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Ricky van Wolfswinkel winning over the fans at St Etienne

11:29 04 December 2014

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St Etienne's Dutch forward Ricky Van Wolfswinkel celebrates after scoring a goal during the French L1 football match AS Saint-Etienne (ASSE) vs Lyon (OL) on November 30, 2014, at the Geoffroy Guichard Stadium in Saint-Etienne, central France. AFP PHOTO / JEFF PACHOUD (Photo credit should read JEFF PACHOUD/AFP/Getty Images)

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Ricky van Wolfswinkel has taken a major step in winning over some of European football’s most fervent fans as he bids to win a permanent move to St Etienne next summer.

Van Wolfswinkel has scored three goals in his last five outings for Les Verts and his strike, which helped end a 20-year hoodoo against fierce rivals Lyon, has earned the Dutchman hero status among the St Etienne faithful.

French football expert Julien Laurens feels the on-loan Norwich City striker is finally rediscovering his best form after a difficult start in Ligue 1.

“Scoring against Lyon will have done him a lot of good, particularly with the fans,” said Laurens, who is a pundit for BT Sport’s coverage of France’s Ligue 1.

“There is as much hatred between St Etienne and Lyon as there is between Norwich and Ipswich. He was substituted after 73 minutes and left the pitch to a standing ovation. That’s the first time that has happened for him there and the St Etienne fans are particularly hard to please. He will go down in history now as helping to end the curse Lyon had over St Etienne.”

Laurens believes that RvW, who left Carrow Road for St Etienne on loan after an ill-fated spell with the Canaries, hopes to complete a permanent move in the summer.

Laurens added: “It’s a massive club, with a great stadium – they could be playing in the Champions League next season as well. He is not at a small club – he is playing in front of 40,000 fans every other week. It is very attractive to him. From what I’m told he is very happy there. I can see him staying.”

BT Sport broadcasts multiple live matches from France’s Ligue 1 every matchweek, alongside coverage of top European football from Germany’s Bundesliga and Italy’s Serie A together with the Barclays Premier League”

25 comments

  • Strange that, Wac. In cricket I was a prolific middle-order batsman, a spin bowler with a twist, and wicketkeeper. Of course, I had to be a pretty nifty sprinter to combine those roles. As for fielding, just leave it to the long grass.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • TK the bit I disagreed with is that our previous manager could do a decent job elsewhere. In my view he may have got lucky in the past but having seen him destroy everything here, I could not see him succeeding in any job at any level. You are quite right about the error in my post. When I played cricket at school my performances were described as bats like a bowler and bowls like a batsman and our midfield players remind me of that. I couldn't field either by the way.

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    waclor

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • ... Armstrong. Still having trouble with my sticky Rs.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • I agree with Mellow_Yellow and TK. Good to see Mark Armstong`s article keeping this issue in public view - most City fans would like to see a successful financial damage-limitation exercise. After all, as CanaryWest reminds us, Winkel was our Club-record signing. Lest we forget... Time for a debating piece from Archie; "Norwich City:- Graveyard of Ambition". Please discuss.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • If Boca play another BA club the youths you mention often don't even attempt to get in the ground - just kicking off wherever.

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    el dingo

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • Yep, Steely Dan, they call it The English Disease. It may originally have been but we exported it a long time ago. I guess if you want the ultimate in Ultras then Argentina would make some beating! You may have seen the videos on u-Tube? Some of the big clubs have massive groups of unruly youngsters. I guess many don't have jobs nor any worthwhile objectives in life?

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    malaga flier

    Friday, December 5, 2014

  • oh no....Archant forgot to mention he was our club record signing.

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    CanaryWest

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Have not read any comments on this story. First thought was ' they must be easily satisfied'

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Thanks for the info Malaga. I didn't realise the train system had been upgraded to that extent - maybe EU money going in. Also like you I am always surprised by the simmering levels of trouble in those clubs from Northern Europe. Ajax and Feyenoord is well known but many other teams in Netherlands and Belgium have bad elements. Also Lille and Valenciennes in Northern France aren't exactly the best behaved.

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Like you, Steely Dan, I was surprised to hear about the fight between fans of Depor and Atletico. You are quite right in that in general there isn't the same tradition for away fans as there is in the Uk. I think that is historic, based on distances, poor transport links and low wages. However in recent years transport has developed exponentially in Spain and most of the major cities are now liked by a very sophisticated high speed train network. Far in advance of the Uk network. However even now fans don't travel in such numbers of in such large groups. I was surprised when I first started going to CF Malaga to find even Real Madrid and Barca didn't bring many fans with them. Most are locally-based. However recent local derbies, especially with Granada, has seen a big increase in what you might call massed support. In general there is no segregation and we have often sat with fans from other clubs and without the slightest evidence of any animosity. Quite the reverse in fact. You see Malaga fans chatting to away fans, taking their photos for them etc. But there are some hooligan elements. Betis have a number (maybe as it is the blue collar club in Sevilla) while Sevilla fans are much more placid. The only time I saw the English type massed ranks of away fans was when we were in the CL and especially when we played Anderlecht. They were quite unruly and at half time some decided, unwisely, to take on the Spanish riot police! It only lasted 30 seconds!

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Good luck to RVW. .at the right club he's proving he can still do job. Must admit though, he went down in my estimation when I read his interview last week. I can't understand why Hooper gets so much negative feedback..he's scored 2 in his last 100 mins of football..its difficult to score if he's left warming the bench

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    Irish canary

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Waclor, I am not sure what I said that you disagree with, I totally agree with what you have said and that does not contradict anything I stated, except I think you have the attack and defend of midfielders the wrong way around. I was simply saying that RVW was never going to work for us, like you I think most of that was down to the previous manager and his very negative tactics. We still suffer from the lack of decent creative midfield players and I agree, the best defend as well as they support the attack.

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    TrevorKeith

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • I can agree with much that has been written here except TK. It was Hughton who created the negative vibes throughout the club which caused RvW and GH to fail. The other problem we seem to have is not having any premier league or even championship class midfield players. The definition of our midfielders is that when we are being attacked they are attackers and when we are attacking they are defenders. If you think back to when Mike Phelan was playing, he could defend and attack. Most of our midfield players can't do either.

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    waclor

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • WORLDS better striker than garbage like Gary Hooper. Unsurprisingly the board make the wrong call again.

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    jaemae2 .

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • exactly the same as most of the goals in the compilation I saw before he joined City. Fast run onto a low pinpoint pass and hit first touch into the net. He was never going to get that service at City. Good luck and I hope we get some of our money back.

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    SussexYellow

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • RVW was never going to work for us so I am glad he is pleasing his current employers and hope NCFC can recoup most of their outlay. Likewise, I am sure our previous manager could go and do a decent job elsewhere, he too was unable to work at NCFC despite being successful elsewhere. These things happen in all walks of life and all parties involved simply need to move on. I am far more concerned as to why our current crop of strikers have stopped scoring.

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    TrevorKeith

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Agree with you Malaga ,Ligue 1 is more skillful but not as physical as our overblown PL. Was surprised to read of the death of the Deportivo fan at Atletico Madrid. Not exactly a local derby. What is going on ? I always thought that Spanish fans hardly attended away matches. Yet they were brawling in the streets before 9 o'clock in the morning.

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Agree 100% with malaga... it's an old and familiar story, alas. Something is well and truly rotten in the state of Carra.

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    wallybrain

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Oh and by the way, I have watched French football from time to time and can say Ligue 1 is a high standard. Maybe not quite Prem League all the way down but certainly every bit as good as the Championship. I used to go to Nantes quite often .

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • I am not surprised RvW is doing well at St Etienne. Players leaving Norwich almost always appear to bloom away from Carrow Road. RvW criticised the training methods at Norwich . He has a point because not only do players leave and improve but those coming in tend to fall way below their best shortly after arriving here. Grab is just the latest. I suspect it is not just the training methods but also the way our teams are set up these days, seemingly taking little account of which is their standing foot and which their swinger! Players out of position has become something of a norm, which must be part and parcel of our problems, leading to disjointed and clumsy performances.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • The whole RVW saga is a chapter that is well and truly closed in my view. It didn't work for him here, therefore if he wants to stay at St. Etienne then its a great opportunity for McNally to get our money back and some.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • it either shows how tough the premier league is or it shows how badly used he was. For me, I actually preferred him to Elmander. He was the panic buy, brought in to get the attack communicating with the midfield and he is the one that for me failed dismally. Ironically, Wolfy and Bony would have been a great strikeforce! Yet again we didn't show enough ambition and it cost us ultimately. Even someone lower budget like Cameron Jerome or Mame Diouf last season would have made the difference.

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    Jimmy Smith

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Bookface

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • Well done RvW and Lesley Verts, I have to say I'm pleased for him and glad he's proving the old adage, "form is temporary, class is permanent" ........... BTW does Archie have a sponsorship deal with BT Sport?

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

  • what can i say...? goes to show that we probably weren't playing him correctly... like our current strike force. what's going on Norwich...?

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Thursday, December 4, 2014

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