Chris Hughton laments Norwich City’s soft centre as Luis Suarez runs riot in Liverpool Premier League rout

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez plundered four goals in a 5-1 Premier League romp over Norwich City at Anfield. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Liverpool striker Luis Suarez plundered four goals in a 5-1 Premier League romp over Norwich City at Anfield. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Wednesday, December 4, 2013
10:35 PM

Chris Hughton admitted Norwich’s soft centre again contributed to their downfall as Luis Suarez inspired Liverpool to a 5-1 Premier League win on Wednesday night at Anfield.

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Suarez turned in a stunning display to sink the Canaries in a four-goal salvo capped by a stunning 35-yard half-volley over John Ruddy to open the floodgates, but Hughton was left to rue the second gifted by the visitors. Norwich were again found badly wanting at a corner in a repeat of their recent defeat at Newcastle and Hughton conceded that proved the killer blow.

It is a soft goal, a really soft goal,” he said. “You set your team up and players have responsibilities from set plays. You have to hope they are both resilient and disciplined enough to stay with men. That was the one that really hurt us. Most will look at the first goal, which I am sure will be replayed many times over, and think it was brilliance from Suarez rather than poor defending. I thought we started the game okay but the second hurts us and it makes it that much difficult.”

Hughton accepted the Uruguayan maestro was unplayable.

“He is a world class player but if you afford him that much space and time he is one person who has the ability to do what he did,” he said. “It has been a tough time for us dealing with him in recent games. I am more disappointed that we gave him the opportunities which he gratefully took for someone of his ability. My overriding feeling is we could have done more. I look at the first goal and not many can score that type of goal. He can, but there are not many others.”

Hughton opted to leave Gary Hooper out of his starting line up with Johan Elmander deployed up front in place of the club’s Crystal Palace match-winner.

“We have got a game on Saturday and two tough ones this week,” he said. “I decided to go with a 4-3-3 and Gary is certainly someone who performs better with a player alongside him and you can use that link. I felt Johan would give us more running on beyond and I wanted us to try and stretch them.”

Liverpool chief Brendan Rodgers revealed he had felt sorry for the City defence as Suarez ran riot.

“I really did feel for the Norwich defenders,” he said. “When you come up against a world class player it is very difficult to contain that and when he has lads supporting him like (Philippe) Countinho and (Steven) Gerrard it is tough. I haven’t seen many individual performances as good as that. It was sheer brilliance. It was a joy for me to watch the team tonight. I thought technically we were very good. To witness that individual performance was remarkable. I always like to talk about the team but I think you have to hold up Luis tonight. He is one of the best strikers in the world and that is an incredible performance. You could go through his goals and don’t forget his assists. The Ronaldo’s and the Gareth Bale’s and the Messi’s it is all about their numbers. You look at Suarez the goals he scores. He is probably the happiest he has been here right now. The maturity in his performances, he wants to train every day and I think this club suits him perfectly and his best years are going to be here. He has that connection wit the supporters. It is a hand in glove fit for him.”

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  • AC Canary "433 ? To me it was a classic case of 10 men behind the ball". Absolutely right. The major difference is that the second that a Norwich player got the ball there was a Liverpool player charging them down almost immediately hence we were penned back. The Norwich players weren't remotely pressuring Liverpool when Liverpool had possession a lot of the time, hence we ended up penned back. The manager's strategy and tactics aren't worth diddly squat if the players aren't prepared to make life difficult for the opposition when the opposing team has the ball.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • After the Man City drubbing I called for the board to have the courage to go for a young up and coming manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer currently working in his native Norway. What are they waiting for now, the orchestra to start playing as the Titanic slips beneath the waves? Chris Hughton is a lovely man but he's demonstrably not the man Norwich need to survive. I have a horrible feeling the board will wait and wait until it's too late and then bring in another has been from the constantly turning carousel of failures that are touted every time a vacancy occurs. Go on Delia and Co. Surprise us please. As a Suffolk based Canary for over 60 years I can't take much more of this.

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    David Mitchell

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • clueless manager with no idea in ANY match this season what team to pick and what substitutes to use - utterly hopeless bring back Ged and least he'll cheer us up on here until Hughton gets the sack.

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    citizen

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • …...In the absence of any positive news coming out of Carrow Road.....It must be assumed that Mr MaNally and The Board of Directors are happy with the way things are going....They therefore must have complete faith in the Manager, his team of coaches, and the players that have decided to delay their Christmas Holidays!...A Red Card by anyone in the next three games would ensure that they can join those on the injured (holiday) list and have a decent well deserved break over the Festive Period....It's all a bit unfair on our manager, as unless he has a touch of flu' will not be able to participate!....His band of Tea Ladies will no doubt keep him furnished with reasons and excuses, why things are not going to plan....That's a typing error we all know there is no plan!.....Oh! I almost forgot!....All you people who pay out around £500 or more to watch them have a choice!.....TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT !.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Pierre my guess at an answer to your question would be that. CH is opening up and playing more attacking stuff with having a better standard of player than we had last year. thats why we can beat the lesser sides now a bit more when we play half decent. That opens us up to the heavy defeats we are taking. The other sides like Hull and cardiff are where we were last year and defend manfully. The better sides have spent millions in the last 12 months and we just cant compete but against the lesser sides, we are actually looking better than a lot of them now. Thats why i am happy with the progress. After all, it was our own fans who were screaming for us to play more open attacking football but that has come at a cost. Damned if you do, damned if you don't syndrom

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    GPL

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I understand there's been an exponental Increase in demand for towels in norwich over recent weeks! Must be because your lot keep throwing the towel in every game. Keep up the good work "agent" Hughton!

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    Liz Knott

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I just cannot believe Hughton is still in place. If the Board thinks it may all turn out right in the end I believe they are sleepwalking in to the Championship. Hughton may get lucky at West Brom (although I doubt it) but that won't change anything and in a way will just further prolong the inevitable. The club has to make a move now and get an experienced coach in place in time for the Xmas fixtures or else it will be too late. That person also needs time to look at who he wants to bring in during the January window. But to sit and do nothing, in my view, is not an option.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Spot on Malaga. I've raised the Fergie situation before. United were considering sacking him in 1990. Signing Schmeichel the year after, pretty much saved his bacon. United were in a strange position as their team was good, but their goalies ( Leighton + Sealey) were rubbish. As soon as they signed the big man + stopped leaking goals they won everything in sight. Fergie was also recognised as a brilliant man motivator. Can we say the same about Hughton..? I think NOT ! We have some good players. We just don't have a boss worth his salt. Give Neil Adams the job on a temporary basis + see how he does. I predict we'd fly up the table !

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    Timbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Surely it's time for Neil Adams to have a crack at the first team now? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have gone with Elmander on his own upfront and he'd make sure our wingers were positioned where they need to be to give some decent service... For all this defensive set up business we still cant defend a corner so why not go sh1t or bust

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    GossVolley

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Got to admit, I don't have a season ticket at the moment. Health and work commitments precluded this, so unlike some of you I can choose when I want to go to the Carra. However, due to the dire nature of the games I have seen over the past 18 months, I am now even more choosy and if the pinch comes to the shove, I'd rather save my cash. How many other casual fans are voting like this? How long before the board sees the light? Or will it take another Luton in January to get them to come to their collective senses?

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    billythefleeceyoudrybookie

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • EDP need to set up a petition HUGHTON OUT NOW They also need to bring all these voices to the attention of the Board who seem to have lost their senses

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    Jim

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Yes, GPL, of course we cannot compete financially with the big clubs. That is a given. But it is not always a question of how much you spend but how well you spend it. I am sure the likes of Swansea don't have any more financial clout than Norwich. But they have bought better. Bought players who they knew would fit their pattern of play. Watched them last night and the way they play is a light year away from what we are seeing from our team. It is a matter of horses for courses - you buy within your means but choose wisely.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • …...We really are an angry army...It cannot be easy for anyone to work under this pressure.... Chrissy! as some of his absent supporters would say is a good man..ager!...and I feel I've aged considerably since he was appointed.....he too has no spring in his step, he gives the impression that the world (well Norfolk) is against him, and he has nowhere to hide.....He does his utmost to look the part!...chews gum like Ferguson..drinks from a bottle like Wenger, and slouches around that tech' area copying the action of the opposing manager....Come on together get behind him and call his name half a dozen times...that may bring a smile to his face!.... Then finish the chant of with OUT-OUT-OUT!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • 3.45pm and Hughton is still in Norwich! Someone at Carrow Road must have forgotten to set the alarm clock!

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I have always wanted CH to do well, but after a series of sub-standard performances, including Palace, it's time for a change. We haven't progressed since Lambert left us in terms of passion and entertainment. If we go down, I'd like to think we go down fighting and not with a white flag flying by the time we get to half time. Can't leave this much longer.

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    BureValleyPaddy

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • The board reckon the supporters of Norwich City are the best, they are words from Delia and David McNally, now considering the supporters inject approx. 12.5 million in tickets sales alone that's not including the over priced food under the stands OR the overpriced shop shirts etc, How about an apology from the chief executive for allowing us to watch that $h1te !!!

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    Colby Army!

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Steady on guys. Anyone here that says we want to be in the Championship must either be an Ipswich fan missing their bi-annual thrashing, or simply crazy. We want Premiership football, and we have a pool of players which is improving every transfer window (I miss Holt, but he's past it). However, the team isn't improving, and that is what needs to be addressed. Does Di Matteo sound like a good Norfolk surname?

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    MikelSA

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Oh for G0d sake, im sick of hearing how good Suarez was, He IS a fantastic world class striker so why oh why do we back off him and give him so much time to shoot and pick his passes. Our defending is a Joke constantly backing off and waiting for the other team to pass or shoot. Totally clueless, im gutted and how much longer can this go on

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    Jimhow

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Well said Trevor Sadd

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    el dingo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I don't want to hear any more drivel from this snivelling little wretch. I just want to read that he has been sacked.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Well we have 2 tough games this week so i'll chuck the first one and play my expensive striker in the second one, and cross fingers i may get something out of the second game. Really !!!

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Oh please, not the 'lost the dressing room' cliché again.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • After the Man City drubbing I called for the board to have the courage to go for a young up and coming manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer currently working in his native Norway. What are they waiting for now, the orchestra to start playing as the Titanic slips beneath the waves? Chris Hughton is a lovely man but he's demonstrably not the man Norwich need to survive. I have a horrible feeling the board will wait and wait until it's too late and then bring in another has been from the constantly turning carousel of failures that are touted every time a vacancy occurs. Go on Delia and Co. Surprise us please. As a Suffolk based Canary for over 60 years I can't take much more of this.

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    David Mitchell

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • I concur. If people asked 'why?' more then perhaps those in charge could start answering questions instead of skirting around them with media trained responses. I think its fair to say the generic "we've let ourselves down", "they're a great side with world class players" and so on is getting tiring to hear. I hope that the lot in charge of the EDP website forward all these points to the club's board (wishful thinking) so they can actual see how annoying it is for the fans, it's time that NCFC started acting like a football team in the 21st century and not casually hanging on to that old rhetoric of 'well, it's a family club so why change'. yeah, it's a family club that could actually perform if those in charge would let it, just needs a few shake-ups. what i can tell from this forum alone is everyone's tired of under-performing, so someone needs to pay heed.

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • CH has got to go NOW!

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    Essex canary

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Nice Bloke CH but after Saturdays certain defeat at West Brom itl be time for him to go!

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    dave123

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • ….but he's doing his best!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • One place where the manager has to be responsible though is that his players have to be more afraid of his reaction to a poor performance than they are of the players they're playing against and Hughton isn't managing that. Admittedly, he doesn't have much scope for dropping players at the moment, but the principle should be that if a player screws it up then they should be dropped and another player given a chance, not just sticking to regular favourites. That was somewhere where Lambert was superior to Chris because he was regularly rotating the squad and making them fight, not just giving players automatic tenure until injury gets them. It makes players not playing regularly despondent and those that are playing regularly complacent about their position. Still not buying into the Hughton out business, but Mr Hughton does need a little bit of fear from squad and that means being ruthless. Sort that part of your management and things you will see a lot less lacsidaisical performances from your team like this.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Yes Stew he is doing his best, but his best is nowhere near good enough. His pre match and post match comments say it all always boosting up the opposition. After Saturday it was yes we needed to win today as we have Liverpool coming up Wednesday. So what most of us probably knew we were beaten before we left Norwich but do not install that negativity into the players. We don't close the opposition down they are free to come at us be it Liverpool or Crystal Palace, for a team that had run last season of 10 games undefeated where has it all gone wrong. The only thing I got wrong last night was the scoreline I said 5-0 before the game never expected us to score. I said give him a chance at the start of the season but I think time and patience is running out lets have a change before it is too late.

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    JohnW

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • 433 ? To me it was a classic case of 10 men behind the ball

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    AC Canary

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Just checked the odds on "the sack race betting" and Hughton is now top of the betting at 6to 4. So get your money, on things are looking up

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    leslie cater

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • To be fair we did start well. We did close down their players, ruffled their feathers and pressured them into making mistakes. The first goal was fantastic but was something out of nothing. It's just that Elmander and Hoolahan were never going to score. We had one or two chances when we got Liverpool on the back foot. We hardly ever seem to be able to tread that perfect through ball for a forwrad to run on to and when we did have an overlap and put in a fine cross, how many city players are there, either to score or to pick up the scr*aps from a defensive mistake. So we have no players up front, none in midfield and are stretched at the back. Do we actually have 11 players on the pitch. BUT by far the worst is our inability to change our play when needed, either from on field inspiration or managerial input. That my canary chums is the problem. CH to go post haste and Adams as caretaker for me. I live in hope. I for one don't think we'll go down.

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    Lobbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Malaga, very much agree the manager issue is a gamble, but it is pretty much that both ways. Many clubs go through phases when fans are certain the manager has to go, then it all comes good without a change. Example Arsenal, perhaps now Villa. Likewise we all know how often a manager change is a fail. That's not to say I am wedded to no change here; just observing that it is not an easy call.

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    Pierre

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Agree, Norman., We saw tons of commitment from Sunderland. If you compare our display with theirs, regardless of the result, it was like chalk and cheese. Our players seem unable to get at their opponents or even worry them. No pressing. No tackling. All dither and indecision. Nobody appears to know what their jobs are. Half the team were in the midfield tonight yet they didn't appear to know when or whether to go forward so they ended up parked in midfield and backing off every time Liverpool piled upfield into them. As a result Liverpool were able to dominate us totally. We weren't going to win there but at least we ought to have shown total commitment, desire and made life difficult as possible for them. Watching MoTD, every team put in more effort than we did. It was embarrassing. I felt so sorry for the loyal fans who made the long trip. What did the team do to warm their hearts? Nothing! I expected us to lose and sadly also, under Hughton, expected the usual inept tactics and half-hearted performance. All too predictable. He is out of his depth in the Premiership and he has to go now and give us a chance to bring in someone who can motivate and organise the team and who will ensure they play their hearts out. That is the very least we should expect and demand.

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The light at the end of the tunnel is fading fast. Only a new manager with fire and determination can save us now. We need someone who is fully focused on our team, who gives them confidence and is not always saying how good the opposition is.

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    la barbe

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The board reckon the supporters of Norwich City are the best, they are words from Delia and David McNally, now considering the supporters inject approx. 12.5 million in tickets sales alone that's not including the over priced food under the stands OR the overpriced shop shirts etc, How about an apology from the chief executive for allowing us to watch that $h1te !!!

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    Colby Army!

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Jim: You expect the EDP to do THAT???!!! Their reporters are tolerated rather than accepted at NCFC - if they wrote anything actively anti-Hughton, Davitt would have to come and sit with us plebs in the Barclay. Petition my Ricky Tomlinson:)

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    el dingo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Well, CH may 'lament', but so do I. Time he went.

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    qantasqf1

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • I'm as infuriated as the rest of you guys. Hughton has to go, he's well out of his league. On a brighter note, it could he so much worse: we could have all grown up to be Ipswich fans! Every silver lining and all that.

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Please, please get rid of this useless individual. Agreed you gotta find someone better, but can that be difficult?

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    Cecil

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • Spot on Malaga. I've raised the Fergie situation before. United were considering sacking him in 1990. Signing Schmeichel the year after, pretty much saved his bacon. United were in a strange position as their team was good, but their goalies ( Leighton + Sealey) were rubbish. As soon as they signed the big man + stopped leaking goals they won everything in sight. Fergie was also recognised as a brilliant man motivator. Can we say the same about Hughton..? I think NOT ! We have some good players. We just don't have a boss worth his salt. Give Neil Adams the job on a temporary basis + see how he does. I predict we'd fly up the table !

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    Timbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Went for the defend with our lives setup again, and what a surprise got smashed again. I'm getting really fed up watching him speaking after the games, he should be raging mad, there should be fire coming out his ears, steam down his nose and blood from his eyes, from the rollocking he should be giving.But he just stands there saying the same old stuff, cool as a cucumber. If he is not replaced very soon, with someone alot more attack minded, we are in serious trouble. And because were "A good old friendly, family club", nothing will be done, and it will take years to recover again. Lets get a bit a nasty for a change, sack him now, before its to late.

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    Canaries007

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Breaking News: Hughton starts " Norwich City Fans Out" group on Facebook...

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    Timbo

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • …..Alright! that's enough Hughton bashing!....That man is doing his best!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • How about trying to get Neil Lennon? Got plenty of passion, balls and expects his players to win.

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    Joe

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • What makes people think he is a nice man? He's probably no nicer than other Prem managers. I hope we aren't sticking with him because he has a reputation for being media-friendly. Maybe he's too nice, and that's why he's so bad at his job?

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    Colin

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I don't know why everyone seems so keen on returning to the championship - what's wrong with a bit of vigour and spunk and actually taking it to the 'big clubs' like when City were first promoted. I always want to see Norwich do well. So if they're relegated to the Championship what then? Do. A Wigan and slip to mid-table and be jeered at by Leeds fans for stealing all their players. No thanks. Premier League all the way, it'd be nice to represent a perpetual thorn in the sides of Tottenham, Chelsea et al. It's not just about the team it's about the city too , it's something I'm quite proud of. I don't see what a defeatist attitude is going to promote - the same thing we 're seeing represented on the pitch I suppose. Norwich have it in them and they can perform but currently this is not what we're seeing owing to a mismatched manager and a great bunch of players. I'm hoping that 'the board' and it's members looks into it being 2014 and decides that progression is needed and chooses someone young and upcoming like David said. Surely they pay attention to the beleaguered fans social media rantings?! £25 million is a lot for a relatively smaller club to spend if their only ambition is to return to the championship tail firmly tucked between their legs...

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • How about trying to get Neil Lennon? Got plenty of passion, balls and expects his players to win.

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    Joe

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Norwich City cannot be a 'work in progress' because we're not progressing. We're retrogressing. Right back to the Championship. CH may be happy there, and apparently some fans, but not I! I want our team to be successful.

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    Cecil

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • If Suarez is so good how come Hull City managed to keep him quiet? If I was manager I'd have the team watching the Hull City vs Liverpool game over and over and over again, so they can see what they should have been doing! I sincerely hope that the Board at NCFC read these comments to prevent the anarchic scenes that saw the end of a previous manager. However it is my belief that they will hold on until the end of December to see how results go. If they decide to make a change I'd imagine they will do before the next transfer window, but sadly not now. The overwhelming view of people on here is that CH is a decent person, and I agree. Having said that there is no sentiment nowadays and it is time for change before the rot firmly sets in. CH may cite the lack of fit wingers for the team's current plight, but that's because he has no 'Plan B'. We do have the players to revert to the diamond formation! On a separate note why didn't Hooper play? We were certainly Ho(o)pe(r)less last night.

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    kevt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Another inept, gutless, performance. Players not putting in effort, strolling about, backing off, failing to make even a semblance of a tackle. In contrast what an effort every other team tonight put in - including Fulham! Hughton and his band of merry men have't got a clue how to inspire, set up a team, or who to select to play where. Where is the leadership on and off the pitch? Answer is there isn't any. All this money spent and all we have to see for it is a team even worse than last season. Unless the board grasp the nettle and show Hughton the door now, we are a lost cause. I agree, ask Ole!

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I think it's very easy to sit here and criticise from the comforts of our respective computers, there's always outside factors to consider, but the big CH isn't really working for City. Look how turgid the latter half of last season was, we ended up relying on other teams to do badly and then pulled out two (probably) lucky results. So I think City should have reconsidered CH's mild mannered temperament then. We need some vitriol, we need to start playing two strikers up front and we need to start getting posi. Imagine being a player reading this before a game and thinking to themselves "oh my, the fans think we're rubbish, I guess they're right, no point playing with any vigor then." We may lose on Sat, but it depends on the performance, if its as lacklustre as it has been then ultimately something needs to be addressed before or during the Xmas period.

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • It seems a long time ago that Hooper said he was looking forward to playing at Norwich to further his England ambitions!! Can't believe that McNally is happy with the situation nor that he is not working on a replacement and has at most given CH until Saturday to deliver. Even if he has not got a replacement yet, lose at WBA and CH will go anyway

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    andy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • It is of course CH who's lamentable. He just isnt up to the job and he has to go.

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    Cecil

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • How about trying to get Neil Lennon? Got plenty of passion, balls and expects his players to win.

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    Joe

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • To be fair we did start well. We did close down their players, ruffled their feathers and pressured them into making mistakes. The first goal was fantastic but was something out of nothing. It's just that Elmander and Hoolahan were never going to score. We had one or two chances when we got Liverpool on the back foot. We hardly ever seem to be able to tread that perfect through ball for an attacker to run on to and when we did have an overlap and put in a fine cross, how many city players are there, either to score or to pick up the scraps from a defensive mistake. So we have no players up front, none in midfield and are stretched at the back. Do we actually have 11 players on the pitch. BUT by far the worst is our inability to change our play when needed, either from on field inspiration or managerial input. That my canary chums is the problem. CH to go post haste and Adams as caretaker for me. I live in hope. I for one don't think we'll go down.

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    Lobbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • At the end of the day, no amount of sugar coating will hide the fact that the blame will always fall at the managers door. Are the players bad players? No. In that case why are they not playing to there potential? Tactics? lack of motivation? Bad man management? What ever way you look at it, its the managers job to get the players performing to the best of there abilities. If they fail, he fails. None of this rubbish about "the manager cant go on the pitch and do it, its the players fault". We have a squad capable of so much more.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Im angry while writing this but I can tell you im totally level headed when it comes to telling you exactly how the WBA game will go. We will set up as usual to ensure we dont lose the game before we think about winning it. Only problem is we will ship 2 or 3 goals (no drubbing I hope!) which will be more down to our own inability to defend within a defensively set up tactic than the other teams amazing ability and Hughton & Co will look on with no emotion as usual. Thats almost certainly whats most likely to happen. IF and its a big 'if' we get extremely lucky WBA will have a totally out of character off day and thanx to us being set up to ensure we dont let a goal in before we think about scoring one, will get a very boring draw. Thats if were incredibly lucky remember! Most likely it'll be the 2 or 3-0 loss.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Its come to the point now where keeping Hughton is about as much use as a wet fart in white pants. Stop this 12 month downward spiral before its to late.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I think you are all wrong. I think CH will be manager of Norwich come February at least and we will be doing OK - I dont see that any other manager would be doing any better, i really don't. I actually think that a lot of our fans are quite unrealistic in our expectations of what we can achieve. We are a work in progress and i think the pace of our progression is more than acceptable. i know for a lot of people it is not but i think we would be more in danger of going down under someone else

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    GPL

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I just hope that the Board don't follow Hughton's tactics and wait until it's too late to make a change. Loved the guy, but just tired of this football now. Don't even look forward to the next game.

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    Rob

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Standing back from the comments, CH did not look a bad bet when we took him on and can't remember any who said differently. Unfortunately reality has now taken over and he has proved not to be up to the job. We have consistently failed to pressurise the other team and that has to be down to management. There are many other failings with which we are all too familiar. It seems a long time ago that Hooper said he was looking forward to playing at Norwich to further his England ambitions!! Can't believe that McNally is happy with the situation nor that he is not working on a replacement and has at most given CH until Saturday to deliver. Even if he has not got a replacement yet, lose at WBA and CH will go anyway

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    andy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Is Chris Hughton the worst Norwich manager of the the last 20 years? with a win % rate in the league of under 27%. If he is left in charge I can see this % rate at under 24% at the end of the season. Though where the 4 wins will come from remains to be seen. Message to the board act now get rid of this manager and his assistants now who are way out of depth in the premiership. Championship management is all Hughton is capable of.

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    Rob

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I think it's the constant silence which follows all these humiliating results which really irks the fans. We need to know why we're playing so poorly and whether anyone on the board actually knows the results!

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The board might be happy with how things are progressing under CH but the fans clearly aren't. The same fans, remember, who purchase all the kits, all the scarfs, all the tickets home and away, not to mention Canary Player for some fans as well, and what are we getting back? Terrible game after terrible game. Right now we might as well be flushing our hard earned money down the drain because at least that way we'd know it wasn't helping line the pockets of an awful management team!

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Give it up now Hughton. You've had your spell as manager now go before you do anymore damage. You are not cutting it in the Premier League!

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    Davman66

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Yes Stew he is doing his best, but his best is nowhere near good enough. His pre match and post match comments say it all always boosting up the opposition. After Saturday it was yes we needed to win today as we have Liverpool coming up Wednesday. So what most of us probably knew we were beaten before we left Norwich but do not install that negativity into the players. We don't close the opposition down they are free to come at us be it Liverpool or Crystal Palace, for a team that had run last season of 10 games undefeated where has it all gone wrong. The only thing I got wrong last night was the scoreline I said 5-0 before the game never expected us to score. I said give him a chance at the start of the season but I think time and patience is running out lets have a change before it is too late.

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    JohnW

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Chris Hughton i feel his career has ended tonight at norwich they need someone to inspire them now or championship here we come

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    MrB

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The board clearly stated they want "mid table mediocrity" only a week ago. We cannot achieve that under Hughton.occassionally winning 1-0 or 2-1 at home against the poorest sides in the league (in amoungst all the thrashing we get) is not just unacceptable, its blooming laughable. Were better than the laughing stock we've become under Hughton.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • At the end of the day, no amount of sugar coating will hide the fact that the blame will always fall at the managers door. Our the players bad players? No. In that case why are they not playing to there potential? Tactics? lack of motivation? Bad man management? What ever way you look at it, its the managers job to get the players performing to the best of there abilities. If they fail, he fails. None of this rubbish about "the manager cant go on the pitch and do it, its the players fault". We have a squad capable of so much more. The board clearly stated they want "mid table mediocrity" only a week ago. We cannot achieve that under Hughton. The last 12 months should be the final proof for anyone still living in the clouds. Scraping the occassional 1-0 or 2-1 at home against the poorest sides in the league is not just unacceptable, its blooming laughable. Were not champions league contenders but were certainly alot better than the laughing stock we've become under Hughton. Proof is in the pudding.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • He`s a nice man .All you can say in his favour . Coaches not up to it , Scouting System likewise . Whole CH setup is weak . Should have brought in Mike Phelan and the two coaches who went to Fulham while they were available .Too slow to sack him .

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    dragonfly

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Can't be bothered to comment on this site as it will make no difference to future results.

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    goldie

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I am actually feeling an overriding sense of guilt for attending last night. i dont know whether its cos i have a young child and i cant help thinking i could have spent that hard earned £44 on her rather than that absolute dross. i now know how all those who travelled to man city must have felt and feel even worse for those who travelled to both. I havent read all the posts and i know the club will not care to lose one supporter here but i dont think i will continue travelling to see us until hughton is gone. the man is utterly gutless and void of ideas. at least the likes of redmond and fer came over and apologised to the fans last night, would have been nice to see hughton do the same. but no he was to busy itching to get off and give his interview about how amazing the opposition are - again. if you're 3-0 down at half time then its not working Chris, and then when you do change it you take off Hoolahan who along with howson and if im being generous johnson was the only one to show any heart. one last point, im not exaggerating when i say elmander is the worst player ive ever seen at norwich, and im old enough to remember Dean Coney and more recently theoklitos. send him back to turkey and hop on the plane with him hughton

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    bonesy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I'd like some comment from Brew, Pa or Doc. Stew's just posted, what you drinking tonight old chum?

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    Lobbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I shall be sorry if we've missed the Phelan boat. He knows Norwich and has a wealth of experience in the Premier League at the highest level. It's the indecisiveness of the board I suppose, plus perhaps a reluctance to admit their mistake in appointing this nincompoop in the first place.

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    Cecil

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I want to stay in the Premier League. This is where we belong. We're a proud city with great heritage and we deserve to be here. Hughton doesn't care about the city, the fans or the team. If he stays then there's only going to be one outcome, and we all know what that is.

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Must be a tough decision for an EPL Manager.. 3 nil down at half time.....2 strikers on the bench...mmmmmmm. leave them there ??

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    tom the taxi

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • C.H.LAMENTS ! could it be he is a lamentable manager that instiulls in his players lamentable performances week i week out.! Ask not for whom the bell tolls ,it tolls for thee!

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    Albert Cooper

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I am not surprised Sky TV are ignoring us, who can blame them. I don't think many people want to watch us, unless they are trying to get to sleep! Sky will show the smaller teams, if they are making a game of things, sadly we just lay down and die, all too often.

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    Henry

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Yes Stew he is doing his best, but his best is nowhere near good enough. His pre match and post match comments say it all always boosting up the opposition. After Saturday it was yes we needed to win today as we have Liverpool coming up Wednesday. So what most of us probably knew we were beaten before we left Norwich but do not install that negativity into the players. We don't close the opposition down they are free to come at us be it Liverpool or Crystal Palace, for a team that had run last season of 10 games undefeated where has it all gone wrong. The only thing I got wrong last night was the scoreline I said 5-0 before the game never expected us to score. I said give him a chance at the start of the season but I think time and patience is running out lets have a change before it is too late.

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    JohnW

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Lets get to the Championship, its the best place for us. Sky ignore teams like Norwich, they don't like the "minnows" its all about the top six. We will never cut it in the Premiership, better to win in the Championship, than keep losing in the Premier.

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    Derek McDonald

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Chris Hughton laments Norwich City’s soft centre????? The only soft centre at Norwich City is HUGHTON! He's a disgrace... the sooner he goes the better... let's get a manager who wants to fight and attack instead of the insipid tosh we've witnessed these last 18 months plus.

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    Hucks1960 .

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Oh and the cutaways to the bench last night told the story of how clueless Hughton and his team of useless sidekicks really are.

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    jigs69

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • people can argue all they want about the style of play and the heavy defeats but the end result last year was 44 points and 11th place and we are on target for a similar points tally this year again. The heavy defeats have been away at Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City and many a team have gone to those places and took beatings. Be careful what you wish for because I think we will go backwards by changing manager and I dont care if i am in a minority now but I firmly believe it. The fans desire to have their ears tickled by free flowing football is vetoed by the board's desire to stay in the Premiership. I think the board have got it spot on and the fans are the ones who need to restrain their desires and aspirations for a few years until we have more stability

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    GPL

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • Exactly. Just because we pay our money, we understand it does not guarentee results. The thing that really gets to loyal fanbase, especially those that go home and AWAY is we pay through the nose to support this club and get nothing back in return 90% of the time. If you get utterly thumped 4,5,6-0 once in a blue moon then you can accept that. But we consistently forget to show up away from home and the home performances are hardly inspiring. We as fans live off optimism....the "I fancy us to win today".....etc.....thats been well and truly beaten out of us by Hughton and his coaching team.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I don't know why everyone seems so keen on returning to the championship - what's wrong with a bit of vigour and actually taking it to the 'big clubs' like when City were first promoted. I always want to see Norwich do well. So if they're relegated to the Championship what then? Do a Wigan and slip to mid-table and be jeered at by Leeds fans for stealing all their players. No thanks. Premier League all the way, it'd be nice to represent a perpetual thorn in the sides of Tottenham, Chelsea et al. It's not just about the team it's about the city too , it's something I'm quite proud of. I don't see what a defeatist attitude is going to promote - the same thing we 're seeing represented on the pitch I suppose. Norwich have it in them and they can perform but currently this is not what we're seeing owing to a mismatched manager and a great bunch of players. I'm hoping that 'the board' and it's members looks into it being 2014 and decides that progression is needed and chooses someone young and upcoming like David said. Surely they pay attention to the beleaguered fans social media rantings?! £25 million is a lot for a relatively smaller club to spend if their only ambition is to return to the championship tail firmly tucked between their legs...

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Yes Stew he is doing his best, but his best is nowhere near good enough. His pre match and post match comments say it all always boosting up the opposition. After Saturday it was yes we needed to win today as we have Liverpool coming up Wednesday. So what most of us probably knew we were beaten before we left Norwich but do not install that negativity into the players. We don't close the opposition down they are free to come at us be it Liverpool or Crystal Palace, for a team that had run last season of 10 games undefeated where has it all gone wrong. The only thing I got wrong last night was the scoreline I said 5-0 before the game never expected us to score. I said give him a chance at the start of the season but I think time and patience is running out lets have a change before it is too late.

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    JohnW

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • okay so hughton's meant to be a nice guy as people keep saying... but tell who has ever won anything from being a nice guy? fergie & jose made there success from being nice guys? even lambert had a less soft side. the players must be sick of the tactics and the managers team sheets. he has to go!

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    norfolk shrimper

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • …..Same as last night lobbo! ..Australian 'Yellow Tail Merlot' 13.5%..followed by a generous helping of Famous Grouse!...Good job I'm a pensioner!.. …...la barbe..it's time to call in Pa Snipps!.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Anyone who had watched the whole game would have seen we did not play that badly. Suarez was on fire because we gave him too much respect..as we always do which is why he loves to play against us. CH once again was tactically inept - no attack, Elmander is not going to score us goals so as soon as they score..we can't respond. so he kept to the same formation and they kept scoring CH did nothing to change the game...swapping Elmander for Hooper is laughable..Hooper hardly touched the ball after that ..BJ had his best game for a long time and took his goal well! Overall, we are now the PL whipping boys, well done NCFC Board thanks for that - you now seem unable to react as much as CH just letting us slide further into the mire. Praise to the City fans at Anfield who sang their hearts out - a thankless task trying to support a hopeless manager.

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    kevin rymell

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Can't believe there are still Hughton apologists out there. What's the matter with you? CH has been in charge for 18 months, spent £25 million, and we're worse now than when he started. His team are painful to watch and they keep losing massively. How bad does it have to get before we get rid of the idiot? Nice guy though, yeah.

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    Cecil

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • This farce is getting more laughable as the days roll by, it is only tempered by the Prancing Donkey fans emerging with their two pennyworth of tosh from the fear of City being able to have two easy matches should the worse happen. Looking at clubs that have gone down it does not take much to see how they have deteriorated, the Prancing Donkeys are a good example, they are deep in financial trouble, team of cast offs winning against rubbish, an exciting fixture list, nothing to look forward to other than Christmas, makes them truly envious to look up the A140. Put Neil Adams in charge, play football again, lose to the mega rich clubs but still more than good enough to stay up there.

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    blackdog2

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Just heard we are getting aChristmas presant from c h -----his resignation L OL

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    richard grout

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • If Suarez is so good how come Hull City managed to keep him quiet? If I was manager I'd have the team watching the Hull City vs Liverpool game over and over and over again, so they can see what they should have been doing! I sincerely hope that the Board at NCFC read these comments to prevent the anarchic scenes that saw the end of a previous manager. However it is my belief that they will hold on until the end of December to see how results go. If they decide to make a change I'd imagine they will do before the next transfer window, but sadly not now. The overwhelming view of people on here is that CH is a decent person, and I agree. Having said that there is no sentiment nowadays and it is time for change before the rot firmly sets in. CH may cite the lack of fit wingers for the team's current plight, but that's because he has no 'Plan B'. We do have the players to revert to the diamond formation! On a separate note why didn't Hooper play? We were certainly Ho(o)pe(r)less last night.

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    kevt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Di Matteo, Neil Lennon, personally he would of been sacked weeks ago and i would have tried for Martin O'neill again. But we will do the predictable, so when hes sacked im sticking 50 quid on Malkey Mackey

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    Canaries007

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • GPL, you make some interesting points in defence of CH but I think a strategy of relying on beating 6 of the bottom sides 1-0 to gain a potential maximum 36 points is walking a tight rope. We all know that usually matches in the EPL are decided on fine margins, sometimes refs decisions, so easily those hopeful 1-0 wins can be reverses, or draws. The second point is the physchology on the team and supporters of continually losing by 3 or 4 goals in the first half. Thirdly what decent strikers are going to want to come to Norwich in the future where their goal tally is going to be 4 or 5 a season at best. I just don't see this strategy working and neither is it acceptable to the fans

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • We need a no nonsense Latin America Manager but not Maradona.....let me explain When Brits watch "Survival" with the lion chasing zebra we generally hope the zebra gets away. I Latin America when the lion pulls down the zebra there is a cheer! Norwich need to stop being nice and politically correct and start being ruthless, intimidating like the old Stoke.

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    Watton Warrior

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I don't know why everyone seems so keen on returning to the championship - what's wrong with a bit of vigour and actually taking it to the 'big clubs' like when City were first promoted. I always want to see Norwich do well. So if they're relegated to the Championship what then? Do a Wigan and slip to mid-table and be jeered at by Leeds fans for stealing all their players. No thanks. Premier League all the way, it'd be nice to represent a perpetual thorn in the sides of Tottenham, Chelsea et al. It's not just about the team it's about the city too , it's something I'm quite proud of. I don't see what a defeatist attitude is going to promote - the same thing we 're seeing represented on the pitch I suppose. Norwich have it in them and they can perform but currently this is not what we're seeing owing to a mismatched manager and a great bunch of players. I'm hoping that 'the board' and it's members looks into it being 2014 and decides that progression is needed and chooses someone young and upcoming like David said. Surely they pay attention to the beleaguered fans social media rantings?! £25 million is a lot for a relatively smaller club to spend if their only ambition is to return to the championship tail firmly tucked between their legs...

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Birdie- all well + good. But it's up to the manager to make sure the players follow his instructions on the pitch, because he takes responsibilty if they lose !

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    Timbo

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Nothing like being the whipping boys and laughing stock still the town are going up the town are going up lets all laugh at Norwich lets all laugh at Norwich

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    Townman

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Hey Jim: you got your poll!!! Plus it'll deflect the heat from this thread, of course.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Steady on guys. Anyone here that says we want to be in the Championship must either be an Ipswich fan missing their bi-annual thrashing, or simply crazy. We want Premiership football, and we have a pool of players which is improving every transfer window (I miss Holt, but he's past it). However, the team isn't improving, and that is what needs to be addressed. Does Di Matteo sound like a good Norfolk surname?

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    MikelSA

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Hughton is spot on in his assessment. Our players did give them too much space and for players at this level it should go without saying that you should be pressuring their players on and off the ball. It shouldn't be necessary for a premier league manager to teach his players how to suck eggs.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • WOW what a lot written on this subject. We didnt play well, Liverpool and in particular played brilliantly and we got badly beaten again but lets take a reality check. We are not a great side. We are punching above our weight in a really top league; however we have 5 or 6 games coming up where we could conceivably take 9 or 10 points before January and if we do then we are well on course to finish mid table again - I do have one real gripe though. These heavy defeats need to be halted because that gives teams confidence coming into matches against us so for that reason we really do need a defensive midfielder in place because we are missing Alex Tettey very badly since he has been out. Simply because Fer doesnt have the stamina to do it and Howson is more of an offensive player and Bradley Johnson, well, I do not think it coincidence that we take our biggest hammerings when he is in the team. He just is not a Premiership standard player

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    GPL

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I see on the NCFC site CH has "asked" for more from his players against West Brom - asked, asked!!! What about Demanding. Just too nice a guy to be successful in the EPL. Everyone questioned why Newcastle sacked him - I think we have the answer.

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I wonder which player will be wheeled out to talk to the EDP tomorrow and sing off the old song sheet - we let ourselves down, we let the fans down,it really hurt us ( but they did not have to pay to go up there) and the old chestnut that they have a chance on Saturday to put it right. WHAT A SHAMBLES.

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    leslie cater

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Is Chris Hughton the worst Norwich manager of the the last 20 years? with a win % rate in the league of under 27%. If he is left in charge I can see this % rate at under 24% at the end of the season. Though where the 4 wins will come from remains to be seen. Message to the board act now get rid of this manager and his assistants now who are way out of depth in the premiership. Championship management is all Hughton is capable of.

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    Rob

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • "We're a proud city with great heritage and we deserve to be here" - Couldn't have said it any better myself. Going back to my point though - £25 million is a sure fire sign that there's ambition there, just got to unlock it. Look at Hull City Tigers: Scourge of the North. C'mon NCFC I still believe in you! Maybe I should be drafted in to a do a half time team talk?

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Standing back from the comments, CH did not look a bad bet when we took him on and can't remember any who said differently. Unfortunately reality has now taken over and he has proved not to be up to the job.

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    andy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Psychologically, can a flawed team keep picking itself up from being thrashed by the top teams to get positive results from the mid table and below teams? I understand from a friend who's a Hull supporter that Liverpool were very poor on Saturday. He wasn't convinced it was Hull containing them, just a bad day for Liverpool. So it was a good night from Liverpool, and it's goodnight from .....

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    Surrey Canary

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Mattias, Timbo, Canterbury Tales - I love your perspectives. The trouble with our Board is that with the probable exception of McNally they have barely played the game in their lives and are open to all sorts of platitudes. I predict Hughton will not get the tin tack until he loses at home to Swansea. Like most of us I hate criticising the club I love but the only word that accurately describes our Board is NAIVE.

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    el dingo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • LETS B AVING U Delia !!!!! I'm city till I die

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    Colby Army!

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Of course.Adams would be the ideal choice wouldnt he.Won the FA Youth Cup last year and before that he was a successful manager of.Oh hang on, he wasn't.Is there any club in the EPL who would give the managers job to someone with such limited experience.Promote him to a more responsible job within the club but come on-manager?

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    Trevor Sadd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • With the amount of shoulder shrugging & saying "well Liverpool are a good team" im seeing from NCFC fans it appears even the fans are starting to sound like Hughton.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • After the Man City drubbing I called for the board to have the courage to go for a young up and coming manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer currently working in his native Norway. What are they waiting for now, the orchestra to start playing as the Titanic slips beneath the waves? Chris Hughton is a lovely man but he's demonstrably not the man Norwich need to survive. I have a horrible feeling the board will wait and wait until it's too late and then bring in another has been from the constantly turning carousel of failures that are touted every time a vacancy occurs. Go on Delia and Co. Surprise us please. As a Suffolk based Canary for over 60 years I can't take much more of this.

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    David Mitchell

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • "We're a proud city with great heritage and we deserve to be here" - Couldn't have said it any better myself. Going back to my point though - £25 million is a sure fire sign that there's ambition there, just got to unlock it. Look at Hull City Tigers: Scourge of the North. C'mon NCFC I still believe in you! Maybe I should be drafted in to a do a half time team talk?

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • For anyone that follows me on twitter (@mattjohnson333 shameless plug), I said the day Hoots was appointed that give it time and the club will get totally divided on the management. I warned that his style wouldnt be suited to most fans taste and even more so after being treated for years with exciting, goals galore games under Lambert. Most people told me I was wrong. Silly thing is even through all of that I backed him, and got behind him as much as possible. Yet gradually over time everyone of those people who moaned at me have changed there tune and called for his head. What always going to go this way. Kind of like Man Utd replacing Ferguson but on a much smaller scale. Lambert had his faults but end of the day was seen as a legend. Who ever followed him was always facing a near impossible task. Hughton hasnt helped his caused one little bit. Cant defend him anymore. Just frustrating that me, your average joe could spot this coming a mile off on the very day we appointed him. The good thing is the players we have are clearly good players. RVP, Fer, Snodgrass, Hooper etc....there all players of top pedigree and under the right management will surely flourish. Yes many are injured now but Hoots has had large periods where they've all been fully fit and still couldnt get the best out of them. We've become a total laughing stock.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • If CH survives I would suggest he removes the captaincy from Bassong. The responsibility appears to have affected his game considerably, and he doesn't have the all essential natural leadership skills that are needed from what I can see. Whatever plans are being dicussed and worked out in training are clearly not finding there way onto the pitch during game time. Its the Captains job to ensure that this happens.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Very bored of these pasting’s against the big boys. I don’t necessarily expect to win, but I expect us to make a fist of it, and to at least draw or lose by narrow margins. This is killing our goal difference which I can see costing us this year. Where was the game plan on shutting out Suarez? We’ve had 2 opportunities to learn our lessons from him, yet we stood so far off him all game (going by MOTD anyway) it was ridiculous! We looked terrified! So embarrassing to have this record attached to us now (first player to score 3 consecutive hatricks in Prem). We are becoming a laughing stock, and it’s created another monkey to get off our back. After every game we hear the same broken record about “learning from defensive mistakes”, “can’t give these teams a head start”, “need to put it right starting on Saturday” etc, and every week we get the same no-shows. Mick Dennis still chirps on about he’s a good manager, and it will all come good – where’s his evidence?!! I’ve got 1 ½ seasons worth of evidence that says he CAN’T do it! Worrying thing is I’m not surprised and I expected us to lose heavily anyway. I didn’t even bother to listen on the radio! So predictable. The clock is ticking Mr. McNally......

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    Smudger75

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • After the Man City drubbing I called for the board to have the courage to go for a young up and coming manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer currently working in his native Norway. What are they waiting for now, the orchestra to start playing as the Titanic slips beneath the waves? Chris Hughton is a lovely man but he's demonstrably not the man Norwich need to survive. I have a horrible feeling the board will wait and wait until it's too late and then bring in another has been from the constantly turning carousel of failures that are touted every time a vacancy occurs. Go on Delia and Co. Surprise us please. As a Suffolk based Canary for over 60 years I can't take much more of this.

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    David Mitchell

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • I see a lot of fans upset not at losing but at losing by so many goals ..... Unfortunately it looks like CH and Norwich do not match. For the bottom 7 teams to succeed they need fire, enthusiasm and passion....like Hull displayed on Saturday.

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    Watton Warrior

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Suarez is a great player who has used Norwich City for target practice demonstrating our lack of resolve and inept tactics. Meanwhile Bruce shows tactical awareness and ability to recruit the right people to stop Liverpool in their tracks! Alright Hull have spent big money but we have spent a considerable amount with more to come in January. Will funds be spent wisely? How many will want to come and be treated like Becchio?

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    mardler

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • How can you spend all that money Cris and make the side worse. Are ipswitch paying you more than Norwich or is the trip up from London each weekend becoming a bore

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    Panic

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • What is it that makes people think that CH is the only manager who makes late substitutions and praises other teams.They are all at it.Even Brendan Rodgers was on TV saying that Norwich were a good side and it would be a hard game.It's par for the course when it comes to interviews,just as it is for a player to tell you how gutted they are to lose a match and how they feel sorry for the fans etc etc.The only thing that changes is usually a different player each week.

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    Trevor Sadd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Even if he hasn't 'lost the dressing room' it's safe to say he has 'lost the terraces' and I think that makes his job untenable even if we were to go on a good run of results

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    Trevor Sadd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Can any City fan now defend this utter clown? How many more hammerings do we have to take? Didn't we draw @ An-failed in our 1st season back in the Premier? Not much sign of a point tonite. We now have the second worst goal difference in the division. Thanks for nothing Hughton ! PS: Where's that advocate of blind faith NCFC boy? Gone a bit quiet haven't we darling?

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    Timbo

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Not so much the soft centre that's the problem, more the soft in the head management team.

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    VictorM

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Spot on Mattias333. We have the quality to stay in this league without too much drama, but our management team haven't a clue how to achieve this!

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • To continue the theme below, Hughtons tactics are killing the international chances of Hooper and RVW not to mention Ruddys. That is another demoralising effect on the team. Finally have you ever heard a Norwich City player come out and say what a good manger Hughton is? Losses to WBA have been a graveyard for managers in past months so we can hope for one more day. Frankly if Hughton is not gone by the weekend I am tearing up my membership and selling my shares I just can't take any more of this rubbish

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • To be fair we did start well. We did close down their players, ruffled their feathers and pressured them into making mistakes. The first goal was fantastic but was something out of nothing. It's just that Elmander and Hoolahan were never going to score. We had one or two chances when we got Liverpool on the back foot. We hardly ever seem to be able to tread that perfect through ball for a forward to run on to and when we did have an overlap and put in a fine cross, how many city players are there, either to score or to pick up the scraps from a defensive mistake. So we have no players up front, none in midfield and are stretched at the back. Do we actually have 11 players on the pitch. BUT by far the worst is our inability to change our play when needed, either from on field inspiration or managerial input. That my canary chums is the problem. CH to go post haste and Adams as caretaker for me. I live in hope. I for one don't think we'll go down.

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    Lobbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Lets all just shrug our shoulders and say what a good team Liverpool are. Lets just accept the 12 months of underachieving. If you lose the odd game by a big score line, even with a total no show you can almost forgive it. But we consistently get utterly stuffed by sides and its getting beyond a joke now. As an away fan I can tell you the the regulars are getting well and truly fed up. We get ripped off week after week. With the players we've got, someone else in charge could really do something special at NCFC. Just gotta make the next appointment the correct one.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • What is important is not City, but football at the grass roots, that is what we should be interested in, what happens at Thetford, Dereham, Fakenham, Downham Market, etc, football is not just about City. Is there any hope? I doubt it, I keep saying I'm off to join the WI, who can blame me.

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    Les Lawrence

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • …..I am sure you will all have noticed that there are NO comments about last nights match from Sparky-Stedy Off -Stedys Mom -Melly Yelly -Dr Who – Pie ear – nice boy and a few more of the multiple named band of barmy sisters!...I wonder if they are rehearsing for the Xmas panto 'Nice man and his Seven Tea Ladies'?.....

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Sad thing is, these thrashings dont come as any surprise anymore. They are becoming the norm.

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    Henry

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Nice Bloke CH but after Saturdays certain defeat at West Brom itl be time for him to go!

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    dave123

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Apologies if this appears twice. Usual problems with the EDP website Anyway to all you so called fans thinking it is better in the Championship. Total nonsense. look at the 6 teams relegated since we came up. Wolves have dropped further to Div 1, Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn are miles off the play offs (they are even below Ipswich), Reading are 5th. OK so QPR are 2nd but who wants to be like them?!? All have seen crowds disappear, Sky money will be lower and their best players have been sold. Not for me thanks very much. Get behind your team and let's stay in the Prem

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    Bedford Canary

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Well we have 2 tough games this week so i'll chuck the first one and play my expensive striker in the second one, and cross fingers i may get something out of the second game. Really !!!

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Hull we're able to control Suarez but not us. We now adopt a defensive set of tactics and yet we let in more goals than any other club except for Sunderland I'm a great believer in studying body language as an indicator of psychology. I look at the management team at home games and I get the feeling they are lost and out of their depth during match-time tactics Prediction for Saturday 0-0 at best but more likely WBA 3-0 Hughton to make a substitution at 2-nil down in the 80th or thereabouts minute. By the way how is RVW's sore toe? At the end of the day soccer players are men in their twenties. How many men in their twenties respond to 'nice guys'? Especially football players who are usually the lads who when they were at school sat at the back of the class (Ruddy excepted) In short, we need a tough guy-it's all in Fergusan's autobiography

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    Canterbury Tales

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The fact that the same failings occur so frequently must be down to management of the players and the tactics that they are instructed to follow. I rather fear that CH is displaying a rabbit in the headlights syndrome and hoping that things will come right without having a clue on what to do to change things.

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    andy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Just checked the headlines - still no news coming out of Carrow Road - have the board lost their voices as well as their common sense. Everyone says CH is a decent bloke - he needs to do the decent thing and walk. And take Bewilderwood and company with him.

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    Jim

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Algarve, if you're out there, I stumbled on your post from after the Man U win last year, puzzling why we were tough as old boots against the big teams but could not punish the weak ones. This year we have got 10 from 5 games against bottom half teams but several thrashings from the big teams. Same manager, and by last winter Hughton was well into his stride getting clean sheets, which most certainly was not a Paul Lambert legacy. There are the reasons I do not by the hyper-criticism of CH going by right now. There has got to be more to it.

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    Pierre

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • After the Man City drubbing I called for the board to have the courage to go for a young up and coming manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer currently working in his native Norway. What are they waiting for now, the orchestra to start playing as the Titanic slips beneath the waves? Chris Hughton is a lovely man but he's demonstrably not the man Norwich need to survive. I have a horrible feeling the board will wait and wait until it's too late and then bring in another has been from the constantly turning carousel of failures that are touted every time a vacancy occurs. Go on Delia and Co. Surprise us please. As a Suffolk based Canary for over 60 years I can't take much more of this.

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    David Mitchell

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Don't worry Stew....I'm still here! Afterall someone has got to add some balance to your typically inane comments. Don't know whats worse, being outdone so easily by the talents of one individual (Suarez) or the talents of a complete team (Man City). Probably the former given that we, Norwich City, with last seasons results in mind, should be more aware of that gerbils talents than any other team in this division. However, he was afforded more space than a planet to conduct what can only be described as an exhibition of his skills. I've kept faith in CH, although admittedly (and you'll no-doubt be overjoyed to hear this Stew) my patience is beginning to wear a little thin. What happended last night was clearly unacceptable. I won't pretend to know whats going wrong, but going by CH's obvious anger last night, one does suspect that certain plans are not being executed on the pitch. Nows the time for any worthy contender for the Captains armband to make himself seen and heard.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • My spelling is as good as CH tactics, of Course i meant to spell it Malky Mackay

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    Canaries007

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I am really starting to think it is the board that have lost the plot, allowing CH and co to continue. Maybe they think we will muddle through another season and be safe to keep the EPL revenue stream coming in - maybe just money is their goal? After all - we have had one good manager out of the last 4 - was that just luck on their part. Seen it all before in industry - accolades for the board, when really they lucked out to be in the right place at the right time, when really they had little or no influence. Apart from Lambert: Hughton, Gunn, Roeder is not an enviable list of managers.Come on NCFC board - prove me wrong!!

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    MichiganCanary

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • For pity sake Delia - get rid of him. If you leave it another week it will be too late to catch up. I was an ardent CH fan at the beginning but he is eroding confidence in the fans - think what he is doing to the team. Get someone young with spirit. And you CH - do the decent thing, and walk

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    Jim

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Lol, same old same old !! why do people expect a miracle every game, only on an odd occasion will there be a win, but nothing is going to change after 90 mins on the pitch.. the best place is the Championship, you only have to look at Rangers in the Scottish league one they have won every game, scored every game and only let a few goals in.. but if they were in a higher league they wouldn;t do so well.

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    Footyboy16

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • All the so called fans on here wanting to be in the Championship. What a nonsense!! Look at the 6 clubs relegated since we came up. Wolves went down another division, Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn are miles off the play off places, Reading are 5th and QPR are 2nd (and who wants to be like QPR?!!). All have seen crowds disappear, Sky money will be way lower and their best players have been sold. It is a very tough league with many similar teams and there is no guarantee of success. Get behind your team and let's stay in the prem. BTW if you give world class players too much respect you will get spanked!! Remember Spurs lost by 6 at Man City

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    Bedford Canary

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The way we set up against Liverpool last night was irresponsible and naive, and we looked like a wide-eyed Championship side. The moments of indecision appeared when players weren't sure whether to go forward or not. I think the players are good enough, and apart from some fear of Suarez, I wouldn't name anyone who had a particularly bad game individually. But collectively we were disjointed and looked like we didn't have a plan. That lays the responsibility firmly with Hughton. I really like the guy, and wish he had the tactical vision and leadership we need. But sadly he doesn't. I think he can do well (and has done well) in the Championship, but imo he just doesn't have the nouse for the PL.

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    MikelSA

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Couldn't work out why my post wasn't going through. All down to scra*ps without the *. Oh my oh my.

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    Lobbo

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Oh no we're being targeted by an Ipswich fan! Help help, they might try and drag us down to the murky depths of Championship mediocrity! Go back to the trench of a town you nest in!

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • "We're a proud city with great heritage and we deserve to be here" - Couldn't have said it any better myself. Going back to my point though - £25 million is a sure fire sign that there's ambition there, just got to unlock it. Look at Hull City Tigers: Scourge of the North. C'mon NCFC I still believe in you! Maybe I should be drafted in to a do a half time team talk?

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Having just watched Sunderland play Chelsea. Their are having a bad season but they played some good football and worked,chased and put their heart into the game. City players, not one worthy of a place in a premier ship side, float around like ballet dancers. They seem to be unable to carry out the basics of closing down the opposition and tackling. Championship looms. Any new manager would have a hell of a job turning this bunch into a fighting unit. Supporters deserve much better. Mr Phelan look very much as though he is off to Wigan. Missed the boat there.

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    norman hall

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Other managers have been given the boot for far less than this and yet we're supposed to just accept these consistently ridiculous scorelines every weekend? 20+ million down the drain because Hughton only knows how to spend, not how to utilise those he brings in with the vast cash he had available.

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    Powers1902

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • God only knows what this clown of a manager is saying to de motivate our players before games against better opposition . We have seen this happen before when the manager loses the dressing room, I wonder if this guy has had the backing of the dressing room.

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    Melvyn Parkerson

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Of course, none of us should have expected anything at Anfield, especially when the team is set up defensively as usual. For a team that is set up to play in that way it is UNACCEPTABLE to ship so many goals. Look, we know we are useless defensively so why not accept that and have a go? That will never happen under this manager, so he has to go. Results against poor sides like West Ham and Crystal Palace are merely papering over the cracks. We still have to get another 24 points from 20 games as the last four don't really count. Under Hughton that task is IMPOSSIBLE.

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    jigs69

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Dear Mr McNally. I kindly ask you to rewrite your mission statement. Currently - NCFC has a duty to please all home fans (when we play away from home) and chose such home games that we feel we can win by 1 goal, thus ensuring Premier League safety by 1 place. We also reserve the right to attack, periodically. Also to ensure we achieve the largest minus figure in the GA column, year on year growth. Good luck in enticing the next wave of youth fans to watch NCFC with that sales pitch! Annoyed, frustrated of Manchester, watching us sink so far that we are happy to scrape past equal teams at home and expected to be happy with that! I'm sorry - The Management team (lol) are not giving us or the board what is needed. Mackay Robins Ole ......welcome

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    kpg24uk

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • We still have the capacity to stabilise this season , but it all rests on CH and his staff being shown the door . We are a rightly proud group fans , our loyalty to our club is proven by the numbers that turn out home and away every week , we deserve better , no we demand better . I don't expect us to challenge for titles , or even for European football , I simply want a manager that will fight our corner , one that sends a side out with the will and desire to compete . CH is a very decent man but he is nowhere near what we need as a manager , I'll re-iterate " WE DESERVE BETTER & WE DEMAND BETTER " .

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    mjc75

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Mattias333, thats so how it is, no ambition to go an attack and give teams a problem.

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    Bygravey

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • We have had a poor defence now for some time yet we still keep talking about it, and making excuses, if we are not very carefull we shall be in the championship saying what we should have done. I am not for sacking anyone yet, but things have to improve very fast now. just about every away game we complain about the same thing. it really is getting tiresome.

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    vmarshall

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Pretty bored of seeing stupid results against the bloated 'big clubs'. Yes Suarez is a world class player (I too am bored of reading this formulaic sentence) but that's no excuse for a pre-half time drubbing. Is NCFC going to be reliant on other cr@pper doing badly so we don't get relegated. This had gotten embarrassing. That £20 million spent could have been invested back into Norwich, what about a nice regeneration of Anglia Square? Not wasted on players that don't know their ar5e from their elbow to quote a fine Norfolk saying. It's easy to point the finger at Hughton but they're all to blame. What happened to the Norwich that beat WBA and Man City at the end of last season... Or was that just luck? Hughton's a wet lettuce sure, but who'll replace him now? So many questions and so few answers. But one thing I'm sure of, I feel sorry for the away fans. Like really sorry, imagine being anywhere north just to watch your team get smashed. Oh well screw Liverpool they won't win anything this year anyway. At least we're guaranteed failure.

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    morgan hewitt

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • I fear that for whatever reasons, if Hughton is given more time, it will simply take us further down the slippery slope to the Championship. We are now well into the season, yet there are no signs that we are anything but worse than before. If the Board feel they need to stand by him out of loyalty, they are taking a massive gamble. I know Man U stuck by Ferguson in the early days and he came good. But the club clearly saw in him a good man manager, motivator and tactician. How many of those assets can we see here?

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    malaga flier

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • I think it's very easy to sit here and criticise from the comforts of our respective computers, there's always outside factors to consider, but the big CH isn't really working for City. Look how turgid the latter half of last season was, we ended up relying on other teams to do badly and then pulled out two (probably) lucky results. So I think City should have reconsidered CH's mild mannered temperament then. We need some vitriol, we need to start playing two strikers up front and we need to start getting posi. Imagine being a player reading this before a game and thinking to themselves "oh my, the fans think we're rubbish, I guess they're right, no point playing with any vigor then." We may lose on Sat, but it depends on the performance, if its as lacklustre as it has been then ultimately something needs to be addressed before or during the Xmas period.

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Circus must end now,get Phelan before wigan ! management must go,if not McNally isnt doing his job !

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    nelly

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The thing is why should we have to walk that tight rope gpl. Thats asking an awful lot when in reality we have players capable of achieving soooooooooo much more under the right management. Its the lil old norwich rubbish again, shrugging our shoulders accepting (lets be honest) even less than average.

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    Mattias333

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • I don't know why everyone seems so keen on returning to the championship - what's wrong with a bit of vigour and actually taking it to the 'big clubs' like when City were first promoted. I always want to see Norwich do well. So if they're relegated to the Championship what then? Do a Wigan and slip to mid-table and be jeered at by Leeds fans for stealing all their players. No thanks. Premier League all the way, it'd be nice to represent a perpetual thorn in the sides of Tottenham, Chelsea et al. It's not just about the team it's about the city too , it's something I'm quite proud of. I don't see what a defeatist attitude is going to promote - the same thing we 're seeing represented on the pitch I suppose. Norwich have it in them and they can perform but currently this is not what we're seeing owing to a mismatched manager and a great bunch of players. I'm hoping that 'the board' and it's members looks into it being 2014 and decides that progression is needed and chooses someone young and upcoming like David said. Surely they pay attention to the beleaguered fans social media rantings?! £25 million is a lot for a relatively smaller club to spend if their only ambition is to return to the championship tail firmly tucked between their legs...

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    morgan hewitt

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Exactly. Not saying I know who the right appointment would be, thats not my job luckily. But get the right guy and we could really continue to push on and develope our great club. Under the current management I can tell you right now how the WBA game will go. We will ship atleast 2 or 3 very poor goals more down to our own inability to defend within a system thats designed heavily around DEFENDING (most likely)....or we will get incredibly lucky and WBA will have a very off day and we will set up very negative and scrape a draw out of it (at best) thanx to WBA not playing well rather than us playing well. In reality that is the facts here. Anything more is just good natured optimism. Like always ill still be there every game singing my heart out, getting behind the boys but ive had it with the current management and direction were heading.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

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