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Alex Neil left stunned by Gary O’Neil’s red card in Norwich City’s 3-1 Premier League defeat at Stoke City

22:39 13 January 2016

Gary ONeil was sent off in the first half of Norwich City

Gary ONeil was sent off in the first half of Norwich City's 3-1 Premier League defeat at Stoke City for fouling Ibrahim Afellay. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

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Alex Neil admitted he was stunned by Gary O’Neil’s needless red card in Norwich City’s 3-1 Premier League defeat at Stoke City on Wednesday night.

O’Neil will miss the next three games after a rash first half sending-off for careering through the back of Ibrahim Afellay.

“Listen he knows he has done wrong. Me slating him in public is not going to help that,” said Neil.

“Can I understand what he has done? No, basically. It was just a bad decision. The ball is going out aimlessly near the half-way line. I don’t think there was any sort of flashpoints before that which riled him up and I think I was as surprised as much as anybody else to see that tackle going in.

“There was no defending it. It was certainly a sending-off. Gary has come in and apologised to his team-mates at half-time. For an experienced player, if I was to pick anyone in our squad that wouldn’t do that it would probably be Gary O’Neil. That is completely out of character and for him to make that decision in such an important game for us was silly to say the least.

“Did it cost us the game? Well it didn’t help us in any way, shape or form. Put it that way. It made our task a lot more difficult. Listen he knows he has done wrong. He will miss three games now. It is disappointing for all concerned. It has not helped our cause here and it won’t do to have an experienced player missing for the next three games.”

Neil was in no doubt O’Neil’s rush of blood tipped the game firmly in Stoke’s favour with Jonathan Walters opening the scoring just after half-time. Jonny Howson levelled with a stunning 20-yard strike but Joselu and a Ryan Bennett own goal sealed the Canaries’ fate.

“I felt up to that point it was a relatively even game, and if anything we had shaded it,” said Neil.

“I thought we had a real good chance with Ryan Bennett when Jack Butland went to his left-hand side. We looked threatening, we were pleased with how the game was going and that was a big, big turning point. It was an advantage they took.

“We go the equaliser with a great strike from Jonny Howson and I felt Stoke were getting a bit agitated, you could hear the fans getting a bit frustrated and then we concede the second one in and around our box when we need to apply pressure. From that point onwards it becomes a really tough task.”

 

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26 comments

  • yes, CityCanary, Mbokani was my MOTM too. Howson had a good game overall, but aside from goal, he wasn't as effective over 90 mins. Some voters never look passed goal scorers.

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    Reg Breeze

    Saturday, January 16, 2016

  • Yes Wiv, agreed. I thought that Redmond was so so poor and VOO continues to impress, another assist last night. Can we also agree that Mbokani is showing some great signs? He was definitely my MOM because I though he displayed a lot of skill....if only we could get some decent crosses to him!! COYY

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    CityCanary

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • .....Yes Wiv. .....Sorry to say that Redmond is like a wallflower at a dance...just doesn't fit in!....He needs a very strong manager to sort him out...it's not going to happen here!....Wes on the other hand, is like the hub of a wheel, with everything revolving around him, and can have NO impact coming on late and finding himself half way down a spoke, or out on the rim.....Something Axle cannot or will not see!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • wivenhoebudgie, I don't know about impact sub, Nathan has been equally unimpressive when starting games! Although he has enormous potential, he is: 1. fatigued from summer U21 tournament, 2. too full of his own importance to play for the team, 3. incapable of tackling and 4. fails to read the game. He needs resting on the bench and some firm coaching!

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Lets agree that at Stoke VOO was bringing a lot more to the party than Nathan did, in both defensive and offensive roles. Is it possible that Nathan , like Wes, finds it hard to be an impact sub.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Positives were Odidja who showed signs of quality and Mbokani who is quality with his control and strength making it hard for him to be dispossessed . He needs more support.There were times when he was having to keep the ball away from 2 or 3 Defenders because there was no one close enough to lay it off to and he showed his frustration. It was difficult last night with 10 players but the answer may be to push Odidja up front with him more or less in a second Striker role. Odidja scored goals for his previous Club.

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    irongloves

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Glad to see another poster (Stew Pydsodd) asking what the hell Redmond brings to the team. Been asking this on a regular basis ever since last season. He might impress playing for England U21 but then he is only playing against youngsters. Never improved to any degree since we signed him and when we play one up front, the C.F. is feeding off scraps and a player like Redmond is supposed to provide the service they need. He would not have lasted as long at many Premier clubs because of the way he loses the ball and takes the wrong options, therefore putting the pressure back on a defence that sorely lacks a leader. Must be wingers out there with speed and more ability. I know a C.B. is vital but if we struggle to score then we will not win games.

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    61canarie

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • …..Reg Breeze, I probably am trolling...whatever that means.. as you put it….what else can one do on a dismal day like this!….Remind me please about the two wingers we played under Hughton!...Names were Redmond and Snodgrass I believe!….The first couldn't kick with his left foot so was put on the left wing!”...The second couldn't kick with his right foot so was played on the right...End result was they crowded the middle, and the only space left was for a 50 yard sprint by the full backs!….Can't wonder they couldn't find the energy to defend!….We are repeating this again with different personnel….No one seems to play in their defined position..if they knew what it was...must be the Garry Holt influence….and consequently our entire shape is 'here there and everywhere…..As to your final words about Neil Adams!….I would ask you what your reaction would be if you became aware that your job was being undermined by your employers behind your back!….Axle did not rescue us, he merely built on the foundations that Adams had struggled to get in place in the half season that he was in charge!…..

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • What is it about us and stupid red cards on midweek nights at the Britannia? Oddly enough, before the game I was thinking of Darren Huckerby's moment of glory back in the day. He tries to buy a foul, ref not interested, Hucks uses a three-word expletive, the second word is "cheating" so what did he expect? Stoke 3-0 City, and a cold journey home for fans who had their coach window smashed by some little bastard with a BB gun hiding in the bushes near the roundabout. Happy days. PS. I prefer black shorts. Reminds me of the 1960s when we always wore black because you couldn't get green. Canaries aren't green anyway, as the followers of a mediocre Championship side south of border never tire of pointing out.

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    urban seagull

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • I'm not gonna rise to it.... I'm not gonna rise to it.... I'm not gonna rise to it.... I'm not gonna rise to it.... Oh dammit, I can't stop myself... Stew Pydsodd, I'm almost certain you are just trolling, but here goes anyway. I seem to remember CH consistently playing two wingers, and encouraging overlapping full backs. His primary weakness was a lack of attackdefence balance, leaving us noway back if we went a goal behind, and failing to recognize the match-changing sk!lls of Wes and Grant! NA did ok attack wise, but went gung-ho every game, leading us to slide down the league before AN rescued us.

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • .....AC Canary!....what can you possibly mean by hinting at 'Match Fixing'?.....That could make it two in a row!.....adding to that, the first 2 substitutions made were of no benefit to the team!....in fact took any spirit out of the 8 remaining!....What Redmond brings to the party is sod all....He is going from 'bad to worse' and is now a liability....Wes may not have had his best game, but whilst he was present, WE HAD HOPE!....The game was conceded with his departure!....Stoke with their wide men opened us up at will! ...if only we had ONE decent winger!....Axle with his experience as a low grade mid-fielder cannot see this.. .just as Hughton ..an ex full back.... was also blind to this style of play!....Neil Adams on the other hand, an ex-winger, was fully aware of the advantages! ....He had just got his men into a winning shape, when he was so cruelly relieved of his job....It was a piece of cake for Axle to follow in his footsteps and take all the credit for promotion!.....Bring Neil Adams back, and spot the difference!....But don't leave it too late this time around!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Reg:-) It just gave me the excuse to use the phrase "There's Only One El Dingo". And for a few posters on here, that's more than enough I guess!

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    el dingo

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • What a clown. Any one checking for unusual spot betting re Norwich player being sent off?

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    Jockey

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Of all the games in which to do something like that. If he had done it against a Man City player last Saturday it would still have been a bad challenge and wrong but it would not have affected our league position (although he would still have been suspended). Someone sent a text to Radio Partridge last night pointing out it was his 201st game for Norwich and his first red card for the club. As Alex Neil said last night, O'Neil would be the last player you'd expect to do what he did. At least we haven't got a player like Joey Barton who spends a lot of time in suspension.

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    Suffolk Exile

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • el dingo, my suggestion was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Extraordinary timing tho, 1 minute you suggest he should appear..... I blink and there's his first post in 2 days :)

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • I have a theory that the 3 game ban O'Neil will sit out, he'll be practising on the golf course in a bid to qualify for the Pro Tour . . . . that is his dream after retirement after all . . . . look out, FORE !

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    Ole Tommy Buster Custard

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • A couple of weeks back we all took the p!ss out of Wanyama's two yellow card earning lunges , but this was at least as bad, if not worse. If we'd been two down and being embarrassed then I could just about understand it, but that was not the case. Doubly frustrating, as, up to that point I really believe we'd have got a point; possibly all 3 . But after that we all knew it was curtains, despite Howson's screamer. Of course AN will not lambast O'Neil in public, but I'm pretty sure he'll deal with him strongly behind the scenes. Just have to hope now that Tettey does not get his tenth yellow at Bournemouth, but I would not bet against it.

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    Rick

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Alex Neil is right. O'Neill will know what he's done to the team. What we have to do now is get 3 points on Saturday v Afobe and Grabban!! Big games don't come bigger than this one looking at the table now. Villa and Swansea ( who were awful last night) look certs to drop. Just leaves space for one more!!!

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    Bogaz John

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Reg while you're there mate! I have no alter ego. There's only one El Dingo:-)

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    el dingo

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • There's little point in adding to comments on Gary's mental aberration, but it is only the second red in his career. I thought we looked Stoke's equal until that incident, although I would rather have seen Wisdom at RB; Russel looking poor in defence. I read it slightly different to atlanta canary; I thought we looked weaker after the substitutions? I'm not criticising the decision though, important to save legs for Bournemouth, but Redmond continurd to disappoint and it was the link between Wes and VOO that led to Howson's wonder goal.

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    Reg Breeze

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Possibly the most STUPID challenge I have ever seen.You sir are an idiot.You might be a perfect professional but what the feck what we're you thinking?Enough said reinforcements -yes please dominant central defender and a striker who can score.Easy Peasy Lemon Squeasesy..

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    rikki nadir

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • @AC Canary, if it weren't so obvious, I'd agree. Seeing it over and over again made it even worse. Lucky there's not a double red card (nasty and pointless). Pity as we showed a lot of promise, especially when subs came on. I'm optimistic about Saturday. OTBC

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    atlanta canary

    Thursday, January 14, 2016

  • Match fixing?

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    AC Canary

    Wednesday, January 13, 2016

  • The Premiership is uncompromising and as we are finding out all too often games turn on single incidents and on moments of individual brilliance. Tonight O'Neill's crazy tackle was without doubt the turning point and reminiscent of Whittaker's rush of blood to the head at Southampton. As we don't have sufficient quality across the pitch we rely on stability, hard work and team effort to tip the scales in our favour. Stoke on the other hand had quality up front to win the game. It must concern us that Sunderland had a big win and especially the goals from Defoe, the kind of signing we cannot seem able to acquire for whatever reasons. I am wondering what AN's wish-list is for the transfer window but what our recruitment set-up will be capable of delivering. Sadly their track record does not inspire any confidence and for me has been an achilles heel for far too long and doesn't appear to be showing any signs of improvement.

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, January 13, 2016

  • might have said a rush of blood to the head. but that assumes a thing called a brain was located there!

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    john doe

    Wednesday, January 13, 2016

  • Doh! Must be all those speeding tickets Gary's racking up, got to him. It's too early in this half of the season to say but things are starting to trough again. Why?!!!! For the love of f&@&&£):! Christopher Colombus!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Go_Fleck_Urself

    Wednesday, January 13, 2016

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