Your PinkUn: Have your say on Norwich City, where it all went wrong and what happens next

Where did it all go wrong? Where did it all go wrong?

Sunday, May 11, 2014
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We want your views on what has gone wrong at Norwich City - but more importantly how to put it right.

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All next week we are running a PinkUn fan takeover - asking you the fan to give your views on a number of different subjects involving the club you love.

Everyday we will pose a series of questions on this website, each with a different theme. We want you to take part in the poll and send in your overall views and thoughts.

The results will then be used in a special PinkUn supplement in the EDP and Norwich Evening News next Saturday.

The themes will include:

Where did it all go wrong for the Canaries?

Who should manage Norwich City next season - and why?

Which players should be allowed to leave Carrow Road - and who do you want to sign?

How satisfied are you with your club? If there was one thing you’d change what would it be?

How will Norwich fare in the Championship? And is there anything about next season you are particularly looking forward to?

If you want to answer any of these now please try to keep you responses to under 200 words and either leave them in the comment section below or email Chris.lakey@archant.co.uk

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35 comments

  • The Gunn appointment was slightly different to the Adams one. He promoted himself for the job but was nowhere near good enough. His dismissal was no well handled I agree but he was a terrible manager. He signed Grant Holt but apart from that he really had no idea. It still irritates me that Radio Norfolk wheel him out as an expert summariser. Is that expert as in Bryan Hamilton and Adrian Forbes?

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    suffolkcanary

    Thursday, May 15, 2014

  • I've just read through the comments again and seen a remark against Gunny, well lets get our facts right... when Gunny took over we were doomed, we had team full of On-Loan players, we had endured RODENT, who ripped our club apart (while the board Fiddled) (nothing new there)... and, he was the Cheap option, but he was Man enough to take on the task, in a totally hopeless position, and it was no fault of his that he was at the helm when the boat went down.... and remember it was Bryan Gunn who bought Grant Holt... the way that Bryan was sacked, was an UTTER disgrace, away in the West Country, and he had to make his own way home at his own expense... Bryan Gunn was proudly one of our best players ever, and had a Club named after him at Carrow Road, he was a Norfolk Son, the way he was treated, forced him away from Norfolk, but he held his peace... so never anyone call him a bad Manager, he went ...or dived... into a bog, from which he was never going swim in, if at that dire time in our history you have to blame a Manager, look hard at Nigel Worthington, Glen Rodent and Peter Grant, who the club had faith in like Chris Hughton and burried there heads in the sand, while it was going breasts up

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    OLDYELLA

    Thursday, May 15, 2014

  • It went wrong on the final two games in the 20122013 season, not that we won, but the way we won, it was a complete change and attitude from how we had played all season, CH stood on the touchline, hands in pocket (nothing new there) and looked gobsmacked, we had played 36 games and looked rubbish and doomed, then suddenly, we looked like the old Lambert side, passing, running, nip and tuck, we looked superb, this was against everything that CH had done over 36 games...boaring, defencive, negative, no hope football... it was those two games that put the boards faith in CH..... we started the 201314 season off playing boaring, negative, no hope football.... the board SHOULD have reconized this AND acted... but there is no one on the board who acted, they buried there heads in the sand, and came up for air when it was to late.

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    OLDYELLA

    Thursday, May 15, 2014

  • Wrong strike force....simple as! Should have worried less about goals from a striker and got one to hold up the ball properly and bring others into play. Kenwyn Jones maybe? Don't think Elmander or wolfswinkle held one ball up all season or cause any sort of treat in behind.

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    jamie england

    Wednesday, May 14, 2014

  • For me the alarm bells really started to ring during our away games in the North East. Having pulled a goal back with 10 mins to go against Newcastle, we did absolutely nothing to try to get a point and no substitutions were made until the 89th minute when it was all too late. A month or so later at Sunderland we seemed happy to settle for a 0-0 draw against a very poor team. The game was crying out for quality and we had the firepower on the bench to make a difference but, again, nothing was done. Hughton's timidity was where it all went wrong. Equally, we expected a Board that had been so ruthless with Gunn to act accordingly but nothing happened.

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    jcbncfc

    Wednesday, May 14, 2014

  • Our biggest problem the Board and Manager. I wrote at Christmas saying if your company is losing money and you will be bankrupt by May change things don't hope they will get better, bur we did nothing. On the field a poor midfield Saturday was a good example only Tettey looked good(so he was substituted) Howson poor Johnson cannot pass, they could not construct, where was a ball holder or a play maker. I remwmber earky game Hoolahan makes goal for Hooper then later Hooper makes goal for Hoolahan then they never play together again, no wonder Hoolahan wants out, strikers cannot score if they don't get service. I think Adams sealed his fate with poor team selection and poor subs, Fer class above Johnson and Howson, . At Chelsea should have gone for it Whittaker off and striker winger on. Our other main failing has been late balls into the box Snodgrass, I love him 100% effort but he takes on men and by then they have 6 defenders back he should have been managed to be more direct,we desperately needed early balls into the box and shots, if you shoot enough some get fumbled or deflected >75% of goals are scored in the penalty box. On Saturday I think Hooper got one ball in the box and it was over his head. Next Manager Malky or Lennon with Adams as Assistant. Been a supporter since my first game 3rd Div Sth against Southend about 1948 too late to change

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    TonyfromThailand

    Tuesday, May 13, 2014

  • Where it all went wrong. firstly fell out with P lambert 2 seasons ago. This season, the board fiddled while Rome burned and replaced CH too late. in my opinion if the board had acted earlier WBA would have gone down. who ever is the next manager needs to be sorted quiclky within 10 days so the new manager can sort the comings and goings out and get the players that person wants. Players who I thinks will or should go. Ruddy, Snodgrass, Fer all 3 to good to stay and will be wanted by premier teams. RVW and Bassong can go. Ryan Bennett will be a big player for City next season and him and Turner will be the main stay of the defence. I think keeping Hooper will be the new managers biggest task and getting Neil Lennon as Manager may be key. hopefully he may bring a goalkeeper with him so long as whoever the manger is heshe plays wingers on the right wings and not that dogs dinner that CH played with Snodgrass and Redmond.. players I would like to see signed strikers 2 Lewis grabban and Rudy Gestede.

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    tunsteadtiger

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • The day it went wrong was when CH was appointed and I did not want him as our manager in the first place. We would have been relegated last season if it had not been for the 10 match unbeaten run. McNally and the Board just sat on there hands doing nothing and watched the club spiral into the Championship. I do I have any confidence in the Board to making a successful appointment? Absolutely not! Think Grant, Roeder, Gunn and now Hughton. Lambert was, I believe, just sheer luck.The decision making of this Board is, at best, weak.

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    KC Canary

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Where did it all go wrong? Answer: McNally.

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    Vic Sponge

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • The reason why norwich went down was because we where the third worst club the premiership ---FACT

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    Norwich

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Loyal local supporters deserve better. However next season is a new start. Let's get back up there soon. Players....take responsibility. Wonder who will stay to put things right

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    freckles

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Where did it go wrong? 1) Buying a centre forward who clearly thrives on crosses (as he did on his debut) and then play wingers on their 'wrong' foot meaning all they do is cut in and shoot. 2) Giving the Manager the brief of "not finishing in the bottom three" - lacked any sort of ambition and that is how CH set his teams up all season. 3) Ineffective substitutions either through timing or only like for like. Never gave the opposition something different to think about. Very damning stat. that out of 90 odd subs made by CH this season only one resulted in a goal - and that in a 4-2 defeat at Southampton. 4) Never really established 'best eleven'. When we had that good run last season we were pretty much playing same team each week. 5) Easy with hindsight I know but should have made change at Christmas. Most telling comment of the season for me was when Snodgrass said, answering questions about CH's mangerial tenure, "he means well". Very odd comment to make.

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    Peter Jones

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Inept manager (CH), negative tactics and indecisive weak board. Add in 2 unproven strikers at Premier League level, sidelining our most creative player, Hoolahan, for much of the season and playing the most unentertaining brand of football that I have ever seen for most of the season. We deserve to be relegated. What disappoints me most of all is the board's arrogant attitude in not listening to the vast majority of fans who vociferously demanded that CH be replaced after the 7-0 drubbing by Manchester City and every week thereafter.

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    Hurdy Gurdy Man

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Waclor, because we are a great team and football club, maybe we're not ready for bigger things but I like to be optimistic

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    NC_Fan_In_China

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • I have not seen commented on anywhere , but this is the third club Bassong has been with and got relegated.

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    canarybell

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Fan in China, why on earth do you think any of those players would want to come to Norwich?

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    waclor

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Where it went wrong is easy. We had the wrong manager and coaches and the board lacked the courage to take action until it was too late. How to put it right is easy to say and difficult to do. Appoint the right manager and coaches.

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    waclor

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Houghton was the wrong manager! lack of support from the board(no guts) not sacking houghton sooner! Houghton's buying skills of players was appalling. McNally Mcnally Mcnally, get to grip and fast or you will be the next casualty? City supporters deserve more, deserve better deserve success I question that of the whole board. If you can't find the cash to support this club then get out. This club needs investment and I am sure there is someone out to give it!

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    Keep it Low

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Liam Moore Leicester City Jamaal Lascelles Nottingham Forrest Will Hughes Darby County Danny Ings Burnley Harry Maguire Sheffield United. A few young lads we should look into I think

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    NC_Fan_In_China

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • I'm not too involved in this commenting game but I will be from now on, is this the best place to chat about City? Do you lads know of a better banter website? I must say tho I love the comments and banter on the Pink In! Great bunch of lads and great reading while on the bog lol! As you can tell by my account name I'm living out in China and I watch the games at 11pm Saturday nights, well most of the time. I'm rambling Haha! OTBC

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    NC_Fan_In_China

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • The fact that Hughton was not given money to spend in the winter was a clear sign the board wanted us to go down, if you have a striking problem and a lovely open transfer window you'd think "gee we should sign a couple forwards but no they decided a winger and a defender will do! Crazy, he was sacked in the mind of the bored at that time witch makes me wonder why keep him on so long?! Also, Snodgrass was a Lambert target and then Houghton signs him.... Something tells me the manager is not in control of who to sign, the board needs to let the new manager pick and choose freely or we'll just become another Cardiff or Leeds (controlled footballing issues tactics, signings from the owners and board) that I think was a major problem in the Premier League. We're so lucky we have money in the bank and players of great value to sell, we can spend bigish in the summer window and that alone is exciting. I feel an overwhelming sense of freshness at the start of a new season, chipping away at the dead hourses and bringing in fresh blood. I saw Norwich in League One I'll take the Championship everyday of the week! I see this as a slight Hick up and we paid the price for being shy and defending and accepting losses week in and out. Someone on here said CH was not in the spirit of the Norwich fans, its so true, we say "Never mind the Danger" but he said "for god sake lads defend as we will probably loose this game"

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    NC_Fan_In_China

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Ruddy, Bassong, Snodgrass, Van Wolf, Fur, Hooper, Hoolahan, Redmond, Olsson, Tettey, Becchio and Pilkington will leave, some are not good enough, some are sick of playing for us, some think they can do better Bla, Bla. Now, some of these players don't need to be replaced, like Ruddy can be replaced by Bunn and Rudd, young and older battling it out for the number 1 shirt, if Yobo is still interested in a contract give it to him as he can replace Bassong, Snodgrass's replacement is easy, young Elliot Bennett, Howson can take Fur's place, Garrido is on line to take over from Olsson and the Murphy twins can take over from Pilkington and Hoolahan, that's easy. Send back all loan turkeys. With that said we still have a striking problem, maybe one lad from the lower leagues up and coming and ready for the step up, maybe a loan from one of the big clubs and an older striker who scores for fun at the Championship level, we need of course a bigger squad after the sale s but that's another thing, we don't need to spend big is my point, we can go up again easily, but we do need a fearful and attacking minded manager, I'd go for Michael Laudrup.

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    NC_Fan_In_China

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • to be honest, there are too many things that make up the big picture, far too many to be listed in this small space. For me the writing was on the wall around christmas last season Hardly any points had been picked and only a couple of games at the end were what made the position look good. It was a little bit false. It was then the board should have taken action, Hughton could not lift us out of that slump from Christmas onwards, why would he do it in a new season. Players were brought in that certainly didn't buy into the ethos of the club, in trying to buy the success the togetherness, that strong bond which had stood us in good stead was overlooked. Hughton was a players manager allowed them too much freedom,choice and voice. while they all love him he is seen as a mate rather than a manager. whoa better stop there, like the iceberg that got the titanic, there is more underneath which we cannot clearly see

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    Goldie Boy

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Not getting wingers who would create chances for our forwards. Those you you who bale the Wolf should really look at the chances he has had created for him, and as Hoops stated earlier in the season has has not scored so many goals from outside the box, which means he has not been given the chances in the box. Unfortunately the wrong player will receive the player of the year award this afternoon ( Snoddy). He does not pass until he is in an impossible area to make a decisive pass, and Redmond tries to shoot to often. But the main problem is that the 2 wingers play on the wrong wings which mean they have to cut back on their good foot to centre and most times the chance has gone. CH should sorted it out but of course he was not bothered about forward play.

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    canarybell

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • What load of old cobblers this article is ! We are down FACT all the media coverage in the world will make no difference , and as for reasons why, do you need 26,000 answers. Let`s all get behind the club NOW they need our support more than ever, O T B C forever.

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    richard grout

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Albert H; I remember Hooper having a mini scoring streak late in 2013. Predictably, the pundits described us as "the improving Norwich City". Archie`s lot relapsed into happy-clappery to please the Happy Clappers. Where it all went wrong was complacency at Board level, child-like complaisance by the H-Cs, and lazy, arrogant players. Hughton was as much a symptom as he was the cause. Getting rid of Hughton is not the total solution. Norwich is a Frankenstein`s Monster of a club. You cannot build a new team by grave-robbing.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Unless McNally has absolute power in hiring and firing managers it is unfair to blame him alone for dithering over Hughton - which is where it went wrong. The board, who never seem to get it right with managers (lucky with Lambert), will now probably act in haste rather than wait and see who is available after the end of season managerial departures. It's the one thing you ask a board to do - appoint the right manager. Look at Derby since McClaren arrived, CP after Pulis and Allardyce, despite their unhappy fans, got them promoted and has made them safe with games to spare. Allardyce could be available soon.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • OK so we are going down and that is bad. On the other hand we have come along way and are now solvent and in a position to mount a challenge next season. In Lambert we had a manager who suited us. We City fans are brought up to admonish our heroes to Never Mind The danger do gung-ho football suits us. Hughton was therefore never right for us. A defensive mindset that produced teams that often failed to offer a Herat going forward while leaking like a sieve at the other end. The board delayed too long in making the inevitable decision to get rid. From the day the fixtures came out it was clear we needed to get enough points on the board before the last 4 games. Adams was handed an impossible brief and has at least restored some pride. He should be involved going forward a s coach but perhaps not as manager, we need to trust the board to make the right decision. They have brought us a long way from the the depths of league one. The new manager need a to be in place soon, preferably next week so he can get straight down to developing the squad. Some will go, some should go, some must go. Others will come in. Me can't sit and mope. There were always going to be umps along the way. Stick together and the good times will return. OTBC.

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    dumpcanary

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Quite simply it goes back to last summer when we purchased two strikers (Hooper and Van Wolfswinkel) who were not up to the task required of them. If we had a regular goalscorer we would still be in the premiership.

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    Albert Horton

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Where to start.........In the first instance the board hired a likeable but uninspiring manager whose brief was to stagger over the line in 17th or better place and preserve the Premiership cashflow. That Manager, Chris Hughton, succeeded in that brief last season due to an midseason unbeaten (not winning), run and the fact that the season was over inflated by Man city and West Brom starting their holidays a couple of weeks early. This season started with high intentions bolstered by 2 high profile strikers, and a killer midfield signing in Fer. The danger cones went up as early as day one at Hull. The first of several disastrous defeats that should have been bankers for us. That list of defeats is embarrassingly long, culminating in the boxing Day defeat by Fulham. It became obvious to all that Hughton coached not to lose, rather than to win. That he was incapable of thinking on his feet and applying a "Plan B", and his substitutions, when they eventually came where totally ineffectual. Why the board held out on sacking Hughton for so long is one of the great mysteries of 2014. It is now generally agreed by most observers that this board level dithering, is the main reason for the situation we now find ourselves in. Neil Adams was handed a last minute poison chalice, with little or no chance of success. To sum up....this debacle is due to a dithering board and management refusing to accept that their appointed manager was taking us straight back to the championship, until it was too late. Was it Nero that fiddled whilst Rome was burning down around him???

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    Algarve Canary

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Fer and the wolf can leave with pleasure,along with Hoolahan,Pilkington and Bassong,who I think want to leave anyway.Need to sign a big strong striker who can hold the ball up and hopefully score goals,a midfielder who can pass the ball, tackle and score plenty of goals and a defender who can play anywhere along the back who must also be good at attacking set pieces.we might also need another keeper,though I hope Ruddy stays.Where it went wrong for me was holding on to Hughton.He should have been gone at least on boxing day.Would like to see Adams involved next season,either as manager or coach,he deserves it and passionate for ncfc.

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    tonyb

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • mcnally made his first big mistake since he has been in the job. the strikers were not working he should have at christmas: 1 fired houghton or 2 backed houghton to the end of of the season AND invested in a proven striker. he did the worst thing, keeping houghton without buying a new striker and then saying he was looking at houghtons future jusy to keep the fans happy. Mcnally needs to get his strong business act together now and apoint the right man. as he has done before, no sentimental job offers please (see Gunn).

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    David Fulcher

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • What went wrong? I think we rose too quickly from the disaster that was league one to the dizzy heights of the prem. Perhaps it was unrealistic to think we could survive for ever after at the highest level on the first attempt. Perhaps we were always going to need to bounce up and down for a few years before we could establish ourselves. Perhaps now we will find out. In Lambert we had a manager who suited the ethos of the club. City fans are brought up to implore their heroes to "never mind the danger" so gung-ho football suits us. Hughton never fitted the same mold. Over cautious in the extreme. A defensive mindset that conceded goals like a sieve while failing in many games to offer any threat at the other end bored us all or at least failed to excite most of us. The board failed to read to writing on the wall or to note the severity of the last 4 games and the implications for when we needed to earn our points. We will not go down because we failed to take 10 points from those games but because in the home games against Fulham Cardiff and WBA ( the rest of the bottom 4) we took only one of the 9 points on offer. We are we are. We are solvent and have a good core of players . Some will go, some should go, some must go. We need to resolve the manager issue quickly. I like Adams as a coach but he has not dealt in the transfer market. I would be in favour of the Malky Neil double act but we need to trust the board to make the right decision for the club. They have brought us from the brink of disaster to stability. There will always be bumps along the way. Stick together, the good times will return. OTBC.

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    dumpcanary

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • If there was one thing I could change it would be everything!

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    el dingo

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

  • Snodgrass taking the penalty against Villa. Limp like the rest of the season

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    Pondlife

    Sunday, May 11, 2014

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