Chris Hughton insists the time to judge Norwich City is at the end of the Premier League season.

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The Canaries ground out a point against Fulham at Carrow Road to secure a third consecutive top flight draw in their bid to avoid becoming embroiled in a late season relegation battle. Hughton and his squad flew out to Abu Dhabi following the Cottagers’ deadlock to spend four days at a warm weather training camp in preparation for a run-in where survival remains the number one objective.

“For us there is only one statistic and one opinion that really counts and that’s the one at the end of the season,” said Hughton. “If we’ve managed to accumulate enough points to be where we’d like to be in this division then it’s been a good season. I know there are going to be times when the fans are disappointed, I know there are times when the fans are elated because of what they’re seeing.

“For clubs like us, you can’t perform at that level all of the time and you just hope that when you’re not at your best you can still pick up results. And probably when we weren’t at our best, we weren’t doing that a few weeks ago. We’re not at our best at the moment, but we’re not losing.”

Fresh league defeats for struggling trio QPR, Reading and Wigan boosted City’s own prospects of staying out of the mix, but after watching his side toil against Fulham Hughton accepts Norwich cannot rely on favours from their rivals.

“You hope the other results go for us and they haven’t been too bad but we have to do it ourselves and we now have two weeks to work and be refreshed for Everton at home,” he said. “You’d perhaps look at our draw a little bit differently if the other results had gone against you, but I think when we look back on it, it’s not a bad result even though we wanted the three points.

“We haven’t been as creative as I would like on this run but Fulham is a good side with quality that can hurt you. The negative is we need to score more goals. I think in terms of results we have turned a corner. We’ve had some wonderful highs this season and we have had some lows as well but that would be expected of a club where we are. We just have to make sure we keep accumulating points and while we would like the wins there is only one objective and that is to make sure we are in the Premier League next season.”

Norwich remain behind the Cottagers only on goal difference and Hughton believes that underlines progress has been made since the club’s opening day mauling at Craven Cottage.

“We’re certainly a lot closer to them. They’re a team that have been a mid-table team in the Premier League for almost as long as I can remember and the quality of their players shows that,” he said. “I didn’t think they particularly hurt us and we got into some good areas, but we needed to show a little bit more in that offensive third. We have a home game coming up and it’s another we’ve got to look to get three points from.”

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116 comments

  • Some of these comments are ludicrous. The tactics weren't negative when we went 10 games unbeaten were they?! The simple fact is the players aren't putting the ball in the back of the net, nothing to do with negative tactics or the man being disliked. Trolls.

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    JimBob

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Wake up Steady on, Colours are for sure getting nailed to the mast. You have nailed yours on and added super glue. Others have nailed to the main mast and have reached a different conclusion. They want to see Norwich City survive as much as you do, but are getting fed up with what was a decent side being turned into a collection of 'nearly men'. Our present manager is running a parallel course to a certain Mr Worthington and we fear the outcome will be the same. Thanks to Archant we now have the opportunity to express our views., something that was not available when he was running for cover. Because you are satisfied with the current situation does not mean we all are, as the majority of contributers on here seem to show. We are Norwich City Fans, and want the best for this club. Cheap jibes about going to support Ipsvich makes you sound like a spoilt brat.

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    Pa Snipps

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • You're a year out Johnny Gavin, it was 1960. Ipswich finished top of the second division that year and won the first division title a year later. in 196061 Norwich finished fourth, 3 points behind Liverpool and ten below Ipswich. Incidentally City were the lowest scorers in the top half of the division that year with 70 goals in 42 games.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • To alan clark I would say that I am not a qualified medical practitioner but if my doctor prescribed me a laxative for a head ache, it would raise doubts in my mind as to his ability. When after two weeks with the headache getting worse, he prescribed another laxative, my doubts would worsen. Then after another two weeks when he tells me that he is really disappointed the head ache is still there but how about some more laxatives, I would change doctor. The fact that he had taken advice from two other doctors who had been sacked for incompetence from their previous surgeries, would confirm the need for a change.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Well spotted Stew. Didn't it used to be government policy to send juvenile delinquents on tax-payer funded trips abroad to make them change their ways? Perhaps Hughton is in the desert trading donkeys for camels.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • I will judge CH on the last nine league games, all of which he has failed to win.

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    blue tractor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Never mind the Canaries last PL league win Blue Tractor, when was 1p5wich's ? Way back in 2002 or something wasn't it - so long ago it doesn't even matter. Our boys looked good training in Abu Dhabi yesterday afternoon - don't worry they are staying up - OTBC !

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    Dubai Canary

    Thursday, February 14, 2013

  • People moan - they get told to go elsewhere and support Ipswich. People praise - they get called happy clappers. Where's the middle ground? For what it's worth, if Hughton keeps us up he will have done a good job. In terms of budget, we're probably in the bottom two with Wigan in the Premier League. We do the best with what we've got at the moment. Our main problem is that we don't have any pace in the side and our most creative player can't shoot. The formation Hughton plays wouldn't be as negative if we had players with pace in the wide positions. Then the 4-5-1 could become a 4-3-3 when breaking forward. The other issue is that Hoolahan is the player behind the striker and he can't shoot. As creative as he is, we don't get enough goals out of him. If we do stay up we need to sort these problems out and we won't have to rely on Snodgrass' set pieces. Sadly goalscorers and pacy players are the most expensive ones and we don't have a great deal of money. That said, I'm baffled by Hughton's really late substitutions. Even Worthy changed things at 70 minutes.

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    tjb_east

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Oh Johnny Gavin.. now theres a memory. Celtic did quitte well but you see what happens with all out attack you lose.... unfortunatly. Some good posts on here tonight.

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Ethered first time! At the risk of rattling a few cages here goes. The postings by TJB East, Manc Canary, Jim Bob and Scot Can are true and acceptable. Lambert and his "We will score one more goal than you to win" would have sunk us to a similar level and struggle that Villa have now.

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Em, EssexYellow you may want to reconsider!!

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    DocOhNo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • P.S. Hooper did struggle last night, but how many defences like that will he come up against in the Prem?? I would suggest none. I also saw nothing wrong with his workrate, but £9m, or whatever it was? I don't think so. Maybe £4m, and possibly £5m, but no more than that.

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    Preston Canary

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Part two! Hoots has come in to cobble together and stabilise with little or no money, he could not risk the club with another big debt. This club nearly went to the wall a little while ago, QPR are spending money like water, their judgement is yet to come, do we honestly want that again at the carra? Give the man his due, he is not going to please majority of the fans but has to work within the remit given him by McNasty. I am sure he knows the problems and wants to do something about it but he cannot afford to gamble, the risk of going down is too great, just simply look down the road at Portaloo Road! In the summer hopefully having survived money will be more plentiful, not so much pressure and players cheaper to buy, sure the man will come up smelling of roses, get off his back and stop moaning, if not that will be the time to cast votes! I rest my defence.

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I have to go with the so called knockers here. Hughton has a pig headed attitude that is arrogant to say the least. Nobobody is saying that Lamberts gung ho all out attack was perfect, but he did have a plan B when things were not going well. Hughton has no idea of how to set up an attacking formation and the clowns that purport to be our wonderful backroom staff cannot hold a candle to Culverhouse and Karsa. Since we now have five goalkeepers on the books why not go the whole hog and send eleven out there to block the whole goal. Seems like a plan to me........just saying

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    oldtimer

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I can't agree with the negative and insulting comments aimed at Hughton. Let's keep things in perspective. He is a decent, determined, honest and hard working manager. I am not advocating sacking him, but I do want us to look like we might score a goal. I don't think we are in relegation form and I believe we will be ok. However, as I have said before, I do expect these issues to be addressed in the summer. If the players we have don't fit in to the way Hughton wants to play then we need to get some in who will. However, Hughton also needs to pay attention to the proud and long standing commitment that this club has towards playing inventive, attacking football. I will begin to judge more harshly next season if things haven't moved forward. Don't forget the importance Lambert placed in achieving promotion automatically, because of the extra time it gave him to plan. Hughton didn't have that and as anyone knows, January isn't an easy time to do business. OTBC and IHIST.

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    Preston Canary

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Why don't YOU go + support 1p5wich Steady On? They have plenty of deluded fans who think their team are doing well when they aren't,much like your good self....

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    Timbo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Respect, Doc. It`s a pity the boards do not allow replies to comments to be placed adjacent to the original comment. Specially confusing when Archant delay the posting of a piece or retro-ether it. I would rather believe it was incompetence rather than malice. Could be a bit of both, I suppose. waclor`s on good form today! I like the laxative analogy. About time Hoots dispensed with one of his Assistant Prescribers. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Agree with the posts about Hooper. He looked out of his depth against a good defence. The "tactic" of standing on the keeper's toes is something that will always cause trouble in European competitions because that is not the way the game is played or interpreted across the Continent. I watch Malaga every other week and we never see keepers being harrassed like that. If it was done the refs here would inevitably award a free kick. It was fundamentally niaive for Celtic to employ that "tactic" when you have a Continental ref. I thought that lesson would have been learnt years ago! Overall, though, last night seemed to show that Hooper wasn't worth all that effort and we would have been better employed looking, like Newcastle, Swansea etc, overseas for better, quicker and more mobile players and at sensible money. But as it is, we have to go with what we have and get the best out of every player. Which clearly is not happening because of the way Hughton sets the team up. We have scored only 26 goals this season - under one a game - which just isn't enough.

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Been absent for a bit and only just caught up with all this.Whatever is going on? So much dissent in the ranks! Let me say that I love knockers - Dolly Parton has a nice pair, but a bit on the large side for me. Some of those on the Emmerdale women are more my style! And speaking of the ladies: - Malcolm Holmes - were you the manager of a Ladies Football team back in the eighties early nineties? tjb_east talked a load of sense early on in these postings. For the record, I am convinced City will not be in the remotest danger of relegation this season. For that to happen, all the teams near the bottom of the table would have to be picking up a significant number of points while City are losing everything - statistically not a good bet! And don't forget how many of them have yet to play each other, so they can't all win 'em all!

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    The Crab

    Friday, February 15, 2013

  • tjb_east - hit's the nail on the head. If I'm not mistaken we're not in the relegation zone, we're 6 points above it. I would understand these comments if we'd been in the bottom 3 all season. We're not far off where we were with Lambert last season, and you certainly weren't calling for his head at this stage of the season were you? Yes we're in poor form at the moment, but realistically we're always going to have rough patches. If you want to support a team that will perform and win almost every game, then you can always stay at home and watch Man Utd on the telly can't you? Or, you can support the underdog.

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    MancCanary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Steady.. theres no point into getting into a debate as they dont understand common sense. I,ve been a fan since we had to apply to remain in the league. Yet some thing we are in a bad position. Yes there are a few who think they are foorball league managers. Real fans cant be bothered to argue with them

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Take the last 9 games - 4 points. Equivalent to 17 over a full season. That is worse than relegation form. This season has shown how painfully thin the resources we have as a club are for this league - look at the results whenever Bassong or Holt have been out for a start. Hopefully the new blood and the break will give a kick start and some more energy. I don't think we can fault the effort or commitment of the players. However, the Southampton, Villa and Reading games really are MUST win games now, win all 3 I'm pretty sure we will stay up, lose or draw all 3 I am pretty sure we won't.

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    SussexYellow

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • A very popular post Oldtimer. We all love knockers.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Brewer, point taken, I missed the original post. Completely agree about site's deterioration to personal abuse. Interesting points re the squad's "holiday in the sun". My understanding is that warm weather training at this time of year has remarkably good results but who am I to decide how the team should be punished?

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    DocOhNo

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Let's not let a 3 nil thrashing get in the way of a good argument!

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    DocOhNo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Who do you think you are, wisemanthree, Michael Fish? Now there`s a weather expert!! ;-) I agree with mjc75 too, banter & leg-pulling is great. Save the vitriol & sarcasm for the 1p5wich & Leeds trolls. Trouble is, one aggressive posting can start a landslide of similar; many of us have been culpable. Pax Canaria.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Some interesting comments here today, I wonder how different the posts would have been if the CH picture showed him smiling. He obviously wasn't enjoying the way we played against Fulham either . I do have faith we'll stay up but it will be close and unfortunately we may have to play some (more) ugly football to achieve this. As much as this goes against how I would like to see Norwich play I'm willing to live with it for now. I only get to go to the odd game now and then but am able to watch all the games on TV here in the states. I think my posts would be somewhat different if I lived in Norwich and had paid for a season ticket but lets not forget we are still in the premier and will be next season. I think the recent signings will eventually have an impact and we'll see some decent performances and results, it's way too early to judge CH now. OTBC

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    MrCarrowIsInTheHouse

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Interesting comments, Mikey B. While I think Hoots was quickly accepted as a nice guy with a solid record of achievement, maybe the baggage he brought with him from Brum does not have the same appeal? I still regret the departure of the clever, influential and enthusiastic Culverhouse. Instead we have "let`s buy another goalie and play Holt on the wing" Bewilderwood.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • In rugby, lifting in lineouts was hard to control so they made it part of the game. Maybe corners should be like ice hockey and you have an enforcer whose job it is to thug the other team over or have a scrap with the other enforcer.

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    Swiss Canary

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Sharky - you're right, he did score a great goal for his country but in the position he plays in, he doesn't score enough for us. Undeniably our most creative player though and I wouldn't leave him out.

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    tjb_east

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Well said Pa Snipps. Thank you on behalf of all those who do not subscribe to the "If we trust the manager, we'll be Ok" school of thinking. I agree that had Lambert stayed, we would quite likely have been in a worse position today than we are. The point is we could be in a very much better position today if Hughton was not so gutless. Comparison with Worthington is very apt. He always seemed to take the view that Norwich had no right to be in the PL and should know their place, not go scoring goals against their betters etc. Making a goalless draw your ambition in life is fraught with danger. Some of the teams coming to The Carra may have more ambition and nick the win at the end. despite the 6 point cushion, we can easily be caught by one of the teams prepared to fight for a win and survival. Everton at home Man U away then the Saints at home. Whither or wither our six point cushion?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • To answer MikeyB, to me Hughton looks and sounds like a loser who does not actually believe that Norwich City FC belongs in the PL. His coaching staff are failed managers and none of the three seems to offer anything new. They talk up the opposition as if they are trying to lower the expectations of the supporters as a preliminary to another defeat. It just does not give the feeling of confidence or any feel-good factor to the fans. The team tactics emphasise the negativity of the management and the football is so so so boring. As for being transient, Hughton does not seem to believe in the club so what is there to make us think he will stay?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • JUDGEMENT DAY IS COMING lol love it

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    YorkCanary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Why wait until the end of the season? You have 2 weeks to think of a plan B... If Everton score first what are you going to do???

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    JMH

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • tjb_east - hit's the nail on the head. If I'm not mistaken we're not in the relegation zone, we're 6 points above it. I would understand these comments if we'd been in the bottom 3 all season. We're not far off where we were with Lambert last season, and you certainly weren't calling for his head at this stage of the season were you? Yes we're in poor form at the moment, but realistically we're always going to have rough patches. If you want to support a team that will perform and win almost every game, then you can always stay at home and watch Man Utd on the telly can't you? Or, you can support the underdog.

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    MancCanary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Another try at part two! Hoots has come in to cobble together and stabilise with little or no money, he could not risk the club with another big debt. This club nearly went to the wall a little while ago, QPR are spending money like water, their judgement is yet to come, do we honestly want that again at the carra?

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Sorry, Villa's and Southampton's spending in my last post should read 20 million, not 20,000. Gone are those days ...

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    Johnny Gavin Lives

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Isn't it telling that Hughton is trying to suppress a yawn in the photograph. In that at least he is in tune with the fans.

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • We also got points against teams we wouldn't have expected to beat - Man U, Arsenal, draw with Spurs, Swansea away.

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    tjb_east

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Sharky, which kind of common sense are you talking about? A point a game to the rest of the season would net 41 points BUT three of those games are away to Man U, Man C and Arsenal. Last seasons away games at Sunderland and Stoke resulted in no points and West Brom are streets ahead of where they were last season. That is why we are so frustrated with the current tactics. We could easily lose half of the remaining fixtures and go down with 35 points. Then who will rue the lack of goals and a more attacking approach?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • HOW CAN YOU KOW THAT MYSTIC MEG!? Jesus!

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    Steady On

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I love the discussions on here. Perhaps those who are (relatively) contented with City at the moment are the calmer members of society, whilst the ranters and ravers are the over- reactors. We are still all City fans (except Ged, Blue Tractor and Liz Snott) and we all want to stay in the PL. The great thing is that we have the opportunity to express our views and read the views of others (including Ged, BT and LS). Thanks Archant.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Seems as though Ged Steroo is the magic password. Here is part two Give the man his due, he is not going to please majority of the fans but has to work within the remit given him by McNasty. I am sure he knows the problems and wants to do something about it but he cannot afford to gamble, the risk of going down is too great, just simply look down the road at Portaloo Road!

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Actually Blue Tractor it's a damn sight easier to say it several times than just once. Perhaps it's the same with scoring goals. Good luck at the weekend.

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    waclor

    Friday, February 15, 2013

  • Interesting idea Walcor that CH is trading donkeys for camels in the UAE. Now what is a camel?, It is a beast that can happily wander around in the wilderness for days on end without scoring anything. Been there, done that and we recently shipped one to Yorkshire.

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    Swiss Canary

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • So we are asked to judge him at the end of the season, when it could well be too late? Unfortunately, our good little run is clouding the judgement of many. The early pre season signs of a lack of trust in his squad are all too clear. He talks up the opposition to be world beaters and talks down his own players on a weekly basis. How does he expect the team to go out and play good quality, confident, expansive football when he is publically undermining them all the time? He is our manager and we must support the him and the team. However, someone at board level needs to have a word in his shell like. Otherwise, many could have egg on their faces come May, including all the happy clappers who can't seem to appreciate that many genuine fans are very concerned that the club doesn't spoil all the good work that has been done in recent years.

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    North folk

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • If CH is reading these comments, he shouldn't. This whole forum is full people with a downer on city. We are in the premier league, we may not stay there, so what, enjoy it, get behind the teammanager or drive down the road to support the Blue meanies.

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    b arclay

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Sharky, I reckon you and I must be about the same vintage. The postion we're in now is luxury compared to some we've been in in the past. Anyone else remember losing twice on consecutive days to Alf Ramsay's team in blue, Boxing Day and 27th December 1961 was it? 3-0 and 4-1 in the old second division if I remember rightly. City right now are punching way, way above their weight, like a welterweight fighting against middles (teams like Fulham) and heavies (Manchester United etc.). Give Hughton some credit, he can only work with what he's got, and his first priority was shoring up the defence. Only one squad in the Prem cost less than ours, which is Reading's. Teams that spent a lot more last summer, including A Villa (over 20,000), Sounthampton (ditto) and QPR (enough said) are still below us. Even Newcastle are, and think how much money they've got.

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    Johnny Gavin Lives

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Does any one realise that IF city had beaten Luton, The boys would be running around at Colney today in this lovely February weather, preparing for the next round of the Cup. They lost and as punishment for that loss, they are having to endure the heat of the Gulf, and the odd swim in those warm waters. Could that be ughtons Plan B?

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • I think Timbo was just "batting back" Steady On`s "Ipswich" jibe, Doc. Postings seem to be getting more personal\antagonistic than they used to be. A sort of Footy Fans` neo-Fascist movement; "Agree with me or be ostracised". Celtic game was interesting; though they played fairly well, you couldn`t help feeling the opposition would pick them off. On that showing H0-0per is pretty ordinary. Closer to home, our Tom Acadayemi scored for Brentford last night. Get him back quick, before he gets into more bad habits! ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Ethered again - part two! Hoots has come in to cobble together and stabilise with little or no money, he could not risk the club with another big debt. This club nearly went to the wall a little while ago, QPR are spending money like water, their judgement is yet to come, do we honestly want that again at the carra?

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Apart from the 1p5wich town sleepers who after a few mild pro NCFC posts,using vague NCFC related user names,and then start to stir the pot with negative orand made up lies..We have the Football experts who after playing Business House league or "Tom Daley's Football manager" on the Amiga as a child,think they know what is the best tactics,formation,to use compared to a manager or coach,who studies the opposition and knows what strengths they have in certain areas.He also knows what is available to him( ie kei only just stepped off the plane..fans screaming for him to start,or be brought on earlier,when that could've resulted in a prolonged injury due to a pulled hamstring!)....We have a right to criticise to some extent,but most of the time we are not in possession of the full facts,and for myself,am not qualified too.

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    alan clark

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Just to change the subject a bit. Watched Celtic this evening and I'm glad we didn't spend millions on Hooper, he didn't look very special against a good team. He must shine against poor Scotish teams thats why he has scored a few goals. Also glad we didn't bother with goalkeeper Forster who seems to have gone backwards since moving to Scotland.

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    goldie

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Doc- not @ all fella. As Brewer said, I was just responding to a previous posting suggesting that anyone who criticises the current regime should go + support our "friends" down the road. In reality, blind trust in a man who is driving your tractor straight over a cliff is a mind-set more suited to the mockneys down south than ourselves, Some of them are convinced they are on for the play-offs. See any white donkey website for details....

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    Timbo

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Ha! I think Michael Fish lost his weather privileges after losing his hurricane stripes ;-)

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    wisemanthree

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Watching Celtic v Juventus its great to see the home not frightened to get into the oppositions half and attack at every opportunity. Hope Ch is also watching this match please CH take note.

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    Essex yellow

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Ged Steroo is the obvious answer, so here goes and try to get it through in one piece! At the risk of rattling a few cages here goes. The postings by TJB East, Manc Canary, Jim Bob and Scot Can are true and acceptable. Lambert and his "We will score one more goal than you to win" would have sunk us to a similar level and struggle that Villa have now. Hoots has come in to cobble together and stabilise with little or no money, he could not risk the club with another big debt. This club nearly went to the wall a little while ago, QPR are spending money like water, their judgement is yet to come, do we honestly want that again at the carra? Give the man his due, he is not going to please majority of the fans but has to work within the remit given him by McNasty. I am sure he knows the problems and wants to do something about it but he cannot afford to gamble, the risk of going down is too great, just simply look down the road at Portaloo Road! In the summer hopefully having survived money will be more plentiful, not so much pressure and players cheaper to buy, sure the man will come up smelling of roses, get off his back and stop moaning, if not that will be the time to cast votes! I rest my defence.

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I'm quite fond of knockers myself. I agree re Hooper, £4 million is a more realistic valuation. Although FrayBentos do have a very good defence I reckon that he would come across quality defenders in the PL every week (remember until recently Michael Nelson was a superior defender in Scotland) so paying well over the odds for him would be a real gamble.

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    DocOhNo

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • I do think that Hughton doesn't trust his fringe players like Lambert did, but then Lambert had been with them for three years and knew exactly what they offered him and how to get the best out of them. Hughton did not have that luxury and has come in with a different philosophy which both fans and players have had to adjust to. I always felt that with Lambert leaving and HUghton coming in that this season was more about survival. As I have said elsewhere, I think we will stay up, but we have to address these issues in the summer, because I am used to watching entertaining football with Norwich.

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    Preston Canary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Some of us in Norfolk may not be too bright, including me, but we can spot bad weather on the horizon. A sunny spell in October-November, followed by an overcast December and January, has taken time to buck in February. I can't see a big change on the way. Outlook very uncertain! We seem to be stuck in the Doldrums. It may not be enough to just change the weather girl..Is that ok Doc?. . .PS..I also detect a bit of mutiny in the ranks.

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Ok well that has sorted that issue then. None of us are professional football managers so none of us are qualified to have an opinion.... So...... terrible weather today isn't it?

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    wisemanthree

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • To be fair to Hooper he was up against experienced and talented defenders whose bending of the rules was ignored by the referee. On the other hand, when it was obvious that standing behind a defender waiting for the ball to come to him was not working, he had no plan B. Hang on, perhaps he would have fitted in very well. Raise the bid, take the hat round. We must have this man.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • I do think that Hughton doesn't trust his fringe players like Lambert did, but then Lambert had been with them for three years and knew exactly what they offered him and how to get the best out of them. Hughton did not have that luxury and has come in with a different philosophy which both fans and players have had to adjust to. I always felt that with Lambert leaving and HUghton coming in that this season was more about survival. As I have said elsewhere, I think we will stay up, but we have to address these issues in the summer, because I am used to watching entertaining football with Norwich.

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    Preston Canary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I suppose it`s good that Blue Tractor shows his gratitude. Clearly, dull repetition is right up his furrow, but he should thank the vagaries of the Ar-chant message boreds for that. 1p5wich are just 1 point clear of the drop zone - in the `2nd Division. Actually, I don`t care what happens to them. It is touching that Ploughboy is so concerned about little ol` Naaaridge, though. Bless.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, February 15, 2013

  • May I remind you all that it is pointless getting into a debate with Steady On as he is a fictional character, not a person. On the NCFC front though, this is simply a question as to how you view the glass - half empty or half full. There will always be those who believe that if you're in the big boys league then you should pay big boys money and get worthy recruits in. Likewise there will always be those who believe that if you're in the big boys league then you've done very well for yourself and enjoy it whilst it lasts. It is all swings and roundabouts - Lambert was full-on-attack with little attention paid to defence, whilst Hughton is operation lock-down with little attention paid to creating chances. Every manager has their own philosophy, some work and some don't. The one thing that works though is everyone acting as a team, and whilst it is good to debate issues it is clearly too far to slam each other's opinions.

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    wisemanthree

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Well, thanks for your comments Brewer. Yes, I do understand where we are and how far we need to go in order to catch up with you lot, but who knows, it may not take too long. I live and work in Norwich so I take an interest in ncfc, even if it's just 'trolling'. I'm at 'fortress' Portman Road tomorrow, so wish me luck.

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    blue tractor

    Friday, February 15, 2013

  • Apart from the 1p5wich town sleepers who after a few mild pro NCFC posts,using vague NCFC related user names,and then start to stir the pot with negative orand made up lies..We have the Football experts who after playing Business House league or "Tom Daley's Football manager" on the Amiga as a child,think they know what is the best tactics,formation,to use compared to a manager or coach,who studies the opposition and knows what strengths they have in certain areas.He also knows what is available to him( ie kei only just stepped off the plane..fans screaming for him to start,or be brought on earlier,when that could've resulted in a prolonged injury due to a pulled hamstring!)....We have a right to criticise to some extent,but most of the time we are not in possession of the full facts,and for myself,am not qualified too.

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    alan clark

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Some fans are gutless and fancy themselves as little mark lawrences Pa. They do nothing but damage the club. Useless

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    Steady On

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • The thing is my canary chums, there were 3 or 4 home games that with a little bit more ambition, we would or should have won.

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    Lobbo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Is it me or CH falling asleep on the touchline on the picture. As I see it we are suffering from the lack of truly quality signing made by PL. Last season we should have been adding quality not, mostly, like-for-like. It was clear in the last-third of the season that the rest of the Prem had sussed out his attack at all costs policy and were giving our under-strength defence a pasting. For him nothing seems to have changed much and even after AV's win over WHU I do not fancy their survival chances much (and certainly not compared to ours). CH has rightly addressed the defence and defensive midfield first. The signings he made in attack in January show sufficient promise that I am confident that we will survive this season. This should leave him free to address his attacking options (including midfield) in more depth in the summer. When it first looked as if PL was leaving, my thoughts turned immediately to CH as the most promising replacement (within the bounds of likelihood) closely followed by Steve Clarke. I have seen nothing to date to persuade me otherwise. CH's goalkeeping decisions do seem to have been proved rational, albeit with the benefit of hindsight. But I do still struggle with the very late attacking substitutions - perhaps he feels that his alternatives are not really likely to make much of an impact (exception for KK at the weekend as he was so fresh in).

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    ScotCan

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Would I get my posting through if I was Ged Steroo? Part three Give the man his due, he is not going to please majority of the fans but has to work within the remit given him by McNasty. I am sure he knows the problems and wants to do something about it but he cannot afford to gamble, the risk of going down is too great, just simply look down the road at Portaloo Road! In the summer hopefully having survived money will be more plentiful, not so much pressure and players cheaper to buy, sure the man will come up smelling of roses, get off his back and stop moaning, if not that will be the time to cast votes! I rest my defence.

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Point taken wactor. The fact is we have players who are doing their best. If I wanted to criticise. it would be. Where is our scouting team (look at Newcastle)?. We change things when its too late. Finally when are we going to do something about the wrestling before a corner. OTBC

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    sharky

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • waclor, the Joe Stalin analogy - spot on! If the inflatable canary\yellow & green acrylic wig brigade had their way, only their opinion would count. We must stand up to them, in the way they stand up in front of other folk trying to watch the football!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Nice to see most of you on here have nailed your colours to the mast. Thanks for not helping Norwich City football club in the slightest. Go and Support Ipswich.

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    Steady On

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • 61 winless days now

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    blue tractor

    Thursday, February 14, 2013

  • Celtic lost tonight but at least they gave it a go which kept their supporters in good voice. Quite a difference between what we saw tonight and the past few performances from Norwich, who do nothing to raise the crowd. Incidentally even Dartford can beat Luton Town!!!

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    malaga flier

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Stand back and be prepared for some right stick if you don't keep us up. just as much as praise if you do

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    gordon52

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • There will still be many w*nkers who berate him when he keeps us up and who will say, 'thanks Chris, now do one'. Same donkeys who want Holloway etc (yes the guy who's taken Palace from top to about 5th6th in the Championship since joining)

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    YorkCanary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Who saw the Celtic game on tv last eve, that Gary Hooper looked like Morison !!!! lazy, slow and fookn useless !

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    Colby Army!

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Time for a change,we are going down,this current team are without doubt the most boring side in the PL.thanks to CH and his negattivity. One goal in the last six games says it all. Sat game was dross a great chance missed to get three points against a very poor Fulham team. Ch is fixated by playing one up front and is clearly not prepared to change,if we don't concede we don't lose.has anyone said CH if you don't score you don't win. 29 points won't keep us up, welcome to the championship wonder what reception you will receive at Birmingham

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    Essex yellow

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Archant staff trolls are getting REALLY dull.

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    DocOhNo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Wactor said it all. "We all love knockers". It might be ok for him and about 3 others, but please omit the all. Lots of it is pure criticism with no knowledge.

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    sharky

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • I'm sorry Mr.Hughton but I think you're missing the point completely. The reason you have come in for so much criticism is that we'll meaning supporters have been trying to influence you about the negative tactics being used at the moment and for the club to purchase a decent striker in the transfer window. Unfortunately they failed to influence the club or you on both counts and the team has carried on producing bad performances. There is a saying in football that you are only as good as your last game and that in the case of Norwich City is pretty grim to say the least!!!!!

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    VictorM

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Fair comments Malcolm Holmes .

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    Lobbo

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Interesting piece of criticism Timbo. Is everyone you disagree with an Ipswich fan?

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    DocOhNo

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • First of all Sharky, you missed the double entendre on knockers, but nevermind. I admit and have admitted in previous posts that there will be facts of which we are unaware but we can all add up points and speculate on future points to be gained and be worried. We can see the lack of goals in the pre season games and hope the manager will do something about it. We can get frustrated when the August window comes and goes with no strengthening of the strikeforce. We can console ourselves with the thought as hinted at by CH himself ("Better value abroad") that a foreign striker has been identified to be signed in January. We can see points slipping away and the football getting more and more boring. You can see it too but you choose to remain optimistic. I sincerely hope you are right and we are above 17th place in the PL come next November. One final point is that some of the contributors here must be of the view that only politicians should be allowed to vote. That's how Joseph Stalin came to power.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • So we've finally got to the point where we've run out of things to either rave about or rant about . Instead we've turned each other , slinging names about because we disagree with the opinions of others , and that brings us to the humble opinion , an individual and personal thing that we are all free to express . Lets go back to lighthearted and entertaining banter , and leave the bickering to those that frequent portaloo road .

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    mjc75

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Watching Celtic v Juventus its great to see the home not frightened to get into the oppositions half and attack at every opportunity. Hope Ch is also watching this match please CH take note.

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    Essex yellow

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Well lets see...26 games gone 29 points to the good and we sit in 14th (and a single point separates us from the team in 11th). 12 games remain and another 36 PL points still to fight for. Probably another 9 more points will keep us up. We are averaging 1.115 points a game - so statistically, if we keep this up we will probably expect to collect another 13 Points, which will take us to 42 and that should 'comfortably' keep us up ! I think that we will see some impact from our new strikers in the coming few weeks too. Get this season over then you will see Hoots start to build a side ready to move onwards and upwards next season. OTBC

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    Dubai Canary

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • These comments are incredible. I love reading them. At least tonight there seems to be a bit more balance between those who want Hughton out, to be replaced by god knows who, and those who want him to stay. Maybe, the replacement is hidden in these columns, as there do seem to be some incredible managers in waiting here. As for me, I must admit that 3 out of the last 4 games I've been to have not been great to watch, but personally I put a lot of the blame with the quality and ability of a good few of our players. Too many want one touch more than you get in the Prem, several seem scared and unwilling to shoot, and at least a couple just are not good enough. But despite the failings, we should and must support ALL of the team to help them stay in the Prem. Otherwise, if we all turn against the club, or part of it, we will be equally to blame if the r word becomes a reality. Despite all of this, on Saturday, there was still a lot of vocal support for Hughton, from both the Snake Pit and Barclay. City till I die!!

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    Malcolm Holmes

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • At the risk of rattling a few cages here goes. The postings by TJB East, Manc Canary, Jim Bob and Scot Can are true and acceptable. Lambert and his "We will score one more goal than you to win" would have sunk us to a similar level and struggle that Villa have now. Hoots has come in to cobble together and stabilise with little or no money, he could not risk the club with another big debt. This club nearly went to the wall a little while ago, QPR are spending money like water, their judgement is yet to come, do we honestly want that again at the carra? Give the man his due, he is not going to please majority of the fans but has to work within the remit given him by McNasty. I am sure he knows the problems and wants to do something about it but he cannot afford to gamble, the risk of going down is too great, just simply look down the road at Portaloo Road! In the summer hopefully having survived money will be more plentiful, not so much pressure and players cheaper to buy, sure the man will come up smelling of roses, get off his back and stop moaning, if not that will be the time to cast votes! I rest my defence.

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    blackdog2

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • The same whingers are the ones that were in awe of him when we beat Manchester united. If we win our next game you will fizzle away like the fickle "fans" you are.

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    Steady On

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Agree b arclay. Dont worry our manager doesnt read these posts. If he did we would be relegated by now. If we had wasted money like QPR we would have something to shout about. OTBC

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • tjb_east, that was a blindingly good summary.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • A disappointing night for both Celtic and Hooper. Some handbags from the Juventus defenders led to Hooper finishing up in the net early on and not the ball - put there by the player himself. City are weak up front but there was no guarantee Hooper would have solved our problems on the final third.

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    Capri

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Keep going Mr Hughton. Ignore the whingers. Most of us do.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Hoolahan is a creator not a scorer. mmmm Didnt he score a great goal for his country recently. Also very unlucky vs QPR. Without him we are not good.

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Celtic played the ball about better than City and took shots on goal. If you don't shoot you don't score. City lack players who can score from distance. City have more chance of staying up than Luton have of going up.

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    Capri

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Know what Blue Tractor? Tomorrow will be 62. You're doing rather well at those adult numeracy classes aren't you? Good Boy

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 14, 2013

  • since last league win . . . 60 (sixty) days and counting . . .

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    blue tractor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • Know what Blue Tractor? Tomorrow will be 62. You're doing rather well at those adult numeracy classes aren't you? Good Boy

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 14, 2013

  • Oh yes and I knew the REAL Johnny Gavin. What a player we were lucky to have. And I remember seeing us beat Man U 3-0 on the snow. Also remember Hansell who recently died. We are playing in the best league in the world and we have to accept all the difficulties. To keep slagging people off by people who know so little is not on.

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • The real "Elephant in the room" is that, for whatever reason, Chris Hughton and his backroom team have not been taken to the heart of Norfolk people and City supporters in particular. Difficult to put a finger on why this should be but the rants on Canary Call when we fail to win is just one example. Nice guy? Undoubtedly. Everyone says so, so it must be true - mustn't it? Much more amiable than his predecessor? Clearly. So, what is it about Chris Hughton and his team that seems somehow transient? Sadly, I'm not sure even staying up will make any difference to the way supporters see the "Holy Trinity".

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    Mikey B

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Judge you at the end of the season-----it might be too late then----i'll judge you now----OUT OF YOUR DEPTH.

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    superfan59

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Wasn't last night a brilliant example of wrestling at corners being condoned by referees? He booked one player from each side just before a Celtic corner then completely ignored the same defender continuing to commit an act more like sexual assault than football defending. But then why do we not have the spy in the sky to help referees? Not only is the game very quick nowadays but the players are so adept at cheating and refs are castigated for evry wrong decision, like I did above for example. Two refs in front of TV monitors helping the man on the pitch would see much more and make many close calls into a shared decision. Cut out the cheating and make it a beautiful game again.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • tjb_east - hit's the nail on the head. If I'm not mistaken we're not in the relegation zone, we're 6 points above it. I would understand these comments if we'd been in the bottom 3 all season. We're not far off where we were with Lambert last season, and you certainly weren't calling for his head at this stage of the season were you? Yes we're in poor form at the moment, but realistically we're always going to have rough patches. If you want to support a team that will perform and win almost every game, then you can always stay at home and watch Man Utd on the telly can't you? Or, you can support the underdog.

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    MancCanary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I remember back in August all most all supporters wanted was to survive in the Prem. this season, now they are all moaning about being 14th in the league. Consistancy is obviously not Citys supporters strong point. Come on you Yellows.

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    goldie

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • I think they thought the two standing near the goal would help, but they have proved weak. What do they do? I,ve always subscribed to captains being allowed to ask for contentious issues being looked at again. (Similar to tennis). Maybe a couple of times a game, so the game is not continually stopped for things like corners etc. A ref by a screen and radio mic. So easy. If they can change the rule in Spain for handball why cant we, so the smaller teams get decisions they dont normally get?

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    sharky

    Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  • …..another one after free bird seed?.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • The reality is that we, the fans are reacting to the lack of ambition and negativity on the pitch. If Chris Hughton turns things round, and ensures our Premier League status, hopefully in style, not by the skin of our teeth, then he will be a hero. If things continue in this downbeat, and defeatist manner, and we get relegation, Chris Hughton will become the victim of a hate campaign, similar to the shameful display at Blackburn Rovers last season..............................Bottom line?? He gets paid the big bucks....he must deliver....or go!

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    Algarve Canary

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • End of the season when it is too late huh? Yeah the usual great thinking Einstein

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Pa Snipps that is brilliant, thank you on behalf of all those who do not subscribe to the "Trust the manager and we'll be all right" school of thinking. Worthington's pathetically timid attempt to keep us in the premier is a very apt comparison: "We're only Norwich. We shouldn't really be here. Try not to score a goal or they'll notice us and get angry". I agree that Norwich would probably not be any better off if Lambert was still the manager but the point is that we could be much better placed today if Hughton showed some guts. How long before Snodgrass gets totally frustrated with there being no strikers making moves in front of him to get on the end of his passes? Hughton selects the players he wants for the squad, Hughton is responsible for training the players and devising the tactics, Hughton picks the team and Hughton decides on tacticalpersonnel changes during the match. Towards each of these responsibilities he has shown an approach totally lacking in ambition. He has made some good acquisitions eg Bassong and the defence look much tighter than last season. However his habit of praising the opposition must demotivate the players most of whom are performing worse under him than they did under Lambert. The lack of self belief and killer instinct may yet get us relegated six point cushion or not. Next time we set out our stall for a goalless draw, the opposition may not read the script and may just nick it at the end. Another Luton anyone?

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • If I was a player for this club sitting in a posh hotel now sipping on a nice cool drink I would have to say my piece on this two week break from P.L.football and tell the trio of leaders where their going wrong and get the rest of the team to back me up. Why doesnt someone tell them a few home truths and ideas .Would H ughton and Bewilderwood listen ....I wonder ?

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    yarco

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • Interesting debates here between the "Hughton is a football genius" and the "Get the idiot out" parties. They are both the extreme views. Most fans, although their opinions are one side or other of the fence neither want Hughton out nor canonised. Speaking personally I am extremely worried that his negative tactics will take Norwich down. Twelve more goalless draws would give a points total of 41 but when you consider away games at Man U, Man C and Arsenal. Visits from Everton and much improved West Brom and a nasty visit to Sunderland, you could be looking at relegation with 35 points. The consistent failure to beat teams who on the day are worse than Norwich is haemorrhaging points and the anti Hughton party put this down to (a) the single striker selection and (b) the failure to take the bull by the horns and make changes to break a stalemate situation. Of course the "Only Little Norwich" faction are prepared to accept anything but I think Hughton could have done better to solve a problem which has been obvious since the pre season matches.

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    waclor

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • And some bad ones. So its ok to lose 3-0 everytime. OTBC

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    sharky

    Tuesday, February 12, 2013

  • You can say that again waclor

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    blue tractor

    Thursday, February 14, 2013

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