Norwich City boss Neil Adams believes there is plenty more to come from Nathan Redmond

Nathan Redmond beats Bournemouth's Charlie Daniels to set up Lewis Grabban's opener at Carrow Road. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images Nathan Redmond beats Bournemouth's Charlie Daniels to set up Lewis Grabban's opener at Carrow Road. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images

Thursday, September 4, 2014
12:08 PM

Norwich City chief Neil Adams is urging Nathan Redmond to prove just why he is hot property in the Championship.

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Adams maintained Redmond was always a key part of his plans, despite constant summer transfer speculation touting him with a Carrow Road exit to the likes of Southampton and Stoke City, and with the window now closed the Norwich boss is confident the 20-year-old can blossom.

The England Under-21 international is currently at St George’s Park preparing for the Young Lions’ 2015 Uefa European Under-21 Championship qualifying double-header against Lithuania and Moldova, but Adams is demanding more moments like his assist for Lewis Grabban’s goal in the recent 1-1 league draw against Bournemouth.

“That is exactly what we want to see from Nathan,” said Adams.

“There is no question he works hard at his game and on his deliveries, but when he gets the full-back one versus one we just need him to be more positive, because he has made that goal and he had other chances when he isolates the full-back and that is the ideal situation for a wide man.

“It was a great run – he beat the full-back and put the ball exactly where you would want it to be and Lewis was in the right place to bury it.”

Adams believes Redmond’s decision-making will only improve with a regular run in the Norwich starting line-up.

“The goal was what he is all about at his best, attacking full-backs and whipping balls in and then it is up to the Grabbans and Laffertys and Cameron Jeromes to get on the end of them,” he said.

“You want more and more of that from Nathan because it was a fantastic assist and sometimes when he comes in and shoots if they go in, then it’s great, but the run and the cross for the goal was brilliant and he has the ability to go and hurt defenders. That cross was bang on the money.”

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  • I think it was Mannion, Gibbo. I was at that Norwich vs Derby game, Waclor. Was it Sheffield`s debut, or home debut? I seem to remember he was some sort of relative of the then NCFC Manager; Lol Morgan. (He was an early pioneer of Tweetspeak, Lol) ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, September 7, 2014

  • What about Laurie Sheffield? Debut hat trick against Derby then faded. Hugh Curran was a great striker and the first player I saw taking a long throw into the penalty area.

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    waclor

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Was it John Manning or Gerry Mannion who tossed a missile thrown on to the pitch back in to the crowd and then had to publicly apologise to the lad he hit.

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    Gibbo

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Hi, Pa! Keep it coming. The wisdom of experience. How are things in Che Vron? Is Ma in fine fettle? Is Stew leaving her dumplings alone? You must watch out for that sly old devil.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Redmond has got to come to terms with the fact that he is a small part of the Norwich City set up! He plays for Norwich City! Not the reverse! Unless told otherwise his job should be to 'feed' the centre Striker, and one of the strikers tasks is to be in position to receive that telling pass, and not concentrating on helping the Centre Backs out! That is what Hughton did to Holt. It's a hell of along run from one penalty area to the other!

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    Pa Snipps

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • This is what a discussion board should look like!! For me Dale Gordon has to go down as my favourite as I loved the step overs and the way he could drop his shoulder to send the defender the wrong way. He was also in the team when I first started to go to Carra Rud so that explains my bias. One that no-one has mentioned who I also liked (Beyond the obvious candidates of Eadie, Fox and Hucks) was Dave Phillips (before he got moved further back). He wasn't flashy, but had a good bit of skill, was direct, but was also a clever player who generally chose the right option.

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    Preston Canary

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • I'd like to see NR get one or two yards into the box more often. Most of his goals at Birmingham and England U21s came from there.

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    Parsnip

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • I have no memory of Ken Foggo with a rugby pedigree. He was small but back then a rugby team had roles for people of all sizes. There were plenty of positions for small, nippy players who were harder to tackle than a big target that would go down, "like a killed rhino" the expression used to be.

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    Swiss Canary

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • I think Neil's biggest problem will be keeping such a large squad happy as we now have 32 first team players. A nice problem to have but how many will be happy to not even make the bench week after week. Josh will be happy to slowly get introduced this season but will rightly demand regular football next year I suspect. Meanwhile, I suspect Redmond and a couple of others will be looking to see where we are placed at Christmas before deciding where their futures lie.

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    TrevorKeith

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • It is good to see so many contrasting opinions from fans, I agree that Redmond must be played on the Right hand side as he is far more effective there. The current favoured 4, 2, 1, 3 has worked for us as it has resulted in 10 points from the last 4 games, the two wide players are in effect being used as additional strikers rather than wingers in the traditional sense as they are expected to shoot more often as well as put crosses in. Bournemouth however came up with a system to smother our set up and it worked so Neil must be ready to employ a game plan B when this happens again. I still wonder if we should consider going three at the back to a 3, 4,1,2 system. That way we can use two traditional wingers as well as two strikers and a man in the hole. Just a thought from a retired coach.

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    TrevorKeith

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Waclor, if he did play rugby it would have to be at school. He signed for WBA as a junior in 1959 age 15\16.

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    cutty

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • ...Waclor, me again! John Manning - he was the pre-Holty Horse. A very good, solid front man, great team player. Like Holty, he did the rounds of lower-league clubs `up North`, including Shrewsbury (though Shrewsbury`s no further north than Naaaridge, really). Wiki tells me that he scored 70 goals in 130 games for Tranmere, 21 in 60 for us. He played alongside Hugh Curran for a while, I think. He was a scouser.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • ... it was h0oker ... OMG.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Not sure if rchie blocked that for wee...

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Waclor:- He was a bit w€€ for a rugby player! I suppose he might`ve been a winger or the h0oker? Maybe, as a youth, he was not so different in size to his peers?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Waclor:- He was a bit wee for a rugby player! I suppose he might`ve been a winger or the hooker? Maybe, as a youth, he was not so different in size to his peers?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • I can't find any confirmation on google but I seem to remember reading somewhere that Ken Foggo played rugby for Scotland at youth or under 21 level. Is my memory playing tricks or can anyone confirm it?

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    waclor

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • That was the one I remember Brew. It wasn't just that he missed but it went miles up the River End stand. I also remember John Manning putting in a cross from the right wing for Mike to head in but he shut his eyes, flinched and missed the ball altogether. John Manning rolled his eyes in complete disbelief.

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    waclor

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Hucks was the best latter-day winger but Foggo could play on either wing and scored 57 goals, he has to be best overall. I know I've said it before but I'm going to bore you again, told the wife I wanted my ashes scattered on the pitch at the river end where Foggo use to cut in and score.

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    cutty

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • I`m with James Gilray - good old Bill Punton! Underrated. Like Lobbo, Ken Foggo on the right. (Or Elliott Bennett, Lobbo? ;-) Waclor, I remember Mike Kenning missing from point-blank range at the River End. Effectively, he cleared the ball off the line and somehow got it over the bar! More or less...

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • and then there was the name I had etched onto my geometry set case. Kenny, Kenny Foggo, Kenny Foggo on the wing.....

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    Lobbo

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • Star City wingers: Terry Anderson was an average winger who became a brilliant midfield player, Don Heath was pretty good but how about Charlie Crickmore or Mike (couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo) Kenning?

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    waclor

    Friday, September 5, 2014

  • We have been blessed with so many good wingers down the years. In my opinion it is the position we have generally had the most consistent strength... yes Huckerby was awseome, but for me the best were Ruel Fox and my all time favourite Darren Eadie. He was so great around about the time he got his England call up and so unlucky with injury, so blisteringly fast and tricky... and then there was that goal against Sunderland... Eadie! Eadie!

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    jops

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Naff keyboard, sorry

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    oldtimer

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • I can go back further than Gavin and Brennean, but for me the best left sided attacker we ever had has to be Hucks. Fast tricky, subtle and knew where the net was. Having said that, I was friendly with Keith O'Neil during his time here, and without the distraction of the old Guiness (and Sarah Thomas), he could and should have been a bigger star than he was. Just for the record, I remember him roaring round a pub car park in his new convertible BMW with the hood down, my eight year old daughter in there laughing her hold off................in below freezing February. Nuff said

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    oldtimer

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Redmond has lots of potential. Time to step up to regular senior stature and start converting that potential into game changing performances.

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    kenfoggo

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Hucks best position was as a floater..behind the front 2 or just inside of iwan...Wingers that are out n out wingers are often easy to predict and closed down by decent fullbacks,unless the winger has that added bit of magic like disco dale or Barham used to have..Redmond and the twins seem to have it as well.

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    alan clark

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Surprised nobody has mentioned the winger who in my opinion was the best I have ever seen in for City. He set our hearts racing and got the crowd roaring as he sped down the wing and on countless occasions either scored or set up a goal. Good old Billy Punton!

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    James Gilray

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Bobby Brennan one of the most gifted ever to wear the yellow and green was an inside left and only featured as a left winger after brought back from his spell with Gt Yarmouth.Macaulay played him there during the famous Cup Run to accommodate Jimmy Hill,signed as a winger,but converted to inside left.Who said players can't perform out of position! Brennan was my all time best City left winger until Huckerby joined.Now I can't choose between them as our best ever left winger.Hucks had more pace but Bobby more subtlety A privilege to have seen them both in action.

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    irongloves

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • I can only agree with others who have posted regarding the right footed cross coming from the right wing. Of course it's better like that, he only has to beat the defender once before putting the ball in the box, reducing the chance of being tackled fifty percent, that's an immediate advantage. As we have seen, we already have players who can shoot from distance. What we lacked last season was a clinical ball into the box, for the forwards to score from, hence we didn't get goals, but we did get relegated and our multi million pound strike force never got going. We need wide players to cross the ball, not take wild shots. Give the forwards the supply to hit the back of the net and they'll do the business.

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    Bootneck R.M.

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • NMTD:- Back reference to an earlier post by the Sad One; "new age". I once wrote, in 2005, a whimsical poem about the Glastonbury Festival, titled "New Age Sewage". Copies on request - free, but donations to Steady`s rehab most welcome.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Mad Brewster..I also checked 3 Leeds forums when we bought howson etc...But don't forget the six month rule! ..I used their history to go back to a time Howson wasn't leaving,and I couldn't find one negative post! On MOT site the best topic and comments for howson were "captain courages does it again" with comments like, I f it wasn't for howson we would be in the bottom 3 " Thommo though Loved By all now on Swindon sites let alone 6 months ago.. Ps ...I noticed someone was able to type Dea#h and got through the censors on here,yet gr#pe is censored.... By way I censored Dea#h myself as hate typing full word :)

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    alan clark

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Mad Brewer

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Bed Warmer .......... you make no sense, elaborate my friend

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Mad Brewer

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • How uplifting to reminisce about previous wingers with the prospect Nathan and the Murphy's could emulate, even better those mentioned in the thread .......... testament to our development coaches over many decades. Long may NCFC be associated with a production line of such talented players (I wonder who'll be next in line after Josh and Jacob ?)

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Great player but is playing on the left side really his best position? 1 goal in 30+ games isn't much to shout about. NA needs to get him scoring more often and assisting more often. that isn't going to happen playing on the left. for me he needs to play right side or in a more central role like Sterling at Liverpool. Far too much of Nathans hype is based around scoring goals for the England under 21s coming in off the left side against poor under21s defences. up against Championship and premier league defenders he isn't as successful. I notice NA didn't mention Hooper. Getting Gary playing and scoring between now and Christmas could be key to a return to the premier league.

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    tunsteadtiger

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Joining this discussion late with a first post...With all this talk of wingers, surprised not to see mention of Louie Donowa. Lightning quick but with erratic distribution at times. Remember Channon busting to get his creaking body into the box and then the cross ending up in the stand on more than one occasion. He had a few words to say to the teenager! Still got FA Youth Cup and Milk Cup Winner's Medals though...

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    Wobbly Jnr

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • We have always had form for developing top wingers haven't we. Even before Keith O'Neil and Eadie we had Disco Dale and Foxy and before them Mark Barham, for me all top top players except possibly Keith O' who could be a bit temperamental and also clearly liked a Guiness or two, I lose count of the amount of times me and my buddies would bump into him over a weekend, top bloke though always polite and up for a chat. Somebody who rarely seems to get a mention i n terms of classic city wingers is Dave Bennett, anybody 35 + remember him? He was a beautiful footballer, sweet left foot, lovely body swerve and he could leather the ball !!! Unfortunately like Eadie and O'Neil we spent too much time in the lower divisions when he was with us and he got the c**p kicked out of him every week and had to retire in his 20's, but man what a player!!!!

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    Mike Walker's Brown Leather Jacket

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • bobby brennan & johnny gavin where my two "best of all time"wingers.

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    bluelight

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • completely agree. They were great

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    canarytim

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Tried to make a similar statement earlier Vic, fully agree.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • This current 4-2-3-1 to accommodate Wes isn't really working though. Lafferty's being used out of position and it already seems to be affecting his confidence. Hooper couldn't play that way either. Grabban likes to drop off or wide, so it'd be better to play Grabban behind Hooper, Jerome or Lafferty.

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    Colin

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Agree with Lindsay that he should always be on the right. Summed up the sort of delivery we didn't get last season by having wingers cutting inside. It's easier for strikers and harder for defenders if you whip it in in front of the strikers for them to attack. Stupid Hughton never worked this out.

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    Colin

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • As for playing one or two strikers, Grabban is an automatic choice with either Lafferty or Hooper when he is fit filling the other place. I think Lafferty either plays as a central striker or not at all - he has proved that he is no wide man and we now have a wealth of wingers eager to play. I hope Adams doesn't fall into the old trap of outplaying the old favourites whilst leaving better players to stew on the bench. I can see this happening with our wide players, in midfield and the back four. With the strong squad that we now have he must pick his best team that is available and the old favourites left out if they are not up to it.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Dale Gordon was probably my favourite. Not lighting quick but knew how to cut in and shoot. And Ruel. He could shift! Potentially Nathan and the Murphys could be better than any we've mentioned here.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • NMTD - good call re Keith O'Neil. I remember the first half of the 96 to 97 season when we had the two flying wingers with Fleckie and Andy Johnson supporting down the middle. We played Tranmere at home and O'Neil tore them apart. Bizarrely we could only get one goal and ,of course, John Aldridge popped up in injury time with the equalizer. Makes you wonder if O'Neil also had an attitude problem as he had everything you could want from a winger.

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • .....Could be down the to the fact that our strikers have in their minds that they have to defend corners and cover for our defence, instead of being higher up the field doing the job they are hired to do!...something left over from the previous manager!....If I had my way, our centre forward would be told that he must not retreat beyond the centre spot!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Grasshopper, at last a sensible point. I would put it as 4 4 2 with limited full back overlap, and the back 4 linking more with midfield. Discuss.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • We even have two people logging-in using his name.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Sorry to bang on,but repeating a point i made on another thread,if we DO use 2 wingers then it must follow we need 2 strikers in the middle. This implies a 4-2-4. with no place for Wes.It also assumes 2 midfielders can run the midfield with some support from our wingers.What does the team think??

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    Grasshopper

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • NMTD in my day it was Ken Foggo. Twice player of the year and 57 goals, a great wide player who could cut in and score.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Another long on-topic piece and very positive stopped by Archie! I suppose I'll get another stupid missive!

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Dubai, remember the days of Darren Eadie and Keith O'Neil, both of whom were pacey left footers but would often switch channels to bamboozle defences. To this day I still stand by the opinion that O'Neil was one of the best wingers I've ever seen in a Norwich shirt, just such a shame his career was cut short from a bone condition .......... if Redman can emulate either of those 2 he'll be a star of the future, that's for sure - OTBC ;-)

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Its not necessarily inexplicable of course. Sometimes its because of his pace--he's jetted up the field with the ball and everyone else is huffing and puffing to catchup and he ends up crossing into a box with a couple defenders and not a yellow shirt to be found.

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    Pennsylvania Canary

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Hope not Lindsay, just hope that Neil doesn't get too headstrong about playing him else where. On paper we have the strongest squad in many a long year and one of the best coaching and management set-up. So far Neil has had his share of good luck to go with his management skills. The future looks bright and the gods of football seem to be smiling upon us.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • we also tend to forget some good crosses Nathan makes when no one else actually pushes forward into the box to connect for some inexplicable reason, which happens not infrequently.

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    Pennsylvania Canary

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Dubai Canary

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Can you imagine if we field two top class wingers who keep switching wings during a game and banging in great crosses. Would have many defences in 6's and 7's. Come on NA get them to spice it up, I think you have all the ingredients now to boos the Chump.

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    Dubai Canary

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Redmond's cross last week was maybe his best bit of execution since we have had him with us. And it came from the right, with his stronger, right foot. Is that just coincidence

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    Lindsay McNeile

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • I should hope so, Neil. He's been rubbish so far! I'm glad we have kept him though as I also feel the potential is there.

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    Colin

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • He didn't mention Becchio either :-o owever will we cope without him?

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Clumsy mistake not to mention Hooper in the listing of strikers.

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    Surrey Canary

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • ...yeah...okay?... Fact is Redmond has the starting position and its his to lose. That's how competition for all places should go throughout the team.

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Well Redmond has from now till Christmas to climb off the cusp and apply his new-age analysts counselling , otherwise I predict he will be a stocking filler for someone , why keep trying with him when the Murphys are ready now ? I was on the cusp this morning but the memsahib handed me soothing unguent .

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    Bring on Foggo

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • I also feel Neil Adams is playing it right with Redmond and young Josh Murphy. However I also agree with those who say Josh has the edge given he as quick but has better end-ball judgements. Totally agree with Cutty that we should be playing two men up front with good quick wingers delivering crosses to them. Lafferty works hard but he hasn't yet scored and overall I feel, especially at this level, Hoopere when fully fit would be the best fit with Grabban up front. It will be interesting to see how Adams plays it with our midfield and central defence now we have extra manpower and with, I hope, Howson not far from being fit and in the frame. We now have an extremely strong squad - in my view a better and more balanced one than last season, with more pace and better finishing potential. Let's hope that the potential is realised because if it is and they gel as a unit, we should be in the frame for at least a top four place.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • At the very least Stew, now I sort of understand your language, there is trace elements of banter in there. I will watch your development with keen interest.

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • .....So pleased to hear hat the door has been opened and a chink of light has entered that block of whatever it is that sits on your shoulders!....that's another thing we can agree about!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • .....Football!...and Redmond!....He could do worse than having a long chat with Chris!....No not Hughton!...Waddle is the man!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Stew, what are we going to do about this "mostly agreeing with one another" thing? Its very unsettling. Fancy a brew?

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • .....well done Neily my man!.....You're a much better manager than that Chrissie!...I'll bet you are being admired by 'a jump on the wagon tea lady'....watch out for Bromide in your tea!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Sorry about the omission, put a should in there somewhere.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Welcome to the old F'rts club Vic. I called him Redman for weeks until NMTD got fed-up. So Redmong will do for me. But like you I think Murphy has the edge at the moment however Red did seem at his best on the right. I think Grab and Laff play down the middle with two wide players, Red, Murphy or the new Scots lad in any combo.

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    cutty

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • I think Adams is being very coy and astute about how he plays Redmond and Murphy... He realises they are both excellent players and wants the best for them. He could just drop Redmond and put Murphy in, but would this really be a great signal to sent to Redmond? Would that aid his confidence? Likewise you don't want to alienate Josh and let him think he will never have a shot at getting in the side. Instead Adams has been gradually giving Josh more gametime (check the times of substitutions, and the obvious brilliant game he had against Crawley) He's rewarding Josh and giving Nathan that little gee' up he needs. I think its a real mark of good man management. It's a competition I hope runs all season because I think it will do both of them good and encourage both to grow as players.

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Sorry about the omissions and spelling errors - senior moments I'm afraid.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • All very true - Redmonds end product whether cross or shot is usually quite poor. OK he provided a great assist with his cross on Saturday but can anyone the one before that. I think Murphy is ahead of him at the moment - both have pace but Murphy has better decision making and better end product. Unfortunately when it comes to team selection I think Murphy will always come out behind Redmong in the managers eyes.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • His problem isn't with shooting, its all in his decision making. I may be a bit new age for you guys on here but I think Nathan would benefit hugely from a bit of sports psychology. His finishing, passing and crossing is awesome when he "thinks less", the cross he put in for Grabban the other day was sublime! Adams is the perfect guy to manage Nathans development because youth development is his background. I want this season to be a straight shootout competition wise for Nathan and Josh, both superb players who can push eachother to get even better.

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Nathan is only 20 so obviously there's more to come from him .......... that should be said about every player in the squad, you always strive to improve, that's what seperates the wheat from the chaff .......... (Grabban = wheat, RvW = chaff)

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    nevermindthedanger

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • What about the Hoopers Neyul??

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    Jimmy Smith

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • Not convinced. I have seen enough to suggest he is strong on pace and weak in finish and result re teamates or himself. If you sit in either the lower,upper tiers or near the corner flag, it is important to pay attention at all times when he is preparing to shoot.

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    A fine city

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • NA is the perfect manager for the likes of Redmond and the Murphy brothers, I'm sure they will reach their potential. Likely that we have also benefitted from his knowledge of the youth teams across the country with signings like Thompson. Let the good times roll!

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • You have to keep players like Nathan Redmond. He is a player on the cusp of real brilliance I think. He has stiff competition in the form of Josh Murphy though, all the better for encouraging his talents.

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    Steady On

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

  • £9m would have been okay but I'm delighted Nathan is still with us - that's even better.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, September 4, 2014

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