Video: Watch what motorists and pedestrians make of Cromer’s controversial new crossing

Pedestrians wait to see whether the traffic will stop for them when they use the new crossing at Cromer's Mount Street. Pedestrians wait to see whether the traffic will stop for them when they use the new crossing at Cromer's Mount Street.

Alex Hurrell alex.hurrell@archant.co.uk
Tuesday, March 11, 2014
1:41 PM

Cromer’s new town-centre pedestrian crossing has left residents and visitors feeling baffled, bothered, bewildered – and very underwhelmed.

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After two weeks of town-centre disruption during its installation – involving a road closure, diversions, a reversed one-way system and parking restrictions – the new £16,000 crossing has finally been unveiled, at the junction of Mount and Church streets.

The “informal” crossing consists of a strip of asphalt mixed with red chippings, bounded by paving slabs.

“Is that it? I can’t believe it,” said passer-by Roy Jennings, of Sutherland Court Gardens, Cromer. “It’s not worth all the hassle and cost. Why is that safer?”

Sharon Iwanczyk, from Dereham, who was visiting Cromer with her young family, used the crossing, pushing a buggy, without realising it was there.

“There’s nothing there to tell you – no lights or stripes. I drove over it this morning and didn’t notice it then either. I was looking at
the car in front of me, not
the road surface,” she said.

Rachel Sidell, receptionist at nearby Merchant’s Place, did not believe the work was finished: “If they leave it like that, it’s an accident waiting to happen,” she said.

Motorists turning into Mount Street seemed equally confused. A few gallantly stopped to let pedestrians cross, others ploughed on regardless.

Emma Askew, owner of The Rose Garden florist, on Mount Street, said the crossing was a “total and utter waste of money”.

She added: “They might
as well have painted a couple of white lines on the road.”

Danny Hickling, owner of the nearby Little Gems rock and crystal shop, was angry at the length of time the work had taken, deterring shoppers from visiting his business which had only taken £1 on one day.

Cromer Town Council
paid £4,000 towards the crossing but mayor David Pritchard said he wanted an urgent meeting with Norfolk County Council highways officers as he was “equally disappointed” with the outcome.

A county council spokesman said informal crossings were used to raise awareness to vehicles of a crossing
point for pedestrians but there was no formal right of way.

What do you think? Write to EDPLetters@archant.co.uk

37 comments

  • we have loads of these in derby and they are dangerous pedestrians just walk out on them some cars see them at last minute cos there is no warning and slam their brakes on regardless and causing hassle behind them some keep going whatever i would never use them if you dont want to put lights on them then paint black and white lines on them so people and drivers know what they are they dont cause more awareness just confusion

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    norfolk lover

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • I almost had an accident this morning with this new what is it crossing ? A lady walked out across the crossing without stopping for traffic and I almost hit her! A total waste of money with little or no planning by the highways department. Highways do something about it.

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    G3MWV

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • If it does anything it will cause accidents. Pedestrians who know it is there and what it is for will just walk across 'knowing' that they are in the right. Motorists just won't see it, especially those turning off the main road.

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    Max Headroom

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • A county council spokesman said informal crossings were used to raise awareness to vehicles of a crossing
point for pedestrians but there was no formal right of way. Informal Crossings and we are led to beleive that we should follow the highway code. where doesit show in the code book INFORMAL CROSSINGS. A more in depth reply publicaly should be made by Norfolk CC and also perhaps the Police and what thier views of these so called informal crossings are?

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    edifir

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • That's an accident waiting to happen. Zebra crossings are bad enough with both pedestrians launching themselves into the road without looking to see if vehicles have stopped and drivers ignoring them. That crossing is a potential death trap. It would be far safer if there were no crossing at all because reckless pedestrians will be encouraged to step out without due regard for traffic and a lot of drivers will not even see it. A dangerous waste of money - quite ludicrous!

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    Cyril the Canary

    Wednesday, March 12, 2014

  • It cost £16,000 what a joke!! why is it everyone within the gov and council likes wasting our money like this . A small strip of tarmac does not cost nowhere near that much and to take 2 weeks its outrageous. Do these people think we are stupid ?? Wait the next thing will be them painting stripes on it taking a week and saying it cost £5,000. I smell someones pocket getting fatter and I can sure tell you it is not mine!!

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    Damien Martin

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • I stood and watched today.two people on the crossing, stopped abruptly as a car from the Overstrand direction slammed its brakes on just in time. A pushchair struggled to turn up Mount street on the narrow realigned corner footpath with a lamppost obstruction. Three other pedestrians waited to cross Church street across two lanes of traffic....oh, and a car could barely see the wornout white road markings so went straight on rather than cross the crossing, wrong way on the one way system. I feel like using a can of spray paint to show where this stupid crossing is. We should all withhold our rates, maybe then the council would wake up before a death there.

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    granny

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • A county council spokesman said informal crossings were used to raise awareness to vehicles of a crossing
point for pedestrians but there was no formal right of way. Informal Crossings and we are led to beleive that we should follow the highway code. where doesit show in the code book INFORMAL CROSSINGS. A more in depth reply publicaly should be made by Norfolk CC and also perhaps the Police and what thier views of these so called informal crossings are?

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    edifir

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • NCC also wasted money raising the pelican crossing outside Haven holiday camp on the old coast road. I hope every bus driver and passenger who gets a back injury sues the council. It is so sharp and high it is impossible to go over it at anything but a crawl. This may be the point, but since there are no accidents at the crossing as opposed to injuries and a fatality within a few hundred yards the money has been misspent. it will not slow down those who dont know about it, the signs are inadequate for that. I gather it is to raise the height of those in wheel chairs-frankly I see them toppling off it, and the number of crossings by wheelchair users in the holiday season is piffling in comparison with the number of kids crossing the road all year round on other parts of the road where there is no proper crossing. Whoever spent this money should be sacked.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Thats Norfolk County Council again, trying wasting money as normal. There is a similar thing in Norwich near the Art School, People just stroll over the humped area without looking. Talk about Road Safety.

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    edifir

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • If there is a need for a crossing here, why not have a 'proper' one? If it is not blindingly clear to motorists that pedestrians have priority, then someone will eventually be hurt ... The fact that this crossing lies at a junction where motorists face other distractions adds to the potential danger.

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    Trevor Ashwin

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • There is one of these at the top of Yarmouth way in GY just a few steps from a proper pelican crossing . It is b.... dangerous- pedestrians expect to you to stop and the cars behind you are not expecting you to stop.There are also raised examples all down St Georges Road and along the sea front where one has to stop or risk little kids walking out in front of your wheels. These are in addition to the pelican crossings. Yet just a few miles away NCC cannot sort out putting in a proper zebra or pelican crossing where hordes of school kids cross the road from bus stop to school in the mornings. And notice the EDP has not carried the news about the spending allocated to coastal communities ( BBC East) Most of it is frivol- including £200K for the coastal path from Cromer to GY when many places on the coast are in desperate need of cycle paths and decent roadside pavements.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Poor Cromer, if it hasn't got enough problems already with a run down high street and dodgy Christmas Trees, it's now lumbered with this!

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    Bad Form

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Norfolk CC are not the only ones to waste money on these. Suffolk CC did one in Sudbury as well, cost thousands, caused uproar and then they had to put up big road signs to "ask" motorists to be aware of pedestrians. The "new" raised crossing point was less than 75 yards from a conventional pelican crossing!

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    The original Victor Meldrew

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Just checked the highway code and there is no mention at all of any such crossing. As Daisy says, if a pedestrian has started to cross at a junction, the pedestrian has the right of way otherwise they don't. Now NCC must have carried out a risk assessment - in writing - or they will be liable. They should publish it now!! Unaccountable, over paid council bureaucrats are the words that spring to mind.

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    andy

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • If neither pedestrians nor drivers understand it, it is dangerous. Just what planet are those who came up with this idea on?? Is it the same person or group of people who designed the overly complex Postwick junction? Whoever is in charge needs to get a grip on this waste of money. Meanwhile, the number and size of potholes continues to grow.

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    andy

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • What a complete joke this is ,total waste of Time , Money ,Inconvenience, Who ever thought this was a good idea is absolutely clueless ,AND HAVE NEVER TRIED TO CROSS THE ROAD AT THAT POINT. They should be ashamed and resign and go around in disguise so no one knows who they are to mock them .If this is the best that a bunch of highly paid people can come up with then it shows how wasteful our council tax is being spent .

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    ramhithome

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • I was also completely bemused and thought it was unfinished and lights need to be installed. I am also concerned that the millions being spent on improving the sea wall and defences will have any effect. I have read what is trying to be done but think the build up of sand at times will just negate the new work. Obviously there is some sea defence engineer with experience that the work will be effective. On the other hand the work on the pier is coming on fine allbeit slow.

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    Ruby

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Totally pointless and a mess. When is the Council going to prioritise car drivers in Cromer, which is already a nightmare during the holiday season? Oh, we can't possibly make pedestrians responsible for themselves now can we? How about LOOK LEFTRIGHT before crossing, if there's nothing coming, walk. Spectacular FAIL... I want my money back!

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    WalkerBikerDriver

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • I may be wrong but I thought pedestrians had priority at junctions only where they have already started to cross, not a priority to jump out in front of moving traffic and expect it to stop. Misleading pedestrians into thinking they can cross willy nilly is dangerous, putting crossing places where there are other distractions is dangerous-eg some bang on roundabout exits. This seems to be part and parcel of a chuck a risk in and it will scare motorists into slowing down to almost a standstill-removing street furniture and white lines will be next. In a town which gets congested in the season it seems a bit silly

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • What a complete and utter waste of £16000, its not a real pedestrian crossing and will cause accidents on that corner. Who's idea was that?

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    Diane Blazier

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • Surely it is obvious that if motorists don't understand that pedestrians have priority, then someone will eventually be hurt ...

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    Trevor Ashwin

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • How is that only the planners can see the good in such a crossing? Are they that much more intelligent than the rest of us? Or so far away from reality in their offices?

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    stormy

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Drove into cromer on Saturday and didn't see it, why waste £16.000 when there is a proper crossing a few metres up the road near the old school.

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    gerry mitson

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • "Informal" crossings are actually dangerous because no one understands them. Total waste of money and probably counter-productive.

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    The man on the Clapham Omnibus

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • I cant wait for the official opening of this bizarre crossing I have a feeling there will be more complaints that clapping

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    i am mostly wrong??

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

  • As a motorist I'd treat it as a speed bump, as no Zebra lines etc., I have not been to Cromer for a while, but should it not have lines painted as a junction too? Ran out of paint I guess after 16k for this.

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    WTH

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • It's a shame that NNDC Planners have wasted funds on these schemes that could have been spent on proper zebra crossings - like Callum Ringer said someone must be held to account for this blatant waste of public money.

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    spark

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Congratulations Comer planners! It's even more of a shambolic waste of money than we could ever have imagined!

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    backwoodsman

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • I stood and watched today.two people on the crossing, stopped abruptly as a car from the Overstrand direction slammed its brakes on just in time. A pushchair struggled to turn up Mount street on the narrow realigned corner footpath with a lamppost obstruction. Three other pedestrians waited to cross Church street across two lanes of traffic....oh, and a car could barely see the wornout white road markings so went straight on rather than cross the crossing, wrong way on the one way system. I feel like using a can of spray paint to show where this stupid crossing is. We should all withhold our rates, maybe then the council would wake up before a death there.

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    granny

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • It's even better now! They are in the process of putting up scaffolding on the path, of the traffic light side of Church Street. After navigating the "crossing", I had to walk out in the middle of the road, to get passed. Just great! :-(

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    CoastalCrab

    Wednesday, March 12, 2014

  • Thats Norfolk County Council again, trying wasting money as normal. There is a similar thing in Norwich near the Art School, People just stroll over the humped area without looking. Talk about Road Safety.

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    edifir

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Someone had better make their mind up quick as to what it is before there is an accident. The traffic whizzes round that corner at bottom of Mount Street.

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    samphirelover

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • END OF TAX YEAR. That's why they blew £4k on this useless piece of tarmac. Simple.

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    Vinyl Lionel

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • Forgot to say, they are obviously overstaffed with not enough to do. Cut the number of staff and spend the savings on roads!

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    andy

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • We've got several of these informal crossings in Sheringham, they are a ridiculous waste of public money and serve no purpose whatsoever. Their 'informal' nature leads to dangerous situations where both pedestrians and vehicles think they have right of way. Whoever decided these are a good idea in both Cromer and Sheringham should be held to account.

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    Callum Ringer

    Monday, March 10, 2014

  • It's not a crossing its a price of red Tarmac, the two things are very different as any pedestrian who simply steps out will find out.

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    KeithS

    Tuesday, March 11, 2014

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