As Ricky van Wolfswinkel gets set to sign for Saint Etienne, is he the worst Norwich City signing of all time?

Ricky van Wolfswinkel celebrates scoring Norwich City's second goal during a 2-2 draw with Everton at Carrow Road on the first day of last season - which turned out to be the only goal the Dutchman would score all season. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd Ricky van Wolfswinkel celebrates scoring Norwich City's second goal during a 2-2 draw with Everton at Carrow Road on the first day of last season - which turned out to be the only goal the Dutchman would score all season. Picture by Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd

Steve Downes
Monday, August 4, 2014
5:07 PM

His arrival for £8.5m from Sporting Lisbon was greeted with huge excitement.

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But after scoring on his debut against Everton, Ricky van Wolfswinkel’s goals dried up and his form faltered.

Now he is set to secure a season-long loan at Saint Etienne - with a view to a cut-price £4.75m permanent move at the end of the season.

Some fans feel he was ill-used and out of luck at Norwich City, and would have come good, given better service.

Others are convinced that he was simply a poor signing by former City boss Chris Hughton, and the Canaries are right to try to cut their losses.

We’d like to know your views. Was he unlucky? Or was he a waste of money?

Please add your comments below - including your suggestions for Norwich’s worst signing ever.

We’ve given a few ideas to get you thinking.

■ Drazen Muzinic

■ Darren Beckford

■ Dean Coney

■ Mike Sheron

■ Michael Theoklitos

■ Raymond de Waard

■ Owain Tudur Jones

■ Steve Walsh

■ Matthieu Louis-Jean

■ Thomas Helveg.

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159 comments

  • Glenn Roader worst signing for me!! RvW IS a good player , just didnt happen for us . Thomas Helveg was a good player , just didnt happen for us { most of the time}, Darren Beckford , disappointing, Drazen Muzinic Awful . Tony Cottee absolute joke for such a brilliant professional . Steve Walsh was a true pro, obvs something going on with him at the time. R v W will have 20 this year then we will all want him back wont we !!

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    marcohendy

    Sunday, August 10, 2014

  • @Dicky van D - through injury -Neil Emblen, David Jones, Jonjo O'Neill?

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    Les Lee

    Saturday, August 9, 2014

  • On a similar vain to a lot of posts on this thread all the reader comments on another thread have been removed several hours after they first appeared. Watch out Archie has the Tippex bottle in his hands.

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    PDH

    Friday, August 8, 2014

  • If the question is who is the worst NCFC signing, rather than player, then surely it has to be Butterfield? Anyone remember other players that we signed and never played?

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    Dicky Van Donkeywinkel

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • TGWS "Away with him, away with him! he speaks Latin"(Shakespeare). Don't let it get to you.

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Lincs, Suus 'questus a paulo biblicus ad me omnes,

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    ToxicGasWarningSystem

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Ok, original post gone through now and appearing before all the ones bemoaning delay. Had some fun while waiting. Looks like I'm destined to be last post on this board. Most posts on this board. Most unread posts on this board.

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • De profundis clamavi adte, Domine; Domine, exaudi vocem meam.

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • I mean, the comment I made on Steve Downes article was submitted twice, and got the no need to resubmit treatment twice. This third meaningless submission, I know, will appear. see. Why?

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • How do they know, in an instant, which post is a valid comment, thus blocked, and which one says nothing, and goes through?

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • I have been thanked for my comment, which may be delayed and I do not need to resubmit. This, of course, will go through.

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Bit late chipping in on this one - just arrived back from north east (if you want pessimism about the season ahead go to Middlesborough). No, RVW is not worst player ever and if I find time will trawl through my 1960's programmes and come up with numerous alternatives. As for journalistic standards, Steve Downes has written a balanced article which nowhere suggests RVW is our worst ever player, it is the headline and poll that is in poor taste. Journalism and poor taste? Never saw that coming?

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Bit late chipping in on this one - just arrived back from north east (if you want pessimism about the season ahead go to Middlesborough). No, RVW is not worst player ever and if I find time will trawl through my 1960's programmes and come up with numerous alternatives. As for journalistic standards, Steve Downes has written a balanced article which nowhere suggests RVW is our worst ever player, it is the headline and poll that is in poor taste. Journalism and poor taste? Never saw that coming?

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    Lincs Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Shame on you EDP.....cheap and irresponsible article. Oh and by the way......Mattias Jonson.

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    beeston bump

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • I was slow to accept Hughton was hopeless, TK. I thought he was a "tortoise vs hare" person, that he would get there eventually. By the time WBA threw us a lifebelt, I realised I was wrong. The Board took another year, by which time WBA had sunk our boat.

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • To be fair to Steve Downes I don't think he said RVW was worst player to play for us and he is a long way from that. Was it a bad bit of business? If we offload him after 1 year and lose a lot of money then yes but is that the fault of the player? Interesting point by Mattias333 about Steve Walsh and what else is going on in a player's life and how it affects form. I am more concerned about players we did not purchase or who we sold rather than who we did buy. More costly mistakes in that area really.

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    JohnnyH

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Perhaps this question should be rephrased, "Did Hughton make the worst signing ever". Neither RVW or Hooper were ever going to suit the style of play that the manager chose to use. Like many fans, at first I thought Hughton would be a good manager but realised within the first couple of months that he was not the right fit for our club, but it took the management nearly two years to come to the same decision, then it was already too late. I agree with most fans on here that it is irresponsible to be running RVW down when we are trying to recoup some of our outlay. Yes we spent big because we were in the silly money league, that's what all clubs in the Premiership do, our management simply got it wrong but at least we are still debt free so lets rejoice in that rather than playing the blame game.

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    TrevorKeith

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Essex Yellow you are right. RvW was a goal scorer but he came into a team which didn't play his game and was never likely to achieve. He will score goals again for sure but not us sadly. As for Ken Foggo his name came up at a 6 man Canary session in North Cyprus last night as one of the best wingers ever for Norwich!

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    Bogaz John

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • LYB, I have not participated in that tawdry poll, but I`m glad to hear that most fans have not been goaded into a Winkel-bashing festival. `If there is hope, it lies in the proles`... Let Downes organize a poll on "Norwich City`s worst Director of all time".

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • I thought it was a pretty decent premise for a poll personally, and nice to see that the majority are on his side.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • I wonder if our collective opinion counts? How do you get rid of that pestilential pollpay advert?? Perhaps they could organize a Poll to see what we think of gutter journalism - and pay us for participating. Or, preferably, just go away!

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    Mad Brewer

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • 5 days before the start of a defining season for Norwich City and this article is the best that the PinkUn can offer? Any chance of some news? An interview with someone from the Club outlining the approach to the start of the Championship season? No, just cheap shots from a cheap hack!

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    kenfoggo

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Steve Downes, is he the cheapest journalist employed by Archant of all time?

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    kenfoggo

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • In the clear cool light of a Coltishall Tuesday morning, this article remains garbage and I hope, in the forlorn sense, that RvW is not aware of it. He is still OUR player Mr Downes - don't you get it?

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    el dingo

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Agree with all the comments on this being the worst article of all time on Norwich City. I would hope RVW does well in France and then he will no doubt look to stay there and not have to tolerate journalism of such degrading depths. Goldie I like the comments on how he would view the number of posts! I would add at least RVW had the backbone not to hide during all the problems of last season and despite negativity from some quarter would stand up to be counted - I would wish Steve Downes would actually come on here and defend this piece of journalism but I guess its like us Scots wishing to win the World Cup - not a chance. OTBC

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    Jakarta (ex-Singapore) Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Probably the unluckiest player ever to play for NCFC may be appropriate. However, what about a Pulitzer Prize for Steve Downes for this truly amazing journalism ?

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    Dubai Canary

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • Err, stupid article in my book, especially while a player mentioned is still contracted to the club. Fine, if in 20 years you look back at history, but to have a cheep shot at a current player is a hit our of order IMHO. That said, I would like to know why Simon Tracey has been omitted from this list?! Other players from the past who surely would deem having an entry would include Matthew Rush, Chris Brown, Paul Peschsolido, Patrick Boyle, Peter Thorne, Des Hamilton, Kevin Scott..... I will quite there!

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    Adams is God

    Tuesday, August 5, 2014

  • We do not know if he's the worst NC signing of all time because we haven't had all time.

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    Cecil

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • This must be the biggest postbag I have ever seen outside of the playing season so the journo will think he is doing good.

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    goldie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I'm interested what's taking so long announcing a loan. Medical's done, Norwich is agreeable. Longer it drags on the more I think Ricky is torn over this.

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    LittleYellowBirdie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • not sure I quite your point, Steeley Dan. If I knew who you are referring to then I would know if I am him. But then you seem to be concealing who you are! A good journalist refuses to reveal his sources. A raelly poor one refuses to reveal his identity. But then you are surely not one of them

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    lindsay McNeile

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Hoots ruined RVW so it's very unfair to judge him on last season's performances . He would no doubt be a better player under Adams and would have scored goals with the right service . Hoots was the reason we were relegated no doubt about that and the guy should never ever be employed by another club.

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    Essex yellow

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Get real people. Do you really think Archant are going to remove an article because a handful of you have got all indignant and started hammering away at your little keyboards. This is actually a good piece of journalism because it has engendered debate and opinion. For the record my opinion is that RvW has turned out to be a terrible signing taking into account his price, his wages, his chance conversion rate (he had way more than three chances) his touch, his strength, his distribution and, crucially, his inability to create chances for himself - which good strikers will do even when service is inadequate. Anyway this is just my opinion but I'm prepared to be lynched for daring to express it.

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    SplatTheCat

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Some interesting names on the list, and I remember most of them. However, I also remember the libel and slander laws, so be very careful what you say! We can't just slag off players who, er, maybe had more off days than others. Imagine somebody did that about your work? Sorry, I'll take my serious hat off now.

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    Les Lee

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Ha, i criticised this article and stuck up for RVW. My posting was there earlier, now deleted. What does THAT say about Archant? They can criticise RVW but you cannot criticise Archant !!

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    CanaryWest

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • to reiterate .......... bob.crawley@archant.co.uk is the chap to complain to guys ........

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • As Steve Downes writes an article about a contracted NCFC player, I ask is he the worst Archie hack of all time?

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    Ded Sterile

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Adams bangs on about attacking fast football with wide men and what does he do discard a centre forward who would thrive on that game instead we are left with an overweight Hooper who having seen him on Friday night couldn't run for a bus quite remarkable, we are going backwards again.

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    pliff

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Not a fan of the negativity of this article, Ricky is still a Norwich player and could come back and do well for us (maybe). Worst Norwich player has to be Michael Theoklitos. Position: Goalkeeper Games played: 1 Goals conceded: 7

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    skepticCanary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • So annoyed archant so called journalist could write such an article,yes RvW had a terrible season but he`s still a City player ,talk about stabbing your own in the back .. incredible.

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    ajpreston

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • What a negative article, what does this poll possibly achieve? RVW is still a NCFC player and might come back one day.

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    Jimbo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • This is a bit of a harsh headline. Wolfy didn't have a chance to shine and i doubt ever will under Norwich at least. He would probably have scored 10-15 goals this season if given game time, however we have strikers which should be pushing 20+. I believe his time was up, but i just don't think its professional to bad mouth a player like that. Why did our manager purchase RVW without the players to support him? Its a classic failure of the tactician to truly know his game. From the start of Hughtons first season i could see the rot setting in. We just didn't have the same work ethic as we had under PL. Grant Holt was still with us in CH's 1st season and was the reason we stayed up. Without Holt, we really didn't stand a chance this year. We had 2 strikers in RVW and Hooper who require a lot of help and service. Elmander was brought in to replace Holt's ability to hold up the ball, but was poor throughout the season, and lacked everything that made GH our best striker for years. How much did we sell GH for? £2-3 million...terrible piece of business! So in summary, Hughton was the reason for our problems last year. He just didnt understand the tactical game, and tried to assemble a team of good players. Neil Adams seems to know his stuff. Will be interesting to see how he handles things when they are not going his way, but i am quietly confident that he will come up trumps. And back to the point...leave RVW alone, he was a victim of football neglect. He will play some good football in the next few years, i am sure :)

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    James Dunthorne

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Perhaps RVW could legitimately ask "was Chris Houghton's Norwich the worst set up he could have signed for?"

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    Pondlife

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I doubt he's the worst player. But the question asked is: is he the worst signing? If you bear in mind that CH spent record money on a player that feeds on balls slipped through the defence for a striker to run on to, and then played him up front for wrong footed wingers to cross poor balls into, then yes, he's probably the worst signing.

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    Juggmeister

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • The fair question is," Was RvW the worst performing player under the Worst Manager in City's history", the answer to that is YES.

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    OLDYELLA

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • RvW, isn´t he still a City player? Lets stop talk about him like he plays for the traktorboys.. OTBC!

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    Norwegianwoodpecker

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Fair play to everybody who objected to this rubbish article.

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • As an aside, regarding Larson's comment. He might be thinking that Lindsay McNeille is Norfolk John or John L Norton in disguise ? One or two will understand this.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Please remove this dross. RvW is obiously a talented footballer and will score for fun as soon as his confidence returns. Shame it wont be in a green and yellow jersey. Worst signing? Do me a favour!!

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    Bombdoors

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I suspect the usual suspects Brewer...

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • ... anf if Cotmoon needs to rest his case, he should find a porter.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • So you DO work for Archant! OK truce. I really cannot be bothered - just want the season to be a good'un. OTBC.

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • el dingo is very insightful. Cotmoon efforts often precede an epidemic of abuse. Pure coincidence, of course.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • El dingo, mate, I rest my case.

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    Canary on the moon

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Partly Ricky is a victim of all the media hype,orchestrated by the club and with the consent of the player via his ever-available agent,which had him promote publications,shirts and football boots,as though the man with the record signing tag was the next thing since the second coming.In this way,he was set up to fail with his own consent.I doubt he'll be making the same mistake again.

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    Peter Watson

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • A bit harsh on Thomas Helveg to be in the list. You do not play at the level he played at by being a bad player. At the time he was too good for us, putting balls in spaces where no one had the knowledge to exploit them. I also think RVW had very good movement but was not serviced very well.

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    smalltownboy

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • For the money he cost, yes he is, although I remember Davy Robb missing 7 golden chances in one match - but he only cost £10,000 which wasn't a lot of money even then.

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    bogbog

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • We live in a country with the right to express an opinion..the journalist is expressing his. I remember last summer, we were being touted as possible Europa league (god forbid) candidates. But, I'm sure all serious fans knew that if we continued to play the same negative football we played in 1213 we had no chance. We knew the run in we had last season and knew the writing was on the wall all season. It's not Ricky's fault and it's not Hoops ..our approach to playing football last season was awful. Ricky will have the last laugh..he'll score goals for fun in France then seal a permanent deal at the knockdown price of £4.75m. I'm assuming we don't have the right to refuse the deal if he's a massive success?

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    Irish canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Now that he effectiveness of online journalism is judged by volume of reads, comments and page clicks, it is inevitable that deliberately controversial headlines and article content will appear, as it has elsewhere. However, this poorly-timed and inappropriate article should never have been uploaded. Only RVW's performance next season will determine whether he has totally lost his goal-scoring instinct or not. What we'll never know is whether that and his goal drought last season was his fault or an inevitable result of trying to faithfully serve under Hughton's coaching regime. I think it was probably the latter, but only next season will tell.

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    Robin Hood

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Just want to add to the comments that this article is in such bad taste against RVW. Yes he did only score one goal, but he is not our worst signing. He was injured for a third of the season, he had to play in a team that was SO negative. He was hardly given the service to have a chance of scoring. I blame CH for the way we played. I wished RVW would have stayed for this season and I'm sure he would have scored plenty of goals. Good Luck RVW for this season

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    mmaark

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Let's try: twit. Here goes............

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Maybe mate but you're still a tw*t. And I bet you work for Archant.

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    el dingo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Dingo, my issues with you concern your criticism of the quality of the writing in other articles - ironic given that your post on here aims an obscenity in my direction for posting my own views. I am in complete agreement with most posters (including you) about the content and insulting tone of this post as you will see if you check my post about 12 before yours.

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    Canary on the moon

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • At the end of Iwans 1st season,people we calling for his head! Fat n lazy etc was the most common,but during the pre season of the following year,a new lean mean machine appeared and with bellers, they started to score for fun

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    alan clark

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • And let's not forget Tony cottee!

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    Canary fett

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I totally agree that Rvw was poorly treated last season, why on earth didn't we ever just pair him and hoops for a long period?? Hooper is not blame free for me as he came with a prolific record but missed quite a few chances himself, I hope Rvw goes away and comes good, and I for one would welcome a confident Ricky back

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    Canary fett

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Our worst player was "Michael Theoklitos" and thank god we didnt keep him between the sticks otherwise we would be in the conference now.With Van Sheepish we shouldnt blame the player we should look at the manager who knocked all the stuffing out off every city player last season and even got the fans asking the same question are we good enough,after CH it took a while for players and fans alike to get their pride back and Van Sheepish must have wondered what he had come to at Carrow Rd.I think he could get his confidence back if he goes on loan and then come back and be the next Van Persie in the future. OTBC

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    canarykid

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I am truly saddened by the fact that my mentor, Steely Dan, wishes our local press to aspire to the lowest level. Where is Barking Wise? Help - we need you!!

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • ... and who is Steve Downes? Who is he related to? el dingo has it absolutely right.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • NMTD - some may not like the article (too touchy as you put it) but to me its part of football. These discussions are had all the time. 'Is Fellaini Man Utd's worst signing ever ?' was on the radio ,only a few days ago.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Blocked by Archant. Good. Sums them up. Intellectual c0nstipation. Downes is taking the hit for gutter-level editorial control. Covering the Protected Denizen...

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • by far not the worst, one of our worst ever managers made it mission impossible for him and a team that should have finished higher than mid table, steve Downs on the other hand has written one of the worst things I have read in years....idiot

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    andy cousins

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I repeat: prurient, cruel and Hughton. Jim Blair was in one of City`s two `70s League Cup finals. His main skill was falling over if the ball came his way. Hughton is the worst signing ever. (Repeat for the Epictetus Folk). As for double standards in "punters versus journos" - how, when the journos have no standards at all? Sadly, I feel my erstwhile Hero, Steely Dan, has adopted a holistic wholly holier than you stance. The article is a journalistic obscenity. IMHO. Of course. Bring back Barking Wise.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Steve Downes needs to look at himself and apply for a job at Portaloo Road. Awful.

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    Johnty

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • No Norwich City are the worst possible club he could have signed for any other club he would have scored a lot more goals as would have played to his strengths.Neil Adams has not got the football brain to see this do he would have been given a chance another C H or B G in the making.

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    El tel

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • The point is Steely Dan, RvW is still on the books at NCFC .......... holier than thou .......... have a word with your moral setting, it's set on 'too touchy'

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Many posters adopting the holier than thou stance today. I think its a legitimate article and question. One or two are almost suggesting that Rip was a success or would have been had it not been for everybody else.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • It seems my comments earlier have been backed by most on here. Shocking article. Lets hope Lewis Grabban and Kyle Lafferty hit the ground running if not they may get slated as well by this idiot.

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    Carts

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • RvW is certainly the most expensive on a long list of signings down the decades , ALL of whom were touted as the new Eusebio by the local media , but who turned out to be mediocre journeyman footballers who failed to live up to the ramped-up expectations we the fans were encouraged to have . And now the same organisation that trumpeted his talent in the first place is posting a poll asking if he is the worst bargain ever ? Well YOU sport-writers puffed him up there , we fans didn't . I'd like to see RvW given a fresh chance here , 10 or 12 games with an hour or so on field in each , to see if he can make good - if not then there is nothing to be done but shoot him out the door .

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    Bring on Foggo

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • thanks for that link nevermindthedanger

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • As Ricky van Wolfswinkel gets set to sign for Saint Etienne.......... is this the most negative piece of journalism ever? Shocking.

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    Bedford Canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • bob.crawley@archant.co.uk is the chap to complain to guys .........

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I don't think its Steve Downes fault. He's just being payed out of position!!

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    frankief

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • most of City's worst signings have been made by the board. managers Hughton , Roeder, Hamilton to name but 3

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Oh come on Archie lets have apoll about the worst sports writer you have . Got the cojones for it.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • five hours after the article appeared, does Steve Downes still have a job.He is as has been suggested the worst sports journo employed by archunt and on RVW a good player stuffed by a manager's tactics. Worst player I saw in yellow and green Drazen Musinic, closely followed by Raymond De Waard. Now must agree with Mathias333 , because I too was a Hughton outer , after 6 months of having him, so no happy clapper me,but RVW is one of the best players this club has signed and the disaster of last season is not down to RVW on his own as some seem to think.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I very very rarely comment as there are lots of morons who post lots of crip if you give your opinion!. I think he will be our worst signing if we let him go to St Etienne. He is a very talented player who lost his confidence, has too much pressure when he returned, and would be a great city player if he decided to stay.

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    Allan Boucher

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • The gutter has gotten even lower into the ground. I wonder if the sharp decline in sales has anything to do with the attempt to spice up the stories. At least the controversial one from last week has disappeared off the website. Now they need to do the same with this one. We want news not personal opinion and offence.

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    PDH

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I'm going to give this site a rest for a few days. Despite a clear majority of posters reacting with disgust and contempt at this article it's still here. Only way for me to react is a boycott. Vital Norwich has more up to date info and discussion anyway.

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    PaulWho

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Pathetic article. Please remove it. Some of those players actually weren't that bad including RVW who under a different manager may have scored goals. He's also still our player and this is not good preparation for Sunday. Have you got nothing else to report on?

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    Liverpool canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • looks like kangaroo and Trevor will still read youe articles when you start you job at 'Jackie' Mr Downes. Right i'm off to enjoy some righteous self indignation....I think!?

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    frankief

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • RVW wins this contest hand down! 8.5 million, 1 goal and strangely unwaivering fans support. Others have been very poor for NCFC, but they were usually free transfers or players coming towards the end of their career. Considering the amount of games he played he is not only the worst signing in Norwich City's history but also Premier League history!!!

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    MD1982

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Disgraceful article. Trying to drum up some interest when nothing else happening and under-mining any confidence RVW. Good players don't become bad overnight (eg Iwan Roberts in his early time at City) and good luck to RVW in France. Hope he proves everyone wrong.

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    Rosie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • ".....Please remove this offensive article as soon as possible. It is a journalistic scandal.....". Yes , well it's got to be up there with the Milly Dowler phone hacking.

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    LARSON.E. WHIPSNADE

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • @Trevor Sadd, I'd disagree that this article is comparable with comments made by readers to earlier articles, the EDP has a journalistic responsibility to maintain standards if it wants to retain credibility.

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    LR Series 2A

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Amazed to see the self-righteous indignation of some posters here. How much has he cost us in his transfer fee, agent's fee and salary? £10 million+? And he turned out to be an embarrassing flop. No one forced him to come here and now he's scurrying off to France because he considers the Championship beneath him. When we needed quality against Fulham he gave us that embarrassing pass to the invisible man. Yes, he's the biggest flop in our history. Good riddance!

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    Kangaroo Court

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • While I cant say I am comfortable with the way this article has been allowed to take such prominence and has resulted in a journalist being lambasted for his effort to generate debate,I do think that some of us should take a backward step and take into account that on a daily basis posters to the EDP are voicing the same kind of concerns.During the last season in the PL I seem to recall Wes,Snoddy and Elmander receiving some very severe press from supporters.The fact that it is a journalist who has raised the subject this time in an article seems to have got everyones attention.Perhaps not double standards but pretty close I think.

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    Trevor Sadd

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • As a true blooded football supporter I disaccociate myself from this boorish article.This is not the way we do things. By all means have a beer fuelled discussion in private but to slag off in public a genuinly nice guy and a trier for whom things just did not work out is simply moronic. We hwve all with the exception of sports journalists moved on a bit.

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    guella

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Please remove this offensive article as soon as possible. It is a journalistic scandal

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    lindsay McNeile

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Inappropriate and offensive, at least while Ricky is still here. Time for The Pinkun to SUPPORT the club not knock it.

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    Huge Hairy Canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • John Hartson for me without a doubt. Even JH himself admits his signing was a mistake. Another blunder from good old Roeder. Now, the next question you want to ask, Archant is, is Hughton the worst manager ever to manage NCFC? My response will be - not as long as Roeder was allowed to walk the path.

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    Ghana Dom

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • There are enough posts on here to let Steve Downes know that his pathetic attempt to ingratiate himself with the small minority of nasty posters on here was very badly misjudged. RVW was unlucky (a) that he cost so much (b) that the club overhyped him and (c) that CH didn't play to his strengths. To say that he should have knuckled down and played his way into the team ignores the fact that NA is doing what the board tell him by forcing him out. I wish him well in the future and won't be surprised if we regret letting him go on the cheap.

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    Canary on the moon

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I usually don't agree with those who slate the journalism on this site, but this article is absolutely horrendous! What a massive amount of disrespect for a player who is still a member of the Norwich team! To compare RVW with Theoklitos is absolutely ridiculous and an insult to the lad, who has been nothing but a complete professional, despite clearly struggling with the weight of expectation on him....not helped by Archamt's own insistence of labelling him as "Norwich's record signing" at least twice on every article they write about him. I see you can complain about individual comments....where's the link for us to report this article?

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    CanaryDan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • It is clear to see the decent personalities of Canary fans here; this journalism is so misplaced. If this is not insult enough for one individual, the poll has given us 10 others to chose from. Unbelievable. Incensed; keep flitting back to this page and it's still here! Please take this down. All the Best RvW in France.

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    McCanary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Sorry, Steve but your questionpoll should have been kept private. Far too complex an issue to put in such simplistic terms, and perhaps a little offensive.

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    alec

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Poor, poor article. Agree Ricky was unlucky last season. I would have liked and respected Ricky if he had stayed to prove his worth. If he leaves then personally I wouldn't want him back when the going is good in the PL. If you play for NCFC then play for us where ever we are, you play for NCFC not the premier league.

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    Paul Smith

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Sorry Mr. Downes, your article is in bad taste and totally out of order. You are talking about real people here. Perhaps we should have a poll about the worst journalists….

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    Fylde Canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Disgraceful article. Remove it. Apologise to RVW. Remove the editor who allowed it. Then let's us vote on Downes keeping his job

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    Rodders

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • If I had bothered to use a spellcheck my previous post would have read as follows: ..... Whole heartedly agree that this is the most insipid piece of luck-lustre unimaginative, slow news day journalism I have had the misfortune to read. RVW is a good player, signed under the optimism that a pairing with Gary Hooper might push us on to become a regular feature in the top 10. Unfortunately, he arrived at a time when Chris Hughton just lacked the self-belief to field us in a more attacking stance and instead opted for a "try not to lose" strategy and it backfired in CH, the club and Hooper and RVW. Ricky will flourish in France and make this article look as stupid and churlish as it is. Shame on Archant for allowing this to go to air.

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    Lucioperca

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Whole heartedly agree that this is an insipid piece of luck-lustre unimaginative, slow news day journalism I have had teh misfortune to read. RVW is a good player, signed under teh optimism that a pairing with Gary Hooper would see us push on and becaome a regular feature in teh top 10. Unfortunately, he arrived at a time when Chris Hughton just lacked teh self-belief to field us in a more attacking stance and instead opted for a "try not to lose" strategy and it backfired in CH, the club and Hooper and RVW. Ricky will flourish in France and make this article look ast stupid and churlish as it is. Shame on Archant for allowing this to go to air.

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    Lucioperca

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • You asked for comments below and the majority state how awful and insensitive this article is. You're really speaking for your readership aren't you?

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    rosario!!!

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • This is journalism at it's very worst. Perhaps Archie could dedicate a column and a poll to the worst journalism about NCFC voer the last 20 or so years. Now that would be interesting.

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    ToxicGasWarningSystem

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Pleasantly surprised my previous comment was posted...so thank you for that. Are you reading this Steve Downes and ( are you incidentally paid for this?) your 'employers'? This is important, this is serious, you have people saying they are finished with the 'paper' here and it's totally understandable they feel this way. I used to wait with real excitement to buy the Pink Un after walking back over Carrow Bridge with my Dad on a Saturday teatime. That world has gone. It was though a quality sports paper. Now we have so many positive opportunities to produce great articles online and you are engaging this utter dross.

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    Uckfield Canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • RVW was definitely not our worst signing, that honour goes to Chris Hughton

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    norwichcanary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • worse signing of all time? i agree with saturday.roeder,closly followed by hoots & and charley billington.

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    bluelight

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • This is an absolutely disgraceful and unprofessional bit of journalism. RVW is still a City player and despite not having had the most successful spell to date is a human being and deserves some respect. That me done with the PinkUn.

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    Jon_Notts

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Seems like a few too many apprentice journalists have too much time on their hands! Re-decorate the office, play patience...anything but this dross. please!

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    frankief

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Disgraceful bit of journalism. The lad is still our player! He might even end up coming back. Too early to do this.

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    MancCanary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Norwich will all ways be amongst the also rans ,certain players play certain ways and if not played the way that suits then they fail, I used to watch ted McDougal hang around do nothing and think what a waste of time he was, then suddenly he would zip off and plonk the ball in the back of the net,even world class players fail if not managed correctly or played in the wrong position .

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    trev57

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I side with many here - this article is dreadful and totally unacceptable. If ever RVW had thoughts of coming back after a good season in France, I am sure these are now the furthest from his mind. I would expect a few cold shoulders from the players for you, Mr Downes. Miserable and unfeeling journalism of the first order. Hold your head in shame. Even Messi would have struggled to get 5 goals last season playing to Hughton's negative tactics. I, for one, wish RVW a happy and successful season in France. Bon chance, buddy.

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    Kent Anglian

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I guess my early post re: irresponsible journalism has now had time to hit home .......... yet this piece of garbage is still there for everyone to see .......... OTBC

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • NCFC's worst signing?...Easy! Any signing up to a relationship with Archant. Appalling, confidence undermining polls, poor, sometimes non-existent moderating of posts, banal often inaccurate journalism...the pink un, once a great sports report..now this...makes the metro look like a good read

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    Uckfield Canary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Agree, PaulWho, can't really see any point in this. The way we were set up last year I doubt whether Swarez would have scored. RvW worked hard by all accounts, young lad; this is damaging.

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    McCanary

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Of course he is not the worst signing in terms of ability. In terms of value he is the worst signing by a country mile. As CanaryWest and Brew have commented anything between £8.5 and £10m per goal. Last year Brummie fans were moaning that Zigic had cost them £0.5m per goal. He stuck around for three years pocketing £70k per week. At least Rip hasn't done this to NCFC. He gets the gold, silver to that Swedish winger Jonsen who cost a mill. and bronze to Strihavka. Worst manager definitely Roeder. Saturday Skin is totally correct in his memory. On the day Roeder left I remember the Donkey making the comment 'we had to get him out of the club as quickly as possible'. Who knows what went on behind the scenes.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • OK Archie, have you got the message? Nobody, but NOBODY considers this article to be acceptable journalism. One could be forgiven for assuming that given your penchant for censorship, someone might have intercepted this disgrace and strangled it at birth.

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    Igno Rance

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Far from the worst in my view. Unfortunately for RVW he played under a management team who couldn't work out how to get the best from our strikers. The proof will be in how he performs for Saint Etienne though.

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I would be interested to see if there were stats showing the chances to goals ratio for all the individual players. Hooper seems to have escaped all criticism but I don't imaging his scoring record is much different from RVW based on his chances. Jimmy Hupperby seems like an angry man, doesn't he?

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    PaulWho

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Sorry Jonno, just seen your post!

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    PaulWho

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • It must be great being a journalist, slow day? Let's do a career-assassinating article. I think we should have a vote, is Steve Downes the EDP's worst ever hack?

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    PaulWho

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Two things - I'm no fan of Hughton, but calling him the worst manager of recent history makes me wonder how we define recent. We have only had three since Roeder, who tore the entire team apart, sacked the kit man, destroyed Jamie Cureton and robbed us of a chance to give Hucks a send-off. Hughton was bad, but he was no Roeder. Related to this - where is Matty Pattison? Did nothing but kick people, praised to the hilt by Roeder while he was assasinating the careers of others, a perfect example of Roeder's reign. You may have got this, but in case anyone's wondering: I don't like Glenn Roeder.

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    Saturday Skin

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • This article is disgraceful. Please remove it. Who wrote this? A bullied, attention seeking wannabe journalist? Ricky has more technique than many strikers we've had... He was just a poor signing for the wrong team and tactics.

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    mikeskisandflies

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Lets face it defending was pretty dire last season as well as lack of goals from anywhere on the pitch. I nearly voted Yes untill the attached list joged my memory and also had to take into consideration the rest of the teams performances and his poor service due to the managers team set up.

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    goldie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Nearly voted yes until I saw the list of City failiers, Ricky definately had skills but not strong enough or cunning enough for the Premier League unfortunatelly.

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    goldie

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Spot on Colin. A previous poster claimed that if you basically liked RVW or failed to call him the worst player ever you were a happy clapper and responsible for the club keeping Hughton as long as the club did. Really? How is that even possible for the most basic of minded people to think that. God knows where that leaves me as I refuse to call RVW a bad player for being played in a way that doesn't benefit him or the team but also wanted Hughton out LONG before the brown stuff hit the fan so im certainly no happy clapper. Where does that leave me in Jimmy Hupperby theory of events at NCFC. Am I too blame for NCFC getting Relegated or Not. Cant focus without knowing ;) I'll tell you what, based on some of the logic here for ranting at RVW, Lets play John Ruddy at the tip of the diamond instead of Wes Hoolahan and complain when he provides no assist's.

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    Mattias333

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Strongly agree with Jonno65, this article leaves a nasty taste - a poll on the worst sports journalist employed by Argent would seem only fair .....sauce for the goose and all that.

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    LR Series 2A

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Cant help wondering if this was published in the US if there wouldn't be a litigation in the offing. Seems desperately unfair to me...

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    powelld123

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • It seems I am not alone, good. I request that this article is removed immediately, Steve Downes apologises for lazy journalism and the editor who sanctioned it eats equal humble pie.

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    rosario!!!

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Hmm, it's too early in his Norwich career to be certain. He's not played enough under Adams. He is the most expensive player, but then he never really had much service, yet his attitude towards the end if the season was terrible - despite Adams continually selecting him. He looked at times like a quality player, but then there was the back heel at Fulham! I don't think he'll fit into a championship Norwich side which is clearly geared up to rotating it's forwards. I can't imagine him ever doing what Holt did at Anfield when dropped To the bench. I'm not too sure he's worse than Sheron, although Sherons expectation wasn't too high in the first place. I'm not sure how Victor Segura can stay off that list! I'll never forget his marvellous defending during a friendly with Spurs. Faced with an excellent David Ginola he decided to get tight to him, then sit down on his backside. DG simply went past him and scored, and that was a reflection of the season ahead for him!

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    Dan

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • In terms of price and return, he's obviously the worst signing. But it's an unfair and unnecessary criticism. Under a decent manager he may have been a success. This article forgets that Hughton bought him, then opted to play so negatively he had no ammunition, hardly ever playing him with Hooper and only doing so in the wrong matches, such as away to Everton rather than at home to Cardiff.

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    Colin

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I really hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is the most inappropriate piece of journalism ever! - how low can we stoop? This is a person we're talking about. 'Steve Downes, is he the worst journalist of all time?

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    Jonno65

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Rosario, agreed extremely bad taste as he is still a NCFC player, if I was him certainly wouldn't want to come back. A better poll would be was CH the worst manager Norwich have ever had

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • 90% of the reason we got relegated was blind faith in what clearly was a player with not enough ability and too much expectation. Came from a league where goals come cheap. Seems all the happy clappers we have to thank for CH getting us down when it was obs in Sept he was not upto the task have a new crusade, to support RVW no matter how poor his attitude evidently is or his no shows on the pitch - we where like playing with 10men a lot of the season

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    Jimmy Hupperby

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • What I mean is that he's nowhere near the worst player we've had, i'd probably give that accolade to Theoklitis!

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    Jimmy Smith

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Blackdog. De Waard was a dutch left winger I believe Bryan Hamilton may have signed (nearly as bad as the Hughton and Roeder era's in my opinion). It may not have been Hamilton but was around that era. Signed as well as Fernando Derveld. He literally played about 3 times though before heading back to holland and playing in the lower leagues. Steve Walsh did quite an interesting interview with Rob Butler and Paul McVeigh on radio norfolk last season if anyone has the time to check it out. Was going through some really rough times when joining us and admitted feeling awful for how it turned out.

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    Mattias333

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • He may be a good footballer, but we signed him and put him in a system completely unsuited to his game. Through more the clubs fault than his, he goes down as our worst ever signing for me. We either had very poor scouts, or a poor manager linking our system to RvW. Probably a bit of both. A 5 year old could have told you Ricky was not designed to be a lone striker the way we played.

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    Jimmy Smith

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Matt, I guess we'll differ on Helveg although that match against ManU the team and just about everyone were on fire. One of my all-time favourite matches.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Does anyone else think this article is in bad taste, especially considering he is still a Norwich player and will remain so throughout this season? Not impressed Mr Pinkun

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    rosario!!!

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Pleaase give the guy a break he had to play under the worst manager in City's history whose tactics did nothing to play to RVWs strengths, he should not be judged so harshly on one season

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    Canaryinslovenia

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I think to consider him as one of the worst is very harsh. Anyone who has seen him play will know what a good player he is. Technically probably too good for the rest of the Norwich players. You look at the other top strikers in the premier league, they get umpteen chances each game plus they know they will get chances. At Norwich chances came few and far between and the pressure unfairly built. Imagine going into a game knowing that, at best, you may only get one or two good goal scoring chances. How many chances do Rooney, Suarez, Aguero etc etc get a game? So lets be reasonable hey. As for the worst i would put Helveg up there. For such a marquee signing he was awful.

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    Carts

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • what a nice article - i can imagine being RVW reading this and thinking, 'thanks everyone for your show of Norfolk hospitality!'

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    Morgan's_tight_pants

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Cannot remember Muzinic or de Waard, enlighten me please. Jim Blair I think was a Scottish ball player but surely there cannot be any doubts that Theokilitis has to be well out in front, Steve Walsh I think was a centre half past his sell by date from Leicester who if you didn't blink you would see him move. Think Winkle has to be given the benefit of the doubt as we will never know if it was management or not up to standard,

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    blackdog2

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Hugely irresponsible article IMO. The lads still a NCFC asset .......... typical knee jerk journalism and muppetry talk

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    nevermindthedanger

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • For the money we paid for him, and the consequent high expectations heaped upon him, then sadly Ricky is the worst by a country mile. In terms of technical ability however, then no probably not.

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    nulli secundus

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Take issue with the Helveg mention. For me, Worthy spent a whole season playing a legendary right back in central midfield, then when he actually played him at right back he looked superb (Man Utd at Carrow Road for example). I got a list as long as my arm for poor signings, Jason Jarrett being very high on the list! De Waard as previously mentioned was another shocker! Keith Scott was never a favourite of mine. Any loan player on Glenn Roeder watch could be named! David Strihavka? Simon Whalley? Matthew Rush? Fernando Derveld? Peter Thorne (another 1 goal striker lets rant!). In fairness to RVW I dont (yes DONT) think he had that bad season. Technically nobody had a good season, but hes talked about as if hes the only one. 1 goal is extremely disappointing but i'd love to see a ratio including how many chances he was actually created inside the box. I remember 1 away to Southampton (that actually assisted a goal!), the goal against Everton and a great chance that was brilliantly saved away at Fulham. 1 goal from 3 chances isnt bad. People moan about his size but thats not his fault, Hughton purchased a fox in the box predator and went about playing him (and hooper who escapes all blame) on the half way line dealing with hoofed balls. The limited crosses that came in from Mr Snodgrass curled away from him (or whoever was upfront) because we kept playing wingers who like to cut in and therefore the ball naturally curls away from the striker and easily to the keeper. People forget RVW played injured for a majority of first half of the season in pain that resulted in him having to leave on crutches after each game. He wasnt an awful signing, just another victim of the horrific Chris Hughton era that was not helped by the club going over the top hyping an overseas player who most had never seen before, just because he was our record signing. Regular in the Dutch nation squad and regular top scorer in two other leagues from round the globe. Forget all that though, Its all RVW fault of course ;)

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    Mattias333

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Bit harsh comparing him to those players. Those players didn't have a clueless inept manager who had no clue how to play them for a start

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    Ian Michael

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • He's the worst player purely from a monetary standpoint. Under better management this scenario would have played out far more positively. OTBC

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    Powers1902

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • Helveg was a bad one. He took precious wage budget and always seemed to think he was too good for us. The reality was the opposite - international world cup player with serie A experience but always mediocre. Final straw was the Danish national coach telling him he was too good for us. Good riddance.

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    DJ_FRAMBOISE

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I cannot even remember Steve Walsh, TrevorS. He must`ve been bad! I do remember Jim Blair - he was pretty poor, GRHS. I think on balance, RvW is the worst if the financial hit is included in the calculation. Conversely, the best ever signing was Grant Holt. It`s a bit cruel\prurient of Archant to highlight this debate. Timing`s not brilliant either. He`s not signed yet... If the question encompasses more than just players, my vote goes to Chris Hughton.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 4, 2014

  • I think you have to look no further than Steve Walsh.Theoklitos took some beating,or not as the case may be,but Walsh takes the title for me.

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    Trevor Sadd

    Monday, August 4, 2014

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