Chris Hughton insists he can ill afford to feel sympathy for rival Premier League bosses operating in the cut-throat world of top flight management.

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Norwich City’s 2-0 win at West Brom saw Baggies’ counterpart Steve Clarke heavily criticised for his selections and tactics after a third straight defeat in seven days increased the pressure on the Scot at the Hawthorns. Hughton has had to deflect questions on his own Carrow Road future during City’s lowest points this season, but the Canaries’ chief accepts that level of scrutiny comes with the territory.

“I would not give advice to any manager because if you are in this game long enough you will have experienced it,” he said. “There are very few of us who can win every week. I would love to be one of those but I am not. You have to ride the difficult times and accept you will not win every week. Every manager in that position will experience it. It is not so much the pressure that comes with the job because I feel it is more about the pressure you put on yourself.

“The defeats become harder, particularly these days, and you probably don’t enjoy the wins as much as you should do. It makes for a better weekend but come Monday morning it is about how you go about beating the next team and for us that is Swansea.”

Hughton revealed he spends little time fretting over endless speculation surrounding the Premier League ‘sack race’ and whoever is touted as the next top flight manager to lose their job.

“In all honesty I don’t listen to it,” he said. “I know how the game is and when one manager is under pressure it can easily switch.

“If people perceive the results are not what they should be that focus will be on you, but it can shift again to someone else the next week and another manager the following week after that. If you take note of that you drive yourself mad.

“You have to concentrate on the job and not other things. The pressure is always there. It is always on my shoulders. As soon as the good feel of a win goes it is about the pressure of trying to get that next result.”

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  • All this grant hols worship is absolute nonsense. Wes hoolihan created and put everything on a plate for him in the lower leagues. His goals in the premiership, most of them came from the subs bench when we were pressing forward near the end of the match chasing an equaliser. As a football player hiself, he couldnt kick doors at halloween. The smame fans who want CH gone are the same fans who idolise Holt and that tells its own story, he cant even get a game at Wigan in the championship

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    GPL

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • I'm really not trying to start a fight here but surely everyone can see Stew for what he is when he brings Chris Hughtons family into the equation. Comes off as very desperate. I think the heat is starting to get to him.

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    ncfc boy

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Pierre, "Sir Bobby". Is that a guess at one of the three managers who have won the top English division with two clubs?

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Well said, mjc 75. It seems to me that the Hughton fans are motivated by blind faith or fear of change. I guess the fact is that we could have a worse manager but could have a much better one. I trust McNally to take the right road. It's when he gives up and leaves that I shall really start to worry.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • I think a certain few people need to take a step back from these comments boxes, take a deep breath, and just go and try to enjoy being a NCFC fan. I think you're making each other neurotic, it's not healthy!

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    MancCanary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Who says we won't improve? We could go 10th this weekend. What will you say then? That we didn't do it the right way? you are so blinkered by your hatred of the management you are missing the football. The fact is, we have been beaten down a few times this season and we keep coming back and getting results. that shows strength of character and resolve. Shows strong leadership as well. I'm not blinded by liking Chris Hughton, I just don't think of it in the same way. I am sustained by the belief that things are going to come together. There are too many good things at the club right now. the Murphys, Leroy Fer, Gary Hooper coming through, RVW still to come (he has immense quality and will prove it) that I don't let myself become consumed by the poor things.

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    ncfc boy

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • It's a dangerous thing to compare football, (and anything requiring a human element as a product) to manufacturing, there are too many factors that are outside the control of everyone involved. Injuries, how the other team play, referees etc. The only thing we can control is how we support the team. Players will play well when they feel that they are loved. Managers will be more creative if they do not have the fear of the sack. I believe that if enough people get behind Chris Hughton he will succeed, if enough go the other way he will fail. The negativity of a crowd will affect the performance, and when the team is playing badly it’s an easy thing to criticise (think of all the players that have been singled out and booed in games, when the team sheet is read out). Much harder to try and lift a team that’s playing badly by encouragement. For those that say am I happy watching the football we are served, the answer is yes, I hated the result but I felt privileged to watch Luis Suarez on top of his game, it’s definitely preferable to losing 3-1 away to Tranmere, as we did back in 2010

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    Big Fat Jim

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Stew, this is just the very tedious "Get Out" Claus. He's visiting a number of premiership clubs this Christmas...

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    Pierre

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Sometimes managers and players simply click into place at one club but when they move on they fail to repeat the success they have had. That may well end up being the case for Lambert, as it was for Mike Walker all those years ago. The same could be said of Grant Holt, we were his last chance saloon and he grabbed it with both hands. Had we continued to play the way that suited him, he may have continued that success for another season but now we will never know. No he was never top class but he made up for lack of out and out skill with application and has my total respect for doing so. We could certainly do with finding another player in his mould right now to lead the team that is for sure, perhaps that could be Howson but unless he is given the chance we will never find that out.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Stew, would you not say that our results against the teams around us in the table have been favourable? And that therefor CH is setting his teams up to get the points that are needed? Doesn't the fact that we are scoring late goals regularly point to him creating a fit squad? Games against the top 4-8 teams matter little in terms of survival, performing against the lower teams does.......

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    Big Fat Jim

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Interesting take on GH and Moro, GPL. I must admit from his early promise, I was disappointed with Moro during the home nil nil against Chelsea. He looked as if he timed his run for any pass so he would arrive just too late, presumably so he would not have to do anything with the ball against good defenders. He also looked like he had a fit of the sulks. The GH thing I always took as his reaction to Calderwood and the negative tactics employed by Hughton. He did seem a bit heavier in August 2012 compared with August 2011 as if he was not so bothered about scoring goals for Hughton and Calderwood. Having said that he covered a lot of ground in the early part of the season for the team. In the absence of knowledge we fill in the gaps so my theory could be completely wrong. I still wish him well though and wish we still had a leader on the pitch.

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    waclor

    Thursday, December 12, 2013

  • to be replaced by Ole gunnar Soskjaer who is stalling in signing an extension to his Molde contract, which is up in the summer 2014 !!!!

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    malmocanary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • We've had five wins this season so far, which puts us on target for 13 wins this season against last seasons 10. That's 39 points. With 2 draws so far, scaling up that will be five draws over the season brining us to 44 points, That got us 11th last season. The team is settling down so I think we should do better than that and say we're going to finish on 50 points.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Without wanting to get into a slanging match with personal insults flying around, can I just say that as an ardent, yes, passionately ardent supporter of our team, I have been saying for over a year now that Hughton, and more particularly his woeful coaching team are just not up to the task in hand. Tactically inept, inability to change systems, late useless substitutions, he was given lots of money by our standards, bought some very good international class players and then proceeded to turn them into a Sunday morning pub team. Don't be fooled by a couple of lucky uninspired wins against hapless opposition, instead look at our goals conceded, attempts on goal and our general standard of play. Oh, and for the record that is 4 away wins in 28 attempts since he came here,hardly confidence boosting stats are they? Mike Phelan is out of work and could bring much needed nous back to Carrow Road. I am and always will be a Canary fan, and I love my team, which is why I will never be a Hughton and co. fan

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    oldtimer

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Thanks for the history lesson, LYB. What we can learn from it is we're not very good at choosing managers; Lambert excepted. Lambert's NCFC were better to watch, that's the main difference. If I were enjoying the football I would not mind CH so much. I don't hate him - what's to hate? but honestly he's witless.

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    Cecil

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Grant Holt may not have been the best player in the world, but he was a grafter, a good goal scorer and a charismatic leader that played a major part in getting us where we are today. Making second best English goal scorer in the Premier League in his first season was no mean feat either. Plus a fantastic story, rising through the ranks from non-league to the top English League. Definitely a legend. Think the Wigan epilogue kind of ruins the narrative a bit though.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • NCFC Boy I wouldnt worry about the comment made about CH having to juggle bringing up a family and supporting a wife. It is a total nonsense statement by whoever said it. His family are all grown up, the youngest is actually about 25 and I am sure his wife can look after herself being a grown woman too

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    GPL

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Cecil, do you think Lambert should be sacked from Aston Villa? He's delivered a point less to them in all his games there than Hughton has to us starting with a far higher value squad. Has he become witless in your opinion?

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • I'd also be interested to know if those so set on getting rid of him would be taking the same attitude towards Paul Lambert if he'd delivered the same number of points over this season and the last season?

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • With Chris always seems to be one step forward and two steps back. Would rather Mike in charge was more of a winner on and off the field than Chris, Just never had the number 1 job. Time will tell and don't think the club will sack Chris. Hope Chris can prove me wrong wrong with a mid to high finish in the table.

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    Darrell Reed

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • 'dubai' had only just said " glad to see things here are moving back to debate about City and not people knocking chunks out of each other" and along comes 'powelld123' and spoils it all. I have to agree the postings on this article have been some of the best for awhile. Made me think, which after all, is what debate is all about.

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    Lobbo

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • waclor your remarks regarding Mike Phelan are wrong. It was widely reported that Moyes was advised by Sir Fergie to keep the existing staff to assist in the change of managers. Mike Phelan has played, coached and managed at the highest level. N City would be well advised to give him consideration when the board finally realises that City are going backwards under CH and are in real danger of Championship football. Much is being made of a win at WBA . Never saw the game but it seems that the City goal led a charmed life. I am sick of hearing we must expect to be thrashed by the top teams and we cannot compete against them. Why not ? CH sends teams out expecting to lose. Then comes the same old dross about not being able to compete. It is no accident that Suarez sets World records against us. The City defence does nothing to stop him. As many others have commented, Hull managed very successfully to do just that. This bunch of players are very short of skill but the manager does not instill the spirit to fight and do the basics correctly. Tired of being in a relegation battle , there is no reason that City cannot grow into a much more successful club. Not under CH though.

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    norman hall

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • I will also be very happy for CH to prove me wrong and turn things around. However, I am not confident, and feel there are a lot of things that need fixing quickly if NCFC are to avoid a season on the verges of a relegation battle. On the question of a next manager, it is interesting to see Lennon and DiMatteo quite high up the odds for next NCFC manager - both have a lot to prove if they came (back in the case of DiMatteo) into the EPL and might see NCFC as a place to make a real name for themselves.

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    MichiganCanary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Mike phelan is a joke. He's never managed a team in his life and is currently ridin on Alex fergusons coat tails. Not up to the job. And if you hate negative football then you aren't exactly going to like malky! He is far more negative and unsuccessful than Hughton! Doesn't matter if he's a club legend it not.

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    ncfc boy

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Much of the responses regarding suggested replacements for CH centre around the logic of " so and so has no proven EPL experience " or " he hasn't had a managers job before " , well to be honest CH was somewhat lacking in the experience stakes when he took over so I'm not seeing how that can hold as a defence for keeping CH . Anytime a manager is replaced , no matter how much experience the new man may have , is something of a gamble . A lot of it falls to pure chance , luck if you will . But from what I have read on here since CH took over , a lot people have resolutely stuck with giving him time , it started with the side not being his players , rather that he inherited it from Lambert so could not be blamed for anything until he had his squad in place . Well he has now got his squad in place , he has had plenty of time to assert his style , his philosophy , but we always look as though we are about to implode neve looking comfortable when leading , or able to really fight back ( WHU excluded ) . My point is this , how much time is enough , are we expected to endure the constant threat of another drubbing every time we play a side in the top six ? CH is always stating in interviews that he had stressed the importance of " not losing " , our boys then get a hammering and he tells us that " perhaps their quality was such that we couldn't contend with them , as they are such a good side " . We need a manager in charge that will send his side out with the intention of winning , that publicly backs the quality within his own squad . A man that can see when things are not going the way of his side well before the 89th minute , and so make a change and make use of his bench . I accept that others disagree with my view , but I am yet to really see a post that makes the case for keeping him . Time is running out fast .

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    mjc75

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Well said, mjc 75. It seems to me that the Hughton fans are motivated by blind faith or fear of change. I guess the fact is that we could have a worse manager but could have a much better one. I trust McNally to take the right road. It's when he gives up and leaves that I shall really start to worry.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • I often agree with LYB because we both agree that CH is doing a decent job at the club but I am afraid we cannot agree on Gran Holt. His ego grew out of control and both he and Steve Morison were a nightmare to deal with. When they got together they thought they were both better than they were and both began to think they were bigger than the club. CH handled the situation with them both brilliantly and eased them both out of the club so that both the players and the management team didnt lose face. Holt left with a solid reputation and we got £2million in the bank

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    GPL

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Sorry Mr G one further point. Mike Phelan successfully held down the job as Assistant Manager at Man U and therefore obviously impressed Sir Alex. However Sir Alex did not recommend him to be his successor. How's that for a balanced view?

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Stew, were my questions too hard to answer? It was too easy to target NFC boy instead? I'm actually interested in your counter argument....

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    Big Fat Jim

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Unless the manager in question is an absolute train crash that gets us relegated, which Hughton clearly isn't, I think three years is about right. You're right this is his squad this year, on the other hand, with the exception of Redmond, he hasn't worked with any the new players any more than he had last year's squad and they're also players that hadn't worked with any of the other players around them, so judging performances this season has to be in the context of experimentation and development rather than a ready-made end product.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • LYB, Much of what you say shows you are a true supporter of the club and give deep thought to various aspects. I am not suggesting we change our manager right now and accept that we have had too many disasters on that front in recent years, however for me the big difference is, they were all selected by the previous Chief Exec Nil Doon Caster so I see no reason why McNally would not find us another gem.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Not sure I'd go that far Waclor. We took three points off three of the top four last season. Personally I haven't written off doing so again this season at some point.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • FlyingCanary. Agree. He's a long way from perfect, but there's every sign that he has strengths and he's tackling his weaknesses head on by the looks of it. Lobbo is right that we should be aspiring to constant improvement and there have been elements to this season where it has felt like we've gone backwards at times, but with so many players gone and new faces in I'm not sure that wasn't to be expected. I still think he has done enough and is still doing well enough that there's no reason that he shouldn't complete his three year contract at the very least and consider whether to stick or twist in a more sobre fashion than on the back of the result of the last game every week. Again, I partly agree with Lobbo that we should be looking for the best possibleperformance, it goes without saying really, but when setting minimum requirements to tear up the strategy and start again then expectations shouldn't be so hard and fast. Thankfully, the board seems to be taking more of a long term view on this as well. That said, we're in sight of 10th place and the upcoming games are a great opportunity to get the club where we want it to be, in the top half.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Not sure if Ole Gunnar Soskjaer has the management pedigree or experience to take us anywhere, besides, I understand he is being linked to Chris Hughton's old job at Birmingham City. Despite the concerns, CH has pulled us up to a respectable position going into the Dec Jan fixture. I would certainly hope and expect City to be beyond the 30 point mark by end of Jan '14. That would leave another 11 PL games to get (a point a game) and across the 43 Point safety mark before the last four games which are a 'run in of death'. So there you are - PL safety is pretty much assured - City can only improve, strengthen and move onwards. Progress is just a bit slower and more painful in this league - have faith !

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    Dubai Canary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • I am neither for or against CH but during his reign my opinion constantly swings one way and then the other over his ability to keep us in the Premiership. We started last season very badly under him and I for one would have changed managers very quickly had I been on the board, then however, we had an excellent run as he seemed to find his feet. We then hit the traditional Christmas buffers, heaven help us if that is just around the corner again, then for the majority of the second half of last season we were terrible and once again I would have changed manager before our miraculous escape with two great results. During the close season he was able to spend big and bring his own players in, but so far the performances have been generally below the standard I would hope to see, albeit we have scraped just about enough points to keep us out of the drop zone but many teams down there have made changes and are starting to turn their season around. One thing is for sure; we are not playing the same attractive football during most games compared to that under the previous manager. I think we did against Chelsea and I left the ground happy despite the result as we had given it a go. Despite beating both WHU and Palace, I and many supporters around me left feeling a little down as we really struggled to beat poor sides. At that point I would again have looked to replace him. I was happy with the three points at WBA but reports from friends suggest we were very poor and only survived with a big chunk of lady luck. I just wonder how many season ticket holders will be willing to sign up once again for next season this February if we are still playing the same style and the board increase the ticket prices by another inflation busting amount.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • It's a dangerous thing to compare football, (and anything requiring a human element as a product) to manufacturing, there are too many factors that are outside the control of everyone involved. Injuries, how the other team play, referees etc. The only thing we can control is how we support the team. Players will play well when they feel that they are loved. Managers will be more creative if they do not have the fear of the sack. I believe that if enough people get behind Chris Hughton he will succeed, if enough go the other way he will fail. The negativity of a crowd will affect the performance, and when the team is playing badly it’s an easy thing to criticise (think of all the players that have been singled out and booed in games, when the team sheet is read out). Much harder to try and lift a team that’s playing badly by encouragement. For those that say am I happy watching the football we are served, the answer is yes, I hated the result but I felt privileged to watch Luis Suarez on top of his game, it’s definitely preferable to losing 3-1 away to Tranmere, as we did back in 2010

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    Big Fat Jim

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • I believe you can and should compare an EPL football club to a manufacturing or other business. In a manufacturing business you have people designing, engineering, and assembling the product, and if they are not inspired and doing a spot-on job, your product is not competitive. As for Stew P comments - he is right. There are things in life you cannot change, but if you are on the board of a company and people are not performing as needed then you change them for someone who is, to get the business performing at it's peak. It is not personal - maybe he is a great really nice person, but you have to do what is right for the business, or it suffers in the longer term. Often when the move is made, both sides are happier and less stressed, and the replaced person goes on to do better in another area. It is a case of optomising a business to perform at it's peak, and although CH has a great many attributes, my opinion NCFC is not performing at its peak with its current resources under him. Maybe all that is needed is an attacking coach, but improvements need to happen for the betterment of the club. Just my opinion.

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    MichiganCanary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Blinkered by hatred is as pathetic as blinkered by love. Calling Mike Phelan a joke just because he is being suggested as a replacement for Hughton is the reaction of a love-struck teenager. "Riding on Sir Alex's coat tails" no I don't think so. He will have been heavily involved in coaching sessions with the world's best and he cannot fail to have learnt an awful lot from Sir Alex as well. I admit many excellent number two's make very poor managers, Hughton being a prime example, but every candidate for a PL managers' job can be critcised as (a) he has not had PL experience or (b) he failed a PL club ???. Are you saying better the incompetent you know than a possible incompetent you don't know?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Waclor - Sir Bobby?

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    Pierre

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Waclor old chap, I think that you'll find that Grant Holt went to Wigan - a league below - for reasons of realism rather than 'the bigger stage'. He was a legend at City, but that slipped a bit following his transfer request and meager goal return last season. He left a PL club with two more years left on him contract to go up north and play for in the championship. I think GH made the move more for family, age and self-preservation reasons because his days as a PL front line striker were probably numbered anyway. Just my opinion - glad to see things here are moving back to debate about City and not people knocking chunks out of eachother ! OTBC

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    Dubai Canary

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • An honest assessment from a thoroughly decent bloke, Yes, I know that doesn't mean he's a great manager and that he might have to go at some stage but I would love the team to reach their full potential under his managerial time at Carrow Rd. He's generally up front when interviewed and gives a direct response. So many others whinge and moan when things aren't going their way and that's really annoying.

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    Flying Canary

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Hughton has displayed admirable qualities over the last few weeks,a steeliness and resolution.This has been reflected in the team's performance against Palace,West Ham and West Brom,despite injuries to key personnel.With the tough run-in,we need as many points over 20 we can get,starting with Swansea,who,after a visit to Switzerland and a flat performance against Hull will not relish a battle.The Newcastle decision to award Pardew an 8 year contract is starting to bear rewards.Why not something similar for Chris Hughton?On the negative side he owes fans a big debt for the historic achievement of being beaten by non-league Luton,even after '5859.Fulham need beating twice,league and FA Cup.One certain way to get fans onside is a Wembley final.OTBC.

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    Peter Watson

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • 'ncfc boy' I really appreciate your response. "case in point".

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    Lobbo

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Maybe we should start thinking about the January window , what do we need , who should we sign and who should go . Being the season of good will , I have decided to reserve judgement on CH until the new year , but can I just suggest that Colin ( not sure what you offer or why you are here ) Calderwood is one the names on the go list .

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    mjc75

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • In this time of goodwill to all men (...and women LYB!) I thought that despite the constant bickering I would try and identify the single most thing that binds us all together. Well, aside from the unanimous appreciation shown towards the wit and humour of Stew (tongue firmly in cheek just now) it's clear that despite our differences we are all sincerely passionate about our beloved club. Therefore, over the coming weeks lets put our petty differences aside whilst at CR and get firmly behind our team.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Well Mr Gavin, what a memory. I did remark on the sartorial faux-pas of wearing a pullover under a suit in response to criticism of Hughton wearing Saville Row suits. I pointed out that a tailor from Savill Row would demand he return the suit if coupled with a pullover. I don't recall commenting on brown shoes with a navy blue suit but if I did the remarks are consistent. You will also find posts of mine on Hughton's qualities as a gentleman. Whereas finding a gentleman in football management is a rarity, I would suggest that finding a successful gentleman in football management is an impossibility. That may well be the problem. The fact is that football management skills do not appear to be all that transferable from one club to another. Evidence: (a) Only three managers have won the top division title in England with more than one club. (b) Mike Walker was great at Norwich (first time around) but failed at Everton and (c) ask David Moyes. Praising a manager then criticising him then suggesting an extended contract makes somebody balanced? Hm, I would rather have a consistent view. It makes deceion making all the more logical. I do accept LYB's comment about the huge risk in changing a manager though and do not envy Mr McNally having to go through the pro's and cons. However I cannot see our beloved team improving much with Hughton and his cronies at the helm. Under them, the team looks like they expect to lose. Not good really.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Some interesting comments since this morning. I'm pleased to see that Mike Phelan and Malky have been discarded by those with some common sense, as I feel neither would improve our performances. One of my major concerns if the 'Hughton Outers' have their wishes fulfilled, is who is going to replace him?? Sensible answers considered!!

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    Mr Ed

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Funnily enough, Waclor, I wrote a piece after Liverpool when our players were giving them far too much space asking the question whether he had it in him to be aggressive enough to motivate a team properly to get in the oppositions faces. It didn't seem to be a problem last season, but it's been the only real question mark for me, but on the other hand inconsistency during a spell of heavy injuries is possibly to be expected. As you say, time will tell on that one.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • It amazes me that the club's history since 1995 doesn't seem to have taught some people on here anything. From 1995 to Paul Lambert, we had umpteen managers and only broke out of existence in the Championship when Worthington took the helm, was given three seasons, which paid off and got us promotion to the Premier League for a season. Other than that, we were just flailing from manager to manager and not getting anywhere. Hughton was only sacked because he was essentially caretaker at Newcastle while the club was being sold. He was twice manager of the month in his time there. Neither players nor fans wanted him sacked. When he came to Norwich, he'd been managing about two years. Back in the Premier League he got a team in its second season, that was the second cheapest team in the Premier League, home in 11th place. Lambert had the luxury of knowing the team inside out when he got his 12th place. Chris Hughton did not. Having done that he's persuaded some cracking players to join and McNally has backed him. After a stuttering start with a lot of new players in we find ourselves with five wins in fifteen and in touching distance of the top half of the table. By all accounts the guy is a fanatical grafter, constantly working with all levels at the club to get the best he can out of it. He knows his football and is improving as a tactician despite his relative inexperience. But apparently that's not good enough and it's better to roll the dice on a new guy. If we're lucky we'll get someone who'll hold his own until fans like some of you get bored again, then the cycle will repeat, with no guy really getting a chance to really own the position and progress, just make more changes while the club stagnates, until we eventually get the guy who really doesn't know what he's doing who gets us relegated. Bottom line is we don't have the financial clout to make a bid for a Champion's League place any time soon, so why not stick with the guy who's not that experienced, but has demonstrated he can compete in this league, is actively moving from a very defensive 4-2-3-1 to a mixture of 4-1-4-1 and 4-4-2 like so many were screaming they wanted last season, has already delivered half of the wins we got last season in 15 games, a chance to grow as the club grows when he's already good enough to hold his own at the very least? Way better than the merry go round approach in my opinion.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • You got it Cecil. I hope we are both totally wrong as I would very much like Hughton to succeed as Norwich manager especially if he gets himself better coaches (and a new valet).

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • It is not worship, GPL as that would imply mindless faith. Grant Holt was a good goal scorer and a good leader. Was it the right time for him to leave Norwich? Yes probably. We still need to replace his leadership though.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • LYB I would suggest that Old Timer hates CH more than he claims to love Norwich, he falls into the category of those who would like to see Norwich win but oesnt care if they lose because he might get the manager sacked if bad results were often enough. I have said this for ages. CH is doing a damned good job for us. i dont really know what we actually expect of him. Someone actually said on another site that CH wont win him over until he gets 4 or 5 wins in a row. Now thats what i call a no win situation for CH because I think only Arsenal have won 5 in a row in the PL this year. Even the multi million pound team of man City have not managed more than 2 wins on the trot i don't think

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    GPL

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Excellent points by the way Mr Ed.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • I thought he left because of the clause in his contract , the one that allowed him to talk any club that wanted him . When Burnley asked , and our Board told them where to go , he made that clause public knowledge and expressed hs anger at the club for not abiding by it . So when Villa asked and again the Board said no , he left on the grounds that they had not honoured that contract . I'm not stating ths as fact only what my understanding of it is , it could very well be a million miles from the truth but without the club or the man saying otherwise , it's all I've got .

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    mjc75

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Dubai, I was not including Grant's move to Wigan as a bigger stage. I think he relished playing against the bigger teams after a career in the lower divisions. I think he knew the writing was on the wall when Calderwood joined and Hughton went for timid tactics. He looked much fitter in August 2011 than August 2012 for example. He was however a good leader and gee'd up the other players more than anyone now at the club. Teams need that eg Patrick Viera, Roy Keane, John Terry and Dion Dublin etc. I think Jonny Howson will be that figure in time but right now we need a leader on or off the pitch.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Lobbo and ncfcboy. Excellent and very valid points by both - really good to get a worthwhile debate started – we don’t need people calling each other names, but rather respecting each other’s point of view. We are each entitled to our opinions and I've been pretty much in the 'Hughton in camp', mainly because I've not heard anyone come up with a reasonable successor. Considering the injury list (especially Tettey), I think CH has done well, as Tettey, Fer and Howson were forming a bit of a triumvirate in midfield and allowing others in the team more freedom. Totally agree that Sunday is an excellent time to be playing Swansea and hope that the players will be full of confidence and attack from kick-off. We do DEFINITELY need to improve, as all the other teams in the league are doing and I think CH was trying to do this with his summer signings, but has been thwarted by injuries – firstly to Hooper and then RvW – it will be interesting to see if both of them are in the ‘starting 11’ for any of our games; though I’m not sure that that will happen!! By 2nd Jan, I’d like our points total to be more than 25.

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    Mr Ed

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • LYB this just shows how football management skills are not very transferable. There are only three managers who have won the top division in England with two clubs. Look at David Moyes right now, Mike Walker was great here first time around then failed badly at Everton, Roy Hodgson, he.....actually let's not talk about him. On the other hand some can take their incompetence with them ie Mick Mills, Joe Kinnear and Roy Keane. Some failed managers take their incompetence into coaching such as those who Hughton had saddled us with.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • …...Sorry that I have not been able to put you right today, as I normally do, but....I've been busy helping Santa!...He kept saying “HO! HO! HO!”.....What could he mean?... “HO!.HO! HO!”...he just smiled and tweaked the end of his nose....” Everyone”, he said “should realise that CH is the end of Norwich”..... Can any one help me with this riddle?.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Is this news!? Does this drivel really warrant a story!? I know it's tough filling the sports pages every day, and all the stuff is well written, but please find some news value

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    DT

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • waclor,anyone who can get Ipswich to win the UEFA cup has got to be genius, surely. But I do agree with you gentleman managers are not that common...

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    Pierre

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • @Mellow_Yellow - "Therefore, over the coming weeks lets put our petty differences aside whilst at CR and get firmly behind our team". All I can add is "hear, hear!!"

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    Mr Ed

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Perhaps we need personnel with their own agendae. Lambert was a man on a mission and he would always want to make a statement on the biggest stage and I think Grant Holt was the same. Doing well against the bigger teams suited their purpose and they relished the encounters rather than feared them. For now Norwich's swashbuckling days look to be us. Sad.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • GPL, I don't think that thinking that Grant Holt was an amazing force in the club, nor Paul Lambert for that matter, were enormous in the club's history automatically makes someone against Hughton. Certainly not me, in any case. On the subject of Lambert, feeling a little bit sorry for him with some fans at Aston Villa. Accusations of poor team selection, no plan B etc. Sure I've heard that somewhere else, just can't quite put my finger on it. ;-) Would still dearly love to know why he left though. Sure it will come out one of these days.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • oldtimer, two of those four away wins you mentioned were in the eight aways games we've had this season. Doesn't that suggest progress to you? Is judging a manager purely on away performances a rational approach in your opinion?

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Good point Lobbo and yes, ncfcboy's comment is unwarranted and would love to see an 'attacking coach' added to CH's team . I would like to see a return to us competing and trying to win games, rather than trying 'not to lose'. Who knows - it may well happen, but will it unite the fans?? Only time will tell, but I've a feeling it will.

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    Mr Ed

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • It is pointless to suggest different managers on this site as the board are unlikely to sack CH right now. IF and when we reach that point, McNally or indeed his successor will select the next manager, not a fans forum such as this. Lets all be positive on the results front, when we beat Swansea on Sunday CH's position will be even firmer. One thing is for sure from my point of view, I would much rather have an English manager and as many English players as possible in my squad so I would not consider OGS to start with, even if we were looking for a new manager. Meanwhile, lets hope we stick with the same team for the next home game and RVW is fit enough to be on the bench to replace Elmander early on in the second half.

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    TrevorKeith

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Mr Gavin, I just typed a full response which got lost somewhere but to précis, having sartorial standards does not make one unbalanced. I have also commented on Hughton being a gentleman and whereas finding a gentleman managing a football club is a distinct rarity, finding one successfully managing a football club is probably impossible. Could that be the problem? I agree that changing managers is an expensive, disrupting and risky entreprise but sometimes delaying the inevitable can be disasterous. I think we are seeing that the man is not up to the job but time will tell.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • "Don't be fooled by a couple of lucky uninspired wins against hapless opposition, instead look at our goals conceded, attempts on goal and our general standard of play." So what you're saying is, in judging Chris Hughton, don't look at any positive stuff, just look at the negative stuff?

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Thanks for the history lesson, LYB. What we can learn from it is we're not very good at choosing managers; Lambert excepted. Lambert's NCFC were better to watch, that's the main difference. If I were enjoying the football I would not mind CH so much. I don't hate him - what's to hate? but honestly he's witless.

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    Cecil

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • …..Get a Grip for goodness sake Chriss!...how do you know that you are in the so called sack race if you do not read or listen?....Those that contribute on here do so because they can see the things that you are obviously missing....speaking for myself, I don't give a damn who the Manager of Norwich City is, as long as he performs to the best of his ability....That means putting a well prepared team out trained, fit, and in the right frame of mind, ready to play their utmost for Norwich City! ...If that happens every time, criticism will not come into the equation....That has not happened in far too many matches since you joined us....You really must address that issue with urgency!.....It is not an easy task trying to balance a successful career with catering for the needs of a wife and bringing up a family....Many famous people have tried it without success.....You need to have the full support of your wife at home and your colleagues at work!....Your wife and children are a lifetime commitment, for better or worse!.....If you have not made the correct choice of deputies at work then you must take the action to replace them and hope for better judgement next time....Chris the majority of those that currently attend matches, and those that don't, or can't, want you to succeed...Don't rely on others slipping up, and don't let us down!

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • …....Man up! Nice boy!....25 years of age and still living off mum and dad.!....you can't be mollycoddled for ever!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Big Fat Jim, I mostly agree with that. Our survival last season was partly due to some real curveball wins against Man City, Arsenal and Man U. It's been disappointing not having one of those yet this season, although Chelsea looked tantalisingly close at one point during the match. But you're right that we seem to be making more of the bread and butter games on the whole. As the squad gets more meshed, I'm hopeful we'll have some more of the surprise giant-killings that we had under Hughton last season again this season. I like the attacking coach idea, although I think things are pointing to that issue coming good this season over time with both superior strikers, more attacking midfielders, and a move away from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-4-1 and 4-4-2 double six. I think our goal tally is going to be a lot better at the end of this season. By the same token, I think our defence is definitely more vulnerable than it was last season. I think that's from them struggling with the added pressure of less cover from holding midfielders. They did better against West Brom defensively, albeit with a one or two scary individual gaffes like Olsson's 'clearance' across the penalty area in front of West Brom players coming forward. Hopefully that will improve as they get used to shouldering more of the defensive burden though. Failing that, the transfer window's not far off now. More consistency in work-rate from the team is definitely needed, The way they were backing off when Liverpool had the ball was truly unacceptable While the manager should be motivating the players without doubt I think players that earn more in a year than I probably will in a lifetime to play for us have to shoulder a fair bit of responsibility for their own motivation themselves.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • A question for Peter Watson, are you related to Chris Hughton by any chance? What kind of lunacy would it be to offer that man an extended contract? Yes he has got some a few results along with the thrashings and it is true that beating a lower team one nil then getting thrashed seven nil by one of the big six is better for the league position than two goalless draws. However is this the way forward? His team always looks likely to concede a goal and gives no confidence whatsoever. Remember neither Mike Phelan nor Ole Gunnar Soskjaer has ever been fired for incompetence like Hughton has and soon will be again.

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    waclor

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Hi 'Mr Ed', Hughton 'in' , Hughton 'out' , what will be will be, but it's 'ncfc boy's "you are so blinkered by your hatred of the management you are missing the football", type statement that's unacceptable. I'm not responding to him because it's total 'tosh', but it's the sort of thing that causing forums to deteriorate.

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    Lobbo

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • In the cold light of day and picking up on contributions for the likes of LYP and Mr Ed, to me we are in the progression period. I was 100% for CH when appointed then wavered due to some results and now I feel we are seeing progression, albeit slowly. Since day one I doubt CH has been able to field the team he wanted due to injuries and that is still the case. Reviewing the games and more importantly how the players have performed we have had glaring fall in contribution from the likes of Snodgrass, Bassong, Ruddy, we now sit 4 points above the bottom 3 and 2 points from top ten place with 15 games played. On the positive side if at the start of the season you were told we would be 2 points of top ten with 15 games played would you have refused it? Is CH the man to take us forward I am again willing to see how the outcome is over the December period but for now yes I will back CH. I have not as yet read on any board here a viable alternative to bring in to replace him; I do not think Mike Phelan would be a good candidate mainly because although No.2 to Sir Alex he has not experienced and backroom position apart from Man U and we are a million miles away from there. The December fixture give us a good opportunity to pick up the points with 3 home games remaining, yes one is Man U but they way they are plating in the league could we have another Carrow Road upset? OTBC

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    Singapore Canary

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • 25? Living at home? What are you on about now?

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    ncfc boy

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Waclor, the reason Mike Phelan has never been sacked from a management job is that he has never had one. And appointing Soskjear would be a step into the unknown, which I don't think is Mr. McNally's way of doing things. As for Peter Watson, if you have a look back through his posts I think you'll find that he's been critical of CH just as often as he's praised him, which to my mind makes him a reasonably balanced individual. An assessment which, with your remarks about CH wearing a pullover with a suit, or - the shame of it - brown shoes with same suit, could never be applied to your good self.

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    Johnny Gavin Lives

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Sky Bet have Malky co-favourite with CH for the sack. They also have him clear favourite to be the next Norwich manager. So is it all us fans, or just fans who gamble who are completely dotty?

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    Pierre

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • No sympathy for our rivals? Really Chris? Judging by your pre-match interviews you're their most ardent supporter !

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    Timbo

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Don't try debating with logic against illogical people LYB. Most of them sound like my geriatric mother. And she likes cats.

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    powelld123

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • To all the posters who say, be happy, because we're "punching above our weight" and "accept things the way they are and rejoice", I say, if any business, whether it's manufacturing, retail, service or a football team, doesn't make the effort to improve and move forward, they will effectively go backwards as their rivals improve. It's been said many times that all NC fans are entitled to an opinion. Debate means having different points of view. You tell me something that makes me think (and learn) and I tell you something that makes you think the same. I personally feel that certain people can't be bothered to post their "personal" opinions anymore and I could easily go the same way. Then you would have all like minded people agreeing with each other. Marvelous hey..... On a different note, playing Swansea in their 3rd match in 6 days, and after an away trip to Switzerland mid week might just be a good time to get them. Especially at home. It would be good to win this one well.

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    Lobbo

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

  • Hughton out, Pep in!

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    PaulWho

    Wednesday, December 11, 2013

  • Oh and another thing. The comment about Mike Phelan being out of work and availlable. Mr Phelan has applied for every job going as soon as it comes up and has been so far unsuccesful in those applications so he is out of work for a reason

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    GPL

    Tuesday, December 10, 2013

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