False start has not shaken Norwich City boss Neil Adams’ promotion beliefs

Andrew Surman, Michael Turner and John Ruddy canno0t hide their disappointment at Molineux. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images Andrew Surman, Michael Turner and John Ruddy canno0t hide their disappointment at Molineux. Picture: Paul Chesterton / Focus Images

Wednesday, August 13, 2014
6:30 AM

Neil Adams is adamant Norwich City’s false start at Wolves will not shake his belief the Canaries can have a major say in the Championship promotion scrap.

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The City boss is targeting home games against Watford and Blackburn to get Norwich up and running after a sour defeat at Molineux compounded by Martin Olsson’s red card and later FA charge.

“We have two home games now, two full houses and we have to get the ball rolling,” he said. “We are looking at the season and getting over that 80 or 85 point mark is paramount, scoring 80 odd goals is paramount. We have two good opportunities in the next two games and we have to get the points on the board. We know we will have vocal backing and we must make sure we do what is required.

“Am I expecting promotion? We are good enough, we have the players capable of doing that so that has to be the target. Yes, I expect to be in the promotion race. We have to guard against any complacency but we should be up their in the mix.

“Whether it brings any added pressure is irrelevant. A club of this size with the amount of season tickets we sell should expect that level of scrutiny.”

Adams believes emulating QPR’s feat last season of bouncing back at the first attempt must be the main goal.

“The statistics tell you the best chance you have to get back is usually the first time of asking,” he said.

“As the years go by you start to lose your parachute payments and probably your players and we’ve been fortunate, we’ve kept the ones we want to have a crack at it.

“It’s not going to be easy. If we can get into that mentality of trying to win every game then you give yourself a chance. You look at Leicester and Burnley last season and I know the points and the goals they scored. You need to average just under two goals a game and if you get two points per game on average you are up.”

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  • Another block. Machianallian machinations...

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • Btw; Tunbridge - Yossarian was a "moaner". Minderbinder was a "happy clapper". Who would you rather trust?

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • Royal Tunbridge Canary, I Well enjoyed that comment. Repeated attempts to respond have been blocked by Archie. PS. They`ll be selling Minderbinder Brand chocolate coated cotton at Carra Catering. M&M Enterprises....

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • Tunbridge Wells Canary; that was a right Royal comment! Yossarian would be a better choice as Skipper than Milo Minderbinder, for sure. I think Yoss is probably a "Moaner" and Milo is a "Happy Clapper". I know which one I would trust! I wonder if they`ll be selling chocolate coated cotton at Carra Catering this season? Or improving efficiency by getting our forwards to "strafe" their own defenders? Not a lot of threat there... ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • Mellow Yellow - we all want Neil Adams to do well. He promised attacking, attractive, watchable football. We did not get that at Wolves. Accolades and praise will ensue when Neil Adams produces what he promised. But after another dire performance in the first game of the new season nobody can say they have a warm, fuzzy feeling about the season ahead. Hughton was sacked for producing that kind of dross.

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    kenfoggo

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • @ Egyptian.....I agree entirely. This forum makes for some quite concerning reading most days. The same names seem hell-bent on doing nothing but to spread negativity. The guy has been given a chance and in my view he deserves our support. Instead there are those that get pleasure from finding fault at every step and will only be happy once he has been sacked. This after one proper game in charge. It's all very sad really.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • @ Colin....Thanks for that essential piece of advice. You know what? Adams should now be sacked for not watching enough telly!

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • On the Pilks affair I seem to remember a lot of negative comments a while ago one of which accused him of hurting himself getting in and out of his Range Rover. Now if he goes he is the best attacking option we have.

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    Egyptian canary

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • NA is on a loser before a ball is kicked. If we start with what would be regarded as a first team the comments will be something along the lines of " well It took a strong team to beat Crawley". If we don't then it will be "well they couldn't even beat them". If he fields his so called fringe players and wins all well and good but, if not it will be " even the fringe players can't beat Crawley".

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    Egyptian canary

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • "Statistics show your best chance of bouncing back is at the first time of asking". He obviously missed the BBC article last week showing that the last two teams to get automatic promotion were West Brom and Newcastle in 2010. No one has achieved that in 2011, 2012, 2013 or 2014, with West Ham and QPR doing it through the play-offs. So out of 15 teams to go down, only 4 have gone straight back and only 2 automatically.

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    Colin

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • You can't read anything into League Cup results. Just look at our win v Bury last year. Did that mean we'd go on to be a major attacking threat and Elmander a potent goal-threat? No, not in the least.

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    Colin

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • MB - perhaps Yossarian should be appointed as club captain!

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    Tunbridge Wells Canary

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • Northampton beat Wolves ! NORTHAMPTON!?!? I can't see much hope for anything good happening for Norwich this season.

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    kenfoggo

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • VM - Wolves made eight changes to their starting line up for the cup, so I suspect they're concentrating on the league...

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    Tunbridge Wells Canary

    Thursday, August 14, 2014

  • It was a paraphrase of something attributed to Dolores Ibbarruri, aka La Pasionaria. (Amongst others). In `Catch 22`, an evil old man inverted it into the version you mention, Gruff. You must be a fan of that Heller novel, as am I! All they have to do at Ar chant is say nice things about NCFC. Then they`ll be allowed to go home safely. This is so much better than flogging a dead horse. Thanks Gruff. Really ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Gruff

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

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    Gruff

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Lovely..Church is full every weekend again and already those who live on the far side of the planet from Naarfak are 'so called fans'. Well at least you're powerless to put a match under someone's a**e for daring to question your loyal opinion. Have you swapped Chris for Neil...?Mellow you aint'..

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    Gruff

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Surrey Canary I like your new maths set up but what won the World Cup was speed and accuracy neither qualities we showed on Sunday. Redmond is fast but the end ball was awful. Pilks going won't make any difference. He's lost a lot of pace since his injuries. Mind you who can forget his 29 man move goal v Sunderland 2 years ago?

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    Bogaz John

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • If you`re not shaken, Neil, could you at least try to be stirred? Or pretend? I`m getting deja vu about your days of droning out complacent yellow-specs stuff on Partridge Radio. I found myself shouting "shut up" every time you assured we simple listeners that City were taking control of a game they were clearly out of. Man up and stop appeasing Hyacinth. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees?

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Last nights result sums it up Wolves 2 Northampton 3 how can they win there when we were made to look toothless seems to me that all you have to do against us is play 2 banks of 4 and all our potential is nullified where was plan B and C last Sunday ?

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    Victor meldrew

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Hi Gibbo. Thanks for your comment on the cheating issue. I was beginning to think I was alone. Sorry about the 5-a-side. I thought Steely Dan was in charge, he thought I was, and everybody else thought it was Barking Wise, who Archie has banned for being interesting. Also in mitigation, I was peripheralised for kicking Bishop Bowkett up the *rs*... ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Don't see selling Pilks to a rival as a bad decision Suffolk. Let them pay his sick money, he's probably uninsurable.

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    cutty

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • The first game may not have dented NA's belief in NCFC gaining promotion to the prem this season ( well he would say that , wouldn't he ? ) but it certainly shook mine , what we got was another lacklustre performance like so many last year . If the team cant regain the sort of fire we saw in the Lambert years then there is no telling where we will end up . Only the manager can put that into a team . Sort it out Adams !

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    Bring on Foggo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Just seen the Pilks story elsewhere. £1m accepted, following a major disagreement with Adams apparently. I suppose this will be Adams fault as well.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Thanks for telling me about Pilkington, Suffolk. I've just seen it confirmed on NewsNow - Western Mail. Is anybody on the Sports Desk this pm Archie?

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • @M_Y sorry I didn't express exactly what I meant. I meant a few of us on these Boards moan inclusively about the suits. I cannot remember ever undermining an NCFC player here because I believe it does nobody any good. Shedloads DO moan about the players - I'm not one of them. I might think it, but I don't publish it:)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • All this talk about 'the Diamond' you just need the midfield to get stuck in-close down quickly then play the attack in!

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    borderman

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • el dingo.....for the record old boy I'm more of dedicated supporter than most who visit this forum. If you don't think the players are being criticised then open your eyes and revisit the posts below and on other pages - its mostly nonsense I know, and very little is based on fact - just opinions from so-called fans who very rarely attend a match. As for the "suits" I personally think that in this day and age we, as a club, are in a very fortunate position. The board are genuine supporters who I believe have the interests of our beloved club at heart, unlike Cardiff, Leeds, Coventry etc etc etc.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Ok I,m going to throw a spanner in the works lol. We will see many teams in the prem' playing three at the back this year. Even Man U. With the players we have available AT THIS TIME. It could work for us. I dont think the diamond will work for us. We looked light weight. Pick your wingbacks and two up top. Go for it. COYY

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    sharky

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Now we sell Pilkington to a promotion rival. The bad decisions at the club keep on coming.

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    suffolkcanary

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • If the team play badly I wish Neil Adams would just say so and not come out with the usual words that we received from Hughton!

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    Albert Cooper

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Maybe we should take a leaf from the world cup - 3 at the back - Martin, Bennet, Garrido, then a pentagon with Johnson and Tettey at base of pentagon covering the central defence and ready to push on as opportunity allows though never both at the same time.

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    Surrey Canary

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • He looked pretty ashen faced in the dug out Sunday afternoon.

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    VictorM

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • And as I can't post on the alleged racism piece, well done to whoever reported the idiots in question - there seems little doubt it happened, but I kind of hope it's not true because in my experience our fans are way above that kind of thing, home or away.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • @M_Y: don't see the connection. Whether you want Neil Adams as manager or not he IS our manager so choosing somebody else is irrelevant. He seemed a nice bloke to me so why shouldn't I say so? Me and my lot will be there on Saturday shouting for the team. We might not over-admire certain members of the Board but hey-ho they're not on the pitch. It's the suits many of us sometimes criticise here, not the players. I love my Club just like I hope you do. Please let it drop and let's all support the team he puts out on Saturday.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Adams don't play Martin in that position again put Ryan Bennett on the field he is a good defender with hight as well and is still developing given play time. Put a team out with energy as that is what you promised with your back room boys, they need to run their ar*ses off and earn their high wages. We have just had two seasons of players strolling about, get it sorted.

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    goldie

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • So in your mind el dingo if he had told those on canary call to f-off and had ignored you and your friends he would be far better qualified to manage the team?

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • @Mellow_Yellow: the way he dealt with, ahem, the experts on Canary Call, his general demeanour on the radio and the fact that I met him once (albeit briefly) a few years ago together with some friends and he spent time to talk to us when he probably had better things to do combine to make me think that if he isn't a nice guy, he does a very good impression of one:)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • As I saw it because of the diamond there is no midfield line protecting the defence. Perhaps the diamond only works if you have a good enough defence?

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    Surrey Canary

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • I agree with Brew who on another posting didn't condone Turner "taking out an opposing forward off the ball" as it is cheating. Resorting to this shows poor positioning, ability and lack of faith in your team mates. Under PL I always felt that RM was a tower of strength at centre back but then he had a good partner. It always comes down to using the Lambert reign as a datum to judge personnel. I think the Mike Walker era was attack in numbers and defend in numbers, a great time to be a supporter like the Archie Macauley era, perhaps we have to be patient and give everyone time to gel as there are players and backroom staff with a lot of experience talent. Brew what happened to the 5 a side competition.

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    Gibbo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Colin.....where's the evidence that Adams is a "nice guy" as you put it? Who is the "best man for the job" in your view?

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • At the risk of attracting ridicule I agree partly with Adams in that our defence is relatively robust. It was just that on Sunday it was badly exposed by an errant midfield. The team was set-up to attack and get goals but Wolves did their homework pretty well, defended very deep, and nullified any threat. Personally I'm just putting it down to first game 'rustiness', and refuse to be drawn into criticising the players or the manager so early.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • I'm concerned that in Adams we once again have another manager who seems to be a nice guy, who Delia would like to do well. But we shouldn't be appointing people because they seem nice and say nice things. We should be appointing the best man for the job. If he turns out to be quite nice too, then fine.

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    Colin

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Some good comments here. The missing midfield was evident. Not only did they not help in defence but they do not seem to understand that when you play one striker (sorry but I cannot count Nathan as a striker), it is essential for midfield players to get into the box for the lay offs and knock downs. If Adams thinks the present defence is sound, to my mind he is proving his inadequacy. He needs a strong central defender who can marshall the defence and lead. Having a right back would be nice. If Martin's move to the middle is really prompted by the suggestion that he is no longer quick enough to play at right back, what makes Adams think that he is quick enough to partner Mr Slow Motion Turner? I have posted before: If Adams is not looking for a central defender and right back, he should start looking for a new career.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Heard the same as Bogaz John. Obviously can't substantiate it tho.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • An possible alternative view...if Wolves produce impressive results over the next three of four games, might it not be considered that a 0-1 away loss with ten men, a significant injury list, two key midfielders unavailable and a sub standard performance on the day isn't necessarily cause for throwing oneself off Archant Towers?...Just a rare attempt to be positive!

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    Igno Rance

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Apologies Mad B last posting was for you but words got in the way!

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    Bogaz John

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • otherwise B I hear Malkie was in the frame but didn't want NA as his assistant otherwise things could have been a lot different. Watford will tell us........one way or the other.

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    Bogaz John

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Hear! Hear! malaga.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Oops! Sticky "F"s to go with my sticky "R"s. Made my `from` all fortissimo. What a silly folio I am.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Spot on Trevor Keith: defend in numbers, attack in numbers. As you say where did our midfield go? Johnnyp is also right in that players must be played to their strengths. Otherwise what is the point if you only get 50% of their abilities. Finally, we still haven't turned round our mindset and retain a losing mentality. While winning becomes a habit so does losing. March 20 is a long time ago and since then no wins and very, very, few goals. Players need to be told to lift their heads up when they are in the tunnel before a game. On Sunday too many were gazing down at the floor and looking too nervous. But we need a leader to instil that into them. Haven't had one since Holt left the room.

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Is Adams in dream world lets get one goal before talking about 80 plus. He has no idea just like the board as long as Delias food dept is running well that's the main priority at Carrow Road.

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    El tel

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • borderman, I wonder if you could do me a favour - you take over the `proof reading duties`. Some folk think I pick on young Paddy too much ;-) I`m a doubter too, I`m afraid. I was very surprised\underwhelmed by the management appointment, after all the fine words from Machianalli et al. Then there was the ephemeral Uncle Joe Royle and the Board attending a Summer school in GCSE Management Studies. End result, to borrow ffrom Michigan Canary`s lexicon, was `Corner Shop Norwich`. That said, I hope Neil does well - why wouldn`t I? But I have seen little or nothing to give me encouragement thus far... from the farcical Summer camp in Italy, to Hughtonesque team selection vs Wolves.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • OK Neil you have the armoury so let's play them to their strengths, to a certain extent you were unlucky Sunday not being able to select Fer, Howson, Hooper and potentially O'Neill these would all be in my best team! But it shows our depth of squad is not that great, we should be playing 4-4-2 and this means strengthening that defence, a top priority. But please do not come out with a lightweight midfield again, especially with Tettey on the bench - a strong midfield helps the defence??? Get Redmond on that wing and players in the middle to receive the crosses. OTBC

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    johnnyp

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Brewer- I dont blame Adams for the spelling, but those who write this are supposed professionals!-Adams can talk a good game now we need to see results, the jury is still undecided, I hope he proves doubters like me wrong!

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    borderman

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • 100% right VM, our defence does not look up to the job and we saw at the World Cup that all the best teams defended in numbers as well as attacked in numbers and therein lay our problem on Sunday. When Wolves finally attacked our shaky defence the midfielders were missing from the action.

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    TrevorKeith

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • After Sunday Adams said our defence was solid and strong.If he believes that he is living in cloud cuckoo land - he must see the need to play Bennett and buy another centre half. If he fails to see the weakness I am afraid I can't put too much credence to his bravado.

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    VictorM

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • If NA says " we're going to more attacking minded" how does he rate 1 shot at Wolves' goal on Sunday? That was last season revisited. It's all very well keeping the main team together but only if they play like they MEAN to go back up. On Sunday they didn't. They let themselves down and the 1500 fans who went to Wolves. Must do better.

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    Bogaz John

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • The same usual plaudits! Why doesn't Neil Adams tell it kike it is ! and not what we got to expect fron Hughton,the team looked tired and unfit,so no excuses just say it !

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    Albert Cooper

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • More 'tosh' from Adams, IE Stating the obvious-report says'WE should be up their in the mix' Up THEIR what?

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    borderman

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

  • Good to know he appreciates the importance of the next few games. My impression was that the preseason was the time to ....get into that mentality of trying to win every game ..... but obviously not. One swallow does not a summer make likewise one defeat does not mean a promotion lost but a few defeats could. This weekend will be interesting, I shall wait the Championship round up with interest. Now that the PL will be kicking off no live matches here at the weekend; unless at a time no PL games on. OTBC

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    Jakarta (ex-Singapore) Canary

    Wednesday, August 13, 2014

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