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Angry Neil Adams blasts Norwich City’s ill-discipline in Nottingham Forest loss

18:10 08 November 2014

Norwich City keeper John Ruddy is beaten by Michail Antono

Norwich City keeper John Ruddy is beaten by Michail Antono's stoppage time winner in Nottingham Forest's 2-1 Championship win. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

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Neil Adams labelled Norwich City’s defensive charity as ‘unacceptable’ after watching Nottingham Forest hit back late to stun the Canaries in a 2-1 Championship defeat at the City Ground.

Britt Assombalonga cancelled out Jonny Howson’s first half opener in the 85th minute before Michail Antonio’s stoppage time winner which came direct from a Norwich corner.

Adams’ side have now won only two of their last 10 league games to slip into mid-table ahead of the latest international break and the City chief is sick of the same sorry script.

“It’s ill-discipline if you like,” he said. “From our corner kick we should not concede, simple as that. The set plays are there. The players know where they should be, who they should be tracking and the ball gets switched from right to left to right and they score. That shouldn’t happen, that isn’t good enough. Yeah, we are looking to win the game but they shouldn’t score the goal they did. Irrespective of how well we feel we have played it counts for nothing.

“On the first goal, perhaps that wasn’t as easy to clear as the one at Middlesbrough but just stick it somewhere and it doesn’t happen and then they score and you feel we are going to be robbed of two points. To concede right at the death in injury time when the ball has travelled 120 yards or whatever it is, is not acceptable.”

City’s late two-goal concession wrecked Norwich’s bid to bounce back from a 4-0 midweek loss at Middlesbrough.

“To produce a performance like we did and go home empty-handed is obviously a sickening feeling,” said Adams. “To play like we did for 85 minutes if the whistle gets blown then we go home saying, ‘perfect response, perfect reaction,’ and all those positives from the performance but ultimately none of that counts because of the result and to lose the points in the manner we did.”

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114 comments

  • plenty of prem squad players to get on loan if only for a month!

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    tonyb

    Monday, November 10, 2014

  • A good workman should not blame his tools,he picked the team and the formation they played,NA is at fault

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    canarykid

    Monday, November 10, 2014

  • I saw two live games on Sat.Derby County v Wolves, followed by Norwich v Notts F. Norwich are way below Derby's level of performance. Neil I am afraid is kidding himself about Norwich's performance in the game.Yes they had plenty of possession ,but Neil you need penetration and when that happened no player could finish!!! When you buy strikers surely you check their scoring record over several seasons? You have a player on your books whose record was excellent until he arrived at Norwich!!! The treatment Hooper has had at Norwich is appalling.Last season he got bit parts and spent most of his time watching a player[the Wolf] miles below his own ability, no wonder that he maybe disillusioned!! Now this season again,he is not given a prolonged run!! Forgive me Neil but is he being sold in the Jan window? Consequently you cannot use him. If not then your job is on the line and there is a striker who could help to save you. Finally the defence is a major worry.The writing was on the wall way before the Forest equaliser.There is no pace, so any team like Forest attacking at speed quickly overwhelms them . A lot of money has been spent on players not up to the task. Since Lambert no one has taken on those at the top who hold the purse strings!! Buying cheap or free rarely succeeds.Norwich have had plenty of money but wasted it.I would love to know the stories behind the big signings!!!

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    AGT

    Monday, November 10, 2014

  • they are never going to allow this so called manager lose with any cash in january are they.?

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    bluelight

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Mad Brewer... please explain the "supporters puppy like adulation" aspect, have i misunderstood as i am a simple Norwich boy and im intrigued im not knocking! albeit i might disagree

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    OhhhhHuckerrrrby

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • What's the point in saying we need a goalscoring midfielder in on loan.Of course we do but if there was one about he would be playing for his club and not surplus to requirements.And why is it that players not in the team are always deemed to be better than the ones who are in the team. Certainly can't argue with the point that if we keep present form up for the rest of the season we will be relegated.

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    buckeee0

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • I've become jaded once again when looking at Norwich City score lines. It's a feeling that I've returned to after the Hughton era when a point was pleasing. So here's to a mid- table finish... Unless... Unless we can make it count. I'd like Neil to prove everyone wrong.

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Personally I am fed up with the so called big and strong squad theory. The simple fact of the matter is we are average, but with good leadership this average team can go places, but in NA we wont. Yesterday the first 15 mins we were not at the races, but got the goal and should have pushed on. NA played as a winger, so why does he not play wingers, O neil and Grabban playing wide, cannot understand his thinking in this and the releasing of two wingers within the last week. Have read many posts on here regarding NA and his appointment and have always said it was the cheap option myself, but Mcinally has to shoulder a lot of the blame, he sat on his hands while Hughton was dismantling our fine club and hes doing it again. Look further than just the manager. Just have to add a thanks to the so called Forest fans in their cars who tooted and and gave us strange hand signals assuming they were waves, they were clearly not going to the match, if they had they might have filled their ground. Ps Cuellar was a breath of fresh air in defence, a twinkle of light on an otherwise dark day.

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    Bald Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • NB, if you have gone back to 1902 to work out total managers that's an average of 2.87 years in the job. Sounds quite average to me and right now I bet Neil would settle for it. Lack of achievements and unknown on the world stage, sure, plus most clubs in the league. Don't agree on the fleeting PL visits. Over half our seasons since '72 have been in top flight (see my earlier post). And don't forget we have our international stars on duty for the next week or two when we can see how well they perform under other managers. Whitaker will be in particulalrly fine fettle for the Scots having been rested for Forest. TK, as regards advisor to NA, I believe Royle was critical in that respect. Adams claims they still communicate but I doubt if it is the same as when JR was employed by the club. Hoddle comes to mind but not many others apart from Pulis who of course would want the main job. In which case NA could go back to the youths.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Hot off the press, just for Wivenhoe!! If you `Peru`se your Internet, you`ll discover that S. Fry is presently trying to recruit a new manager in Machu Picchu. Andes probably got other issues on his agenda. Such fun. INCA.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Don't think the board would touch pulis with a barge pole.Only other candidate I can think of would be steve Clarke,any better?Has more experience and might be worth a punt at this level.The board missed their chance in the summer of appointing a decent manager so they would not want to sack NA as that would prove that once again they have chosen wrongly.If by xmas we are still mid table and well behind then they might have to act,but then it would probably be too late.What NA needs to do now is get a couple of players on loan to freshen up the team,a goal scoring midfielder and if Hoopers still out of favour then a striker,and bring lil Benno back from Brighton!

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    tonyb

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • ... and I so agree with goldie and TK.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Maybe the Board folk are disdainful of we poor, simple Norwich supporters. Aided and abetted by the poorer, simpler Happy Clapperers (who seem to be in short supply after their recent Group Realism Therapy). The Board:- Does S. Fry GAF really? Boycie Phillips? Hyacinth? I think Delia & Michael have done well overall, Mr. `Fowlger` is not a bad old boy, and Machianalli does well considering the poverty of his salary. The players earn, sorry, get loadsa money and a great sick-pay scheme. The fans? They queue up to offer their money and puppy-like adulation. It`s daft, isn`t it, really? For grown-ups, anyway. init.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Don't blame Adams, how can you take a man who has only won a cup with boys who only play a few games here and there and expect him to be able to handle professional footballers in the Premiership and Championship. Too many steps too far. The blame lies with the CEO and Board to even expect a man with that background to be able to sustain the pressure of football in those leagues. As no one of any consequence will read or take any notice of these posts the only way will be to attend the next home game with placards and demonstrate at the directors entrance that they are letting the fans down again. The club is swimming in money and has a fantastic fan base which is being treated as a cash cow and the directors seem to have no pride in their club.

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    goldie

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • ac.cording to the board we scoured EUROPE and came up with NA. can they afford a ticket to Rio and scour South America. its just a thought

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • NB, I guess it is a case of how you measure the size of a football club. Do we take the home attendance and bank balance into account, if so, I would suggest that we are probably well into the top 20 clubs in England right now. Alternatively, do we take the amount of debt clubs are able run up based on the fact that they have a billionaire overseas owner acting as a guarantee. Given our income right now, we should amongst the top three in the championship, however, this is rightly a sport where actually results on the park decides who will finish where each season. Managers are very well paid for positive results so if they fail then they expect to lose their job. Neil is no doubt a fine fellow and a past supporter of our club, however, how long do you suggest we stick with him.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Is Adams soon to be the next manager to be sacked by Norwich? An incredible 39 full time managers to date, this is a very sad indictment on a club, who when they fail to achieve, simply resort to sacking their manager. Why are they under achievers? Well, it's simply because they have always been unrealistic about what they HOPE to achieve. The board needs to come down to earth and be honest with the fans in admitting just who NCFC is. Hardly surprising, they are not well known in the world of football, due to their lack of major achievement. In other words, they have never been able to make their mark in major tournaments. Their biggest achievement, is one or two fleeting visits to the Premier league, where they have had to be content with being labeled 'also rans', just making up the numbers. Being there is one thing, competing there is another. When the board becomes honest with themselves and their fans, and admit that this is a small club who frequently chase things that are far too big for them, then everyone will be much happier. Adams should not become the next casualty of an unrealistic board, the club is lucky to have him.

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    NB

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Interesting statistic that we have only spent 22% of the time that Delia has been in control in the PL. her dithering and ignorance of football is mainly to blame for our demise. She really is past her sell-by date. And to McNally I would say this. Your new structure for football management at the club seems to be rather lightweight. Where is the experienced hand on the tiller who you were supposed to be appointing to help what has turned out to be a naive, tactically unaware manager who only seems capable of making himself look stupid with pre-match promises and post-match garbage. Anyone could see that after half-time we needed to adapt, yet he brings on the liability that is Lafferty and leaves on the liability that is Johnson. After Forest's first dangerous break away from our corner why didn't he learn the lesson and leave defenders back which would have helped when they did it again a few minutes later. Now that you have made yourself the man responsible for leading the football management committee, you need to act fast, otherwise we'll be in another relegation battle. Derby are showing this league how to win matches - with swashbuckling attacking football and players that attack quickly and in numbers. Take decisive action and don't sit on your hands like you did last season.

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    jigs69

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Lincs, I would be happy to have any experienced and unemployed football man brought in as a director of Football right now in the hope that somebody can stop the slide to the first division. I would not have chosen NA in the summer but the board decided to go with him therefore I am happy if they stick with him for the time being but his lack of experience and nous are starting to show and something needs to change. The other alternative is to turn to one of our old managers such as Ken Brown or Dave Stringer as they both have experience but perhaps they have been out of the game too long.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • the lack of exuberance I also concur with (made the point of being there in vain hope of not being shot down for having an opinion as happens often here!!) we do play passing football but sometimes it is just pass for pass sake...... to me to you to me and we don't even have the chuckle brothers playing for us which is why it was crying out for a Redmond type direct and pacey to mix up the tippy tappy passes much like Mr Antonio for N Forest who erm scored the winner

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    OhhhhHuckerrrrby

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Pulis is available. Can't see what Malky would bring to the show. Has he been investigated? Some of the texts he allegedly sent go far beyond "silly banter" TK. Not saying he should not work again but let someone else have him. Still want to know, does Neil have a brief (top six at Xmas? baguio?).

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • It has recently become clear that NCFC are not in the midst of a temporary blip, something I did not expect at the start of the season. For the first nine games of this season we did pretty well as we were scoring goals, winning games and generally playing quite well, taking 20 points from 27. For the next eight games we slumped badly and the majority of results were either defeats or draws and we gained 6 points from 24 possible. Something clearly happened at this point that changed things and the fact that it has persisted for 8 games would by and large rule out a temporary blip. During the 8 games Grabban has lost goalscoring form but Jerome has maintained a reasonable goal scoring rate which has resulted in the former being left out on a couple of occasions. During this time the rest of the team have performed reasonably well with the exception of John Ruddy who has not been at his best lately. This leaves me to conclude that the teams M.O. has changed and we have become an Ar....nalesque type side who now attempt to make too many short, difficult passes and often attempt to walk the ball into the goal. Where have the BJ, AT and CJ shots from distance gone from our early season spell?? As for those calling for NA's head I think you should stop and consider what you are likely to achieve by such a predictable knee jerk reaction. NA will turn it around and yes, perhaps his experience level means it may take a bit longer. Much better this than the months of turmoil that will ensue bringing in a new manager without any guarantee of success.

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    NICEONE

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • I agree with Brewer's comment about a lack of exuberance in the team. This seems to be the mark of teams that are succeeding. They really want to win and people are queuing up to take on the the attack.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • gerome,howson redmond,josh murphy,tettey a fit hoolahan-the rest are not good enough.

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    harry mcardle

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • All you seem to getting on here is sack the manager, why? who are you going to replace him with? another sacked manager, that's all there is out there. If they were that good they would not be sacked,

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    Derek McDonald

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Given that the board are always slow to react when the writing is on the wall, I see little chance of a change in management right now. However, perhaps there is a place for a director of football and I would suggest Malky would fit that bill right now as he has the necessary experience to get out of this league. I for one can excuse his silly banter mistakes and think he has served his punishment time out.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Time for Adams to stand down and let an experienced manager who knows what hes doing take over from here. At this rate we are heading for league one again.

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    Henry

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Would still like to hear from baguio about his earlier comment that NA's contract kicks in at Xmas if we're not in top six. Does Neil, like Hughton, have a brief? RSVP baguio\ anyone?

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • OhhhhHuckerrrrby, encouraging to hear your good report on Cuellar. Hopefully, he`s convinced Neil, and we`ll at least get away from the ineffectual combination of Bambi (played anywhere) & Russ (played out of position). Also judging from what you say (after all, you were there!) maybe Olsson is due a rest. Garrido has almost disappeared off the radar, after being a near-permanent fixture in Chrissy`s first season. I`ve said it on another board, and I know I`m only judging by TV highlights, but other teams seem to display so much more raw EXUBERANCE than our lot - maybe other than Wolves yesterday. Sorry to SHOUT. Can`t do italics or bold on these boards. OTBC. (But I`m worried now whether INIT, or even the less emphatic init, still apply).

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Stay positive chaps. At least Ipswich are doing a great job of representing East Anglian football and surely that makes it better for you...Will see you in February !

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    john naunton

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • I have just watched the goals from yesterday and once again have to say that the right back did not cover himself in glory. Yes Turner, still playing the wrong side at left Centre back made an error dealing with a long punt upfield from Forrest. He tried to head the ball out into touch but failed. However, Olsson plus a midfielder were on hand and all the Forrest attacker could do was put a cross in. There were two forrest players unmaked in or around the six yard box whilst our captain and a midfielder marked space. It is possible that the Forest striker would have scored anyway but had he been tightly marked then it would surely have been more difficult. Again for the second breakaway goal, none of our team tried to get close to the advancing opposition and the scorer was given acres of space. Yes it probably was the left backs man to mark but when the chips are down all players have to do a job. Olsson has not looked fully fit this season and I suspect is still carrying an injury, perhaps it is time to let Garrido have a run out but most matches the left back has been the only half decent defender. I thought Grabban did ok with the little service he got but the one thing that seems clear is that he and Jerome cannot play together and it baffles me as to why NA returned to that partnership yesterday. I would start with Jerome as he is the player on form right now but think a 4,5,1 offers a much better set up for us right now. I think Redmond needs to learn to help the defender out more and cannot help but wonder if Josh would be more useful on the right wing. Redmond however, might turn out to be a better man in the hole than Howson if given the chance A as his speed would trouble a lot of centre back.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • …..Well Neil it really must be 'Back to Basics'!....Defenders, DEFEND!...Forwards ATTACK!..Cut out this overlapping Full Backs lark and make them DEFEND! ...That's their job from now on! ...I know that most of these men were Hughton signings and to a large extent you have had to live with that1...but they are not earning their keep again....Give those young lads of yours a go!...One thing is for certain 'they can hardly do worse'!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • More like hughton by the day...Long hard season with this defence and he keeps the under performers in..wonder how many times Grabban was offside this season...very worrying when the bench is stronger than the team put out..why wont he play Hooper? Why does he refuse to drop Martin.

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    AC Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • TK I can fully understand you were screaming for redmond or murphy to come on those views were echoed at the ground there were acres to exploit as Forest pushed forward a pacey winger would have had a field day the change they made had Lansbury as left wing back!!... I appreciate you then need a decent delivery and someone to finish it but it would have been better with the ball in their final third than us back pedalling and conceding corner after corner waiting for the inevitable, and as for their winner Olson misjudged their clearance not for the first time either!! Grabban and Jerome worked hard but often had to go wide themselves and as a result had little to aim for in the box as midfield were slow to join and finally yes Carlos looked very solid my man of match for us

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    OhhhhHuckerrrrby

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Mr Adams, blasting your own players is necessary from time to time. However, the recent slide is the result of more than one game. Perhaps it is time to look closer to home Mr Adams and remember that you have the ultimate responsibility for the team, tactics., etc. The buck stops with you.

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    stormy

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • TK; I think Malky`s real crime was to fall out with the somewhat odd owner of Cardiff, who has since wreaked his revenge in a most spiteful and Tan-genital way. Ruining a fellow`s reputation & career over a few non-PC jests, foolishly posted on a mobile phone or something. Some of these jests may, of course, have been about the Malaysian Megalomaniac himself? Hell hath no fury like an ego-freak scorned. We must all be careful what we post. There could be a knock on the door in the middle of the night. Big Brother is watching us all. Well, not quite all. There probably are a few folk safe from Cyber-surveillance; Royal Family, Pope, Hyacinth...

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Having not gone to the game or yet seen the goals conceded it is difficult to make a clear statement on what went wrong. Canarysmitthy seems to make some very valid points however. I just listened to the radio yesterday and was firstly pleased to hear that we had made a defensive change, reports suggest that the centre back pairing looked better Cuellar had a good game. The problem for me however, was the midfield four chosen to play a diamond formation and the return to two up front as they have never worked as a partnership. I would certainly have changed to a 4,5,1 possibly as soon as half time, but was screaming at the radio saying for god sake introduce either Murphy or Redmond with at least 15 minutes to go so that we gave their defence something to worry about. To get caught out time and time again from our own corners is very worrying and shows a lack of fitness I suspect, as we are always unable to get players back. Given the time on the clock, surely NA should have kept defenders back from the corner to at least protect what we had, one point was better than none given our recent poor results. Finally, I wonder if the board were thinking of appointing McKay before the revelations broke out. For me that was a lot of hot air about very little and I would certainly think seriously about considering him for the top job right now as he has experience in getting teams out of this league. Failing that, why not appoint him as director of football so he can advise NA.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • If we are to change manager, providing it is for someone better, then lets do it now to give them a good chunk of the season to do something. For me, it's still our midfield that's our biggest problem. Johnson and Tettey are great at breaking up play, but they never seem to be able to control the game when we are in possession. To many times the ball fly's from defence towards (not actually to) strikers without any build up or decent enough created chances. We had acres of space in midfield yesterday, but neither team seemed able to dominate it and for me what won it for Forrest was there subs. The last ten mins we we're blowing, and for the second goal we had no shape or midfield. Their is a strange feeling of Hughton about all this

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    MellowYellow

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • The advantages cited for Neil Adams was his progressive football and willingness to make changes..... well yesterday (and i was there) we played with 4 central midfielders and therefore no natural width JohnsonHowsonOneil were all willing at times but they are not blessed with pace which left us playing nicey nicey tip tap football without really carving too many chances out and in the second half we simply tried to contain Forest and the changes they made. They took their LB off and we still did not add pace i.e Redmond or Murphy to peg them back and slow there attacking intent........ next few games very interesting even our patient board must be getting twitchy

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    OhhhhHuckerrrrby

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • ...and finally (PROMISE!). Our Managers and Captains must now be cut in the mould of people who won`t displease Chairperson Hyacinth. Polite. Infinitely patient. Deferential. Subservient, even. It is just not on for troublesome types to disturb the tranquility so greatly desired by this great leader of men. This guy eased out Lambo & Holty (too impatient & too old respectively). Just stay patient, Neil; you`ll be fine. Russell - get a portrait done, Dorian Gray fashion. Your job will be safe for ages - but not for ever.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • ... `is`, even. At least a good blasting beats the usual ruebarb from Adams the Adamant. Though I can`t help wondering whether a blasting from Nice Neil is akin to Denis Healey`s sideswipe aimed at Geoffrey `the Gentle` Howe:- "like being mauled by a dead sheep". Such fun. Not :-(

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • I count only 6\66 Trollposts so far. That`s the Devil of a statistic. Only 9.090909... %. Watching Football league show and I saw something in most Champ teams that I don`t really detect in our squad. Exuberance. Devilment even. We need a proper, inspirational Captain in the Grant Holt mould. Calling our lot lacklustre in an insult to... lacklustre folk everywhere.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • That is it kenfoggo - we now seem to be facing the same scenario as last season: a bright start followed by an uncontrolled slide. Again I have to say this is not a blip as some of the players and management seem to believe: it is the result of our obvious all-round failings - lack of pace in delivery leading to poor service to the front men, lack of decent crosses from the flanks, poor finishing and last but certainly not least dreadful defending which seems destined to enable us to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory more often than not. The problem stems from Board level - they set out their clear intention to bounce straight back to the PL and then appoint a rookie manager who is then having to cope with a learning curve while trying to convert the expectations that had been built up. The realistic expectations given this situation is for us to be in a period of transition. Sadly the Board decided to ramp up these expectations from the start while failing to put in place the key man to help carry out that job - i.e. an experienced manager. It didn't help that Joe Royle chose to leave us virtually before he had arrived, leaving Adams without the experienced mentor he badly needs. As for the squad, well I think again the club and media had over-hyped the all-round quality. That was proven at Shrewsbury and was evident in the past as well in embarrassing defeats to the likes of MK Dons and, worse, Luton Town. I am now worried that last season's collapse may be in the process of being repeated now, with potential ly dire consequences. Hate to be a harbinger of doom but at present that is the way, logically, it appears to be heading.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • When Neil Lennon resigned from Celtic in the summer, I felt sure he was coming here. I was very disappointed when Adams was appointed on the same day, but thought - oh well it worked for Swansea as their boss had no experience either. Unfortunately it's not working, after a positive start. Lennon seems to be doing well at Bolton on limited resources. Wonder if he'd see us as a step up given our squad and finances?

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    Double D

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • The Board of Directors at NCFC, need to be reminded that their indecision cost our great football club it's Premier League status last year. Act now and begin the search for an experienced tactical manager!

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    Timbo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Unfortunately we now have to suffer a fortnight of blustering rubbish from Manager and Players in the press. Neil Adams is so deep in the brown stuff that he gargles every time he breathes in ; I would be happy if he said less or even nothing to the press in the next two weeks and expelled all his energy into putting right the inadequacies of the team and the way they play. IF he can (I have doubts).

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Welcome to ASK NEIL..... Neil why does our team of Galácticos fail to deliver...dunno...Neil why do we have so much possession and fail to turn it into a win.....dunno... Neil why do we have so many shots on goal but fail to hit the target..dunno..Neil why do we have so many corners but fail to get on the end of them..dunno.. Neil why do the opposition stand a better chance of scoring from our corners then us ..dunno... Neil why do you play players out of position..dunno.. Neil why do you fail to read the game tactically as it progresses..dunno.. Thanks for that, it was very helpful.

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    Lobbo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • @Monkeys Thumbs, I wish someone would put LG out of my site. The guy couldn't score in a brothel with a bag of diamonds in his top pocket so why oh why does NA keep on playing the fool. The Dog and Duck wouldn't even put him in their starting eleven on a Sunday morning. If I was Hooper I would be asking for a move that's for sure. He's far far better and barely gets a look in. You're insulting the fans Neil. I was blasting you when I heard the team so don't try blaming the players. It's a requirement of football that to win the game requires you to score goals so why play a striker who cannot do that? IAWDNT.

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    baguio

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Are we expecting too much? No! I do not think so. A squad of players should be able to put in a 95 minute shift at home or away. Have a look back 10 months at comments made on these pages by the same supporters and you will see a shocking similarity from the Hughton era. We have learnt nothing, only the expectation of constant disappointment.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • re post......."Come on Mr Adams, just look the TV camera straight in the middle and say "I don't know what else to do", you know you'll feel better for it. Go on, do it."

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    Lobbo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • When promoted from the Champ under Lambert our points haul after the same number of games was identical so all hope is not lost. From this point of the season however Lamberts team only lost 3 more games, became the leagues top scorers but had the worst goals against of the top six. Effectively he did what NA is supposed to be doing, playing positive football and winning. The stark contrast is the ascendant mood cast by Lambert compared to what we have now. In fact the Lambert era of positivity was in contrast to much of what has gone on since this board took over. I know it jars with some but Lambert was the lucky exception to a string of poor managerial choices and the signs are not good with NA. Delia and Michael are on record as being open to offers but that was some time ago. If they are staying then what is the plan because the route back to Div One beckons right now. PS to baguio, can you elaborate on that NA,s contract kicking in at Xmas thingy. Are you telling us he has a brief?

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Neil Adams- "Blah, Blah, BLAH !" It is all just words and guff and bluster from a man who is so deep in the brown stuff that he gargles every time he breathes in.This Manager is devoid of tactical and motivational skills. But, seriously, what were we expecting? He is a youth team coach elevated to a position beyond his experience or ability! Of course we all wish him well and he can talk a good game (as a radio pundit should be able to) but the only talk that counts is that on the pitch for 90 minutes in a game, and here Neil Adams is out of his depth and floundering.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • No disrespect to Neil Adams but I think he was put in a very hard place when appointed. Not only a rookie manager but he also lost the services of the experienced Joe Royle weeks after agreeing to join us. At the same time the Board made it clear they were counting on an immediate return to the PL. So the expectations from the start were probably unrealistic given that Adams was left to learn his trade at a high level without Royle to guide him. Having appointed a rookie the sensible and logical thing would have been to lower expectation levels and looking to stabilise a club which had fallen apart on the field last season with little or no resistance. I am also not sure all the hype about us having the best squad in the CL was justified and as things are now panning out that looks unlikely.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • California Canary, league attendances don't keep you in the Premier League, points do

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    Derek McDonald

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • In the photo above there are 4 city players including Ruddy, how come they did not stop that winner

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    Derek McDonald

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Houston, we have a problem, where's mad b, where are you when we need you. Sorry to much cava...Everything will be clear in the morning.

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    Major tom

    Sunday, November 9, 2014

  • Alan Mason - I will wake up as always with a smile on my face! I'm lucky like that. I am making a guess about Townman's life but I expect to be right!

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    JohnnyH

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Totally predictable I am afraid. It is now as clear as can be that we are simply nowhere near a promotion team. What is worrying is that we appear to be on a slide similar to last season, which had an air of inevitability about it. Let's be clear, this is not a blip in form. It is the predictable outcome of our style of play.

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    malaga flier

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Agree with many of the posts on here tonight. Now is put up or shut up for the board who created this situation through their gross incompetence. The ill fated NA experiment has failed. Appoint a proper manager now or accept mid table at best this season. Are the board serious in wanting to get promoted this season? They handicapped us by appointing a novice manager now they need to learn from last year and act before it is too late.

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    suffolkcanary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Paul Smith,Liverpool Canary , spot on

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    Major tom

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • JohnnyH - at least Townman will wake up with a smile on his face in the morning which is more than you will...

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    Alan Mason

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Norwich born and bred. Live in Derby and couldn't get an away ticket and sat in the Brian clough stand today. first half we were in control against a poor side without threatening more than the score suggested. I said to my forest supporting mate at half time that they would come at us and we would need a half time change. Apparently Adams didn't realise this and left us to continue on daydreaming. He is a good coach but we need a Pulis type in now if we want promotion. Simple.

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    Paul Smith

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Townman - on the brightside we will wake up tomorrow and will not be you. Would anyone swap their life for yours? Doubt it!

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    JohnnyH

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Pulis before it's to late.

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    Major tom

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Stick with NA, he will take the club in the right direction...

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    Alan Mason

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Dubai Canary, realistic is a word that you have chosen to use, but is obviously a word that you fail to know the meaning of. Let me just remind you of the real world, Norwich are getting beat on a regular basis and are slipping down the table. They look less than ordinary, which is basically what they are. Welcome to the real world.

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    NB

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Come on guys. Really unlucky today, complete smash and grab from forest at the end. We controlled the game for 85 mins and LG should have put us out of site. Luckily this league is very forgiving - string a couple of wins together and we'll be back in the game. INIT. OTBC

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    Monkeys Thumbs

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Apparently, Europe was scoured when searching for the ideal candidate . So if Neil Adams does loose his job. I can only assume the scouring will bring us Jeremy Goss or perhaps Dale Gordon as realistic alternatives....

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    pug

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Something is very wrong in the club. Same issues as last season but at at a much lower level. Tend to believe not a lot of new approach or ideas came with NA. If the board are not up to making the necessary changes fast, then they need change also. Felt this way for almost two seasons and the issues haven't changed in that time.

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    MichiganCanary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Depressingly predictable! It is now clear as day that this squad is not anything like as good as it had been hyped up to be and sadly Neil Adams doesn't appear able to see and rectify the weaknesses that are all too apparent to the fans. The Board, having nailed its flag to the mast and declared it wanted a swift return to the PL, then goes and appoints a rookie manager. No disrespect to Neil Adams but he has been placed in an unenviable position of having to learn his trade at FL level on the hoof. It was always a step too far, given the club's expectations - which were fed to the fans, fortified by silly media stuff about us having the best squad in the division. By appointing Neil the club was in fact positioning us for a period of redevelopment, which would have been a logical and realistic level of expectation. So now we actually do face the facts - we are nowhere near being promotion or even play-off material. In fact the present decline has that all too familiar whiff of last season when we went into freefall and couldn't buy a win. Yet we were constantly told all would be well and the next game was always going to see us turn the corner. My fear now is how far this decline will go. The longer it goes on the more difficult it will be to reverse. The league table as ever never lies. It tells us all we need to know and fear

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    malaga flier

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • I have supported City since the cup run of 5960. In these days players wore the shirt with pride and some like Barry Butler and Ron Ashman were "one clubmen". When we lost they felt the pain as much as the supporters. Now they are just overpaid mercenaries who go where the biggest penny is and couldn't care as long as the fat cheque hits their bank account every month. It's only us, the true supporters who really care. Players and managers move on but we are always there through the good times and bad. We are the club not them.

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    Jockey

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Time for a McMouthful

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    Gruff

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • How many times do we have to read similar reasons or excuses for yet another miserable show? Does the manager really have an answer, doesn't look like it! Time to call in Sir Alan Sugar.

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • how many times did each team keep giving the ball away at the start. even id make the team at this rate! forest I think had a chance or few then we decided to play and I thought the passing build was really good leading to howsons goal. thought we were going to give the ball away 0-1! shocked but pleased. was hoping for 0-2 before whistle. second half we came out with our thumbs up our bums and you could see it start to unfold. 0-1up was always a worry. lafferty seems to be could at getting booked or sent off just so he can get home early and crack on with a few beers! Johnson had a poor game AGAIN! how many times did he give the ball away. did like his ninja leap tho when he went up for a header and thought sod it think ill knee the forest player in the head. olssen kept getting the ball but was to scared to try and run past his marker. defence crumbled again. maybe its time to get used to this league for another 10 years. =(

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    NCFC1978

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • our corner, need a pacy player to get back when the opposition have a quick break. One that has the nous to defend , send for Elliot Bennett , no cant some one deemed him surplus to requirements and sent him to Brighton.[oops]

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • The lesson of last season is there's no point in changing the manager too late in the season.Alarming weaknesses are yet to be addressed.

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    Peter Watson

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Either NA cannot get the players to play up to their billing or the players are not playing for NA. The other option could be that they have lost pride in their own performance and really can't be bothered. The last option seems unlikely because they have careers to maintain, so NA is the weak link. How many more of these pitiful displays are we going to see before the board acts. Forget promotion that is no longer an option, we need to prepare for the future. Bring back Josh from Blackpool and give the youngsters their heads, that is after we have replaced NA, he is not up to the job. We need a motivational man manager, not a before the fact headline writer.

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    CrichtonCanary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Well down Townman... Ipswich looking good, but the season ain't over yet. Having said that, I never thought that we 'Budgies' would get automatic promotion. 100 goals? I0 or 20 would be OK at this rate!

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    wallybrain

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Now 1 in 11 and you still pick him and are then surprised that we don't win. Take a hike NA. I have had enough. Sure your contract will kick in at Christmas if we're not in the top six but I can't wait that long! Go now before the fans despise you! OTBC

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    baguio

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • So much for your 100 goals,100 points,walk the league what fools on the bright side we won yet again

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    Townman

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Well the ball is in Mr McNally's court now (having been retrieved from John Ruddy's net), You get to the point if thinking that there is no answer, the club is sliding, and at the moment like a skidding car it will only stop when it stops, whatever team juggling takes place. Maybe we just needed a better driver to not get into the skid in the first place; and the car wasn't as high tech as we all thought it was...

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    Surrey Canary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • On the Ball City was pretty poor before the Bolton kick off and virtually died out. I guess the next one could well reflect the air of despondency around the club at present. I believe Neil said 'there's a way to lose' and I took that to mean giving your all with fight and respect for the fans not abject surrender.

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    59er

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • norfolko - you have to understand that if you come to a Norwich report having a go at City you aren't going to get a warm welcome - and I'm one of the nicer ones here (honest). I'm open to discussions about what you think could help us improve. But if you have just come to mock, it isn't welcome. We can do that by all by ourselves...

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    DeanConeyLegend

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Very interesting reading the above comments. Sadly, I couldn't get an away ticket so I sat right next to the canary fans in the Brian Clough stand. Having been to Middlesbrough and watched a shocking away performance, I expected a response. I thought we looked shaky for the first 10 mins. Forest played with pace and tempo. We got into the game and scored a well worked goal. Did anyone count 15 consecutive passes in their third before Howson did well in the box ? We then didn't really look into much trouble. The forest fans around us were moaning, and saying we were the better side. So, what went wrong in my opinion. Well, they came into it, but we still had chances. Grabban had a great chance. Should have played it back to an on rushing Johnson. He tried to do it himself. Poor shot straight at Darlow. That's a striker playing with no confidence. Then after 70 mins we took Jerome off- why ??? At least he was working hard up front and pressing the ball ? Also, I agree. Redmond should have come on instead. I thought Cueller looked ok and gave us more solidity and stronger aerial presence at the back. Anything was better than Martin playing there and Whittaker at right back. I live in Derby, and do some coaching at Derby County. I watch 1st team training regularly. There is a squad who are organised and play with a really high tempo. Players play in the right positions. Look at Will Hughes- he was a star under Clough, but not under McClaren. The players respect him. It's as if the idolise his coaching when I've observed it. Is Adams the right man ? I want to say 'Yes', but that is with my Norwich heart, not my head. Who do I think.... Well we need 6 points from our next 2 home games. If we don't, we could be 12 behind at the start of Xmas. Would the board consider a change ? Should We bring in a consultant, or is Tony Pulis, Malky or Steve Clarke a better offer ? We beat Bolton, 2 weeks ago.... Look at them under Lennon. 4 wins from 6 games !! Look at Gary Rowett at Birmingham ? The next 2 games are crucial for me in identifying where we go after 20 games .

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    canarysmithy

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Norfolko, although you make a good point it is worth noting that since NCFC first reached the top flight in '72 it has played at that level for almost 52 % of subsequent seasons so expectations of PL football are not entirely misplaced. That figure of 52% however is dragged down because since '96, under our current owners, top flight presence has been a meagre 22% thus giving credence to the notion we should settle for Champ mediocrity. More worryingly, as we continue our slide down both the actual and form tables, the emerging pattern is reminiscent to the one which took us down to Div 1.

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    Lincs Canary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Norfolko is wrong anyway. We are the 14th largest club in England by size (average home attendance) so we ought to be in the Premier League.

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    California Canary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • 'Norwich City boss Neil Adams aims to make sure Stuart Pearce is hurting this time around.... ' OH YEAH?

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    wallybrain

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • A LOAD OF OLD SQUIT.....come on Neil, let's be 'avin you.

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    wallybrain

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • my original comment was just my opinion, i was not being personal about anyone, only came back following your dig at me

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    norfolko

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • norfolko - I think you have missed a division ! Surely you mean 'being realistic on budget and club size you are a mid table Premiere League side'....in which case I agree with you. What is frustrating us REAL Norwich supporters is why we are not top off the Chump picking of the teams around us with ease. Fact of the matter is NA is not getting the best out of the squad and his days are severely numbered if he doesn't turn it around very soon. I'd give him until Christmas - otherwise he will go the way of Oliver Plunkett and others !! OTBC

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    Dubai Canary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • norfolko - Strange that you state others are entitled to an opinion, and then aim a throw away insult at me for stating mine! If you don't like City fans coming back at you, then why post a comment like yours on a City report? What did you expect to happen? Like i said, strange individual.

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    DeanConeyLegend

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • They bottled it yet again as soon as put under pressure. No leadership from the bench or on the field. Hughton era all over again.

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    rob

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Was really gutted about 6 weeks ago when told all tickets for the forest game had gone, now im soo please i didnt have to watch that!!

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    paul ebbage

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Its no good being angry Neil Time and tide has left you,and the time and tide says bow out and let another take the reins

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    Albert Cooper

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • I thought Whittaker RB and R.Martin CB was our issue but apparently not. looks like NA has brought in 3 average CB over the summer. We lack the cutting edge going for and look desperate, Hoolahan is being missed. feeling very disappointed with recent performances, season is being thrown away

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    Asher_m87

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • DeanConey - I am entitled to my opinion, and find the bleating quite amusing, you need to grow up

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    norfolko

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • I don't want change for changes sake but I'm concerned at the lack of reading the game. First half we looked ok. We got the goal and we were in complete control without threatening too much. It was pretty clear that Forest would change something and come at us in the second half. We made no changes and sure enough they made a change, came at us and took over. For my money we should have brought on Redmond at half time to and reorganised to play on the break. But what do I know. I'm just a fan of 50 years standing.

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    dumpcanary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Neil, doesn't matter what you say the negative brigade will stab you anyway at every chance, I thought the goals came from defensive errors by players on the pitch not the coaching staff in the dugout.

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    NoggintheNog

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • More nonsense from Neil Adams. We spent 80 minutes of the game in our own half, we were slow and predictable AGAIN! Watched Derby earlier. They played with pace commitment and flair. Just one of those three qualities from Norwich would be a plus.

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    Bellboy

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Adams isn't up to it. This now proves it. He was bought in on the cheap just like we do everything. Forest have been getting stuffed by everyone including Brentford in the week. They created nothing all afternoon but we hand them the points. It's embarassing. Again, why is hooper not starting? It was around this time last year that we got stuffed 7-0 by Man City and should have got rid of hughton then. But we didn't. We kept him because he was a nice bloke and look what happened. I feel the same thing is going to happen again. Absolutely gutted.

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    Liverpool canary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Been another fantastic Saturday for sure.

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    Heisenberg

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • norfolko - 'I'm not a Canary fan but....' Then why bother to post on here? Why bother to look at a report on the game? What a strange individual you must be! Run along dear boy, nurse has your medication ready. Leave City for the City fans. You go comment on your own club.

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    DeanConeyLegend

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • First half was a significant improvement over Tuesday night. The tempo was high just like it was earlier in the season. Second half we allowed Forest to play to their attacking strength rather than exposing their defensive frailties by going for a killer second early on. The equaliser was always on the cards without an early change. Ultimately naive to let in two goals as we did. So disappointing when we had three points in our grasp. Need max from next three games now. OTBC

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    Silebydave

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Forrest were there for the taking and Norwich failed to complete the job, same as last season really no backbone in this team or management!

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    dave123

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • I'm not a Canary fan but live in the City, and find it very hard to understand Norwich Fans expectations, being realistic on budget and club size you are a mid table Championship side. Stop moaning and support your team and manager, its obvious nobody else wanted the managers job after Houghton, so support Adams.

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    norfolko

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • 1 goal in last 4 away games and Adams blames defensive frailties???

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    CanaryWest

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • We were going well in the league then Adams made 11 changes for a cup match which we lost and we have plummeted since. Coincidence? AGM on 25th November, will the manager speak at that and who will it be? Who was it who said we had the strongest team in the Championship?

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    JohnnyH

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • we were not awful for the whole game,some good stuff but mostly average and then awful last ten.

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    tonyb

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Publicly criticising his own players, sounds like a split in the camp. BTW Bassong looked strong in defence for Watford...OTBC!

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    Warkys_Tash

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Those are worrying words from Neil Adams. He must have seen a different game.

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    Green man

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • One way taxi for Mr. Adams

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    neil

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Come on Neil... enough is enough. You sound as though you're the guest on Canary Call here.YOU ARE THE MANAGER, you need to sort it out and if you can't - and it doesn't look like you have a clue at the moment (with all due respect) - then do the decent thing. You'll be more respected and maintain your well deserved status as a City legend. Don't tarnish it.

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    wallybrain

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • what in gods name ar you talking about NA??? we played awful for the whole game

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    citycanary

    Saturday, November 8, 2014

  • Yeah but yeah but yeah!!!!!

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    Saturday, November 8, 2014

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