Norwich City midfielder Leroy Fer touted with £8m QPR move; plus reports Andrew Surman set for Bournemouth

Norwich City midfielder Leroy Fer has been touted with a £8m exit to QPR. 
Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Norwich City midfielder Leroy Fer has been touted with a £8m exit to QPR. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Saturday, August 16, 2014
7:59 PM

Norwich City boss Neil Adams insisted he did not want to lose Leroy Fer after the midfielder’s return in Saturday’s 3-0 Championship win over Watford amid reports Premier League QPR are closing in on an £8m deal for the Dutch international.

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Andrew Surman set for Cherries reunion?

Norwich City midfielder Andrew Surman has been linked with a permanent move to Bournemouth.

Neil Adams was non-commital when pressed on why Surman was not involved for the Canaries in Saturday’s 3-0 Championship win over Watford but reports later that evening claimed the midfielder is on the verge of a return to the Cherries, where he enjoyed a successful loan stint last season.

Adams made it clear throughout pre-season he was keen to keep Surman, who is approaching the final year of his current Carrow Road deal and Surman played in the opening weekend’s 1-0 league defeat at Wolves but the 27-year-old had made no secret of the fact he wants regular football at this stage of his career.

Skysports claimed on Saturday evening, just hours after his second half cameo at Carrow Road, that Fer is set for Loftus Road with Rangers’ chief Harry Redknapp making no secret of his desire to recruit Fer earlier this summer.

City have reportedly accepted QPR’s offer with Fer potentially primed to undergo a medical as early as Monday to rubber-stamp a deal that would eclipse the club-record departure of Robert Snodgrass to Hull City.

Fer was the last Norwich player to depart at the final whistle after making a point of applauding all four corners of the ground, but Adams was still hopeful of keeping the Dutchman when he spoke immediately after his side’s 3-0 victory against the 10-man Hornets.

“Of course we want to keep him,” he said. “He is not up to 100% like the rest of the squad because he was busy over the summer. It was great to get him on. He wanted to play, we got him just over 20 minutes, which was great for him and when he was on the ball he showed his quality.

“He is a top player. Leroy hasn’t said anything to me about where he sees his future. These things don’t tend to go between player and manager these days. It is all done by agents and those above me in the club.

“I’ve said all along my position would not change. Who in their right mind would open the door to let Leroy Fer go out? We have to accept that business is business and if, and when, the right offer came along we would have to consider that. It hasn’t at the minute.

“The crowd showed their appreciation when he came on and we all want him to be a Norwich City player but we’ll deal with anything that may arise as and when it happens.”

Fer joined Norwich 12 months ago from FC Twente and scored three goals in 29 Premier League appearances to earn a place in Holland’s World Cup squad where he scored in the 2-0 group win over Chile before a hamstring injury curtailed his later involvement for the Dutch who went on to finish third.

City have already sanctioned departures for Snodgrass and Anthony Pilkington this summer, with Gary O’Neil, Kyle Lafferty and Lewis Grabban coming in the opposite direction.

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114 comments

  • I am no fan of Delia Smith and co I want to see the gone they are only in it for the money that they make becauces they no it costs are to high for them to in be in the premiership it eats into they own share of profits .

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    DOBBY1970

    Friday, August 22, 2014

  • Lics canary, you say the club and board would be happy to be in the championship becauces they don't have the financial muscle . They said that there is nobody out there with the money what rubbish there have been clubs take over ever seasonl Delia just don't want anyone to take over this club that can do a far better job she knows nothing about running a football club it was a stop cap for her failing tv career .

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    DOBBY1970

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • Didn`t Chairperson Hyacinth also play a role in driving out the `impatient` Lambert and the `too old` Holt? Is Hyacinth Norwich`s answer to Prince `Diplomat` Phillip? Or is he just as he seems to be; a pompous vvaIIy?

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • borderman

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • “He is a top player. Leroy hasn’t said anything to me about where he sees his future. These things don’t tend to go between player and manager these days. It is all done by agents and those above me in the club. What is this? The manager has no say and no communication with his player? Where does the Footballing Board fit into this communication shambles? I found this paragraph really concerning...

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    Surrey Canary

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • PS Fer was driver Away by insensitive comments by our chaiman at the end of season dinner!

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    borderman

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • Chase was forward thinking he had the colney training ground built, purchased land round carrow road that delia and co sold for a massive profit, we had to sell players to balance the books as we have always done- BYE,BYE Fer!

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    borderman

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • Your question about last January is a good one Thai. For late converts like me that was the time when we all saw, writ large on the wall, "Hughton must go". By then only the board were not reading the wall. Would some quality signings have saved us? That begs the further question of whether Hughton would have brought the best from them. As for Delia keeping us afloat I think we were close to administration when by luck or good judgement Lambert arrived and produced a miracle. Since his departure the rollercoaster has begun moving downwards again. However, Delia and the board no longer have the debt to concern them but how much are they concerned about the football? I think the concerns you read on here are that they might be tempted to stay in the calm waters of the Champ. Why? Because as owners they do not have the financial muscle for the PL.

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    Lincs Canary

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • I agree with The Gerbil's comments. Mr Fer has had his head turned by agents. I am sure many of us would have our heads turned if we were offered to earn several thousands more per week. The criticism of Delia is totally out of order as her wealth kept this club afloat. I do not blame the board for there cautious approach and keeping a tight ship. I rather suspect that players and agents are have far more influence than we are led to believe. Yes I want to see NCFC succeed but not at the expense of foolish house keeping. We have seen many great clubs (Rangers, Portsmouth, Ipswich , Leeds to name but few) to put there future at risk to pay greedy players. NCFC big mistake goes back to last January transfer window when they should have strengthened. Who do we blame ? The board for not supporting Houghton or Hughton himself not seeing the cracks. OTBC

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    Thaicanary

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • Here's a pleasant thought. Delia has proved year on year that she knows nothing about running a football club and we as supporters have paid a heavy price with only one successful managerial appointment out of the last five. The Board decided they would repay all the club's debts rather than stay in the Premiership and that included Delia getting all her loans repaid and retaining the majority shareholding. The unloading of our most highly valued players is a worrying trend and if Fer was to be sold and not replaced it suggests to me a lack of ambition with cash in the bank and Championship football preferable to the spotlight and brickbats of the Premiership. Unless of course the Board is attempting to make the balance sheet look as good as possible in readiness to sell up and earn top dollar for their shares. Personally I can't wait to see her go. I thank her for what she has done, but she is well past her sell by date and the entire Board is totally out of its depth in the Premiership. As I said, just food for thought.

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    jigs69

    Monday, August 18, 2014

  • My abiding memory of Mr Chase is driving towards Carrow Bridge one late afternoon and seeing him scowling at some new railings the club had shelled out for near the River end . There was a metaphor there which I have groped for unsuccessfully ever since . Good to hear Neil's new PA is a former weather-girl , she'll be used to regular depressions making there way through then . And unsettled atmospheres . And frosty ones . I think we'd better stop the weather puns there .

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    Bring on Foggo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Oh dear I seem to have hit on a thorny issue, with regards to Lincs I agree but for Borderman to call Chase a legend is rubbish. Short memories spring to mind here, at one point at Xmas we were third 8 points clear and playing some tasty football ok we finished a very respectful third, and had it not been for the European ban would have qualified. Instead of pushing on for next season and buying 2 or 3 quality players for a genuine push for the title he sold are best players the rest is history. At the end of the day that man nearly brought the club to its knees and had it not been for a few generous benefactors we would have gone to the wall. What we achieved in Europe was brilliant but remember we reached the third round, so to any Chase lovers stop looking at his tenure through rose tinted specs. I hope I am wrong but were in danger of heading down that same road. OTBC

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    Bald Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Chase was a leach who sold everything in sight, got us relegated selling Ashley Ward and one of the best centre halves we ever had in John Newsome. Reluctantly he fired puppet Megson and appointed Martin O'Neill as manager before he found him impatient (ring a bell anyone) because he wanted to buy Dean Windass. O'Neill took Leicester up instead and the rest is miserable history. When Chase finally left, guess what? There was no money left and nobody has ever explained where it went. Great guy huh?

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    waclor

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Robert Chase didn't 'let Walker go to Everton' Walker walkered out, Chase is a legend and a 'Gent' driven out by ungrateful, ignorant idiots! HIS ACHiEVEMENTS WILL NEVER BE BEATEN.

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    borderman

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • With some trepidation, Bald Canary, I would point out that during the Chase era we "suffered" 3 x top five finishes, a best ever nine successive seasons in the top flight and European football. Not that I am in denial on how it panned out. The players sold during that era included Woods, Bruce, Gordon, Townsend, Phelan, Drinkell, Fleck, Sutton, Fox. And he let Mike Walker go to Everton. It took time but eventually the loss of talent cost us dear. Since Delia took the reins we have had a brief flurry of success with Worthy and something special with Lambert. All told however it has been too rollercoaster to feel like an "era", more like an eternal bedding in.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • There is no doubt Leroy is premiership quality, I am not convinced he wants to leave, especially to QPR, but with the Dutch connection at Man Utd I would be more worried - but he would deserve that opportunity!! Hopefully he will stay and that will show committment from the board to return to the top level. £12 million minimum!! Not to bothered on Pilkington or Surman think they PL fringe players at best, see Brighton have picked up another decent Dutch player, where are our scouts??? OTBC.

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    johnnyp

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I have no faith in "the Board" aka the hand crankers. If NA can achieve promotion despite them he will be a Norwich City legend. All the best Neil

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I repeat:Jayne Mansfield got the job.

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • This smacks of the Robert Chase era we all had to suffer. What happened to we do not need to sell any of our players philosophy, that soon went out of the window. As for LF why would he want to go to a league 1 outfit who for reasons beyond me find themselves for a season in the PL. I would be amazed if their still in the PL 37 games from now. We need to beef up the squad not not chip away at it, the next few days are going to be interesting regarding the future aspirations of this board and NCFC. If they decide to stick then its going to be a painful season, a manager cant manage a team with one arm tied behind his back.

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    Bald Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Tried to reference your original bosom reference, `Bring on Foggo`; but repeatedly blocked by the blockheads.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • For a club the size of Norwich there comes a point when the money is worth more than the player. When that point is reached it makes sense to sell him.

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    California Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Hey, LincsCan, do you think McCauley`s decendants might include Archie? I share your cynicism about the Board. As for Egyptian`s postulate about "wealth envy", he must be off with the Pharaohs. They were so wealth obsessed they actually did take it with them.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I bet MichiCan remembers that pop lyric "Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow" - from "Brimful of Asha" by Corner Shop... Btw; tea making duties have been taken over by a `60s "Goblin Teasmade" from Ye Carra Charity Shoppe. Mrs. Doyle failed the interview.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Archie being really obstructive again. all I wanted to do was reminisce a little about past players. Also that the weather lady, Carol Kirkwood, has taken the `comforting bosom` role. Two warm fronts guaranteed.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Just for the record I do not want to see Leroy Fer sold to QPR or anybody else for that matter. As I have stated on here before we should tell barra boy ' Arry we start at 12Mill. Or better still make it plain that he is NOT for sale. So go away.

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    Egyptian canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • John Manning at the far post heading over to Hugh Curran at the near post, goal. How did it used to go, "Come all without, come all within, you've not seen nothing like big John Manning."

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • p.s. mustn't forget Ser, better to be a big fish in a small pond, pity to lose him but he's never going to be first choice, our squad is too strong. Thanks and good luck, it's a nice part of the world to take the family.

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    cutty

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • We all recognise trolls when we see them, but beware of the well intentioned malcontents from within. Neil isn't a puppet he's a realist, of course he's going to say he wants to keep Fer, what else can he say. Of course Fer going to say nice things, he's a nice bloke. But a £1m p.a. pay-rise, plus Prem football which he needs to retain international status, it's a no brainer. We can't deny him the opportunity to better himself, good luck lad. Neil will manage and we'll survive.

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    cutty

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Ron Davies and Hugh Curran two others from the sixties.

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    Pondlife

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I must state that I am not one of these football fans that think football is the only thing in life and nothing else matters .I was a surpporter of city for the last 35 years and have seen all the ups and downs made by this board most of them have been down . But when this board got up they always was screwed it up again but I've had snuff and never renewed my ticket and will never return until till Delia and co are gone.

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I too have some good memories of the sixties MB, and you name some talented players. Special memory of a 6-0 against Stoke, including Stanley Matthews The frustration through that period was how the hope generated by McCauley floundered as the years went on. Ron Davies went to Southampton as I recall. A fine player. We had the same problem in those days of keeping players, perhaps more understandable because of the debt. Seem to recall a real fuss about Jim Oliver (?) being sold to Newcastle. El dingo, I am a cynic. I don't trust any board to do what's right on the pitch. Or off it in many cases

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Surely the board have to accept the money offered. Let's face it when did Fer offer any more than expectation. I can't remember one game when he set the game alight or showed the skill to motivate the team. The worrying thing is that Adams is now sitting in the back row when it comes to getting players in. What happened to the committee set up to evaluate new players, where is our much heralded head of recruitment - or is he under the control of the board as well.

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    VictorM

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Thanks Dubai. I am not a pauper but will never envy the rich. Swiss: that's some theory - hope you're right:)

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I believe that the club is trying to build a sustainable PL outfit that is going to be ahead of the game when it comes to operating within the financial fair-play rules. I also believe that we will go straight back up but to do that we need to have a squad of sufficient quality to survive for the first 1-2 seasons back in the PL and one that has the drive to do it. If we are going to go straight back up we need players like Leroy Fer to get us there and maintain us, we need more options in defence and a physically strong midfield. I think that Lafferty and Grabban were two really good buys but I want to see us building out that PL team now and Neil Adams getting a fire lit under them. You cannot buy in a bunch of low to mid-priced strangers and hope that they will carry you on in the PL straight away. Blackburn are on a good run but if we get them on the back foot and beaten about 2-0 we will be set up very well for next weekend and the season to come.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Well said Dingo. It is not a case of being jealous of their money - I have no idea how much DMcN is worth and I don't care. The point here is the disconnect between running a good business (which they do very well) and running a successful football club. This is where the risk vs reward is challenged. City showed great ambition last season giving CH £30M to spend on team strengthening and look what happened. We got relegated and now we are reeling. It has not been a good past 12 months or so for the club, but we need to make sure that lessons are learned and that we bounce back strong. That is why selling Fer does not make any sense. At least hold him until January, see where we are in the table, and if we have completely bombed our chances of promotion by then, sell him on for £15M+. OTBC

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    Dubai Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • If Fer wants away then best to let him go and take the money , there is NO point in hanging on to players who are unsettled here - far better to take the usual NCFC route of using the money to buy in some keen firebrand from lower leagues and play him instead . Very disturbing to hear that these decisions are being made " by those higher in the club " just as I was by McNally appearing to chair the club-of-five team management " committee " we appear to have now . Or is that just a genuine support effort to take some of the strains off a neophyte manager until he has learned the ropes ? One question that appears to have been forgotten is Who is Adams new P A + secretary ? Vital role there in providing tea , sympathy , screening , mother-hen--ing , and a comforting bosom to weep into discreetly in fraught moments . As well as all the office stuff . Anyone know who got the job ?

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    Bring on Foggo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • We in the UB were delighted with the win yesterday - until Leroy began his farewells. Respect to Leroy Fer. First win in yonks and still a miserable walk home. Thanks to the Board. And to the gent who thinks posters who disapprove of the Board are jealous of their money, I at least am not. I can afford salt AND vinegar.

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I feel that Norwich will end up back in division one the board will do the same thing as before sell all of the players and end up there . Delia and co would play all fringe players and sell all top players to save money if they could get away with it the only way to get shot of this board mite to go down again the we hope then she would sell up and good ridens.

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • LincsCan; the 60s was the era of Bryceland, Lucas, Bolland, Punton, Keelan, Stringer et al. I remember we did have a "Star" in the person of Ron Davies, but we cashed in on him for little profit. Though it was not a hugely successful period, I still enjoyed it. Nostalgia`s not the same any more... It`s all about expectations. Once the fans had sampled exciting times in the old 1st Division and then the Prem, the bar was raised. We`ve had doldrums times since Worthy`s brief sortie into the Prem: Roeder, Grant, Gunn, L1. Most of the fans still turned up anyway. Then along came Lambo. A miracle. The off went Lambo and in came Hughton. The club showed some ambition and sizeable chunks of money were spent. Despite that, we faltered again. I have to accept that Neil is not a manager in the `Fergie style`, or even the Lambo style. He is a very good 1st Team Coach in his own style. I suppose he is admitting to being a coach rather than a manager by the comments he makes. The Big Picture is managed by the Big People. Not footy professionals. I wish Adams well. Perhaps `Youth` is our future. He knows a bit about our young players, after all.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Respect Dubai - your Wtf gets through and mine doesn't:)

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • @Lincs: Do you honestly trust the Board to do what is right for the Club o the pitch?

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • So the board desided to appoint a yes man as manager so they can sell anyone if the price is right with a manager who say nothing no matter what Neil Adams says.the board are only interested in millions in the bank this board and business man and woman who are interest is making money as long as the get a full house at home they do not care what the fans want. This club will stay in this league for some time until Delia Smith and the other board member are gone.

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • We are not the only team shedding players - Cardiff and Fulham have lost more. Last season Wigan kept most of their best players but failed to go up. QPR would have sold more players except their inflated wages made them unsaleable. As for us ever stagnating ten years in this league(Dubai) - I lived through that in the sixties (I must unearth the programmes to recall some of the nonentities who played). I have my concerns but let's allow the window to run its course and see who has left\arrived. Re NA, if "putting his head on the block" means publicly criticising the board or even walking out Pulis style, what would that achieve? The board will still be there. NA is there to manage the team. His tenure will be decided by results, not some noble revolutionary gesture.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I agree mostly, "New Dubai". But I doubt there will be any problem in shifting the tickets. `Footy Day` is more than just a way of life; it is life itself to many.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Beating 1p5wich next Saturday will be the most important thing on that day, but really as a NCFC there is much more 'bigger picture' issues going on here. ITFC have become what we don't ever want to become, a dull, poorly supported, mid-table Championship team where they have been languishing unspectacularly for the last decade or so. Sure it will be great to put ten goals past them this season on the way back up to the PL, but what people are alluding to here is ambition, or lack of it. It the Club (Board, CEO, NA) on the same page when it comes to good fiscal management balanced against good ambitious football management. First we hear Relegation would be 'worse than death', then we hear that 'we don't have to sell players'. Yesterday we heard that our manager does not have a say so in transfer dealings because 'it is done by agents and those up above'. WTF ? This is BS and everyone knows it. DMcN has been very quiet lately but if City don't deliver on the pitch this season then they could lose the trust and the goodwill of the fans. These are worrying times and it would be good to see NA put his neck on the block and gain some respect and control of the situation.

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    Dubai Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Why have some of you taken a dislike to Delia, the rest of the board, and David McNally ? It seems tome some of you are and, never will be satisfied. These are the very people that saved us from oblivion a few years ago. But, then is it petty jealousy about wealth.

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    Egyptian canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I've consistently supported McNally and the board on this site and have been classified as one of the "happy clappers" as a consequence, but I have to say that if Fer goes (especially to QPR) I will be firmly in the "this board has no ambition" camp. Leroy, by all accounts is not pressing for a move and Adams claims to want him to stay. With him in midfield we will be a force in this division, and, more crucially in my view, we will not be able to attract players of his calibre while we are in the Championship. Wake up McNally and Man-up Adams or we're in for a long stay out of the Prem.

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    Canary on the moon

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • So at least we know now that Adams has to play the part of a sycophantic puppet to the board and is not the manager. How can our board be so arrogant - how do they know the value of a player to the squad or the market value.They just have a lay mans view of the value of a player. Perhaps the board can explain whether we are going to replace the latest three players earmarked to leave and who they are likely to be. With three going and the money that has come into the club they need to come up with a couple of decent players to appease the fans.

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    VictorM

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • And 8m is a joke, 14 plus for starters.

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    lordbesty

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Tend to agree cutty. NA has in any case chosen his words carefully and said decisions these days are made between agents and those above him. It leaves us to read between the lines.He could of course "man up" and walk out but where would that leave us? Looking for the board who some say only want a "yes" man to appoint a "no" man. Sack the board then? Sure, and bring in the kind of owners to whom you sell the club's soul.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Personally, I think Leroy would be ok to stay for the season, he obviously digs the region enough to get hitched here. It boils down to whether the board except an offer or not, nothing else, Adams even stated as much. I would be gutted to see him go, especially to a smaller tin pot club like qpr, that would be embarrassing. Hopefully if the board except an offer Leroy could always reject the contract and stay but I don't see it. We'd better buy a quality replacement or my patience will run even thinner than it already is, with the board that is. Always love my team. Oh yeah, the ipsh!t trolls are a bit quiet this weekend ha ha.

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    lordbesty

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Sorry..meant Cutty!

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    Irish canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • City..these are NA's own words “It is all done by agents and those above me in the club." That's not a manager who has a say in the clubs transfer policy

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    Irish canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Forgive me if I have got this wrong but I don't seem to recall Fer saying, at anytime, that he wants to leave. In fact, all indications have been that he wants to stay and help get the club back to the PL. Everyone on here seems to believe its already a done deal. Take a break guys and have a walk in the fresh air. Nothing is done until signed sealed and delivered. Until then lets enjoy the win of yesterday and the way in which it was achieved. Still some work to be done but overall a good game for the lads and some classy goals!! Onwards and upwards otbc

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    Canarygirl

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Of course a manager has a say in what players come or go, but the board has the final word. A manager is what the name says, he manages, and no manager gets exactly what he wants, I say again, he manages. If there's a really big disagreement he's sacked or he walks and what's happening at City is predictable and not earth shattering. I think under Neil we'll see decent football, enjoy that and stop moaning.

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    cutty

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Two posts blocked so far. Ok, really short one. City in with £1.2m bid for Cameron Jerome.

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    Lincs Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • NCFC lack ambition NA is being treated shabbily by a board who only seem interested in counting the millions coming into the club. Then expect NA to get results and promotion on the cheap excuse the pun.. Disgraceful. Watch this space when Redmond is sold next week along with Bunn. Bassong. Becchio and probably Surman. Mr McNally and the board have a duty to explain to the loyal fans which way the is club is heading. They have already shot themselves in the foot last season surely they would have learned from their mistakes. ALAS IT APPEARS NOT!

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    Essex yellow

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • We managed to go three goals up without the assistance of Mr Fer. I have no love for QPR, particularly as I have a really gobby colleague who is a fan. To me they represent everything wrong with English football. A club full of ageing, overpaid mercenaries, operating at a level not warranted by their support but made possible by the indulgence of their wealthy foreign owner. However, Tony Fernades was crystal clear that they were going straight back up last season and they kept hold of the squad they needed to do that. I don't quite see that crystal clarity here. However, I do remember Delia and Michael putting their money at risk to save this club and sticking with it, so I agree with Andy. The long-term plan that DMcN shared is that we become a sustainable Premier League club in the mid-term, which may include going back to the Championship and getting promoted again. I believe that will happen and that is bigger than any individual player. Yes I want to keep Leroy and don't want him to go to QPR. There are probably better options for him and Norwich if he is to leave. It seems that there is only one thing that everyone agrees on that makes us happy and that is beating Ipswich Town. That day is just a week away now.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Spot on, Irish. Who`s Snodgrass?

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Derek - I can't agree with your view. Any football club that has ambition (on the football field) has to leave transfer decisions to the Manager (or at the very least involve him) It's becoming clear that if we had employed an experienced man, and then treated him as we are now treating NA, he would already have walked. What manager would risk his reputation with a club who would not give him a say in his playing staff? Only last week, Surman was being touted as a key player by NA, now he's on his way out! I hope NA is a great success..but if he is then he will surely move on to a club where he can choose his own personnel..right now he needs first team experience, so has to tow the party line

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    Irish canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Spot on SO, we won the game yesterday before Fer got on the pitch. Yes he is a good player and surely wants to play in the top leagues so who could blame him for wanting away if that is the case. He only joined us because we were in the Premiership, now we are not. We have seen many stars come and go over the years but the club is still fighting fit. I would rather he stayed but we have plenty of players who can fill the spot so lets not panic. Snodgrass was one of my favourite players because of his commitment but now he has gone so I have moved on as well and hope Lafferty becomes our new star.

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    TrevorKeith

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Kenfoggo, I dont see how you can say Delia is not a supporter. She may be a business woman but she is definitely a supporter and has saved the club from extinction. On your other point I agree. The manager should be able to tell the board who he would like to sign\keep and let them make it happen. This unfortunately seems to be working in reverse.

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    Trucker

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Just to remind everyone - we won yesterday! We all expected to lose some players, partly because of relegation and any also a new manager will see things differently and want changes. All boards have some say about what goes on - that is how the structure was set up. Not just Pulis but some of Man U signings happened before Van Gaal was in post. Also look at what has happened at Southampton. Criticism of Delia is just plain daft - she put millions into the club before we got back into the EPL when no one else would. Lets get behind NA and the team, especially in the next two matches.

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    andy

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Nice to see some of you are clearly mad we won yesterday.

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    Steady On

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • kenfoggo - it looks like we are in agreement ref Pulis\Lambert. Even down to the `choice of words scenario` ;-) Grated minds think alike... I really hope Neil has not just been installed as a Puppet Manager, but it`s beginning to look that way. He has been in the Carra Comfort Zone for so long now, he`d never be able to walk away. A couple of years of management success and he could become a desirable target for another club. But would he want to leave Village Norwich? Is he really going to get any authentic management experience anyway? He is First Team Coach. No more than that. Unless events unfold to prove that premise wrong.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • It makes no difference who is manager, if a club receives and offer for a player the board will decide, weather the manager knows or not. Adams li9ke other managers will be powerless to stop it, the board looks at the business side rather than the sporting side, that's football today, sad to say

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    Derek McDonald

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Interesting thoughts, Irish Canary. Specially the `Mushroom Management` at the Club. Perhaps that was the Summer course the Board attended at Sco Ruston Institute of Management by Mycology? Stevie Fry was excused from attending - he`s a Fun guy already...

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I'm afraid that Neil Adams words are a damning insight to his own impotency as a Manager. It's all going on around him and he has no input into the retention of talented players. The very scenario which lead to the resignation of so many Managers in the past , including Pullis, and perhaps a large part of why Lambert left us? Still, good "business" for the Board to grab the money when it can. But part of me can only believe this is short sighted behaviour by the Board. Surely the only game in town is the Premier League and to be in that League and to get into that League you need players like Leroy Fer? The only inevitable conclusion is that the Board see the future for this Club is that of a middling Championship side. This puts their view and the desire of the supporters in direct conflict; hence the criticism on this Board of McNally and Delia Smith who are primarily business orientated rather than Football supporters. It was ever thus.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Very worrying that the manager has little or no input into who the club sells. I suspect after yesterdays results Man Utd might come calling, so hang on Leroy, stay put for now and earn yourself some respect not to mention a few win bonuses.

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    Trucker

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • How many more of city top players going to be sold who else will be go, as I've said a few days ago that Delia smith and her board are only interested in money in the clubs bank account and they own pockets . You sell your best players then the chances of a quick return back to the premiership look very poor this board gave the managers job to Neil Adams was becauces they wanted a yes man who will not make any demands that's why all the others managers interview Malky Zola , or did they interview anyone else this club will stay in the championship for some time they don't care about the fans as long as they get a full house on match days. They are a like Crystal Palace don't want to part with money.

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    DOBBY1970

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • When there were rumblings about a possible Wayne Rooney move from Man Utd did Sir Alex Ferguson say : "These things don’t tend to go between player and manager these days. It is all done by agents and those above me in the club." or did he say " That Lad is going Nowhere" !!

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    Dubai Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Ellie I think it is you who is the foolish 1 I never said keep the player, u are one of the happy clappers who think the board are doing a good job wrong

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    Howesy

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • This all seems to confirm what I thought when NA got the job. We interviewed other candidates such as Malky and Zola - but I'm sure all experienced Managers would have demanded the last word when it came to transfers. Our manager evidently doesn't have that - and that can only end in disaster. It looks like the Fer deal is as good as done (and Surman for that matter) If that's the case - why did we give him a cameo for 20mins yesterday to say goodbye? We don't owe him any loyalty - it's not as if he's played for us for a decade..we should have been giving a chance to a player who will be here for the rest of the year. The only think I can think of is that maybe the player himself isn't that keen on the move..but is being pushed out the door by the Board..in that situation maybe NA felt he owed Fer the chance to say goodbye? NA denied all knowledge of a bid for Kris Commons yesterday (which would be a great signing) Maybe we are in for him..but NA's not in the loop? I didn't support his appointment but now he's our Manager of course I'm behind him..I'm starting to think he's being treated like a mushroom - just like us loyal supporters

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    Irish canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Dear 'arry! Leeeeeroy is NOT for sale. £8 million is an insult- we got that for Snodders! Now please stop bugging us, og come with a proper bid. £15 mill and we might be talking. All the best, Neil and Delia

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    Norwegian Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • I was surprised that Surman didn`t leave for Bournemouth when we signed Grabban. I believe the south coast is where Surman would like to be. With their tiny ground, does that club have the income to pay equivalent wages to us? Maybe Surs doesn`t have to worry about little things like that? I`m getting worried about Dubya. He`s beginning to sound like me. I hope I haven`t stolen his identity! Good point by LYB - Fer got married at the Catholic Cathedral in Norwich. Perhaps his bride just liked it - looked good in the photo album! I don`t know how much we should read into that. Fer`s post-match antics yesterday did have that "Goodbye folks" look about them. It has become quite apparent, from Adams` own words, that he has no say whatsoever in what goes on. He is 1st team coach; no more than that. That kind of scenario was what drove Pulis to leave Palace. And Lambert to leave Norwich? I suppose it`s still at the `Rumour Mill` stage. I know I`m a pessimistic `moaner`, but this has the feeling of inevitability about it. Where`s Machianalli hiding?

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • This is an inevitable consequence of relegation. Of course it will be difficult to retain your best players who wish to play at the peak of their profession in the Premier League. Combine that with a Board with a lack of ambition and an eye for a fast busk and you have an outflow of your best players. The only surprise is that Ruddy has not yet gone, although there is still time.

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    kenfoggo

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Seems they learned nothing from the disaster that they were responsible for last year. How about saying FER IS NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE !!

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    Dubai Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Come on Neil, man-up here, time to come out with a statement like 'He is going nowhere' and follow it up with sincerity. I see this as an acid test, if Fer goes NA is just a puppet manager ! Very worrying.......DMcN and Co, we see what is happening here and we don't like it, you are mortgaging the future of the club and the fans will drive you out if you get this wrong, again.

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    Dubai Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • To be fair, Dubai, I think if there is truth to Norwich agreeing a price, then Adams is actually putting a bit of a shot across the board's bows here: "“I’ve had said all along my position would not change. Who in their right mind would open the door to let Leroy Fer go out?" Who in their right mind are his words here. If there is truth to an agreement, then this is a thinly-veiled criticism of the board. But what's more, Alan Bowkett was explicit on the day of Adams' appointment that if Adams wanted to keep the whole squad then we had the financial stability to do just that. Given that he's being incredibly clear here that he would like to keep this player, and given Leroy has 3 years left on his contract, I think the board is going to be damaging its credibility very seriously if they countenance this.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • California Canary, I'm not convinced that Fer would be all that attracted to playing for a team that will be among the favourites for relegation. The vibe from Leroy himself seems very positive in so many ways. Someone on here not long ago claimed he didn't want to be involved in a lower end team and wants to getting more wins. Not exact words, but that was the gist, perhaps the person who shared it can correct me. Then there's his own tweet from a week or two back: "Stop being afraid of what could go Wrong and start being positive about what could go Right... #Lesson" It might not have been about football at all of course, but I read it as a response to those more negative about the club's future. Lap of honour today can be read either way, possibly a fairwell, but equally possibly a way of showing appreciation to the fans for supporting them. The thing I found really interesting though was his decision to get married at Norwich cathedral. They could have got married anywhere, but he chose to opt for the city where he works. That just doesn't seem like something that someone with itchy feet would do. Maybe my view is coloured by the way I'd like it to pan out. We'll see.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Wow! I thought this had changed, but no, same old city board imagination, buy dear, sell cheap and if a player is good get him out fast before he asks for more wages. This has been the mantra of NCFC since the old third div north and south, I guess it will never change...Too bad I can no longer see them on TV here in North America..

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    canuk

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Please Please EL TELL Ahem off back to your crubby little team you really support!

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    alan clark

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • Contracts count for little in football.If a player wants to go there is little that can be done to prevent it.Fer,if he wanted to stay would not have been sold.Obviously,he would prefer to get back into the Premiership and who can blame him for that.Better for his career to play at the top level and no doubt more money and against that how could the manager or anyone else at the Club persuade him otherwise.8 million is a good fee for him.

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    irongloves

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • What's left out of your view, Michigan, is that Fer probably wants to leave the club to play in the Premier League where he feels he ought to be.

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    California Canary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • No surprise we are losing our top players; I just hope we get top prices - Fer must not go for less than 10M. What annoys me is all the stupid comments from directors and manager about "not needing to sell anybody" and "I don't want to lose him". The leadership in this club does not appear to know what it wants re football, but appears to be greedy for money now it has got a taste of it.

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    MichiganCanary

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • The player obviously wants to be in the EPL , that is only natural. The problem lies with the board who seem hell bent on stashing money in the bank. To have a business grow, investment must be made. They brought in a manager on the cheap and are seemingly content, as long as Carrow is full , to remain in the lower division. I, along with all others on this site just want a successful winning side. We deserve it. If this doesn't happen. I will stash my money in the bank and stay home on every other Saturday.

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    stormy

    Sunday, August 17, 2014

  • If Fer goes (and I think he will) it is unlikely that he and Adams didn't know about this deal. The fact he was happy to go and play 20 mins, and by accounts put himself about a bit in a game that was already well won, shows something about the man that I though he might not have last season. Fair play Leroy, and good luck - if it's QPR you'll need it.

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    Coldharbour Canary

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Whats the point QPR will be going down this season

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    dave123

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • The transfer aside, the most shocking thing here, as Dubai has said, is that NA wants to keep the player but these things happen above his head !!. What are you serious Neil, if thats the case I can see perfectly why the board appointed you.

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    Jimhow

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Noggin, he came from FC Twente on a 4 year contract. If you want to make a point by stating facts it's best to actually get them right. Calm down everyone, if we sell Fer we will buy someone half decent to replace him. At the end of the day it's a business. Relegated teams always get cherry picked. Even if Fer leaves we will be just fine.

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    CanaryWest

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • There are a few people missing the point here. Yes we get that fer might want to play higher but if that is the case then surely we must have known before know and could have planned ahead, we look like we are shelling the players without bringing in replacements

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    BigO

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • To the Gerbil. Fer came to us from Heereven and signed a 3 year contract or whatever and I'm sure his wages were quite higher than at Heereven. The point is he is under a contract to us and whether he wants to play PL football or not is irrelevant. Why should his chances of playing for Holland be any worse if he is playing in the Championship and he is playing good football for us. I think the Championship is equal to Dutch league and the Dutch team has players from that league.

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    NoggintheNog

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Doing a great job keeping the fringe players- Pilkington,Fer and Surman all gone within a few days. When are we getting the replacements?

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    VictorM

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • If we are to believe Adams, it would appear that this transfer is being conducted behind his back by the board and Fers agent. Presumably that applies to any outgoing transfers. What are the rules for incoming players?

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    VictorM

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Howesy: I rarely make comments on this site and only do so when I read something of such stupidity that it merits a response; your post falls into that category. £8 mill seems reasonable but I would be pleased if we could push it up to ten. I get the impression that Fer has bigger ambitions than the Championship and it would be pointless keeping him here against his will. I get the impression that we have enough moaners in the camp without adding to that pile. Take the money and spend it on a decent centre half or two. Daft allegations about Delia's motives achieve little other than making you look foolish.

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    Ellie

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • First thing we thought when Fer applauded the crowd today was, He's off then. Mind you Tetty played a blinder, I'd have given him MOM.

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    tom the taxi

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Whatever are you talking about James, may just have 11. so we are about to lose a midfield player. We still have in the centre of midfield Tettey Johnson (who was awesome today) Howson Gary O Neill and Hoolahan although is a bit of a floating player. In the wide positions we have Redmond, 2 Murphys and Elliot Bennett. We may sign a couple yet. Up front we have Grabban Lafferty Hooper and Loza. Becchio is also still a Norwich player. We were great today without Fer Howson Ollson and Hooper. Stop moaning and look at the positives. We all knew we would lose a few and they were going to be the best players. We are not a premier league club at the minute so are not going to keep our premier league players easily.

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    The Gerbil

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Awesome...we should just about have 11 players left in our squad to start on Tuesdays then! Lets hope we don't get any injuries or we will struggle to hit a top half finish :

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    James Dunthorne

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • What people seem to fail to get into their mindset is that Leroy Fer is a player that wants to be in the premier league. He is a dutch international so will for his dutch place want premier league football. QPR have come in for him and probably offered him several thousand a week more. If you were Leroy Fer what would you do. The question is then how much do we take for him. You can be pig headed and insist he stays which I would imagine is what happened to Wes last year and luckily it paid off. What you then end up with is a disruptive player who doesn't want to be here. Suggesting the board resign is daft.

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    The Gerbil

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Why are we so surprised at what this board does all they have done is tell us lies lies and more lies, ever since DS couldn't buy Ipswich she came here not to save us as some people believe but to make money and put her flagging career back on track ps if she loves the club she will leave with what she paid for it but she won't she will take her 40 million and go back to Suffolk

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    Howesy

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • What is going on at ncfc? To my reckoning we are now going to have let out snodgrass for £7m, RVW for £7m, fer likely for £8m, Redmond likely for £6m, pilks for £2m and surman for a likely 7 figure sum. We have bought in 2 freebies and a £3m centre- forward. Are we trying to give Adams a chance to get us promoted or not. Keep fer!

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    BigO

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Please please Delia and Co resign now before we are the richest club in the first division with the weakest manager. Money is their god

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    El tel

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • "These things don’t tend to go between player and manager these days. It is all done by agents and those above me in the club." - what a complete cop out this sounds like. Have we seemingly a "yes man" manager who the board have got just where they want him ? Come on Neil impose some ownership and authority on the situation here, tell the CEO Board he is your man, you want him here and unless he stays, you go ! Take a page out of Tony Pulis's book, get things your way or be prepared to walk. That is how you earn respect in this business !

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    Dubai Canary

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • After the game tonight Fer told someone who asked that he wasn't going. Darren Eadie thought he probably was. Take your pick.

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    suffolkcanary

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • If you really don't want him to go, say so and mean it. If business is business then make the buyer pay. 8 million is nothing to QPR, double it and settle for 12.

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    Cornwall Canary

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • We must not sell Fer whatever the price.If he does go I would expect the Board to come out with an explanation why they had to sell him when NA doesn't want to loose him and the Board are on record that we don't need to sell. I can't see any reason to sell him and I think the Board will encur the wrath of many supporters Snodgrass and Pilkington are a different case to Fer. DON'T SELL FER

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    NoggintheNog

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Personally I think Leroy would be mad to go to QPR. I very much doubt they will even be in the PL come next season. He's better off staying with us. I think he will relish the challenge of the Championship and help to get us back into and established in the PL. He's glad to be back and once up to fitness will be raring to go. Well one can hope!!

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    Canarygirl

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Well well Archant up to their usual antics. So let's review.... Why should he be allowed to leave? He wanted to come here last year for premier football. He was just as responsible as others for the clubs failures on the pitch. Why should he be given a cameo to say goodbye, are we that desperate for players to be part of the hall of fame. If you want away then s** off good ridence. 10 million should suffice

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    JB

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Hold out for 10+ if we dont need to sell

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • I know we own today - yay - and this is hardly shocking news... But where are the replacements? If we're supposed to show any fight for getting out of this league we need to be bringing people in. It's not like we don't have the money! I should stop caring so much.

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Surprise, surprise (not really)..... It looks like he is on the way, can't see much stopping him now, despite all the speak coming from NA. I would think this will be a done deal by Mon or Tues. Inevitable really, but losing Fer is all part of lack of ambition being shown by the board. I suspect NA has little or no say in the matter.

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    Dubai Canary

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

  • Just wondered ' what if Leroy had done a ligament or achilles' in those 20 mins, would QPR close the checkbook. So NA a little white lie to that effect and sod off 'arry

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 16, 2014

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