheels are coming off after a good festive season AN stock has dramatically diminished as the season has progressed. Some are calling for him to be sacked , and he's been accused of a host of 'crimes' including arrogance & of wearing tartan glasses. We will never know what goes on within Carrow Rd , relying on gossip & rumour from the likes of Archie (least said about that , the better ) what we do know is what we see on the pitch. This season we have seen the good , the bad & the ugly. Only time will tell which Norwich team we finish up with at the end of the season. One or two more signings as good as Brady , Jarvis , Naismith etc will certainly help. I think they are a vast improvement on those shipped out. AN is a young enthusiastic manager still learning , but (I think) potentially a great. Sir Alex F took some time at Man U to get it right , & one of his attributes was arrogance ! Let's get behind the Team , the Board ,& manager , stop squabbling & look forward to a successful conclusion to the season.

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    Victor Bullimore

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • PutCan, I think I'm going to follow el dingo, and leave the board to your good self and Mad B. It's all too pleonastic for me :)

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    Reg Breeze

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Facultative is just a word that crops up in the microbiological lexicon, as in "facultative anaerobe". No big deal. Just a word. Nothing to get all inferiority-complexed about. Btw, PutCan. You are free to describe my post as "genuinely awful". I actually think yours are consistently terrific.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • I think I'm going to have to enjoy a Henry Westons and come back afterwards - some words on here this morning are a bit beyond my ken. Putney: I had the privilege of working in Paris for a good few months but as you suggest, I still had to go into the office from 8 till 4 four days a week and that office could have been anywhere so I understand where you're coming from. I still think you're a lucky B though:-)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Reg - lol. I only "re-tweeted" it...! I confess that I had to double check the meaning. On first reading it struck me as pleonasm. Definition checked - theory confirmed. Easy to say very little if you like Sesquipedalian words. The bedrock of Mighty Brewer's Purple Prose.

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    PutneyCanary

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • tunsteadtiger, that should have read £100k per match.

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    Reg Breeze

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • TrevorKeith, I agree in general with your summation and think that the spare loan spot should be used for a defensive midfielder. Neither Dorrans nor Mulumbu (when used) come up to Tettey nor O'Neil's standards, and that is a key part of Saturday's defensive problems. My one disagreement is that I believe Wisdom offers more than RM at RB? tunsteadtiger, I suspect all loan deals to PL clubs are at least 1m euros, and for UK deals £1m? Add the player's salary of £30k per week and other unseen expenses, then these 6 month loan deals are close to £1m per match. This is why it's so dumb when one reads here that all our incoming transfer fees and tv money is available to spend on new players. Mad B (and PutCan), now using words like "facultative" might be seen as subjugating us lesser mortals with our limited, ill-read vocabulary, even when only used at your discretion :)

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    Reg Breeze

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • Igno - no. If you follow the chain below, you will see in MBs last post directed at me, he said: "All my sycophants will eagerly tell you that I am a facultative wimp" - so I used his term, not mine (hence the use of quotations). So no "tar-brushing" from me. For what it's worth, I do (and have said I do) occasionally find MBs posts mildly amusing and sometimes insightful...my problem is always (and only) that when Brew is not being mildly amusing and sometimes insightful, he is also sometimes intentionally rude to anyone who takes any form of issue with any of his posts. He then resorts to some level of personal mud-slinging which even if not always totally uncalled for, is certainly always unbecoming. I imagine that Brew, in the nicest possible way, to criticise AN for being brusque, opinionated and an egotist would be a little like David Cameron criticising anyone else for being rich or pompous...! On your final question: good one! Unfortunately I still have to work hard (although nothing like in London)...and when not working, it's a very nice life. Still miss Norfolk (where my parents still live) from time to time, however.

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    PutneyCanary

    Wednesday, January 27, 2016

  • PutneyCanary, If, your last post was intended to imply that any of us who on occasion, find some of The Mad Brewer's contributions mildly amusing and sometimes even insightful, are suffering from galloping sycophancy, I for one, find such a disdainful attitude more than a little insulting. By all means continue your little squabble with The Brewer, but have the decency to confine same. I am delighted to read that your "chosen career" commits you to a lifetime of pacifism (not a clerical gentleman perhaps?) and that your pen is mightier than your non-existent sword. However, your "tar brush" is something that you might consider using a little more sparingly. I conclude by asking (in the hope that you are not a totally humourless individual) does anyone actually "work" in the Cayman Islands?

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    Igno Rance

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Wow. I don't think you could have done more to prove my point about you, Brew. What a genuinely awful post. Making defamatory comments about my career (yes, I do live and work in the Cayman Islands, no, I do not launder money). Accusing me of threatening you - you've raised this before (I recall you called me a gorilla) - you clearly don't remember that on that occasion, even one of your "sycophants" (I can't remember which) confirmed that they thought my offer really was nothing more than a genuine offer to buy you a beer in person. Just because you seem to go into a blind mud-slinging rage as soon as anyone dares to suggest that you've been rude, obnoxious or arrogant even - doesn't mean that you should apply the same child-like qualities to others. For what it's worth, I've never hit (or threatened to hit) anyone - and I suspect that will remain the same for the remainder of my life. It goes with my choice of career, you see - I'm far more likely to be damaging with my words than I could ever be with my fists! Re testosterone - no idea. I do suffer male pattern baldness - that's a sign, I think. Do you have insecurity issues? Or just plain anger issues? Or delusional? Just questions...

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    PutneyCanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • PutCan: You are right, of course. My indefensibility is indefensible. Btw, I thought you were busy laundering lucre in The Cayman Islands. I'm truly happy that you do not feel bullied by me. I never bully people - except bullies. All my sycophants will eagerly tell you that I am a facultative wimp. Why don't we meet by Barnes Bridge so you can give me a good beating? Do you play Rugby? Do you have testosterone overload issues? Just asking.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • No, no Igno. I was referring to the "screw your courage to the sticking place and we'll not fail" bit. But Archie seems to find it offensive for some reason or another. I shake my gory locks in disbelief.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • €1million loan fee? Isn't that about €62,000 a game? Yeah like right NCFC paying that no way.

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    tunsteadtiger

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Given that we have just signed Klose and already have a couple of other reasonable centre backs I would rather we used that spare loan slot for a player elsewhere on the park. I would much rather see us go out and buy an up and coming under 21 centre back for the future. We have to accept that it is more than possible that we may once again get relegated, therefore I see little point in totally hacking off players that would be happy to stay if the worst happens. I doubt that Klose, Pinto or come to that Naismith will want to play in the Championship, sad but true. I still think Bennett organises the defence well when selected and hence would play him alongside Klose against Spurs. Hopefully Tettey will be available and then we will be in with a decent chance of taking something from the game. As much as I have criticised Martin at centre back, he has played well at right back at times this season. Pinto looked ok on Saturday but was struggling during the latter stages due to the speed of the game. I do not see Wisdom as any better than Martin and in fact would be releasing him back to his parent club.

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    TrevorKeith

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I'm sorry u don't agree with what I think of your player Kevin. The truth is we need a leader at the back and he imo is not. All my very good friends that are season ticket holders at Leicester. Have said he's a panicker on the ball and all his does is boot it up the field. I would of much perfered the polish lad wailski i think thats his name.? on loan and he would help us a lot more. His big strong and a great tackler. Something that this norwich team need at this time of the season.

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    Grant Hurst

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Grant Hurst. What rubbish you do spout. I am a LCFC season ticket holder and just want to answer (imo) a few doubts shone of your fans have about the possible loan of Yohan Benoluane! Grant Hurst states that over here we all call him panic alot??...what utter tosh..i, personally have never ever heard that handle attributed to him...the truth is that he is well liked by the fans here, he is a very capable premiership cb, he is more than good enough, Claudio Ranieri rates him highly and had wants him to stay but has stated " he is a great guy to work with and understands that i am very reluctant to change a solid cb pairing of Morgan and Huth whilst they are working together so well, but he is a very good player in his own right and doesn't deserve to sit on the bench every week so it is only right and fair to allow to play elsewhere regularly for someone else" CR's own words!...and the player also harbours hopes of playing in the summer and will only be selected if he is playing well and regularly.....so please don't be put off by him not turning out for us, it's just that we are having an exceptional season ( for us) and the tinkerman is reluctant to tinker....i have no doubts at all that if the loan goes through you will gain a good solid cb who knows his craft and will more than do his fair share to stop the leaks at the back. Remember! You don't have to pull up any trees in your first season back just gain 1 more point than you need to stay out that bottom three ( personally i hope you do) good luck for the rest of the season and if he comes just give him a chance, he won't let you down. Tazzyboy

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    kevin williams

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I have experienced being part of an English ethnic minority among numerous Scots so I know where Brew is coming from. Moving on, if we sign another CB (and this guy from Leicester played well at White Hart Lane) then I worry AN will become more confused about selection than he seems to be already. The boss does not give the impression he knows what style he wants to play or even his preferred starting eleven. Then again we were once told he prefers to study the opposition then pick the team (hence Martin was preferred to do a job against Lpool, rather than play Klose who was not up to the job). I do think we have the players who can keep us up but Alex needs to get his head sorted.

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • It pains me to say this but after half a season AN still don't know what his perfered starting Xi is. You can't blame the players for everything. If there making stupid mastakes still? Them I don't think the coaching staff and manager are doing there jobs right. Times running out fast to turn are season around. As for the Leicester CB they all call him panick alot. Down here in Leicester where on based. He won't fix are problems. I have a bad feeling it's deeper down.

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    Grant Hurst

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Brew - "just an opinion" is the last defence of the indefensible. Simply stating an opinion (even if honestly held) does not make it carry equal weight to a reasoned opinion! When you say he is brusque and opinionated and counterpoint his "egotism" between a "w!mp" (CH) and a "proper man" (PL), it's hard to construe that you meant it "in the nicest possible way". And btw, I don't feel bullied by you. I'm capable of calling BS on some of your posts without having to resort to personal attacks. It's your attempted bullying of others that I find distasteful - and I find it generally detracts from the quality of debate that might otherwise be had on these boards.

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    PutneyCanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • It is alos possible that Ryan Bennett took his non selection badly and that is why he was not on the bench? If so are we down to three available centrebacks again with Ryan doing as Seb did last season?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Like many supporters I am totally at a loss to explain the team selection on Saturday. Through Sunday I clung to the hope that Ryan Bennett was unavailable for personal reasons, which he wished to keep confidential. Monday brought no explanation and as is the way with human beings, a lack of information will prompt us to consider possible explanations for ourselves. The facts are that Alex never really expressed a burning desire to recruit a new centreback in the August window despite releasing four centre backs during his six months in charge. He dropped Ryan Bennett on Saturday and picked Martin despite the absolutely dire season that Martin has had starting with a poor performance in the opening game and getting consistently worse since. So what explanations can we come up with for this strange decision making from a man who always sounds very logical and eloquent in interviews? The first is that he picked Martin as centreback earlier in the season because it was in the best interests of Scotland's Euro qualification. True or false? Who knows? Other hypothesese are that once he has made a judgement he is too arrogant to back down (witness also his refusal to give Lafferty a chance) or that he feels the need to reward Martin's loyalty. Whatever the real reasons behind his selections, two facts stand out: 1. there are many supporters who are bewildered by what looks like sheer stupidity and 2. our premier league place is looking increasingly precarious. I am sure we all want to trust Alex but what is really going on?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • You wouldn't possibly be casting Delia as Lady M now would you?

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    Igno Rance

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Did the extra T really get it thro' at 4th atttempt?!

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Igno; all I've been trying to do is refer to The Bard's Scotttish Play...

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • 3 and out.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Seems it is just a rumour, Uncle Igno. I planted a theatrical reference for your amusement recently. The "screw your courage to the sticking place" one, from The Scottish Play. Break a leg, dear boy! Was that all right apart from the dries?

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • PS Can any one shed any light on the Patrick Bamford Rumour?

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    Igno Rance

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Well Mr. Brewer, you certainly seem to have stirred up a bed of thistles this time. Can I risk the ire of the pro- Caledonian lobby by reiterating that my preference for Mr. Houghton's replacement was Mr. Sherwood (still available I believe) ? One possible explanation for the current malaise could be that Alex doesn't speak Norfolk. After all, we often hear of the dreadful confusion caused by language barriers! Therefore, perhaps the solution is to sign still more Scots. This would provide the added benefit of ensuring that the opposition were unable to understand our on-field communication (such as it is). Just a thought. Another thought that crosses my mind is wouldn't it make for far easier reading if Archie would only allow paragraphs!

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    Igno Rance

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Now we have a new CB, can we just have 4-5 games with Olsson at LB, Seb, Klose or Ryan in the center pairing and Pinto at RB. We looked our most solid with Ryan and Wisdom taking care of the right hand side, then tinkerman felt the need to install Russ again. Im sick of changes that achieve nothing, how can we expect our defence to work as a solid unit when our leader keeps chopping and changing them.

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    Jimhow

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • In my tarmac days I worked with many Scots, Irish and Welshmen. One day we were working by a railway track when the Irishman, looking at a steam train, couldn't figure out why it didn't have a steering wheel. The Welshman accused the Scot of nicking it, and when I tried to explain why it didn't need a steering wheel they all accused me of being an arrogant know all English bas***d.

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    cutty

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • el dingo too subtle for my dim brain, but all's good! Surrey Canary, agreed if he's 1st line rep., and if he's not, why would we want him either? canarytrev, agree about Bennett and Olsson (Klose, when ready although I think Seb has suffered more criticism than he deserves this weekend); but not at all sure about Pinto? IMHO Wisdom is the best RB we've had this season. And I think O'Neil has another match to sit out? Like CityCanary suggests, I don't think we should expect too much from the Spurs game, and not get too despondent (nor reshuffle the selection), if we lose this one. Spurs are the in-form team atm, and have exceptional pace, and no little talent, in every position.

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Problem is, CanaryTrev, do they practice together? Do they know who is playing together ahead of the match? I wonder how much actual practice goes on.

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    Surrey Canary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Damon Howick - 100% agree with you there. Let's just get behind these players and this management and give them our support. I honestly can't understand why there has been so much negativity since Saturday. We proved that we have a lot of quality going forward, I think especially in Mbokani and Naismith. Pinto had a good first game in the prem. Hoolahan seemed to link up with Naismith brilliantly. And we still had good options on the bench such as Odjidja-Ofoe, Mulumbu and Jarvis. I also think it is totally unfair to put Bassong on the same level as Martin. Bassong is so, so much better than him although I have to agree, he wouldn't be in my best CB partnership for Norwich. Absurd that some people are calling for a new manager, the one we have got is doing a great job and I would be very surprised if we go down this season, even if we loose against spurs, who lets not forget, are strong title contenders this season.

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    CityCanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Arrogance is a virtue to the successful and a millstone to lesser mortals.

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    cutty

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Although I'm a big fan of AN, I really hope he plays Pinto, Bennett, Klose and Olson in the back 4 against Spurs. We've got a decent amount of time to get them gelling together on the training pitch before the next game. How many more howlers is RM going to make before AN sees the blinking obvious. Bassong is passed his sell by date as well even though his goal on Saturday was brilliant. Get Tettey back and O'Neil and we might give the 'Lilywhites' a game. Play RM and Bassong and we've got no chance.

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    canarytrev

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • el dingo; I had 3 great years working in Scotland. I quickly learned that "Wee Unglush bairstaarrdd" was a term of endearment. I learned that lemonade should be consumed in large volumes, mixed equally with whisky. The people in the brewery were massively hospitable toward me. I think it's the ones that come down here who are the problem. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • For one who didn't want to say anything, you said quite a bit PutCan! Please don't feel bullied. Why arrogant? I meant it in the nicest possible sense of the word. Cloughie was arrogant. Mourinho is arrogant. Alex seems to have something of an arrogant aura about him. Just an opinion.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • It is truly touching that you are in thrall to your good lady, Expat. I too found the Scotswoman to be even scarier than the ubiquitous, intoxicated, Anglophobic Scotsman. Takes all sorts, eh? Be happy.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Why on earth would Mr Ranieri sanction a loan move for a player who is presumably his first line replacement for his current centre-backs, given their position in the league? It makes no sense whatsoever. It's as nonsensical as if AN sanctioned Bennett going out on loan. Rumour, rumour and damn rumour. AN has a situation in which the club captain is no longer a first choice CB or RB. His signings have made this more apparent. AN's the manager. He has to manage it.

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    Surrey Canary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • To be honest I am never sure what defensive system (if any) we are employing. We seem to change every week and that cannot help. If you have average players the best thing you can do, surely, is retain continuity. That way they know instinctively what are their roles. If we had a team of glacticos we might be able to switch tactics match by match. But we don't have that luxury. To get more out of what we have means coaching and drilling players to a set system. It often looks to me as though nobody knows what, truly, are their roles and where they should be at any one time. I fear this is a big factor in our defensive malaise. While I am loathe to criticise AN and his coaches, on this area I feel there is reason to question their thinking. Time maybe to put away the tactic books, flip charts etc and take a look at the reality? But what do I know?!

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    malaga flier

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Wombat: excellent stuff and I totally agree with you. And it doesn't matter if AN is a Scot, an Albanian or a Klingon - if he somehow keeps us up he will be a hero. He is learning and McNally knew this when he appointed him. Unlike the Hughton relegation season, this time i firmly believe there IS hope - and we should keep AN. btw Am I the only one here who loved my short time working in Scotland, largely because of the people? Generous folks to "foreigners", were the Scots I met in Cumbernauld and Kirkcaldy.

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    el dingo

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Reg, from yesterday: my comment was probably too subtle for its own good. The thing that might give it away for what it was is the "wire brush and Dettol" reference. I'm not really suggesting what I might appear to be suggesting - and certainly not accusing you of anything libellous:-)

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    el dingo

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • malaga flier, I totally agree on this occasion! And your argument is borne out by the two banks of four so successful against Man U, Southampton and Villa. Cyprus Canary, yes of course people are entitled to express their opinions including on AN. I was, partly tongue-in-cheek, continuing my rant about all posters, starting 4 or 5 posts earlier. Please do not take me tooo seriously, I do that enough for both of us :)

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • With you 100% Malaga. The system is the responsibility of the manager and coaching staff and although individual errors have cost us dear this season so have the failings of management. Reg people have expressed doubts about AN at this level and are entitled to that opinion. We all support the team including manager whilst they are in the game but may feel that the future of the club depends on changes of personnel both on and off the field. So AN and playing staff - prove your worth or move over!

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    Cyprus Canary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • While there remains much criticism of individual defender like Bassong and Martin that is only part of the problem. I say again that our defensive issues stem from two main things - firstly a total lack of discipline and organisation from the defence en masse and failure to keep any kind of shape and secondly the lack of support from the midfield and wide men when we are under pressure. Too many of our players appear to think their job is done in one half of the pitch. Even given our lack of quality, a properly organised and disciplined defence would at least hold its shape and in doing so would probably have avoided the farce we saw on Saturday and at Newcastle. Within that I would, again, include the midfield and wide men who should see themselves as part of our defensive structure when we lose the ball. We totally surrendered the middle of the pitch on Saturday having gone 3-1 up and playing some excellent football. All the good work in the second half of the pitch was, however, undone because as a unit we are incapable of any sustained defence. That is in part down to players not doing their jobs properly and in many cases not putting in a shift. But it must also reflect on our coaching. While we may practice defensive roles it clearly does not get drummed into the players that the system (if there indeed be one) must be adhered to on the pitch.

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    malaga flier

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I forgot to mention too many flip-flops. Fans, who one minute are praising AN as the best manager since sliced bread, to the next, sack him for over tinkering with selections. A month ago they were raving about VOO being our season's saviour; now they're merging Naismith into a cross between Captain Marvel and Roy of the Rovers! Granted he led by example in the final third of the field, but a bit premature to make him captain. Especially since that would do nothing to help organise our leaderless defence.

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Thaicanary, you LIKE many others on here??? What bad taste you have :) I don't! Too many ignorant, unreasoned opinions, interspersed with banter, insults and xenophobia:) I guess what I'm really trying to say is please use the odd comma in your rare posts, viz, "I, like many others on here, ..." btw... I'm not sure that it is xenophobic to question why a Scottish manager, who has admitted to discussions with Scotland's manager, drops his best CB in favour of a Scottish fullback? A loyal NCFC player undoubtedly, but RM could NEVER be accused of displaying leadership on the field of play, IMHO.

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Ruddy Hell and thornton, I agree with you both; for Ryan and Gary! Yohan, born in France, of Tunisian parentage, played once for French U21; then completed all necessary forms for Tunisia, whom he's never played for, but twice rejected selection, in the hope of being recalled by France. In practise, said paperwork prevents him ever reverting to France, and his refusals to attend Tunisian call-ups may earn him a club ban. Would be just NCFC's luck to shell out £1m and then have him sitting out a ban.

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Mad Brewer,you really must respond to those requesting you explain why you think Mr Neil "arrogant '. Whilst of course i disagree,is it because,Mr Neil ,who is not an idiot, and must be aware that the vast majority of the paying public believes Ryan Bennett to be far more effective than Mr Martin, just gave an unexplained, reason why Mr Martin was the best man to mark a player, Firmini, of which i confess i know little, without attempting to justify the exclusion of Ryan Bennett, maybe he was correct, as Firmini only scored 2, nevertheless in such moments, some due ,should be given to the the other half of NCFC, the paying public , the need to mitigate their hurt ,and help them understand,poor souls. If not arrogant ,maybe it falls under the more general word ,,hubris.

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    dis dressed

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Mellow Yellow, ref "Bassong, how can a player at his stage of his career be out of position so much??" - probably 1. because he can't rely on his partner when it's RM, 2. because by playing wingbacks without the solid core of Tettey, O'Neil (or Mulumbu) infront of him, he's trying to do 3 jobs. Granted he's slow paced and clumsy, but I don't question his reading of the game, he was on a hiding-to-nothing Saturday. The fact is that during our 9 from 12 Festive Season success Ryan and Seb were developing a good solid understanding, and the team as a whole were defending as a team! They were not to blame for Stoke and Bournemouth, yet AN tears up the only successful CB partnership he has had since joining NCFC. I suspect Ryan and Timm could develop as an even better pairing, and I'm all for having additional cover in this area, but Wombat, how can you say, "Yohan Benalouanes is clearly better than what we have been used to"??? He's only been selected for 4 cup games by Leicester and has a cv full of loan deals! Where is your evidence??? Mad B, no relation to Alan. JB, you get the Sycophant Demerit Badge after that post :)

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    Reg Breeze

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • The fact is, absolutely none of you, nor I, have a clue about football in comparison to Alex Neil and his team. Moreover, do you seriously feel that by writing abuse about certain people online will really help matters? No. Pipe down, get behind the team and manager and let's see where this season can take us. Positivity leads to success, negativity does not.

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    Damon Howick

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I have not rushed into making comments. I like many others on here was so disappointed with outcome of the game on Saturday that I decided to let the dust settle before I said something that I may regret. I go back to comments that I made earlier in the season that I have serious doubts about AN being capable at this level.. He does not have any consistency in his team selection.and I make the point that he is not sure how to use Brady and Olsson and Jarvis. Brady has so much to offer further up the field and drop back and support his full back as required I feel that we cannot have Wes , Nathan, Howson on the field at the same time. These three all capable of making influential contributions when we have the ball but do not track back when required. This to my mind adds pressure when we are defending. Declan Rudd has done ok but that is all. I believe that we need to recruit an experienced keeper. Robert Green would be a good move but wages prohibitive. David Marshall from Cardiff could be a more realistic target. This is the worst Liverpool team that we have seen at Carrow Road for many years and were there for the taking when we were leading 3-1. I say AN get it sorted or suffer the consequence.

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    Thaicanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • JD - I found myself chuckling in agreement to your post, while not fully agreeing with the sentiment of it. I absolutely agree that it's not (or at least shouldn't be) acceptable to spout abuse and then rely on the "banter" defence. Unfortunately, that's MBs MO some (not all) of the time. There was a period in which I exclusively referred to him as Bully Brew for that reason. But just don't rise to it. We're all, apparently, on the same side. And, for what it's worth, I think the "minions" go from the dictionary straight to the thesaurus. What is another word for thesaurus? Synonym dictionary?

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    PutneyCanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I don't want to get involved in the "Scotsgate" that's "Brewing" below...I believe it was a lighthearted reference with no offence meant - but equally, not meaning to offend is not an absolute defence. I have more of an issue (as I have in the past) with Brew's personal attack on Expat at the mere suggestion that he has said something offensive. Brew - in the future, you may consider simply stating that you meant no offensive, rather than becoming offensive...! All that aside, Brew, the bit I don't get is why you now appear to consider AN as arrogant. It's his job to pick the team, so I think it's understandable that he stands by it afterwards (particularly considering what may come from openly criticising players, form etc). So, no agenda, just a simple question: Why do you think him arrogant?

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    PutneyCanary

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • I'm with you expat. The MB flock are gathering around to protect their master. After all he is the one who gets to use the one brain cell for the majority of time. Never mind the xenophobia he spouts because of a wall up north - he actually believes he can say what he likes - if he deems it 'banter'. His underlings then scamper to their dictionaries in an attempt to understand what he is saying in the hope that one day the cell will pass on to them.

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    john doe

    Tuesday, January 26, 2016

  • Jim how, if you are happy to endorse racist comments then so be it. I am more concerned about football and the future of NCFC. I hope AN and new signing SN appreciate your opinion and enjoy your support!

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    Expat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Mb, my wife is a Scot and not impressed with your comments, this is supposed to be a NCFC comment site not an opportunity for sad old people to vent their Nationalistic opinions. If AN has made mistakes it is due to his inexperience not his Nationality and I for one hope he will overcome recent setbacks and go on to secure premiership survival.

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    Expat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Expat, have you had a whimsy bypass? What is Scotish anyway?? If you have a wife she may have died of boredom by now. Btw, I worked in Scotland for several years and I can guarantee they are not of this world, Jimmy. Wombat - being in the Lodge helps Archie's journos. OMG, they need all the sleazy help they can get. Shake hands on it.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • MB is right, to be an Archie journo, any minor qualification will disqualify you. To be sure of getting in, you must demonstrate the ability to cut and paste from any available website, with absolutely no verification. In addition, you must, in all circumstances, be at least 20 minutes behind Sky Sports on any news relating to your local club.

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    Wombat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Back to my earlier comment; if we don't take drastic action now, come next Tuesday, we will get stuffed

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    Wombat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Mb, brusque & opinionated rather harsh considering your your past glowing contributions of AN's abilities don't you think ? Your remark of AN being Scotish also leaves a lot to be desired in this day and age. Football has always been a matter of opinion but Nationality should not enter into sporting debate. I hope all true Norwich City supporters will back the manager and players no matter what their nationality.

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    Expat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • One overlooked factor in our recent dreadful form has been the absence of O'Neil. Without him in the side in recent weeks we have lost 3-0 to Spurs, Man City, Bournemouth, 3-1 to Stoke and shipped 5 on Saturday. With him in the side we conceded around 1 goal a game. As encouraging as our forward play was against Liverpool, without a midfield ballast, any defence would be overrun.

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    Ruddy Hell

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Dee, I suppose Tunisia was a French Protectorate until about 60 years ago. But, what the heII, Archie's journos think Estonia is in the Balkans and Thorpe Hamlet is the centre of the Universe. Thank you, JB. Very kind of you. Now wait for the repercussions! ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • What an excellent piece of journalism. Is this guy a french defender? Or tunisian defender? The report states he his both. Or possibly he may be neither.

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    Dee

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • While I don't think I have seen in the prem such hopeless central defending and even at the pathetic level I played at, I have seen no explanation why Ryan Bennett was not even in the squad - let alone playing - have I missed something?

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    thornton

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Go get him,cant be any worse than what we saw on Saturday!Get Gayle as well,he's hungry and would do better than Redmond who has been awful the last few games.

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    tonyb

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Yes steven naismith at twenty nine is a mature player and better choice of club leader by a country mile Wombat.

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    johnty

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Have to point out as Wombat says clear put the deadwood wood from back line and that includes RM. Why are people falling over backwards to"forgive" him?I find it nauseating and of no purpose other than to delay the inevitable and find better Backs. we've yet to see Kloose and another loan is preferable than just letting the club slide when they should be winning.

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    johnty

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • The leadership on Saturday came from Naismith, which says something about our Captain

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    Wombat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • MB- one word to describe your commentS ..........BRILLIANT

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    JB

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • We have, in Naismith and Mbokani, a usable front line. We have a midfield which can stand against most of the bottom half of the PL. We need a wholesale clearance of our defence. While loyalty and commitment mean a lot, it should not be selection criteria. Taking this guy on loan will be a sensible idea, as he is clearly better than what we have been used to and will be wanting to prove himself. Get Klose up to speed asap. The reality is that if we haven't made significant changes by next Tuesday, we will get stuffed

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    Wombat

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Leadership on the pitch is at the heart of the matter. W!mps like Hughton were scared of it. Egotists like Alex can't abide it. Proper men, like Lambert, welcomed it. I doubt his relationship with Grant Holt was altogether peaceful - but it worked.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Doc, I agree that the players are letting the manager down with incompetence and I also agree that a few aren't premiership standard, but I don't doubt that most are giving their all. I have been criticised for defending Martin on here before, but my point being is that whilst he has had a nightmare I don't doubt his loyalty or commitment to club, manager, fans or cause in general. Like any player who lacks form and consistancy he doses deserve to be dropped. I think this team can perform well if they work as a team, defend like a team and find some leadership on the pitch. (FYI I completely agree about Bassong, how can a player at his stage of his career be out of position so much??)

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    MellowYellow

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • Interesting stuff. Go for it. Then leave Timm on the bench and omit Yohan and Ryan from the squad altogether. Play Martin at left CB and Big Bass at right CB. Bambi returns at RB and Swedish International LB, Olsson, is given a "Free" in order to join Ipswich. Naismith sent out on loan to Exeter, to be nearer his family and Wolfswinkel brought back in triumph from Unreal Bites in exchange for Pinto... I know I'm not alone here - Alex needs to wipe out the recent 4 debacles PDQ. Not by means of choreographed PR platitudes from Paddy et al, but by performances. I still believe The Mekon is a good guy, though not a wee genius, maybe. A tad brusque and opinionated - but he is Scottish. It's in the genes. Or kilts.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, January 25, 2016

  • I read that the result cannot be explained...well there's a whole lot of us who can explain it. Mr Neil has placed his trust in players who have let him down. They will continue to let him down (and us the supporters) because they are not good enough. Mistakes every game of every week mean that quite simply they are not up this standard and we will sink if they are kept in the side. We all knew the team would need to be radically changed when we walked out of Wembley at the end of last season. It wasn't and so no one should be surprised that we are in the hole which has been dug by our woeful defending. Going forward looked promising. Naismith looks as though he will bring many qualities to the squad and already he seems to be a skipper-in-waiting. Let's hope our new CH has the same effect....but we still need another one because Mr. Bassong makes decisions which defy logic (perhaps this is why Mr. Adams was willing to part company with him) and Mr. Martin is not a CB...never has been and never will be. And we still need another striker. The next 7 days will define our chances of staying up. I hope this Leicester CB or someone like him is snapped up. We have been far too slow in the market and far too trusting of our defenders.

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    Doc at the Radar Station

    Monday, January 25, 2016

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