Norwich City appeal on persistent standing at Carrow Road

Norwich City will be writing to its supporters and supporters of away teams visiting Carrow Road to appeal for their help in remaining seated during games. Norwich City will be writing to its supporters and supporters of away teams visiting Carrow Road to appeal for their help in remaining seated during games.

Friday, February 22, 2013
5:24 PM

Norwich City have appealed to all fans to help avoid the risk of serious sanctions being imposed on the club by remaining seated during games at Carrow Road.

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The Norfolk Safety Advisory Group (SAG) is working with the Canaries to help ensure supporters’ safety and enjoyment of the match is not compromised by persistent standing during games.

A statement on the offical website said: “The passionate and noisy support of our loyal fans is something our manager Chris Hughton and the City players have always been proud of and grateful for - and long may that continue!

“Carrow Road’s partisan crowd and the proximity of the stands to the pitch make the atmosphere at our ground unique and it’s something that can provide a vital boost to the Canaries during the intensely competitive battle for Barclays Premier League points. And the club of course understands that supporters may temporarily rise out of their seats at exciting moments in games.

“However like other stadia up and down the country, Carrow Road became an all-seated ground following the publication of the Taylor Report in 1990, compiled in the wake of the Hillsborough Disaster of 1989 in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives in an overcrowded standing area.

“Seated areas are not designed to safely accommodate large numbers of supporters standing either in front of their seats or in aisles and gangways. In addition, young, elderly and infirm fans often find their view of the game partially or totally obstructed by people standing in front of them.

“Safety advisory groups around the country, comprised of representatives from the emergency services and local authorities, are charged with ensuring clubs are doing everything they can to minimise safety risks in their stadia on matchdays.

“These groups, including ours here in Norfolk, have the power to close sections of the ground where persistent standing is a serious problem. Some clubs, including Manchester United, have had their away allocation reduced in recent seasons as a direct result of this issue.

“Norwich City will be writing to our supporters and supporters of away teams visiting Carrow Road to appeal for their help and assistance in respecting these national regulations.

“This will start with our forthcoming home Barclays Premier League clash against Everton on Saturday, February 23, when our safety team and stewards will again be working to tackle any persistent standing in home and away areas of the stadium.”

A spokesman for the Norfolk Safety Advisory Group said: “The SAG continues to monitor the situation concerning persistent standing. It fully supports this fresh initiative by the club and hopes that the club is able to work successfully with supporters to ensure there continues to be a great matchday atmosphere at Carrow Road, in an environment which is safe for all spectators.”

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44 comments

  • I think I had a post censored because I referred to a forward slash. Can't be bothered to make my point again. A*s*holes

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    waclor

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • In addition, whilst sat down our elderly fans and our children can see the action, standing is a free for all. Respect if you please.

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    Lobbo

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • The proposal for designated standing areas needs to be looked into seriously. I`m sure some clubs would welcome any increase in potential ground capacity that comes with it(NCFC included?). People who prefer to stand can elect to do that without blocking the view of those who prefer to be seated. People who prefer to be seated will know that others in their vicinity feel the same way. Win-win-win situation. Of course, those electing to stand will have to do so for the duration of the match, likewise those who chose to sit........ Carls421, "the areas who sit" are surely the areas with..... seats?? A lot of this debate wouldn`t happen if a smidgeon of old-fashioned manners were restored.

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, February 23, 2013

  • Not sure about the health and safety issues Indiabill, but nothing irritates me more than people in front standing up, at precisely the most exciting points during match, and me having to do the same just to see. I'd give them one warning and then it would be a full harness seat belt, end of.

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    Lobbo

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Stand up if you hate to sit, stand up if you hate to sit etc etc...Sit when its quiet and stand when its exciting, its not that hard is it? Actually lets fit seat belts and harnesses and strap people down, fit muzzles so we can only sing for 2 minutes after a goal. I like it!!

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    lordbesty

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • If they clamp down on Norwih City standing, what are they doing about other clubs in the Premier, like Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and others. Nothing, its just another pop at Norwich City

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    Derek McDonald

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Until they sort the away fans out they won't win this, the atmosphere is horrifically bad at the moment because even during exciting parts of the game the stewards are telling people to sit, hate going at the moment.

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    martyc

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • It is about time that standing at matches was re-introduced. It is proved beyond doubt that standing at games is not dangerous, when grounds are properly designed and structured for spectator standing. The Bundesliga is a good example of where this works considerably. PL Clubs should lobby together to have areas of their grounds adapted for standing. It is about time that Clubs acted unilaterally on such matters. Enforcing an all seating policy at football matches is like making everyone drive their cars at a maximum 30 miles an hour across the UK to ensure 'road safety' !

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    Dubai Canary

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • String 'em up and chop off their woolies.

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    DocOhNo

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Sorry. 1.7:1. is there hope?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • If the club wants to enforce this rule, please star with the away fans. All visiting support stand, eject the ones who stand. The city fans would the get the message.

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    Malcolm Lown

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • I dont mean to sound too harsh but, If parents choose to bring their children into the Barclay or snake pit where they know most people stand most of the time then whos at fault? Same with pensioners. You dont buy a house and move in next to a pub or nightclub then have the cheek to complain about the noise do you??

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    Carls421

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Personally, I go to games to ultimately support the team, cheer them on and join in with the atmosphere by singing and adding to the 12th man. Getting us to sit down WILL take that atmosphere away completely. Might as well just sit at home and watch it on the internet or go to the pub where there is an atmosphere and watch it there. Less revenue for the club if more than most do that, and a lot of people will! Then where will we be? I know its not NCFC enforcing this rule but its just ridiculous to stop us from standing, if you want to sit then go to the areas who sit, and vice versa.

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    Carls421

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • It has nothing to do with safety. It has a lot to do with good manners. And the total lack of good manners that is prevalent by a 2 to one majority, it would seem. Agree with Lobbo.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Just to say most of the all seaterclubs have received this directive

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    sharky

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • mmmmm 421.so if you sit you are instantly struck dumb?

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    bluelight

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Or: ban 37% of the fans, rip out the seats, reduce ground capacity also by 37%. Flog spare space for Corpulent Entertainment. All seated, of course. But nice, comfy seats.

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, February 23, 2013

  • Sitting is sitting. If these oafs believe that preventing other paying customers watching the game is OK, they should be chucked out, pronto. Plenty of demand for tickets (as long as we stay in the Prem).

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • I find the reference to Hillsborough inappropriate to say the least. We now know that the fault was with the police and emergency services and not the fans or the fact they were in a standing area. To infer otherwise is disingenuous, perpertuating an untruth and continuing to misdirect blame.

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    canarytim

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Sit down for fook sake.... (ffs)

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    Colby Army!

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • All seater stadia were brought in because of the usual pathetic knee jerk reaction to a disaster, in this case obviously Hillsborough. It is often said that football hooligaism has reduced as a result but who knows? I also hate my view being interrupted by those who cannot possibly leave the bar until the match has started and then need a slash ten minutes before half time.One think I have to say having read some of the remarks below: I don't want to brag about my skills in multi tasking but I can sit down and shout actually at the same time! What's more, everybody I know can do that as well. Do you think NCFC could run classes?

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    waclor

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Just have them put down, chef. Would be a great improvement to `Society`. I mean that.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • I find the reference to Hillsborough inappropriate to say the least. We now know that the fault was with the police and emergency services and not the fans or the fact they were in a standing area. To infer otherwise is disingenuous, perpertuating an untruth and continuing to misdirect blame.

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    canarytim

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • What nonsense. Now it's not safe to stand up! These elf and safety advisers should get themselves a proper job, before imposing their paranoid twaddle on us.

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    Indiabill

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Can they prove that standing in a seated area is unsafe? Can they provide evidence of the last time there was an accident or incident due to persistent standing? Particularly in the last 20 years. We've been here many times before, especially being a STH in the back 3 rows of the lower Barclay Block E where they have summoned us to meetings to discuss it. We had an arrangement a while back where we agreed to sit down for a short time for a photo so the club could prove we sat down. Its all a bit silly, we can see the clubs POV but they wont get the fans in the Barclay to sit down for long.

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    Piranha24

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • There is a massive 20,000 capacity standing stand at Borussia Dortmund in Germany. It is awesome, and safe. Bring back safe standing areas. All away supporters stand all game, so what is the issue?

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    Soglio Star

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Standing happens in the Barclay with very little problem caused. Maybe SAG and NCFC can should also look at the police standng at exits at half-time, people smoking in toilet cubicles, people standing in the gangway for the last 5 minutes + injury time, or any other health and safety issue rather the a few people standing in front of their seat.

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    Yellow Fox

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Would somebody also tell the occupants of the Away Bench area to remain seated? Every time there is a little bit of excitement at the River End (sorry - N&P End!) they're all up, and filling the Technical Area (and even outside it at times). Nobody stops them. But because of their inconsiderate behaviour, many people (including me) - who have actually PAID to see the match - have their view totally obstructed, and even standing up doesn't help. It's bad enough when the manager goes to the front of the Technical Area and stands still for a long period, but when 15 people suddenly get up and leap around like baboons at a picnic, nobody sitting where I do can see a thing.

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    The Crab

    Saturday, February 23, 2013

  • Is there any chance that the Norfolk Safety Advisory Group could get a sense of perspective here. To my knowledge from many years as a season ticket holder in the Snake Pit, no-one has been injured, and the standing takes place at the express consent of the occupants of this area. When I sit, I look across the pitch at the away fans who predominent action is to stand throughout the game unchallenged. George Washington said it right "Laws or ordinances unobserved, or partially attended, had better never been made"

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    Aussiecanary

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • What a shocker! Brewer doesn't like it when people stand up! Never have guessed that one!

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    Steady On

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Anyone agree that the club is just covering its back? "Well Mr Bernstein we wrote to them, what else can we do?"

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    DocOhNo

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • If anyone believes that the players are going to be spurred on by fans sitting in silence and making no noise because we're all being made to sit down are totally deluded. Fact

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    Carls421

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Anyone at Villa Park that day could see the problem. The fans. Norwich fans were in the ground at least 30 minutes before ko, the Everton section was empty. They were still in the pubs. At Hillsborough the old bill, and believe me I'm no fan of the filth, had no option but to open that gate to relieve the pressure outside. The centre pen was already full because people ignored the section allocation on their tickets. Tragic, but if you believe the findings of any such enquiry are not politically driven then contact me, i have a car to sell you. Bring back standing and allocate sensible numbers. And please mods make people use their real names on forums.

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    Tony Brown

    Saturday, February 23, 2013

  • I'll support the club's stance on persistent standing if they stop selling time consuming cappuccinos in Yellows at half time when everybody is in a hurry to be served and get back out before kick off.

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    DocOhNo

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • vocal and supportive, Archant refused my punctuation.

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    Mr. Livers

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • I was told by a rather unfriendly old dear that " she had paid for her seat , and would stand if she liked " ?

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    mjc75

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Sorry. 1.7 to 1.0 majority. Maybe there is hope for a resurgence of courtesy? Dream on.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Yes Tony, and smoking doesn't cause cancer.

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    DocOhNo

    Saturday, February 23, 2013

  • start with the away supporters because we in the Barclay are constantly collared by the stewards and we consistently say to them about the away supporters and still it falls on deaf ears. Understand ground regulations but as a club it must be fair with its supporters because we should come first, if everyone sits there cant be an issue so NCFC on behalf of all NCFC supporters please address the issue with the away fans first, we deserve respect because without us NCFC has and is NOTHING!!!

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    Stephen Moore

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • does this mean all those who leave early for half and full time blocking my view at the crucial times of the game will be made to stay until the end? hope soand then they may catch a last minute goal or two rather than the bus

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    chefspecialsauce

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • I do find this utter nonsense. Are the same discussions going on at other major clubs ground. I doubt it. All seating has been in for many years, the Jarrold Stand (the last major build at the ground) has been there for nearly 10 years now. Everyone has had the chance to move and shake every season ticket renewal, everyone knows where persistent standers are and thus by now should either avoid going in these areas and gotten seats elsewhere if they want to sit. I cannot see any point in telling people say in Snakepit or Lower Barclay to sit when everyone knows they'll stand anyway and everyone around them accepts that. If it was the first season after wholesale changes to the ground I would have a different view, but this is not the case at Carra Rudd. Only those standing in areas where the majority sit should be told to sit. This will back fire on the club if they cave in to officialdom on this. Let it happen at Old Trafford first, Carrow Road should not be used as an easy example!!

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    shefcanary

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • When I was younger I enjoyed standing up but as old age creeps on move to the Jarrold stand like I did and let the yongsters stand up whilst they can but please enforce sitting in the areas of less mobile fans as we still come to the match for the atmosphere.

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    goldie

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Complete understand that the club has a duty to keep the supporters safe and I'm sure all Norwich City fans appreciate that. However, when this is 'fully' enforced surely it risks not only atmosphere but the enjoyment of the experience? One of the key attractions of going to a football game is the atmosphere, and how is this going to be generated when everyone is sat down? The irony is that everyone around the club says how crucial the fans are and how the noise made is like a 12th man. How can the fans be as vocalsupportive as possible if they're being told to sit down every 2minutes?

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    Mr. Livers

    Friday, February 22, 2013

  • Clubs can't win on this one. Fans in certain areas want to stand but the rules (not made by the club) say they must sit. Adopting a lighter touch in the lower Barclay and Snakepit would seem reasonable because supporters who want to sit don't go there. When the game is quiet there should be the opportunity to do a sit down sweep from front to back - if there is any excitement it is fighting a losing battle. Elsewhere it should be more strictly enforced because the persistent standing of just a few does block the view of many others. Been interesting to see what happens at other clubs this season - as an away fan sometimes it has been enforced very strictly but other times no one has been asked to sit down at all and everyone has stood for the whole match.

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    a fine city

    Friday, February 22, 2013

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