Day Three of our football experts’ predictions: Survival or bust for Norwich City

Josh Murphy featured for Norwich City's Under 21s against West Brom's under-21s on Thursday night at Carrow Road. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Josh Murphy featured for Norwich City's Under 21s against West Brom's under-21s on Thursday night at Carrow Road. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Wednesday, February 19, 2014
9:47 AM

What’s more straightforward than predicting the future? Our panel of fans, columnists and correspondents tell us how Norwich City’s season will end.

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For Day One of our predictions from chief Norwich City writer Paddy Davitt and City fan and columnist David Powles click here.

For Day Two of our pundits predictions from Norwich City correspondent Michael Bailey and Sport Editor Chris Lakey click here.

What the pundits predict:

Mark Armstrong – journalist

(Norwich City’s score first)

Feb 23 Spurs (H) D 1-1

Mar 2 Aston Villa (A) D 1-1

Mar 8 Stoke (H) W 1-0

Mar 15 Southampton (A) L 0-2

Mar 22 Sunderland (H) W 1-0

Mar 29 Swansea (A) L 1-3

Apr 5 West Brom (H) W 1-0

Apr 12 Fulham (A) L 1-2

Apr 19 Liverpool (H) L 0-2

Apr 26 Man Utd (A) L 0-2

May 3 Chelsea (A) L 0-3

May 11 Arsenal (H) D 1-1

Points picked up: 12

City’s final tally: 37 – SAFE

Will City survive, how and why? Mark says: It’s going to be a very uncomfortable ride and whenever you look at those last four games, it does make you wince. However, a point on the last day of the season will keep the Canaries up… just.

Iwan Roberts – columnist, ex-City striker

(Norwich City’s score first)

Feb 23 Spurs (H) D 1-1

Mar 2 Aston Villa (A) W 1-0

Mar 8 Stoke (H) W 2-1

Mar 15 Southampton (A) L 0-2

Mar 22 Sunderland (H) W 2-0

Mar 29 Swansea (A) W 2-1

Apr 5 West Brom (H) W 2-1

Apr 12 Fulham (A) D 0-0

Apr 19 Liverpool (H) L 1-3

Apr 26 Man Utd (A) L 1-2

May 3 Chelsea (A) L 0-2

May 11 Arsenal (H) W 2-1

Points picked up: 20

City’s final tally: 45

Will City survive, how and why? Iwan says: City need goals and points, and they need them now. The good thing is they’ve got the opponents coming up to do it. I don’t think they will keep missing all these chances, so I’m backing them to turn in the performances and be safe with points to spare.

Tomorrow: Ex-City winger Darren Eadie and City fan Angela Sharpe give their verdicts.

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42 comments

  • Good stuff there, Mattias. A pedantic point of fact, our miracle 10 game unbeaten run included 6 wins, 3 of them on the trot (and all by a 1 goal margin). Then 2 wins from the next 19 games, or 4 from the last 21 if one tries to put a positive spin on it. So, adding our final period last season to this season to date, it`s 10 wins from 47 games (21.3%). 44 pts (0.94 per game). Equates to a seasonal total of 35.6 pts. Sound familiar, Mattias?

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • No Brew that's me. I have been in the pulpit at St Lakeys Rouen Rd offering sermons and homilies to Mr Hughton of London so indeed he may be gone. And forever. Amen. I bet Mattias has quite a fun job - he's always quite upbeat on here.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Agree to a point GPL. Especially with point no3 you made. Hopefully before its too late we will get a fully fit squad. But I refuse to use the injuries as excuses like some other usersfans have. We've simply not been good enough at times plain and simple. Like Mr McNally said during his interview last friday we have not met the target of improving on last season. I dont expect an management changes now unless we drop into the bottom 3 and dont get out immediately or we drop points in a 'must win game'.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • No, Smudger, it`s something he gets from Dubai. I`d love a Pulitzer Prize, Wijs, but aren`t they just for American journalistic|musical\literary luminaries, not British ones like wot I am? Also demonstrating the vertical | slash, which is a compromise between the back\slash and the extinct forwardslash. I`m beginning to think Mattias may be a part-time vicar.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Have a word with Archie please Brew. I got censored for (a) comparing Hughton with Constable Hollis who was in the early series of The Bill and (b) for suggesting that Hughton was somebody used to flipping pancakes. Archie said it was offensive. They aint heard nothin' yet.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • These score predictions are just nonsensical guesswork; however I do believe we will stay up. You may ask why that is and there are 3 reasons why. 1. We are better than at least 5 sides around us. 2. The players seem to be able to get just what they need everytime. 3. We are getting close to being back to a full strength squad just in time for the run in and that will be the most telling and crucial factor.

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    GPL

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Mattias, it`s Iwan that has dreamed up the 3-match winning run. Armstrong has been much more conservative, saving our season with a last-gasp draw in the final game vs Ar$enal. I think you got confused by the rather random layout of this `article`. (I always make excuses for my cronies). Iwan has us to win 6 out of the last 12. Thus far we`ve won 6 out of 26. You`re a joy, Iwan.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Not topic related but a mate of mine who is an arsenal fan just let me know the cheapest ticket for Arsenal Vs Munich is £88!!! He paid £120 for his!!!!! Wowzer!!!!! No wonder they have the most expensive season tickets around. Topic related - agree, Iwans one is a optimistic one rather than realist one. No harm but cant take that serious. If we achieve 45 points....heck....if we achieve 39 i'll personally declare my love for Chris Hughton & wear a Calderwood number 1 fan t-shirt to each home game next season!

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Do you have any influence at Ruin Towers, el dingo? I know you`re a close pal of The Padster. I`d like to develop waclor`s idea from another board and recreate, on Mustard TV, the old Panel Game "What`s My Line". We could then all make a concerted effort to find out by what mysterious means Mattias makes his mealticket. I bagsie being Gilbert Harding, Wac, ol` pal, YOU can be Lady Isobel Barnett. Michael Bailey could take the Chairman role (was that originally Seamus Android?). Such potential fun. My current theory is that Mattias `works` in the Box Office at the Spa Pavilion, Felixstowe. The theatre`s closed down but nobody told Matt. But, hey, let`s rejoice in all the pleasure we get from his always interesting and good-natured comments. You see, Barking Wijs, I am his No.1 psycho- fan (aka sycophant).

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • I knew I shouldnt do it, but I just did the Mustard Premier League Table predictor, where you fill in the scores for every league game for every team and it shows you the final table. Obviously highly unlikely Ill get even 25% right but gives you a rough Idea. I had NCFC finishing on 36 points (including a last day draw with AFC....oh im an optimist today!). I wont say whether 36 points sent us down or kept us up but lets just say we finished either 17th or 18th. Either way brown pants time if my predictions are correct. However as if I haven't been busy enough I then stumbled upon another website (bsports dot come ;) if you want to google it) which is the live league table with added extra's like Estimated final points tally based on form and average results. They have us down as achieving 35.5 points so my 36points is fairly close. The same site also states there is a 41.9% chance we will be relegated and they have us finishing 18th. I have not helped my nerves and worry regarding NCFC at all.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Haha my 36 points was me thinking I was being doom and gloom but the genuine real life stats suggest 35.7 points. Marginally worse than my prediction but still as depressing. We need 2-3 teams to hit a very very very bad run. Sad facts.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • Not topic related but a mate of mine who is an AFC fan just let me know the cheapest ticket for AFC Vs Munich is £88!!! He paid £120 for his!!!!!Wowzer!!!!! No wonder they have the most expensive season tickets around. Topic related - agree, Iwans one is a optimistic one rather than realist one. No harm but cant take that serious. If we achieve 45 points....heck....if we achieve 39 i'll personally declare my love for Chris Hughton & wear a Calderwood number 1 fan t-shirt to each home game next season!

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Won one game in last eleven so I think current form predicts that Canaries will go down. A loss on Sunday and It would not surprise me if McNasty goes for MacKay, it's that desperate

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    Simon Thetford

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • How sad. All that money spent and what are we doing: talking about whether we might just about avoid relegation!

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    malaga flier

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Good comments there, Mattias. A pedantic point of fact, our wonder 10 match unbeaten run lat season included 6 wins, 3 of them in a row ( all by a single goal margin). Then 2 wins from the next 19 games - or 4 from the last 21 if one tries to create a positive spin by including the bone & gravy from WBA & ManC. So, combining our final period last season with this season so far, we have 10 wins from 47 games (21.3%). 44 pts (0.94 per game). Equates to a seasonal total of 35.6 pts. Sound familiar, Mattias?

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • cant wash them between games chap, that dont count! agree with every word you said by the way.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Lovin'' the "bone" and "gravy" analogy, Gek. Pulitzer stuff.

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    Barking Wise

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Fair shout, Matt. You must admit Iwan`s prediction is surreal, though. I wish Archie`s little helpers could learn to tabulate... tables in order to make them readily readable. Really, Armstrong`s effort looks more `of this world` than Iwan`s. That famous 10 match run was comprised of 6 wins & 4 draws. All the wins by a single goal margin - including a Lamboesque 4-3 at Swansea. There was only ONE goalless draw! 3 consecutive wins preceded the tailspin to near relegation (Sunderland-H 2-1. Swansea-A 4-3. Wigan-H 2-1). We won 2 games out of the next 19 before WBA threw us a bone. Then ManC poured on some gravy.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • but I also concurred with your comments on team selection. It is a managerial weakness to have overt favourites. Hughton has a fine portfolio of managerial weaknesses. Cannot believe I was once a `fan`.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • Crickey! I hope Mark Armstrong is correct! If so we're about to have an unbeaten 3 game run, something I just cant imagine happening since we went 10 games unbeaten with a host of draws last season. I hope Mark is right. Maybe just maybe my mind will be swayed but nothing Hughtons done the last 13 months gives me any hope thats about to happen. Love Iwan but come on....45 points? wowzer!

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Oh so Dingo reads the Sun. Says alot about the man ;-)

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    sharky

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • tight, very tight. Could be goal difference that sends us down. I'm just your average joe amateur fan, manager in business in the "real" world that could see several months ago that things were not working, players are not as together as they should be which usually means either dissention or confusion in the camp. I have things crossed but more in divine hope and intervention than realistic expectation and i'm prepared to wear my lucky pants for the rest of the season!! (washed in between games).

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    kpg24uk

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • I would actually stay with same management team. I have see progression in the way we play. I have seen some good players come into the club so he is the type of manager players like and he can attract good player. The progression is not as swift as I or many others but there is improvement there. I think our squadis just to thin to cope with injuries. We only have about 8 good players the rest are wakeweights. Another few good transfer windows and that could be rectified. For me the improvement is there. It just hasn't gone fare enough year. I don't want another manager coming in and dismantling the good work in the transfer market. Not what most people want but you did ask.

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    GPL

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Good ol` Iwan - he`s had a consignment of Dubai Canary`s most potent Pollyanna Potion, aka Yabba Abu Dhabi Elixir. It certainly does the trick - after a couple of litres I came up with 45 points, too - yesterday. I wonder if people think Big Robbo is `avin` a laaarff too? The vaingloriously self-styled "Experts" have got the apostrophe in the correct place today, so no proofreading fees up for grabs. Unless I`ve missed something. 45 points. Wow!

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Just wait till the Sunday Sun starts its "odds to be relegated" bit under the league table. That's not far away chaps...

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • I hope GPL is right. It`d be good to believe that the return of Howson will help but it doesn`t look like we`ll be seeing E. Bennett anytime soon. I hope R. Bennett is OK, as Yobo will be off on International Friendly duty soon - though I don`t think that means he`ll miss a game, there`s just the risk of injury\fatigue. I think we lost out big time with that injury to Elliott. He`s a good team man and a better prospect at wide right than Robert, IMHO. Also, he`s capable of playing at RB and I believe that may be where his longer term future lies. Our current 2 RBs don`t really seem to be quite up to muster. Perhaps, with Elliott around, Hughton could have found a more suitable role for Snods? "In the hole" as is said. I hope we hear some good news about EB soon.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • Iwan has shown himself to be the ideal Caretaker Manager. Come on Iwan, you said 45 points is possible now deliver. Yu haven't got much to beat mate so where's the downside?

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • If we get 45 points you're all welcome to my hat-eating ceremony !

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    john in exile in Leeds

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • What is the point? Have they tried the more high tech 'tea leaves' method? Now that really is worth the time and effort!

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    la barbe

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • technically I said Mr Armstrong thinks were about to go on a 3 game unbeaten run. He's predicted the next 3 games to be 2 draws and a win. ;) An easy mistake many still make though when referring to the 10 game unbeaten streak....it was 10 glorious wins....more a host of draws without creating much and a few 'lucky' 1 nil-ers.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • If Greg Downes gets his turn at being an Expert, I hope they let him do it on audio-visual, `cos he sounds just like Len Goodman, fwom Celebwity caarm doorncin`. Could be a little side-line of an earner there, Greg. Just as Hoots could do `Mike` from the Young Ones.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • The bible says something about putting new wine in old bottles. Perhaps it is just as inadvisable to add new players to old tactics.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Agree mad. Only news I seem to hear is from the player himself via social media. While I wont pretend hes a superstar, international etc....hes a very good squad player though and another whose been missed. My kind of winger. Head down and run at the full back. Our issue is Snodgrass (this isnt a get Snod out the team rant so read on before typing me an angry message ha) Snodgrass is never going to be comfy playing left wing. Never has been elsewhere and never will be at NCFC. He has no pace and prefers cutting in. thats fine (when hes on form) but as a result of him being a clear favourite of Hughton it means others suffer being played out of position. Natural head down, run at the full back & cross from the byline players like Redmond & Elliott Bennett have been forced to play left wing where they either awkwardly cross on there left foot to no end result or try cut in and spur chances. Snodgrass was great for us last season.....mostly from set pieces. That side of his games been missing this season and as a result our goals from set pieces ratio has taken a hammering. Snoddy should be no more protected from dropping than anyone else. The likes of Ryan Bennett & co get dropped seemingly the second a 'reg' returns. Snoddy should be the same. Sometimes a little wake up call can bring a player back to form. I like Snoddy. I really do, He just frustrates the heck out of me but then again the best players often do (aka Mr Hoolahan). During the 10 game unbeaten run (filled with draws) last season a huge majority of our goals came from set pieces either crossed by Snoddy or scored from dead ball by snoddy. Notice a pattern? Whether Snoddy accepts critique or not hes been a shadow of himself this season and NCFC have suffered as a result as its only amplified our inability to score from open play within Chris Hughtons style.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • Ha! What ever it is your thinking. Incorrect ha! Somewhere inbetween God & the person who cleans the pole at the local gentlemans club. Somewhere inbetween you'll find what I do for a living. Side note but why has an image of Josh Murphy playing against Fulham been used at the top of this article with a caption regarding an u21 game? Odd choice. Surely a picture of the table and a sad crying NCFC fan (or just my own image) should have been used under circumstances

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Is Iwan on crack?!!!

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    Smudger75

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Love Hughton, No.1 Calderwood fan, Mattias?? I`ve finally worked out your profession. It`s the oldest profession in the World! ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • These score predictions are just nonsensical guesswork; however I do believe we will stay up. You may ask why that is and there are 3 reasons why. 1. We are better than at least 5 sides around us. 2. The players seem to be able to get just what they need everytime. 3. We are getting close to being back to a full strength squad just in time for the run in and that will be the most telling and crucial factor.

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    GPL

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Used to work for its sportsdesk as a sub-ed numpty nuts. How's the Barca gig going? Oh you're confident for the second leg. Apero.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Blocked from further dicourse, M333. It may turn up. Only boring old stats. Your 35.5 points look good. My efforts produced 35.6! Call it 40. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • Good points GPL, and well thought out. I do hope you are right. Out of interest, if we survive in the Prem, what decision would you like to see re coachingmanagement changes of personnel?

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

  • Thanks GPL I asked honestly and you answered in the same way. I do not agree at all but still appreciated reading your point of view.

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    waclor

    Thursday, February 20, 2014

  • I reckon Iwan`s tongue has burst through his cheek by now. He`s probably having stitches in by now. He certainly had me in them.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, February 19, 2014

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