Norwich City’s worst ever top-flight start

Norwich City had no answer to Luis Suarez as they went down 5-2 at home to Liverpool. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images Norwich City had no answer to Luis Suarez as they went down 5-2 at home to Liverpool. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images

Tuesday, October 2, 2012
10:55 AM

Norwich City need to recover from their poorest start to a top-flight season if they are to climb the Premier League table.

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Saturday’s 5-2 home defeat by Liverpool left the Canaries in the bottom three with just three points from a possible 18.

In 23 seasons in either Division One or the Premier League, stretching back four decades, it is only the second time City have failed to win any of their first six matches – though they have had two victories in the League Cup.

The last time it happened was in 2004-05, when Nigel Worthington’s team did not register a victory until their 14th match, but their start was fractionally better with four draws in the first six games, compared to three draws this time.

Manager Chris Hughton must prepare his side for the trip to leaders and European champions Chelsea on Saturday, followed by a visit from Arsenal a fortnight later – not the ideal opposition as City search for that first league win.

After the Liverpool defeat, he said: “You’re always concerned the longer it goes, the longer it is without that first win, but you have to get a response and demand a response from the players, irrespective of where the game is. Whether it’s here or whether it’s away from home, whether it’s top of the table or whatever, you have to look for a response.”

But he added that there was a very long way to go for the Canaries. He said: “This season is not over. It’s not about six, seven, eight or 10 games. It’s about a season’s worth of games and we need to make sure we’re picking up the points, the sooner the better.”

At the same stage last season, City were ninth in the table with eight points from the first six games on their return to the Premier League. They finished 12th in May.

In 2004-05, Worthington’s team took until November 20 to record their first win, beating Southampton 2-1 at Carrow Road.

They were eventually relegated, finishing 19th, despite winning four of their last seven games.

• POINTS AFTER FIRST SIX GAMES IN A TOP-FLIGHT SEASON

• Division One (2 points for a win)

1972-73: 8

1973-74: 5

1975-76: 6

1976-77: 3

1977-78: 6

1978-79: 7

1979-80: 8

1980-81: 4

• Division One (3 points for a win)

1982-83: 6

1983-84: 5

1984-85: 6

1986-87: 11

1987-88: 7

1988-89: 13

1989-90: 10

1990-91: 6

1991-92: 7

• Premier League (3 points for a win)

1992-93: 13

1993-94: 11

1994-95: 9

2004-05: 4

2011-12: 8

2012-13: 3

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24 comments

  • this article is factual and statistical.3. points from 6 games. predictive time based on stats. Add in 2 games against Man U, Man C, Chelsea ,Arsenal and add in 15 points from the remaining away games, my bad math leaves us needing at least 22 points from 12 home games. YES thats possible , but the 15 away points are a cause for concern as every one not got shoves up the home need.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Wednesday, October 3, 2012

  • Good to see the comparison between this season and 0405 has been made. This is a real sense of de ja vu - a bit of effort, drawing games we should be seeing out for wins and getting a few hammerings along the way. And we all know what happens when you have a season like that; relegation. Despite the start we've had, and I feel as frustrated as the rest of you (there is no worse feeling than actually being embarrassed by your team) we must remember it is just that - the start of the season. I do wonder how many of 'Hughton out gang' were the very same that were celebrating his arrival with joy?? Oh and by the way do we all love Holty again now he's scored a goal?

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    Gavin

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • So you're making the huge assumption that your tragic team will beat the drop themselves then, Wark? PS: Speaking of grossly inflated wage bills, I see Bullard's retired. Judging by his performances for you mugs, I thought he'd actually retired about 2 years ago + he'd settled for ambling slowly round the pitch like a vicar @ a country fair . Still, nice of your invisible charman to pay his mortgage off for him...

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    Timbo

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • My son is a fairly pragmatic football journalist, and his view is that for once McNally got it wrong in allowing CHs defensive negative thinking to dominate the pre-season buying, and almost criminally wrong in not recognising the need to buy a 20 goal a season striker. OK Jordan Rhodes was over-priced, and untested, but sometimes, as Paul Lambert proved, fortune favours the brave.

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    Algarve Canary

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Ref the prickly exchanges `twixt Algarve & Yachtie (the Itchy & Sratchy of footy?), my son is a biologist and he agrees with Algarve`s journalist son`s `pragmatic` view. Which shows that, statistically, journalists know as little about football as biologists. But at least scientists are....scientific. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, October 5, 2012

  • Unfortunately for you Tash, Holt has signed for 3 years which means if we relegated you will have to endure him again. Perhaps you'd better hope you get relegated too so you can try and pick on someone your own size. Colchester.

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    B Inners

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Yes we have started the season with a poor run of results,apart from the Spurs game which shows we can mix it with some of the big boys,but all the doom mongers just look at QPR they have spent far more than City and look what they have achived so far,yes we need to start banging the goals in but it will come,have some faith and lets support the team and the manager i believe it will come good,OTBC

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    ncfcforever

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Besides being bloody rude....does Yellow Yachtie actually have anything useful to contribute???

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    Algarve Canary

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Pa Snipps has it - we miss Culverhouse et al. Bewilderwood is no replacement and is not on Holty`s Christmas card list! Calderdash has a Stella CV. No, I didn`t mean Stellar!

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, October 5, 2012

  • Warkys_Tash - thank goodness you're lot are having such a good season. Otherwise you might look just a tad daft posting comments like that eh.....

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    Gavin

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • You don't have to be a journo to recognise that there are problems. Not insurmountable, but worrying enough to have fans and experts everywhere concerned. While those who just look at the stats have a quantitative view, those, like me, who have endured trips to Hull and Fulham away and watched last Saturday at home, know qualitatively that we are struggling to get up to the standard needed. We only appear to be able to draw at our best and lose otherwise. The next three games are going to be tough. So, it's time for the tough to get going... and I'd rather that was on the pitch and not out of the door.

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    Robin Hood

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Please all of you get real it is much to early to start worrying we knew it would be hard and I think it would have been no different for PL if he had stayed at City. I think personally we should have sold Holt and used the money to get another striker onboard. We have money we should have used it and taken a gamble. We have what we have lets get on with it we have played some good football at times this season and there are games where the defence have been solid so we have the basis give it time and I am sure we will be ok.

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    The General

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Ref the usefulness of Yachtie`s contributions, at least they are his own, presumably?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, October 5, 2012

  • Binners, I am sure all Town fans will welcome the sight of Holt & co back at PR next season. The Norwich City board, will be hoping this is not the case with the over inflated wage bill hanging over City. But you may also wish Holt hadn't signed a 3 year deal as you might also end up enduring a faded hero for the next 3 years. Most of the so-called fans are now saying he is not the same player..

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    Warkys_Tash

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • And what do you make of the dog's breakfast pretending to be management down Portaloo Road way Wark? Do tell...?

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    Timbo

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Algarve, did fortune favour the brave a week and a half ago when Villa lost 5-1 to Southampton? I was as keen on Lambert as the next man or woman, but I don't think we should be building the pedestal too high ...

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    Johnny Gavin Lives

    Wednesday, October 3, 2012

  • Should have kept Adam Drury, think he would have made a better job on Suarez.

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    tom the taxi

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • After this long absence, they still ether me regularly. B****x to it!

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, October 5, 2012

  • Look at it like this together! We could have signed all of the men on you wish list, during the summer—but we didn't. So we have to get on with it. The squad on paper should be stronger this season than last. We have a new manager who has replaced his over-rated predecessor, we have lost the brains involved at Colney, they are now with Villa. Coaching replacements chosen by the new manager do not produce a team with the same desire,..in fact there is no team any more, just lost souls running around aimlessly. They are mostly the same men, if you include the bench, their abilities are still there , but the names being drawn out of the hat for the games, need seriously looking at.... 95 % of you know the team and the formation they should be playing. Why doesn't the manager? SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

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    Pa Snipps

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Algarve Canary, Jordan Rhoes is a Blue.. he would have never signed for City. I did predict this mess a few months back, a summer of discontent (Lambert & Holt), followed by a season of struggle and likely relegation. Do you think Mr Lambert had a crystal ball?

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    Warkys_Tash

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Ahh great to hear Algarve bringing his families superior 'journalistic' knowledge back into the discussion. Its been a while.......

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    The Yellow Yachtie

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • The season will not be won or lost in the next 2 games but improvement is needed to win games.Time to keep the faith.We will know more next easter.

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    Peter Watson

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • I was feeling generally depressed about how the season was going; now I am feeling accurately and precisely depressed.

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    Swiss Canary

    Tuesday, October 2, 2012

  • Ref the usefulness of Yachtie`s contributions, at least they are his own, presumably?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, October 5, 2012

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