History-maker Neil Adams is proving the Norwich City doubters wrong

Norwich manager Neil Adams savours the feeling as a derby winning boss. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Norwich manager Neil Adams savours the feeling as a derby winning boss. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Monday, August 25, 2014
7:26 AM

Neil Adams knows derby day success over Ipswich may help convince the doubters he is the right manager to lead Norwich City to Championship promotion success.

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Neil Adams is the first man since Norman Low to play and manage a Norwich City side to league wins at Portman Road.

Low captained Norwich to victory at Ipswich in 1947-48 (2-1) and 1948-49 (2-1), and was manager for victories in 1950-51 (1-0) and 1951-52 (2-0). All four games were in Division Three South. John Deehan played in a League Cup fourth round win in 1983-84 and managed a side that included Adams which won at Ipswich in the league in 1994-95.

• Statistics courtesy of David Cuffley

Adams became the first man in more than 60 years to play and now manage a City side to league wins at Portman Road following Lewis Grabban’s first half header.

The current City boss matched Norman Low’s achievements from the club’s Division Three South days, and the scale of that special feat was matched by his own celebrations at full-time.

“It feels just the same as a player,” said Adams. “You never tire of winning games of football but I know and so do the players what this fixture means to the fans. We had 2,100 here, who were brilliant, and 25,000 and more watching and listening back home so it’s a great feeling. I have always had a fantastic relationship with the fans. They go back up the road with smiles on their faces and that is what we said at the start of the season we wanted to do.

“It’s all about results. I know I can’t keep everyone happy and there may have been people who raised a few eyebrows when I got the job but if we win games people will be happy. Is there pressure on me every game? Of course. Norwich is a Premier League-sized club and we should be in that division.”

Adams was adamant Norwich were worthy of claiming the derby spoils.

“Overall I thought we deserved to win the game and I was delighted with the victory,” he said. “We showed a lot of composure. I was pleased how we managed the game. We needed to be better in the first half and I said to the players (at half-time) we didn’t move the ball as quickly or as sharply as we had to. Even though we were winning the game I felt we could step it up and the lads did, to be fair. Defensively throughout the game we were excellent but we could have added one or two more goals in that second half.”

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  • Worldwide it would be huge. For every STD in Naarfuk, there is an ordinary person who loves NCFC but has other things to do, like B&Q or work or spending time with their family. Anyway, the ground is full! I would guesstimate the total Fan-base to be somewhere between 46,000 and Infinity. Michael D - it`s not a Class Debate, it`s a lack of `class` statement! The entire expat populations of Dubai and Yabba Dabba Abu Dhabi support NCFC, but they are not deemed to be `real` supporters by some. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • Michael D it would be interesting to get some stats on the numbers world-wide, any chance Archant will conduct a poll to find out the numbers? OTBC

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    Jakarta Canary

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • Actually, my original comment - which was sidetracked with the subsequent class debate on STDs! - was merely to highlight that in talking about only 25,000 supporters watching or listening at home to the derby match, Neil Adams was horribly underestimating the figure. I have no idea how high the actual figure would have been - how many Canary supporters one way or another were keeping track of the match - but it would be very interesting to have a sense of how large that number was!

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    Michael D

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • Good morning MikelSA (IS it still morning in SA??). Yes, the trouble with humour\satire\sarcasm\irony\tongue-in-cheek comments in electro-print, is that they cannot be underpinned by facial expressions or vocal inflections! The history of the STD Satire has its roots in an occasional method of "winning" an argument, used by some STDs. Once it has dawned, even on them, that they are losing the debate, they resort to accusing the winner of being an armchair supporter, a binner, a troll or a `moaner`, and by brandishing their STD `status` for all to admire. A one-upmanship position, from mere STD status, is Shareholder Status (SS). Even the normally urbane DJ_F couldn`t resist that temptation... Drop in the odd `chance` remark about a seat in the Directors` Box and you just about have the flavour of it. It`s "poor man`s name-dropping". Anyway, must rush; my Tesco shopping is being delivered in a van disguised as a Harvey Nick`s vehicle. Trouble is, nobody round here has heard of Harvey Nick`s... Still I`ll take a `selfie` with it in the background. That should impress my lunch guests, StevieF & StephanP ... :-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • alanclark, I stand corrected. I was also at the '75 Villa game (and the ManU league and cup matches) so should have known better. 72 was just turn up on the day so I guess crowds were less predictable. I remember walking up Carrow Road for the first time when cars drove on one lane and fans the other. Someone got their foot run over which for an 11 old was quite dramatic!

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • No offence taken MB. Your humour slipped over my head, but now I see where you're coming from...

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    MikelSA

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • I take my hat off, well if I wore one, to NA and I am lining up my humble pie feast for this evening. Whilst we have a long way to the end of the season the way NA has changed it around after Wolves needs to be praised. I still think we are not quite the finished article yet as I have concerns over our depth at the back but the seeds are there. On the matter of the STD issue - I am a season ticket holder of many years, although now lucky to see 3 games a year at Carra Road, I do not think I have any more or less rights than other supporters to vent my feelings here. I just feel privileged to have the Season Ticket and it is used by family if I am not about so to ensure support at all times. OTBC

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    Jakarta Canary

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • DJ that Everton match was no where near a sell out as I got the pinkun for that night,pased on to me, and there is a comment by the reporter on how disappointing the attendance was! Also there loads more 30+ crowds after that date like the 35.999 against villa in 75 and a couple against Man U and a palace match...in the early 80's a pinkun gives the att for a match against 1p5wich as 29,000 and comments on it being a sellout,so the reduction must've come around then..STEELY yes think you are right.

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    alan clark

    Tuesday, August 26, 2014

  • Dubia, I think capacity was lower than that already. My first game was the first ever division 1 match against Everton in '72 and that I believe was a sell-out at 25,851. 30+ were well before that time.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I remember watching a game vs. 1p5wich at Carrow Road - I think it may have been on Boxing Day around mid-70's - when the South Stand was all standing. I believe there was about 34,000 watching that day, probably the largest crowd I've seen for any home game.

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    Dubai Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Alan I think the City Stand in fills were done in the early 90's. Also I doubt they would have reduced the capacity much as they were being built on 'thin air' as it were. I know when the South Stand was demolished in 2003 capacity went down to about 16k from around 22k.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Steely...did you take into account the corner fill reducing cap to Barclay etc while being built...then few years later the other corner etc? when we bear them 3 nil I couldn't get a ticket but managed to blah my way into a commercial box....ps both those corner fills, took ages to complete!

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    alan clark

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Well done NA and NCFC. I was a doubter and a critic but it was a great win.

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    suffolkcanary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • MB, will eventually be a ST holder myself but need to wait another 15 years before I retire to the Norfolk coast somewhere. Until then, my 4-8 games a season from Brussels will have to suffice as a 'part-time' supporter. There is also the not so small matter of my NCFC share certificate proudly displayed in the entrance hall. Looking forward to seeing the line-up tomorrow. Almost certain starts for the 2 new boys and maybe a couple of other changes. Hope we treat the Capital Cup seriously. Was so frustrating year before last when we could have realistically won it given the make-up of the last 8 only to put the reserves out against Lamberts Villa and deservedly get a spanking and not the sort I like to pay for.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Bo Foggo, fully agree, its early days yet, good football for the last 3 games. maybe not his fault but when you manage a team and you say you want to keep a player (fer) and say its not your decision when a bid comes in and accepted I find that hard to take, which takes me to your other comment about him being a very nice man...hmm maybe too nice but I hope not.

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    Jimhow

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Dubai - if you delved back a little into City's past i.e. the second half of the 90's , early '00's we didn't fill the Carra for the derby. I have looked at several years and we used to get 17 or 18k when the capacity was 23 to 24k. In fact sometimes it wasn't even the highest attendance of the season. Hammering down with rain here with a chilly breeze in the air.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • What a contrast our end of season run-in is compared to the last one. Sheff. Weds (H), Bolton (A), Leeds (A), Boro (H), Rotherham (A), Fulham (H).

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I wonder what impact being in the lower echelons of the league will have on ITFC's expenditure by the end of the transfer window .......... can they really afford to increase their £85 mill debt?

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Don't worry MB - we knew you were not being nasty!

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    Cape Town Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Look at all those empty blue plastic seats behind NA !

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    Dubai Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Satire is not everybody`s cup of tea, DJ_F. But that shouldn`t necessarily condemn it to your b*******s bin. With all due respect, and in the best possible taste, of course. `More votes for the decent people`. (Catch-22). Animal Farm. Etc, etc. Gruff, apparently you can shop on-line at Tesco, and they`ll deliver the stuff. They`ll even disguise the delivery vehicle to match your aspirational status. Harrod`s. Fortnum & Mason. Roy`s of Hoveton...

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • N A has made a good start , after the nightmare final fixtures of last season and the Wolves game , but let's not get too excited too quickly . NCFC's traditional season over several decades is to do well before Christmas ( with or without cup runs ) , fade away afterwards ( Delia's Xmas pud is blamed nowadays ) fight a relegation battle over Easter , and win 2 from the last 3 to finish somewhere mid-table . Hope for the best , but prepare for the worst . It is still very early days . I truly hope we have found the new Ken Brown - Dave Stringer , and that Neil Adams ( who is very obviously a very-nice-man ) brings us the free-flowing passing game that was a joy to watch under those two , and success along the way .

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    Bring on Foggo

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • BPBP. A victory at Fulham will be more than nice - it will be great birthday present for me!! I think the game at Cardiff (13Sep) will provide a major pointer to how we are progressing.

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    zebbee

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • No Tesco within miles.. guess I'll never get to voice my opinion

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    Gruff

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Talking of Fulham Zebbee, I sense we might be due an away win there, although they will probably have a new manager by the time we play them

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    Bill Punton's bald patch

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • How many season ticket holders will be there tomorrow? Got my first season 59 years ago. £6.50 a year I think. A reward for passing my 11+

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    Pondlife

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Pondlife, think of it like deliberately stepping on a t*rd on our way to the top. Mmm... squelch

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    Bill Punton's bald patch

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Whoops. Noriwich are now the bookies favourites for the title. Lets not get too carried away tho. I'll settle for promotion - especially as I have £25 on them at 4\1!!. Not surprisingly, pre-season favourites Fulham have now slipped way back to 33\1). Off topic but re Adam Adamant. A factoid. Produced by Verity Lambert who also gave us Doctor Who and the Daleks.

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    zebbee

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I think the wins against Blackburn & Watford are more significant than a single goal win against a mediocre championship side who have rarely managed a top half finish in 12 years. Can't see Dipsticks worrying too many sides. God bless Marcus Evans -long may he ruin

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    Pondlife

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • MB not sure where your 'real' supporters comment came from but with respect it's total b********.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Apologies, CornwallCanary\MikelSA. My comment was pure sarcasm, aimed at the "Only we STDs are Real Fans" brigade. You`ll see their petty `status` conscious stuff from time to time. Most STDs are OK, but a lot of them seem to see a Season Ticket as some kind sort of mark of distinction. Sad, really. Mind you, I feel the same way about my lofty Tesco Clubcard Plus status. Those who only have ordinary, peripheral Clubcards should know their place!! Back of the queue. No opinions allowed! Btw; ponder on "STD"... ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I doubted he could keep us in the PL (but I'm hardly in a minority on that one), but I have no doubt he can at least get us into the play-offs, if not straight promotion, if not champions! By the way, I am one of at least a dozen city fans (that I know of) who happen to live in South Africa. We're not season ticket holders and we don't get to many games, but we all sit round the TV or computer to follow every minute of every game, and we're just as big a city fans as any season ticket holder you can mention.

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    MikelSA

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Nathan, why move from a footballing promotion prospect to a thug-ball and diving relegation prospect? At least you can be helped to put in a shot at the end of a run into the box rather than a dive if you stay at Norwich.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • where are the trolls?

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    bluelight

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Not sure I agree with you MB about season ticket holders being the 'only real supporters'. There are plenty of us who live many hundreds if not thousands of miles away or because of many other reasons cannot be at Carrow Road on every match day. Absence does not equal lack of support or passion for the team to do well.

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    Cornwall Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Another Lincs Canary - perhaps Redmond thinks he will improve his career by going to a " success" story as did Leroy Fer ? Depends who is whispering in his ear, his agent, other teams scouts, Bassong?

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    kenfoggo

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Michael D; only Season Ticket Denizens (STDs) are `real` supporters. The rest are peripheral... Dubya; this weekend, two film versions of "Pollyanna" have been shown on Freeview channels. Today`s version stars that former 1p5wich player and child prodigy, Hayley Mills. Factoid ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • That comment of Neil Adams is wrong. Norwich have a lot more supporters than the 2,100 who attended the Ipswich game, and the 25,000 'back home' who normally attend home games. The club has many, many more supporters than those who are able to attend matches at Carrow Road regularly, so it would be interesting to know much more nearly what the real figure is!

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    Michael D

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Did anyone else notice that Redmond spent a lot of time applauding the fans after the game....and was the last the walk away....hmmmm

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    Another Lincs Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Egyptian; I was young. There`s no guarantee that those who still are will get to be as old as I am. Just a thought ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Paul good to see you in a better mood after your gripes of last week. We have social gatherings of comment makers ,normally at lunchtime in a pub in the city. Next on some time in September so if you are around pop along. Igno ,below is coming too.Never really understood what the programme Adam Adamant was about. Gerald Harper was what you would call debonair similar to our own Fagan. I never understood the Avengers although I did get the Prisoner. RIP Dickie.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I certainly hope we hold on to all our players now. I have to say that on Saturday Redmond didn't do a lot to boost his price or attractiveness to other teams. He is a great prospect for the future but is definitely NOT the finished article.

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    PaulWho

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • So, Sky this morning are suggesting that Hull are having another crack at Rhodes (anything to do with the Snodgrass situation one wonders) and that Stoke are reviving their interest in Redmond. As we enter the "home straight" in the Transfer madness let's hope that Adams is not subject to the old Chinese curse of "may you live in interesting times" and that the Board live up to the "we don't need to sell" mantra. Faint hope I know, but wouldn't it just be the icing on last week's cake?

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    Igno Rance

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I'll hold my hands up to those feelings too, Egyptian. I do think though that most of us would have been supporting Adams as he was an eminently popular player and has been passionate about our club for a long time. I like him as a man, but the proof as to whether he can succeed will come, as ever, over time.

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    Preston Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I think it's the reaction of Adams and the players after the opening day loss that has pleased me most. The decision to change formation and personal shows me that he has a plan B and onwards. We will lose in this league, but its how you react is key, with games coming thick and fast things can change instantaneously. We have shown encouraging signs in the last three games, could and should have scored more at our Suffolk rivals but if that is the only complaint, keep em coming! Looking forward to the return of Olsson and Howsan. Any news on the elusive Gary Hooper?

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    London_Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • MB my mum told me about Adam Adament because at my very tender age I don't know who he was. HO HO!! Kristafa I was the same as you when PL was appointed but, when Hoots was appointed I thought he would be good for us but, hey how wrong I was. Neil is Canary through and through.

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    Egyptian canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Despite all the concerns expressed, the club has put in strong foundations all the way from the academy to the first team and Neil has brought the belief and match-winning tactics back. Early days yet but at present we look resourceful enough to at least make the play-offs and the team is still developing. This foundation should be good for the PL and is certainly more stable that the creaking ship that we had last season. Surely we can close the outward facing door now, with the exception of resolving the Bassong situation and sorting out something appropriate for Surs and Beccio.

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    Swiss Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Yes, no doubt Neil Adams has brought back the feel-good factor and has set his stall out to play attractive, attacking, football and score goals. I was undecided about his appointment but am pleased to say so far he has justified his selection. The recent additions have, for me, more than made up for the outgoings and will hlep us achieve a more balanced team and also, crucially,quality in depth. There will obviously be setbacks - we won't win all our games for sure. But at least we the team will give us something to shout about - such a change from last season when Hughton's tactics just about froze the blood! Well done, Neil. Keep it going!

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    malaga flier

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • It is good to see NA getting things right and hopefully he will prove us doubters wrong. Certainly he has had a good a week and let's hope that he goes on to consolidate his position by bringing success this season. Now we just need a bit more magic in the transfer market with hopefully no more going out.

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    Dubai Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • I cannot see the point of this Blame Game culture, we are where we are so lets rejoice and get on with it. Yes we have had three very good wins on the trot but had luck gone the other way that could have been so different as football is a game of fine margins. Worrying about ifs and buts should be left to the end of the season, meanwhile, lets all look forward to the next couple of games, hopefully with yet more win's under Neil's belt. It is far too early to crow just yet, the team simply needs to keep the feel good factor rolling, OTBC.

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    TrevorKeith

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Doubters are essential for balance! No doubts = No thought processes. Of course, we on the periphery lack Padster`s insider knowledge. I`m with Kristafa, too. When Lambo was appointed, my first reaction was "Who??". The rest, as the cliché merchants would say, is history. Good to see Adams was Adamant, not merely insistent. Anybody remember that old TV series "Adam Adamant Lives!", about a cryogenically preserved Edwardian `gentleman detective` type person? Starred Gerald Harper. OMG, didn`t Mike Myers rip that off for his Austin Powers films! I doubt young Paddy would remember Adamant, unless he is a cryogenically preserved, New Elizabethan journo from the `60s.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Same as me Kristafa. Amazing what a bit of confidence can do. OTBC

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • Early days, plenty of time for slip ups, but the signs are good. Much more hopeful than I was a couple of weeks ago.

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    Cornwall Canary

    Monday, August 25, 2014

  • When Neil was appointed I was not impressed but had the same feeling when Paul Lambert was first announced .. so what do I know ! .. here,s hoping for a similar outcome, without the nasty taste at the end.

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    Kristafa

    Monday, August 25, 2014

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