Norwich skipper Grant Holt shakes hands with Southampton's Artur Boruc at the final whistle after Boruc saved Holt's stoppage time penalty in a 0-0 Premier League draw at Carrow Road. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Chris Hughton left to rue Norwich City spot kick miss in Premier League stalemate against Southampton

Paddy Davitt, EDP Sports Writer Saturday, March 9, 2013
6:08 PM

Norwich City boss Chris Hughton insisted the Canaries were denied another clear penalty on top of Grant Holt’s stoppage time spot kick saved by Southampton’s Artur Boruc in a goalless Premier League draw at Carrow Road.

Holt was adjduged to have been pushed by Luke Shaw in the dying seconds but Boruc guessed correctly to dive to his right to push away the skipper’s drilled spot kick. Angry Saints’ boss Mauro Pochettino confronted referee Mark Clattenburg on the pitch at the final whistle but Hughton was adamant City should have been awarded a penalty in the first period when Holt was tugged back by Shaw inside the six yard box.

“On the penalty decisions we certainly should have had one in that first half period when (Luke) Shaw pulls back Grant. It was our first penalty of the season. We certainly deserved it. Grant has got himself ball side of the defender. Do I think there was contact? Yes, I do. Whether there was enough to give a penalty of course he has to make that decision and he has an assistant on that side to make it. If we think that was soft certainly the first one wasn’t. “What you have got is two teams fighting for their lives. Southampton is a good team. They have a lot of good attacking players. They have got quality offensively. They pack midfield. I decided to go 4-4-2 today which means perhaps we were going to be a little bit more open but you hope you get the benefits in the other part of the pitch. I thought we had the better chances.”

Pochettino apologised in his post-match media briefing to the match official but the young Argentine could face disciplinary action for his reaction.

“In that moment you do not really control your emotions or your anger,” he said. “I thought it was a complete unfairness to us. That is my opinion. What I said to the referee stays on the pitch. I know I should not have gone on the pitch and I apologise but sometimes you lose control a little bit - us managers really have to control ourselves but I am playing the game as well on the sidelines.”

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Talking about Leicester City, who remembers their big centre forward called Frank Large who Kevin Keelan downed with a perfect left hook, took his jersey off and walked towards the tunnel before the ref got to him. Oh, and the first player to wear white boots wasnt Laurie Sheffield, it was a guy called Albert Bennett

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oldtimer

Thursday, March 14, 2013
Not intended as a "dig" sharky. ;-) My, aren`t we getting sensitive on these boards now? All terrified of giving offence!! Your post just prompted me to muse on how much Hoots has quietly refreshed the squad. His 1st choice starting XI could be: Bunn, Whits, Turner, Bass, Garrido - Tettey, (Johnson) - Kamara, Becchio, Snods, Butterfield. That`s 10\11. A bit far-fetched in parts, I confess! Can`t leave BJ out.

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Mad Brewer

Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Agreed Brew I should have added "when he got here". Then that happens to all new managers I suppose as I have found out ;-)

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sharky

Monday, March 11, 2013
Stew, if we go down I agree Hoots will have failed. It`s a results game (cliché time, folks). If we stay up the way we`re playing, it`ll do fine - as long as it`s seen as a consolidation, no more. Then, next season, a bit of progress would be good. The Swansea model preferred to the Stoke model, perhaps? It wasn`t that long ago "The Charlton Model" was the `thing`. Maybe one day everybody will be citing the "Norwich Model"? I bet quite a few clubs, like Leeds, are doing that already? Tempus fugit!

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Mad Brewer

Monday, March 11, 2013
Stew your comments appreciated but certainly not a case of being happy with the current position and performance but I think the root cause is McNasty rules the club and he wanted financial stability, which really is no big fault. I think and hope that if they can consolidate and keep their position we will see a big forward move to come and no reason why Hoots cannot be the man to take it forward. Think patience is the word for all of us!

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blackdog2

Monday, March 11, 2013
sharky, interestingly the starting line-up had 6 Hoots signings, 4 Lambo and 1 Gunny (Holt). If not for injuries, Whits,Tettey & Ruddy would probably have been on the pitch, making it 7\3\1 and if Hoots had included Wes instead of Pilks, 7\2\2. So he has turned the squad over quite a bit. Current 1st choice back 5 could be all Hoots` (Ruddy, Whits[?] injured, of course).

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Mad Brewer

Monday, March 11, 2013
....Pondlife!....it.was suggested in earlier comments that the players wore red shoes on the left feet and green ones on the right-Port and Starboard- This would enable them to know which foot they could play the ball with, and also which way they were facing!

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Stew Pydsodd

Monday, March 11, 2013
.....Brew! All I seem to read now is IF we stay up. 'What the Devil!', ' Damn my temper!' Surely this manager was brought in to MAKE SURE we stayed up, and progress even!...If we go down he will have FAILED!.... IN MY BOOK!.....

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Stew Pydsodd

Monday, March 11, 2013
Wasn't LauriesSheffield one of the first players to wear white boots instead of standard black or brown. Perhaps Holahan and Snnodgrass could wear one coloured and one black to help them realise they have two feet, one on each leg. Thought the Sierra Leone weather Saturday would been to Kamara's liking

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Pondlife

Monday, March 11, 2013
Btw1: I seem to remember Laurie Sheffield`s short but prolific burst of goals dug us out of a relegation hole. zebbee, I thing I was at that Derby game - was it Sheff`s debut?.... Btw2: Stew-style "cards on table". Overall I believe Hoots is doing a good job. Not so sure about his No.2. (oh, for Culverhouse). Next season, if we stay up, will be a fairer measure of Hoots` achievements.

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Mad Brewer

Monday, March 11, 2013
Oh B*****r..... sorry

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sharky

Monday, March 11, 2013
Good post BD2. Many here would agree with you many wouldnt. Its all about opinions. I believe what has been done mainly with what was already here is OK for now. It is boring but we are hanging in there at the moment. Next year I think most of us want to see changes. Thats when I will make my decision about the manager. Stew it was 2-1 to Leicester I believe we were in the same place. Were you that big bloke in front of me? 42,126 still a club record

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sharky

Monday, March 11, 2013
Good post BD2. Many here would agree with you many wouldnt. Its all about opinions. I believe what has been done mainly with what was already here is OK for now. It is boring but we are hanging in there at the moment. Next year I think most of us want to see changes. Thats when I will make my decision about the manager. Stew it was 2-1 to Leicester I believe we were in the same place. Were you that big bloke in front of me? 42,126 still a club record

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sharky

Monday, March 11, 2013
Was that record 42,000 crowd vs Leicester? alan clark, this new mystery troll; if it failed to get thro` the ether, how did you detect its existence?? I have a lot to learn about the eldritch world of IT! On football, I don`t think many Norwich fans really have unrealistic expectations. It`s just that, after last season`s cavalier offering, it all seems a bit dull and, even worse, formless. Some promising players have seemingly ceased to promise, eg Howson and the two Bennetts. I suppose we can`t help casting an envious eye in the direction of Swansea, with their relatively elevated position and a Trophy in the cabinet (not to mention a place in the Europa League). None of us know what constraints Hoots is operating under and what deficiencies he detected in the squad. Those deficiencies may well have materialised under the previous manager, but he didn`t hang around long enough for them to be exposed. There`s a pattern there, somewhere.....

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Mad Brewer

Monday, March 11, 2013
....Blackdog! I may as well comment on your contribution. Of course you are correct in much you say, but then so are the majority of others wasting their lives on here. I think we fall into three catagories :- those that are Happy with the way things are going,- those that think we could be doing better, and those that wonder if we have the right leader..... I fall between the second and third and honestly believe we would have done better if the manager and his sidekicks were better at their jobs. The material they have is Premiership quality but the way it is deployed is Conference Standard..Clinging on to life is not what we should be aiming for. Who knows ,it could be more of the same next season!.....

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Stew Pydsodd

Monday, March 11, 2013
Thought that I would pop in for a peep this morning and I feel vindicated in my decision to abstain, the idiots, the trolls, the comments have not improved at all. Why can people not see that Norwich is a small family type of club punching well above it's weight. There is no big benefactor, no big middle eastern money! Hoots may be unpopular but for heavens sake look at what the man has achieved and the tools he had at his disposal! To stay in the Premier division where the money is will be a fantastic achievment. This club was nearly down and out like many others, Portsmouth for example, the debt was been considerably reduced and McNasty has been very prudent all round. There will be a stable platform to go forward, stop moaning and appreciate what now exists.

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blackdog2

Monday, March 11, 2013
...SNAP! Sharky. I was there too, Barcley End. ..Can't say I saw you though...Not much Football either!...It was a pretty tight fit for all!...

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Stew Pydsodd

Monday, March 11, 2013
Stew. Our manager has been given a job to remain in this league. Yes its boring. I think we will survive. Just! Then we will see the changes he wants to make. If not and the same happens next year, I will agree with you. For me, for now my glass is half full. Remember I have been in over 42,000 fans at Carrow Road OTBC

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sharky

Monday, March 11, 2013
Sharky! If you are out there. I read your contribution about me comparing Norwich City in the early 50s and today. I too appreciate that the game has changed enormously from then to now. The bike I rode then has been discarded many moons ago. Over the years we have watched the ups and downs of our club to where we find ourselves now..... I stress that it is My opinion that last season was the summit of our History. The club has developed extremely well under the present board, and there was no reason that it should not continue this season . Alas! that has not happened and at present we look like a mountaineer clinging on to fragile hold for dear life.... Builders Build! Demolition men Demolish! and some take the easy option and do next to nothing in the hope that things will be ok! We must PROGRESS however slowly...Have we the right men for the job?

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Stew Pydsodd

Monday, March 11, 2013
Brewster, those trolls you named,may have another sleeper in their ranks,been monitoring the posts of another,who has just now tried to put down our great captain,and after being ignored,tried again,and again ignored,then all of a sudden,an almost identical post from snott! Coupled with 2 real negative posts,about hoots in the summer,even before a ball was kicked,makes me think we have another infiltrator from the wasteland south of Norfolk..

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alan clark

Monday, March 11, 2013
Zebbee ,Kevin Hector made his England debut on the famous night at Wembley in 73 when Poland held us to a one all draw. This ended our chances of WC qualification. Ramsey scandalously held him back to come on as sub in the 89th minute despite Chivers looking lethargic all night. Hector in those two or three minutes had a header and a goalbound shot both cleared off the line by defenders with the 'clown' in goal beaten.

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Steely Dan

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Roy Hollis was my man and Tommy Bryceland later. I remember Roy McCrohan looking at the clock when drawing against Walsall to save us from applying for re-election. So Stew (and thats the first time I called you that lol) you want to compare 3rd Division (South) with the PL. No way ;-)

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sharky

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Laurie Sheffield. Now there's a name. Seem to remember we signed him when we couldnt get Kevin Hector. And we thought we had the better deal after he scored a hat trick at Carra Rud in a 4-1 win against Kevin Hector's Derby. Thing was, KH went onto to better things whilst LS didnt I believe.

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zebbee

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I am extremely respectful of your FA qualifications, Ivan, and also of your right to express whatever view(s) you have concerning NCFC. I will add, in self-defence, that a sequence of ellipsis marks - they are not a series of full-stops! - is a frequently employed device to indicate that there is more to come or that the reader should put in their own completion. Also, that D. H. Lawrence got away with beginning sentences with ‘and’ and ‘so’! No matter; I’m being pedantic. I’m also appreciative of your opinions Waclor and, M.B, gain much pleasure from your whimsical semantic trickery. I apologise for my unhelpful generalisations. I just get exasperated by the negativity. Things (in my opinion) ain’t so bad!

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Dark Moon

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Laurie Sheffield -- hat trick in his first game, then nothing much else, Brewer. Was at the game some time in the sixties...thought we were destined for glory then. Had to wait another five or so seasons. Like Stew, I can't hep looking back and recalling highlights and conveniently forgetting the dull games, low attendances, standing for hours (couldn't do it now!). Today's teams much fitter and more skilled, and the complaints about players being only it for the money were doing the rounds in the seventies (and maybe earlier).

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atlanta canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Stew, do you remember Laurie Sheffield, who I believe, was a cousin or similar of Lol Morgan? Came in, scored a few goals, saved our bacon & moved on!

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
.....You know Brew I believe it was Dougie Lockwood who was the manager at my first game.... I have many names in my Memory Bank, inc:Norman Low, Ron Ashman, Lol Morgan, and many others. Who remembers Oscar Hold as our Centre Forward, possessed a lovely right hook, and Dennis Morgan, an amazing right back, converted from outside right. We judge today's incumbents on what we have seen in the past, and in my opinion they are falling well short of the mark!.....

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Stew Pydsodd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Wish I could share Dubai`s sunny, childlike optimism. But then it`s not very sunny in these paarts just now!

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
el dingo, tried to reply twice. Blocked. I wonder why? I shall have to pick over the conundrum....

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
There`s not a lot truer than a truism, Dubai. If only.... If we don`t scrape up another 5 or 6 points to survive, it`ll be a tragedy. We cannot keep hoping for others to slip up. I`ll continue being boring by repeating that, if you take out the 10 game `Euro-miracle` run, we have gleaned 11 points from 19 games, with just ONE win, gifted by the last-minute goal vs Everton. The goal difference in those 19 games is best not thought about. WHY have so many players gone backwards? Btw, I think the only authenticated troll on this thread is La Snott.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Had we won yesterday - we would be sitting 10th with 35 points. As it is we are 14th and at the foot of a pile of five clubs all on 33 Points. An away win at Sunderland would almost put us home and dry. However, if we lose the next two games and other teams below us continue to pick up points we could be in for a harsh run-in. Lets hope we get the needed points sooner than later ! It will also hopefully get the trolls back in their holes too.

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Dubai Canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Yes indeed MB, as should Divot and Mr P*ickover. The latter presideth over a shambles. methinks.

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el dingo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Liz\Ged\Rob\Steady et al should look for venues that are more to their taste.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Escutcheon, in the context I was using it, is a small shield, though I suppose it could have pu bic connotations, shapewise. Escunsion is beyond my lexicon. Stew, don`t ever contemplate the shouters stopping your considered opinions. el dingo, people might start thinking we`re one and the same. Gaudys are also Dinners for the Bullingdon Club etc. In effect, the good old public school "Jollies". Divot would fit in well; they`d probably spitroast him, like Tom Brown! Parvenu that he is.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Holt! What a total embarrassment he is to norwich fc. He takes cheating to a whole new level doesn't he!

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Liz Knott

Sunday, March 10, 2013
......I seem to have closed the other board with my 'Cards on the Table 'comment.... I do not SUPPORT Norwich City by attending matches anymore...I've done my share of that over the years....I do follow EVERY game played by the team representing the City of my birth on line or Sky TV....My First match watching from the old enclosure had Billy Furness in the side, and either Hall or Duke in goal. I've even graced the turf myself, albeit around 60 years ago. I now leave the space clear for the younger ones to shout their obsenities at every opportunity...Don't Anyone tell me I haven't the right to an opinion! As the old army saying went "Get some In"....

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Stew Pydsodd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
His horse was good, but he was not gay (as in gaudy). That's what Chaucer wrote about his Knight all those years ago. A bit like Bradley Johnson, I guess. I was there like most of us yesterday and got soaked on the way home. We did not deserve to win. But we will, indeed, creep over the line. Death to Grauniad readers (thanks MB and paticularly waclor - lovely comment) - my distrust of Archant has recently reached another level, for what it's worth. OTBC

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el dingo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I had to look it up on Wiki.Their quote is "(in medicine) the distribution of pubic hair" Escutcheon in Sunderland may be worthy of further analysis at the game.

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Peter Watson

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Things could be worse: We could be watching QPR or Wigan or Villa or Reading or Sunderland or worse stil Southampton every week. If our forwards hgad missed the chances theirs did there would have been uproar . Had we drawn against Everton and Beaten Southampton everyone would have been happy. As it was we got lucky against Everton and unlucky against Southampton (penalty should have been in the first half). It is turgid at the moment but if it gets us to 40 points we can regroup for next season in the Premier stronger and wiser.. Plenty of spare seats at Portaloo or London Road if you don;t like it

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Pondlife

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Escunsion MB?Isn't that a WMD?

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Peter Watson

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Gadzooks, waclor!! It`s not normally my inclination to defend the Thesaurus Muncher, but I quite like archaic English. I rarely gainsay your views but that`s life! I suppose much of our current language is archaic, it`s just that it has survived? Let`s put a blot on Sunderland`s escutcheon next Sunday!! ;-) PS. I am NOT Prolix Paddy!

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
The problem as always relates to money.When the club pays all its employees a living wage and reduces the tea prices from an astounding £2 a cup.Until they get these things right the football will not improve as a spectacle.

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Peter Watson

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Is CH the only person who still "Rues" things or is Paddy the only journalist still using Chaucerian English? I am sure the rest of us regret stuff but I can't recall ruing anything. How about the rest of you?

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waclor

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Archie MacCauley! Childhood God!!

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I don`t think I am worthy of being a Champion of anything, goldie. I agree with you that it is a shame personal insults take over - though contributors should never be intimidated into being scared off. You know, it didn`t use to be like this. It`s a relatively recent phenomenon and it cannot even be put at the door of the arch- proponent, who shall remain nameless in the interests of peace. (Unless that person has changed identity again). I have confessed before of culpability in the derision stakes - though mostly aimed at "trolls", otherwise only at people who insult me first! Generally, is it not better to state one`s opinions, for others to agree or not, and carry on regardless? After all, football is only a game, hopefully to be enjoyed. Words like `mug`, `moron`, `idiot`, `numpty` etc only serve to make things worse. Be good to get a point at Sunderland next Sunday. OTBC. PS. 3 points would be better!

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Whatever we say about the Manager if we stay up this season he has done a good job.He is employed by NCFC Ltd not by the supporters and his remit is to keep the business where the money is.If he succeeds then he will financially be able to add quality to the squad which,in turn,should increase the entertainment value.We will stay up and next season will see an exodus of players that have done well for us but more talent will arrive.Patience is necessary,frustrating as that virtue is.As for the best Managers, apart from Bond and Saunders the best was Archie MacCauley,although not many of you youngsters will remember him.OTBC.

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irongloves

Sunday, March 10, 2013
DocOhNo, that is my point entirely but I didn't do the certificates to have an opinion on here. It was the only way I could legally coach kids and adults. I merely used the fact to reinforce my opinion of the Dark Moon comments. Sorry if it caused offence Doc!

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ivan sadd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Thanks Brew you are champion of the put down on idiots.

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goldie

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Your comment is excellent, goldie.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Anything less than a win brings out the most unbelievable anti Hoots & anti players rants that is putting off most real supporters from making any comments whatsoever. Thats why there are over 70 comments which are very poor and are not any help to anyone and with a very few exceptions are of no interest to anyone.

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goldie

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Didn't see the game live as I was working in lovely Jeddah. I did see a bit of the replayed match from 30 mins in up to HT this morning. It looked like City were full of ambition and were very creative during the spell I saw. I would say that the conditions were absolutely awful and that the pitch looked as bad as I have seen it in recent years because of the weather. So from what I saw I can't be too harsh. Didn't see Holt's penalty miss, but that happens. Pity it was our first penalty of teh season. Anyway 0-0 is not a disaster and we are 33 Points to the good. Nine games to go, probably 5 or 6 more points will do it ! OTBC

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Dubai Canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I sometimes get confused by this role reversal. Are the fans there to entertain the players or vice versa? I suppose, now that football revenues come mostly from TV, sponsorship deals, image rights, oil millionnaires etc, fans are becoming a bit irrelevant; to be treated with disdain by their wealthy heroes? That said, I do not see the point in booing the team you profess to support.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I see we're deteriorating into mutual insults again. I do have to say however that you don't need to be a Guardian reader to be able to spell sentence. You don't need good grammar or spelling to have an opinion about football, equally you don't need FA certificates (what an august body) to have a valid opinion either.

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DocOhNo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Dark Moon; we`re not all the "Singing Postman" you know! Actually, Alan Smethurst came from Manchester (Some Naaarfolk blood, though) and was a very clever poet\lyricist in his own quirky way.

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
To paraphrase\parody Tony Hancock`s doctor`s comment in "The Blood Donor"; "We`re not all the Singing Postman, you know". Stalham Amateur Dramatics Society are hoping to include that sketch in a revue sometime. They`ve just got to find somebody posh enough to play Patrick Cargill`s `doctor` role. Any suggestions, Dark Moon? ;-)

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I take exception to Dark Moon`s reference to the Stalham Players` production of "One flew over the Cuckoo`s nest"! If you want to see a "cuckoos` nest" you need to attend a Briston Parish Council meeting! :-) (Note change of plural, there is a plurality of cuckoos involved there.) The Stalham thespians are a class act, dear boy; SADS. As for grammar etc, there is no harm writing stuff in the form of "Bullet points". This can be good for emphasis and conciseness. Perhaps it`s more a matter of syntax than of pure grammar? As for the "Grauniad"..... I suspect there are quite a few subscribers on these boards who do not subscribe to the "Red tops". Just a quick look at p3 and the footy pages in the pub paper? Congrats to my ol` pal bluelight on his record-breaking plurality of submissions! ;-)

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Mad Brewer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
....Anyone else thinks that the leopard has tried to change it's spots?.....Silly Moo!.....

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Stew Pydsodd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
To start with I agree with you Chris Dack. In fact let's have a look at the Dark Moon punctuation and grammar on his last two line post. It is poor to start a sentance with 'So' and a sentance always ends with a full stop not about five full stops. I only have an English CSE grade 3 qualification but even with my under developed intellegence I can see that Dark Moon is hiding behind the fact that he reads the Guardian. How many Football qualifications do you have Dark Moon to give your comments any sway? I have a Level 1 and Level 2 FA qualification and have attended the Level 3 course. At no time was I tested on my English grammar!

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ivan sadd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
What on earth would a Guardian reader know about punctuation? I agree that booing the taem off the pitch could be counter productive but it is difficult to make your feelings known to the Management whilst excluding the players. By the way, have you tried Evening Primrose at all?

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waclor

Sunday, March 10, 2013
After looking through some of the comments, I find it hard to believe some of the ignorant idiots that comment on here. Norwich fans commenting on 'Norfolk aggregates the lowest IQ of any in the country' or comments on poor punctuation. Maybe some forget that to comment on a football match we don't have to possess an English degree or read the Guardian. I believe fans deserve to have an opinion and in my opinion we had another dull, uninspired performance. I can't judge on whether Hughton is the right man for the job but its evident that the football is less entertaining that last year.

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Chris Dack

Sunday, March 10, 2013
To start with I agree with you Chris Dack. In fact let's have a look at the Dark Moon punctuation and grammar on his last two line post. It is poor to start a sentance with 'So' and a sentance always ends with a full stop not about five full stops. I only have an English CSE grade 3 qualification but even with my under developed intellegence I can see that Dark Moon is hiding behind the fact that he reads the Guardian. How many Football qualifications do you have Dark Moon to give your comments any sway? I have a Level 1 and Level 2 FA qualification and have attended the Level 3 course. At no time was I tested on my English grammar!

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ivan sadd

Sunday, March 10, 2013
After looking through some of the comments, I find it hard to believe some of the ignorant idiots that comment on here. Norwich fans commenting on 'Norfolk aggregates the lowest IQ of any in the country' or comments on poor punctuation. Maybe some forget that to comment on a football match we don't have to possess an English degree or read the Guardian. I believe fans deserve to have an opinion and in my opinion we had another dull, uninspired performance. I can't judge on whether Hughton is the right man for the job but its evident that the football is less entertaining that last year.

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Chris Dack

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Forget the penalty, our attacking midfield wasn't.

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Swiss Canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
NC were completely outplayed by a team several spots below them and were lucky to get the draw.. That is the worry. These are the teams that we must beat. The clock is ticking Hughton. The little cushion of points that you are relying on can disappear in a second.

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norman hall

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Was at the match at cara rud yesterday and have to say we played dire, the same match i saw on match of the day this morning was far better and as for the Holt pen it was never, He is such a cheat its untrue, should have sold the lump last summer !!!!! Anybody want to do some repointing on a cottage in Colby for 1k cash .lime! email me jontkm@aol.com

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Colby Army!

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Have to agree with Lobbo and 95% ofCity supporters over the tactics motivation and general standard of play which we are being subjected to week after week. Hughton isnt endearing himself to the majority of fans because of a stubborn insistence on playing Howson (why did we chase the player so hard when I wouldnt give hjim a game on the Rec on a Sunday morning). Bigging up evry team we play doesn't inspire any confidence in what is a medioce buch of journeymen. We punched above our weight with a 10 game (almost no goals) unbeaten run. When< oh when will we ever see a decent attacking game of football under this regime?

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oldtimer

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Strangely enough I sort of agree with both Lobbo AND Dark Moon. I think Hughton's doing very well with the players he has. I also think the squad is in desperate need of improvement. The defence (sadly with the exception of Cafu) had an ok game. Midfield and forwards are in need of a shake up. Snodgrass, my player of the season so far was uninspired to say the least and Howson did himself no favours. Early on Pilks looked ok but his injury gave us problems. Wes isn't great in Pilkington's place. As for the forwards, Kamara isn't ready for a starting place yet even though he could have got 2 if Holt had had his passing boots on. Holt only really started playing halfway through the 2nd half. I still trust Hughton but if there's no clear out of players and decent strikers with pace next season my confidence will start to be eroded.

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DocOhNo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Was at the match at cara rud yesterday and have to say we played dire, the same match i saw on match of the day this morning was far better and as for the Holt pen it was never, He is such a cheat its untrue, should have sold the lump last summer !!!!! Anybody want to do some repointing on a cottage in Colby for 1k cash .lime! email me jontkm@aol.com

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Colby Army!

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I think I've pulled a mooney. Just tell me my canary chum, in your opinion are there any areas in which our team could improve or are you happy with things. Are there any of our players under performing. Are our tactics right! I really would like to know what you think. Do you think we'll stay up and if we do, do you think the players we have and the way we are playing will keep us in the premier next year. Do tell 'dark moon'.

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Lobbo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Sounds like a pretty good team Lobbo. So go and support Manchester United ....

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Dark Moon

Sunday, March 10, 2013
All we need is, a couple of play makers, you know, the ones that are the beating heart of a team and can thread a defensive splitting pass, a couple of ruthless strikers, you know, the ones that can fashion a goal from nothing, a couple of players out wide, you know the ones that can beat a man on the wing with speed and agility and get in the perfect cross, and an inspirational captain, you know the one that can motivate any player having an off day and lead by example. I'm sorry to say but most of the players we've got are playing like 'dead men walking'.

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Lobbo

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I know the weather was not ideal, but I have not seen the pitch look as sad as it did on saturday. There appeared to be a dearth of grass across most of its surface.Are we using the right seed\turf

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wivenhoebudgie

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Never felt better thank you Waclor; nor do my opinions change on a monthly basis. Although the sense of your two ripostes was slightly obscured by poor punctuation, they were very sweet and almost - but not quite - clever. And I can tell how hard you were trying. In regard to the football (let’s try again): so, you run your proverbials off in filthy conditions, with no encouragement from your ‘supporters’ (the Snakepit excused; wonderful as ever!), and then get booed off the pitch. That’s really good for morale isn’t it? I noticed that (Snoddy aside) there was very little appreciation from the players after the game. Don’t blame them….

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Dark Moon

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Okay I maybe mr positive glass half fill, type of guy, but watching the match on sky,if only 60 minutes of it, I have seen worse than that from the so called big six,in lesser conditions! In that first half,the pass between howson to kammy,which did make it,though kammy had to readjust as the ball had slowed due to the ground,would've been superb,leaving kammy a run into the area or shot! Instead by the time he had readjusted to meet the pass,he was closed down! The commentator stated the ground is deceptive in certain areas,and howson wasn't to blame...The game may have panned out different in normal march weather.... I have to watch and rewatch all our games,from both sky,and motd,while transferring,and editing, from my sky hd to my Sony hd,for my own season collection,which I include all experts analysis etc,which isn't ever included on my official season DVD...and love to see things in the cold light if day,sometimes 2 weeks or more,later ( just finished all the qpr game including editing,and we were more than pre. Quality that day!) When I do the same to this match,23 weeks from now,I will look closely at how the conditions,affected us,not forgetting the pressure because how important it was not to allow Southampton to move closer to us in the table! Great performances against Swansea away,man it'd and aresenal at home,( and west ham!! If you still have a recording of that,re watch it!)etc were easier at that stage of the season to play and express..,now is the time to not lose to rivals in our position... ,

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alan clark

Sunday, March 10, 2013
No Atlanta you're not ignorant and many of us are probably guilty of some overeaction but the fact remains that we have only scored more than one goal in a league match two or three times, most of the players who were here last season seem to have deteriorated and the football is so negative and boring. I for one fear for next season. You don't read the Guardian do you?

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waclor

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Hughton on BBC says we had the better of the chances..Really? Denial again. We had 3 shots at goal to their 15!!!!!!

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AC Canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Hughton in denial. The players have lost all confidence. We never seem to be first to a loose ball these days. You can mention the conditions but its been the same sort of performance all season. See the season out and then get some decent management in.

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AC Canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Got to agree with Dark Moon. Having followed game on Pink 'Un sight and then heard Canary Call, I expected an awful game, and I can understand how it would seem that way watching it in freezing, wet weather. Watching it on a 7-hour tape delay in comfort over 4,000 miles away, I thought the players coped well with conditions, and, yes, too many passes went astray, and we only had 3 shots on goal, but there were several other chances for both teams. If one of theirs had gone in, I hate to think what the comments would have been -- even if we had only one point less. If one of ours had, we'd be praising CH's tactics and celebrating near certain safety. OK, I'm ready for the onslaught...just don't call this Norwich boy an ignorant Yank!

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atlanta canary

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Correction Dark Moon, if Hughton manages to keep the team up this season, he will have surpassed anything that has been achieved since last season. However we will take into consideration your condition as described in the last word of your last post which explains your irrational outbursts. Hope you soon feel better.

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waclor

Sunday, March 10, 2013
The Guardian is written by and for people who spend their lives in a parallel universe where others work to pay taxes to keep them in their ivory towers and, what they ridiculously regard as work, whilst being praised by their peers adds nothing to the general well being of mankind. Their grip on reality matches their spelling ability. They would increase the aid budget and either deny the existence of unemployment or suggest that it could be cured by increasing the size of the civil service. Now isn't this a crass bigoted generalisation, Dark Moon? Just remember you started it.

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waclor

Sunday, March 10, 2013
I give up. It can surely be proven that the county of Norfolk aggregates the lowest IQ of any in the country. You kind of understand where Jeremy Clarkson is coming from and why Alan Partridge is able to hold down a decent job here. And, by the way, be careful what you wish for folk. Chris Hughton (our best manager since John Bond) may decide he’s had enough and move on if these mindless comments and the pathetic support at Carrow Road persist. Then what? No-one could have done a better job than Hughton has so far – and if he manages to keep City up this season he will have surpassed anything we’ve seen in the last 3 years. Period.

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Dark Moon

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Let's all please stop making excuses and accept the fact that we were awful once Again and if Southampton had taken their chances they would have been out of sight and we would have been left with egg on our faces. We cannot pass a ball, no cohesion, no tempo to our game, seems that we have also forgotten how to shoot. The tactics being used by CH clearly does not suit our players. Only two teams have scored fewer goals than us There's your problem CH sort it out. Also please stop talking up the opposition, and give our lads a bit of belief instead.Still think we will go down, if I'm wrong then serious changes need to be made in the summer.

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Essex yellow

Sunday, March 10, 2013
Just watched MOTD, they didn't show the 2 instances where if Holt had passed at all accurately Kamara would have scored. Worst players on the pitch were Howson and Kafu (I'm sorry). Hope Pilks isn't out too long. Kamara is DEFINITELY not yet ready to start.

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DocOhNo

Saturday, March 9, 2013
I see Morison scored a brace for Palace !

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andys

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Bluelight that was more exciting than the game.9 repeats. Classic

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wivenhoebudgie

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Lobbo - To say we are not Premier League standard is just a stupid thing to say and obviously intended to entice an argument! We were never in danger of relegation last season and in my opinion and many others (not all you armchair fans who have nothing better to do than sit on here and whinge all the time) we are not in danger of it again this season either. There are still 9 games left this season and to be almost safe with this amount of games to go is fantastic. Now don't get me wrong i'm not saying that the football is great at the minute but as long as we stay in this league then that's all that matters and with only loosing 3 games at home all season we must be doing something right! If you are such a true fan who will support City til you die why don't you do just that and support them instead of slagging them off all the while!

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mickncfc

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Mike Walker was the best ,ask Delia .....

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yarco

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Only too able to recollect a stream of idiotic bellowing and booing from so-called ‘fans’ around me at Carrow Road this afternoon and then, foolishly on my part, tuning into Radio Norfolk’s agonizing post-match phone-in as I undertook a tortuous journey home, I feel less that I have just attended a football match than that I somehow gate-crashed the Stalham Players’ stage production of ‘One flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest’. In very adverse circumstances, two whole-hearted teams produced a good game of football this afternoon. Look on the ‘The Guardian’ website and you will see it described as ‘deceptively thrilling’. Note to some (most?) here – ‘The Guardian’ is a newspaper without that red bit at the top on the front page. It has some intelligent articles in it that you have, perhaps, never quite understood.

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Dark Moon

Saturday, March 9, 2013
bloodt hell.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ditto cutty.

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bluelight

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Change of tack, who were the worst five managers of Norwich City since 1980?

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
To be a little pedantic ,I did say that MW was the best in the last 20 odd years. Stringer, Bond and Saunders were way before then. It was the Rioch - Hamilton era that finished me off. I remember coming away from the ground on one occasion and on being asked 'who won' could not even remember who we had just played.

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Steely Dan

Saturday, March 9, 2013
If Holt had scored that penalty I was ready to write a letter to Southampton to apologise. Not because it wasn't a penalty, it was, but because we played as bad as we have played since the Roeder days and if Southampton could hit a barn door we would have been stuffed. I have spent much of the last week in hospital but the 90 minutes today was more excruciating than anything else I have experienced this week. Not good. I still firmly believe we will stay up but we need another win in the next 3 or 4 games to put it to bed.

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158notout

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Why all the the moaning about Holt moving on.....In truth our front line couldn't hit a barn door from ten yards that's why we needed a top striker in January not the Loans or Has beens we signed!!

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dave123

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Hotts was a freudian slip, I did of course mean to say Hatts

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
My main beef with Hoots is that he appears to prefer to ignore a problem rather than take action. In reality there is NO competition for places because he rarely makes unforced changes. What have Elliott Bennett and Johnny Howson done recently to justify selection? Steven Whittaker and David Fox have proven ability as midfield players but can't get a look in. Hotts operates with a 16 man squad.

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
If Holt had scored that penalty I was ready to write a letter to Southampton to apologise. Not because it wasn't a penalty, it was, but because we played as bad as we have played since the Roeder days and if Southampton could hit a barn door we would have been stuffed. I have spent much of the last week in hospital but the 90 minutes today was more excruciating than anything else I have experienced this week. Not good. I still firmly believe we will stay up but we need another win in the next 3 or 4 games to put it to bed.

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158notout

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Both Ron Saunders and John Bond won major trophies for their clubs after leaving Norwich. On the player front, although he won't get the top job this year, I hear Father Mulryne is doing rather well in his new career.

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Perhaps awful conditions to play in but there really is no excuse in not beating Southampton today. We struggled to keep possession and allowed Southampton far too much space and time. Johnson aside, our midfield was awol and lacks any consistent creativity. Kamara and Becchio are going to find service from this lot about as regular as a restaurant waiter on sick leave. Howson terrible - inept passing and put us under pressure a couple of times around our own goal area. As for Holt - I think his head is somewhere else...

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Mellow_Yellow

Saturday, March 9, 2013
SussexYellow, I concur on the Dave Stringer comment. He was excellent and modest with it. Hoots is modest. I just hope, if we get into our 3rd consecutive Prem season, Hoots`ll be able to inject a bit of style & belief into our play. He seems such a nice bloke, it`s almost as if somebody else is pulling the strings at the training ground. Badly.

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Mad Brewer

Saturday, March 9, 2013
We were dire our mid field was none existant & as for Howson he may as well not been there,we had no ideas until Hoolahan came on.

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leslie cater

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Can'r agree on Mike Walker being our best manager - he inherited Dave Stringer's team who had already shown signs of greatness,proved he was a great organiser and motivator once he went to Everton proved that he was incapable of buying and managing big money players - just as PL has to date ......... MW did work wonders though as did PL, O'Neill is the one that should never have been allowed to get away when he did.

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SussexYellow

Saturday, March 9, 2013
I want to give Hoots the benefit of the doubt and say that he is trying the best he can with the resources he has. But I do ask the question, what on earth do they do on the training ground because the very basics just do not exist. The players seem to have forgotten how to play not only as a team but as professional footballers. They can'y keep the ball, pass the ball, cross the ball or hit the target on a regular basis. Having an off day is one thing, doing this continually is completely different. And that is very worrying. I just hope Hoots is somehow able to arrest this and get the team playing together again. otbc

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Canarygirl

Saturday, March 9, 2013
We won't 'creep over the line' MB more like crawl under a stone. It was a shocking performance (AGAIN):( tactics? formation? coaching? positioning and playing players to their strengths? and all the excuses and 'bigging up' the opposition every game is not working. Just go houghton before you drag us down and we end up playing Ips-it again (sorry EDP moderators forgot you are all Town fans.........)

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JJE

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Lobbo just wait till we play at the emirates, then the arch ant thing goes into overdrive. Good comments though.

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wivenhoebudgie

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Sussex CH probably wiziwigged a different game to get those rather strange views of the game.

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wivenhoebudgie

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Both teams should have shook hands on a draw at 3 o'clock and we could have all gone home to the warm and dry with a nice glass of whisky. I decided some time ago that this would be my last year as a season ticket holder, I'm too old to be sat outside in the middle of winter watching this type of football. I'll alway be a city supporter but I'll not be at Carrow Road next year, just like Holt.

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cutty

Saturday, March 9, 2013
ONE win in the 19 games outside that "run".

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Mad Brewer

Saturday, March 9, 2013
OMG, that was embarrassingly bad. Glad they don`t stream City games @ the pub anymore. Better to suffer that alone, without all the noisy cor-blimeys taking the p**s. We`ll probably creep over the line, thanks to that freak `Euro-best` 10 game run. Without that, the other 19 games have yielded 11 points with ONE win. Waclor`s Jan 14, 2014 portent is one of doom.

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Mad Brewer

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Got it.. it was sk ill. gets on my nerves. That's cour te ous .., sk ill and sc aping all falling foul of the machine. Come on Archant update your software.

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Lobbo

Saturday, March 9, 2013
No excuses, Norwich are not premier league standard. Holt is a shadow of his former self and obviously has forgotten what the offside rule is. I can't agree with people who say Snodgrass is good player, and whinge, whinge whinge, does he ever stop. Our passing is poor and done without conviction. When Bunn played a short ball we were closed down in an instant. When he kicked long it was always won by Southampton. Who has got the brains in our team, just tell me. Well done Southampton, they had 15 shots to our 3, their passing was better than ours, their individual sk ill levels were better than ours and their man marking was better than ours. I have seen nothing in our last 6 games that gives me any hope or enjoyment. I expect more from players on the wages that they are on. Norwich were clueless and useless. Bunn was man of match for me. We will stay up but oh dear me. and for my sins, "I will support them till I die".

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Lobbo

Saturday, March 9, 2013
trying to find the word that's blowing me out. clueless .. useless .. sins .. brains

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Lobbo

Saturday, March 9, 2013
testing .. whinge

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Lobbo

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Don't normally comment on City games but Albert's mention of Mike Walker has drawn me in. He certainly was the best in the last 20 odd years. Remember the night against Villa nearly 20 years ago. A short corner from Fox , a diving header from Megson ,great save by Bosnich and Polston smashing it in. City top of the table. Those were the days.

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Steely Dan

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Sorry, but it's boring reading the same old waffling excuses from Hughton after each game. Looking at the post Christmas performances, he seems for some reason to have lost the dressing room, resulting in below par performances from a demotivated team (or are they individuals?). The body language on the pitch is awful, and they're just not supporting each other in the way that they should. What's happened at Colney behind the scenes?

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Honest John

Saturday, March 9, 2013
True W. Only one manager has done any good after he left us.

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sharky

Saturday, March 9, 2013
"I thought we had the better chances" what game was Hughton watching they had 15 attempts we had 3,the stats dont lie.Its time for a few changes that was as poor a game as I have seen,the conditions werent great but they were the same for both teams.Howson needs to go,never impresses,lets bring in Foxy,put Snoddy on the left,Benno on the right and perhaps give Luci a go up front either alongside Holty or in place of with Hulahoops behind.We cant keep playing the same predictable stuff every week,we need to shake it up a bit to get over the line and then build for next season.OTBC

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canaryjon

Saturday, March 9, 2013
At this stage of the season, it was probably more important not to lose. I just hope playing like this does not become a habit or Hughton will have us relegated by Jan 14th 2014. Can't they show videos of paint drying on big screens to entertain the crowd?

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
He never made Everton's Hall of Fame.

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waclor

Saturday, March 9, 2013
what game was he watching - "I thought we had the better chances"??? City 3 shots, 2 on target, Saints 15 shots, 7 on target if i recall correctly from the TV stats. This was a game against a team below us in the league that lost their last game at home to the bottom team and we managed 2 shots on target. Not acceptable.

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SussexYellow

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Who remembers Mike Walker and the "style "

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Albert Cooper

Saturday, March 9, 2013