UPDATED RUMOUR MILL: Norwich City striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel in talks with Saint Etienne over a loan deal

Norwich City striker Ricky Van Wolfswinkel is being linked with a move to France. 
Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Norwich City striker Ricky Van Wolfswinkel is being linked with a move to France. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Friday, August 1, 2014
8:56 AM

Norwich City’s club-record signing Ricky van Wolfswinkel is attracting interest from French Ligue One club Saint Etienne, with reports in France on Friday claiming the Greens have now opened talks over a potential loan deal.

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French radio station RMC was reporting on Friday morning Saint Etienne had targeted van Wolfswinkel to replace Brazilian striker Brandao, who has moved to SC Bastia this week and the Dutch striker’s move could go through over the weekend if agreement can be reached with the Canaries.

French newspapers went further to suggest van Wolfswinkel arrived in Lyon on Thursday night ahead of a proposed medical for a season-long loan, with St Etienne having the option to buy the striker for a reported six million Euros. The French club would also pay van Wolfswinkel’s entire salary during his stint in Ligue One this coming season.

The latest twist follows Skysports claim on Thursday the Greens were one of the two clubs van Wolfswinkel’s agent, Louis Laros, revealed earlier in the week were prepared to offer the Dutch international an escape route. The former Sporting Lisbon striker scored one goal in 25 Premier League appearances following his move from Portugal 12 months ago.

Laros also stated van Wolfswinkel was willing to consider a potential short-term deal if City’s top brass decided to get one of their bigger earners off the payroll.

Laros, quoted in Voetbal International on Tuesday, made it clear two clubs ‘outside England and Holland’ had expressed an interest in signing the Dutch international whilst hinting van Wolfswinkel would struggle to accept a bit-part role in the Championship.

“The difference between supply and demand is such that I do not expect that there is a very quick decision,” Laros told the Dutch football magazine. “Norwich City is willing to co-operate, but expect something in return...the Championship is not the stage on which he plays football.”

The 25-year-old missed City’s Italian training camp last week after damaging knee ligaments in a training ground collison with Declan Rudd after scoring a brace in a 6-1 friendly win at Braintree, but the striker is expected to be back in contention for the Championship kick-off.

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  • All the effort to engage with others on football issues blanked. Yet "Bollox Archie" is fine. Weird. Or `wierd` - for Paddy.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Mad Brewer

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Was wondering if anyone would notice that Scotcan. I get the feeling Lafferty & Grabban are Adams choosen men. Reports I heard about a falling out between Hooper and Adams last season may have been settled but just get feeling in Adams eyes its Grabban and Lafferty first.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • No Hooper either in your team(s), Matt? I see he is in the squad for tonight.

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    ScotCan

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • That sure is a big concern, Matt333. We definitely need some more cover at center back. It does seem strange that Bassong isn't at least being given a glimpse since he's all that we have for cover at the moment. If he's totally out in the cold(as it seems) then we need another CB, sooner rather than later. My question is are we waiting to loan one in from a bigger club? As far as right back goes, it seems possible that Elliot Bennett might be second or third on the list as options - but that seems more like an experiment than an option at this point. He played it before under Lambert as an emergency move, but that was only for part of one game, wasn't it?

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    NorthCarolinaCanary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Spot on chap. Agree totally. Im hoping the shoes on the other foot this season and its us setting up naturally as Neil wants, with others having to try contain us or work out a way of stopping us. Fingers crossed. On the back line, while I believe it'll be those 5 regardless of what formation we go with, its worrying what would happen when we get a few injuries. Whittaker goes down its obvious Martin will shuffle over, but then that leaves us with zero cover centre back should bennett or turner go down.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Great food for thought, Matt333, It does seem that the back four is settled and that Grabban and Lafferty are the preferred pairing up front since they are a combination of size, pace, and power. The midfield selection and overall formation are the hardest to discern. Who does Adams rate the highest? Will he play a formation that he believes will match up best against Wolves or will he choose his favorite system and see if they can impose their will?

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    NorthCarolinaCanary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Could very well be it buddy. Im not convinced if playing the diamond, he will go with two tradional wingers out wide. Maybe more two central midfielders who can operate as MCL & MCR (like lambert use to). Plenty of options though. This isnt MY team but more suggestions what I think Adams will pick based on current injuries, transfers etc. 442 Ruddy, Olsson, Whit, Martin, Turner, Johnson, Surman, Bennett, Redmond, Grabban, Lafferty. Or 433 Ruddy, Olsson, Martin, Whit. Turner, Johnson, Surman, Tettey, Redmond, Grabban (or bennett as the Right hand attacker), Lafferty. Or 4411 Ruddy, Olsson, Whit, Martin, Turner, Johnson, Surman, Bennett, Redmond, Hoolahan, Lafferty. Or The Diamond, Ruddy, Olsson, Whit, Martin, Turner, Johnson, Surman, Redmond. Hoolahan, Grabban, Lafferty. Plenty of options to keep people guessing at least! Really dunno what I'd pick as my personal choice xi.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Mattias333 - It is rather difficult to pick the starting XI but I'll have a go. Adams seems to prefer the diamond formation so I'll assume that's what he'll go with. Ruddy, of course. Whittaker, Martin, Turner and Olsson in the back. Tettey - if healthy - as the holding mid(Johnson if not). Redmond on the left and Bennett on the right. Hoolahan in the hole. Lafferty and Grabban up front.

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    NorthCarolinaCanary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Not going to disagree Goldie ref strength. For what Hughton was trying to play it was never going to work. In fairness the football style required to suit his fox in the box type isnt played by any side in the lower half of the Prem. Its only played in sides in top half of prem (or top half of the champ), because you have to be attacking, you have to be the favourite etc. Otherwise you have to go down the strength and lumping it route (generally) to try claw yourself a result.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Yes RVW looked classy but was too frail against Premier league defenders and I must agree the CEO and Board were very poor to let Hughton carry on so long.

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    goldie

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Amazed I got through at last!

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    goldie

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Just had a go on the previous post about the rubbish Pinkun site, but guess what? it failed to make its way to archant, suprise suprise RVW to go IMO one very highly paid player off the wage bill to allow a decent player in.

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    goldie

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Yes Archant get a grip site has been poor to put it as politely as I can. Anyway on to matters NCFC I would like RVW to stay and let show us what he is about because, I don't think CH did him any favours and as a result the lads confidence was so low that he couldn't hit the target from 5 yards.

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    Egyptian canary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • I may be opening a can of worms trying to do this, while the sites having its time of the month but can anyone honestly tell me they have a nailed down starting xi for NCFC or a starting xi they think Neil will select for the first game? I still cant do it. I can nail down what Id have as a back 5 and what I think neil will have as a back 5. Past that though im stuck trying to fit about 12 worthy candidates for a starting role into 6 spaces. Cant even pick a system let alone starting xi. Give it a go. Only rules Id say to follow are: consider Howson unselectable due to his injury. Likely a good idea to not include Fer & RVW due to the very high chance they wont be here by time we play Wolves. (also the usual suspects like Bassong, Becchio prob shouldn't be included!)

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Snodgrass gone, looks like RVW is going. I wonder who will be the next whipping boy for the miseries? Careful, we may be left with a team composed of Wes, Ruddy and Redmond!

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    PaulWho

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Who cares where he goes,just as long as he goes elsewhere.We could always swap him for a Swiss Army knife.One complete tool for another....

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    Nexus_6

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • .....It's pleased me no end to hear that you have been having trouble logging in, and commenting....I had almost resigned myself to having a new computer|.... Brew!..As far as that Hughton - Robert business was concerned, I think you are probably right! .....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Massively disappointed with this development. It's a shame that so many people - fans, the media and even those working at the Club - refused to look past the terrible management imposed upon Rickie last season. He will do well elsewhere, even though I don't agree with letting him go. OTBC

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    Powers1902

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • He did post a picture of himself at the training ground a few days ago with some of the younger players, even though hes meant to be on leave. Read into that what you will ;) BTW the sites still playing up sadly for me. Getting the odd one through. Just fails to load rather than the old naughty word rubbish.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • I would be more concerned if Southampton whack £30-40m of their new-found wealth on the table for Ruddy, Olssen, Fer, Redmond and Hooper. Their squad could do with it and those 5 are certainly Prem quality if played the right way. That could solve their issues in 1 hit and surely Delia and co couldn't turn that down.

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    Crazy canary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Wow! Allowed on! Hi, Uncle Stew. One comment on your comment: - was "Houghton" not Robert`s Disciple, rather than the reverse? I assume you were referring to The Penaltygate Kid. On RvW, I confess that I could see little in his physique, strength, courage, pace, technique or attitude to suggest he had anything much to offer. But you never know... Just what is the overall standard of the portuguese League we recruited him from? Is it a bit like the SPL, with just one decent team and a gaggle of L1-standard makeweights? Just asking, `cos I don`t know...

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Oh how I scoffed at everybody struggling with this website the other day - what a 'mare I had yesterday with it . Gave up and now I can truly say I feel your pain. Anyway, once again a spot on obvs from Matt333 about Winkel. I hope he stays but with Hooper AND Winkel demanding 1st team footie and the demand on wages I can't see both staying. Shame. In other news, and whether people are firm believers in Twitter, Instagram etc - not me, too lazy to use it - my friend commented on the fact that Leroy Fer has removed all of his Norwich city photos and only has personal ones now: read into that what you will...

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Oh how I scoffed at everybody struggling with this website the other day - what a 'mare I had yesterday with it . Gave up and now I can truly say I feel your pain. Anyway, once again a spot on obvs from Matt333 about Winkel. I hope he stays but with Hooper AND Winkel demanding 1st team footie and the demand on wages I can't see both staying. Shame. In other news, and whether people are firm believers in Twitter, Instagram etc - not me, too lazy to use it - my friend commented on the fact that Leroy Fer has removed all of his Norwich city photos and only has personal ones now: read into that what you will...

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Very disappointing when agents and fans are talking such rubbish yet what comes from the horses mouth so to speak is very positive regarding his future at NCFC. Reality is, I dont believe Adams rates him. Adams cant wait to praise any other player, whether its grabban or Mr 1 goal from 7 games at a lower level Loza, but with RVW its always so negative. Not a problem. Thats football. All managers have players they rate and players they dont. Adams clearly wants rid regardless what RVW tweets on his social network. Thats where his agent is likely telling the gospel truth when he said RVW isnt going to be happy sitting around playing a bit part. The club likely wont be too thrilled with that either with the wages hes on. I like RVW, I believe in RVW but even I wouldnt have him in my NCFC starting 11 right now and thats likely what it all boils down to. RVW may be happy to stay and fight for a place, but I get the feeling Adams doesn't even see him as getting on the bench at the moment. Thats one heck of an expensive back up player. Of course we all know what will happen if RVW leaves though. Grabban & Hooper will get injured, Lafferty will go chasing women in Wroxham for weeks on end and we will be left with Loza trying to expand on his 7 league2 games & 1 goal. I hope he stays, however I fully understand if he left. From what us fans have seen, hes been treated a little harshly. Lets sign a striker known for being a poacher, predator type, then play him within a defensive, aim to get a 0-0 setup and persist in hoofing the ball to him on half way and create ZERO chances in the actual box for him. Following that, lets all have a moan when he only scores 1 goal forgetting the fact he was injured for half the season. Great logic. He was hardly Peter "play upfront all season with chances put on a plate for him, score 1 goal" Thorne.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • It would be very naive to assume that Wolfswinkel has no input into the statements from his agent. His agent will be the closest professional person to him, especially during the transfer window. If the words 'the Championship is not the stage on which he plays football" do not originate from Wolfswinkel then he at the very least must endorse them as he has made no effort to refute those words or to confirm his commitment to Norwich City. I believe that he is agitating to be away from Carrow Road before his light weight , meagre talents are exposed for everyone to see in the robust,aggressive,competitive arena of the Championship.

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    kenfoggo

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • .....A few changes have taken place at Norwich City, as we are aware of...Hughton and co have gone and been replaced by dedicated Canary enthusiasts...Houghton's disciple has gone and taken his team destroying attitude with him!...There are still some players who will not fit into the new set up, and the sooner they are removed the better!...Adams hints that he will build his team around Wes Hoolahan...the choice of many fans!...Let us all hope the depression caused by our penalty misser which caused much of the unease between individuals has disappeared, and team spirit has been restored!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • It would be very naive to assume that Wolfswinkel has no input into the statements from his agent. His agent will be the closest professional person to him, especially during the transfer window. If the words 'the Championship is not the stage on which he plays football" do not originate from Wolfswinkel then he at the very least must endorse them as he has made no effort to refute those words or to confirm his commitment to Norwich City. I believe that he is agitating to be away from Carrow Road before his light weight , meagre talents are exposed for everyone to see in the robust,aggressive,competitive arena of the Championship.

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    kenfoggo

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Another day, same malfunctioning message board

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    Lincs Canary

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • well put Dubai. But have you ever seen so much fuss created by a statement from an agent.Mr Louis Laros, apart from taking 10%, what do you do apart from stir and agitate for the benefit of Mr Laros.?

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Friday, August 1, 2014

  • Dear Louis, I think you need to cut the spin and come up with an offer that makes NCFC happy - lets say € 10 M+ for starters. Now the Championship is not the stage on which he plays football, really ? WRONG, the Championship is exactly where Ricky plays his football at the moment - IF - he can get into the NCFC starting line-up, that is ! Look, Louis he came from the Portuguese Primeira Liga which is about the same standard as the Scottish PL or English League 1 standard. Last season he did not exactly être à la hauteur did he - one goal in 25 PL outings is hardly impressive. If you can come up with a club and a sensible offer, bring it on - otherwise you would be best advised to shut your proverbial cakehole and let Ricky do his talking in the Chump, where he might just start scoring some goals.

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    Dubai Canary

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • I have to say that I haven't seen anything yo make think that RVW is arrogant or has a super inflated ego. This looks like a case of an agent bigging up his client resulting in a couple of knee jerk reactions. Remember what Wes said about the club? Some kind of house traditionally made from brick? He seems to have been forgiven.

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    PaulWho

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • CH style of play never suited RVW , perhaps the style of NA will ,I for one would like him to stay as it looks like NA may play 2 up front and which with the other strikers what great options we have . Buy a central defender and lets start , alas I think LB and LF will go

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    iMac

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • For goodness sake AlgarveCanary and VictorM, the comments are from a money grabbing agent who has no interest in his clients wishes. If you were following him on Twitter you would see how dedicated RVW is to the club and its fans. Spouting such hatred and vitriol towards a player who really cares, will have no benefit to the club. You're supposed to be fans, so get behind the lad. He, more than anyone will want to right the wrongs of last season. OTBC

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    Daniel Smith

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • Agree with Dave that RvW never had a chance last season. At the same time I doubt he could ever justify his high transfer fee in the unforgiving Premier League. Adams is prepared to give opportunities to Wes, who is coming to the end of his career and the Murphy twins etc who are starting out. RvW could score plenty goals at Championship level but there is a risk he may only get a few. With new strikers purchased, I anticipate the Dutchman will leave on loan to a club abroad who will cover his wages. The club can then draw a line on a purchase which did not work out and a scenario which the Board hope will not be repeated in the years ahead.

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    Capri

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • For goodness sake go - the sooner the better and take your self inflated ego with you.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • I cant believe the arrogance.."not the stage he plays football on"! One of the reasons Norwich will be playing championship football next season is that he, Van Wolfswinkel, was clearly not good enough to make his mark in the Premiership.RVW should be begging for the opportunity to prove he is good enough for English football, at ANY level!! Maybe he does need to go away and rebuild his sadly deflated career and reputation, but he shouldnt be allowed to slink away, and bad mouth Norwich from afar for HIS failure to perform on the greatest platform in world football!

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    Algarve Canary

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • I thought all the world's a stage and one man in his time plays many parts.

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    cutty

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • You could be right Dave but it seems that Adams is unconvinced, bearing in mind he bought two strikers early in the window to leave RVW as a high earning fourth choice striker. So let him go on loan, prove he was misused at Norwich, and come back with reputation rebuilt. Meanwhile, with someone else paying RVW's wages, Adams can bring in a player he wants, possibly on a seasons loan from a PL club.

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    Lincs Canary

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • under the Clueless one, this guy never stood a chance, i think with a different approach in tactics by Adams he could score a shed load of goals in the championship resulting in two things 1. increasing his value and 2 getting us back in the premier league

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    Dave

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • Van wolf winkle should be playing his brand of football in the meerkat manor league. I for one will be glad to see the back of mr disappoint'ment but i'm licking my lips in anticipation of the coming season. Here we go again, we're on the march we're Adams army!!

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    john dab

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • " The Championship is not the stage on which he plays football " , Hilarious , I wonder if he might let us know what stage he DOES play it on then , because it certainly wasn't the Prem , was it ? In any other job , proven incompetence in the job is eventually rewarded with termination of your contract , why are footballers treated as exceptions to that ? IMHO the guy is another in a long line of patent Duds , all puffed on arrival as the new Eusebio , all one-goal wonders .

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    Bring on Foggo

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • Admirably put. Completely agree with those sentiments. I for one would hate to watch him scoring for fun somewhere else and wondering what might have been.

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    Igno Rance

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

  • RvW really needs to make sure the move is one that can give him the challenge he needs to restore his confidence and showcase his obvious talent and ability .......... don't jump ship to save face, you could end up spiraling down the leagues .......... I for one would keep you in the squad and encourage a fair fight for one of striker berths .......... good luck for whatever path is chosen, OTBC

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, July 31, 2014

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