Public blamed as demolition of Two Bears Hotel in Great Yarmouth gets green light

The former Two Bears Hotel off Pasteur Road.

Picture: James Bass The former Two Bears Hotel off Pasteur Road. Picture: James Bass

Saturday, December 28, 2013
11:30 AM

The iconic Two Bears Hotel can be demolished to make way for a “bland” bulky goods shop, planning councillors have ruled.

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An artist's impression of what the former Two Bears Hotel site in Yarmouth could look like. Picture from Cityscape Developments Ltd, Norwich.An artist's impression of what the former Two Bears Hotel site in Yarmouth could look like. Picture from Cityscape Developments Ltd, Norwich.

While 15 jobs are set to be created, residents fear traffic problems and the loss of historic architecture - with 14 letters of objection.

But planning chairman Mick Castle said residents are to blame for the loss of the Pasteur Road hotel, as they rallied against a wedding marquee application some years ago.

He told last week’s meeting a petition from High Mill Road residents had blocked the marquee bid, and land to the rear of the hotel was subsequently sold to a Felixstowe developer.

This paved the way for Heritage Mews.

The former Two Bears Hotel in Cobholm, Great Yarmouth.   Picture: James BassThe former Two Bears Hotel in Cobholm, Great Yarmouth. Picture: James Bass

“They said it would be rowdy behaviour, but we have weddings in the town hall without any trouble,” explained Mr Castle.

“I think the Two Bears Hotel was badly served as if they had got that application it would probably still be in business now.”

Locals said that they were not opposed to a new use, 
but wanted the facade preserved.

Resident Geoffrey Harrison told the meeting: “Pasteur Road is already anonymous enough and the loss of this Edwardian building would impoverish Southtown and Cobholm, which already have little to distinguish them.

“The proposed building seen in the artists’ impressions seem bland and could be anywhere.”

But Chris Marsden, of applicants Citygate Developments, said retaining the frontage would involve “quite prohibitive” costs.

He said it would need temporary supports while the rest of the building was demolished, a new steel frame to strengthen it, new foundations, new insulation to meet building regulations and many other aspects including concealed gutters.

He said the new shop would need a “highly visible presence” not consistent with the existing facade.

“I honestly don’t know 
who the occupier is and even if I did I wouldn’t be at 
liberty to tell you due to commercial confidentiality,” he added.

The applicants did consider the empty unit by the side 
of Matalan, but said that there was not enough floor space.

A previous bid to turn the Two Bears into a YMCA hostel was dropped last year.

Penny Linden, councillor for Southtown and Cobholm ward, said she had received email objections to the new plans from as far afield as Australia.

“I’ve many memories of the Two Bears myself,” she recalled.

“It’s a great building but I think we’ve missed a move somewhere in Cobholm.

“We had the Maltings, we’ve got Shipley’s and the Ice House, we could have been a nice conservation area but we’ve not valued what we’ve got. It’s a gateway and it just needs some gentle tender loving care.”

She added: “What we’re being offered here is pretty mediocre in design.”

She was saddened by the loss of historic buildings, like the former Rocket pub which is now Pizza Hut.

But Charles Reynolds, councillor for Ormesby ward, said: “I find it impossible to share Cllr Linden’s romantic view of it, as it’s an absolute disgrace as you enter town.”

He added: “I truly believe 
the building has gone too far and there’s obviously no interest within the leisure trade.

“The new building, boxy as it is, would certainly improve that gateway into town.

“I’ve some sympathy about the facade and remember driving coaches into the old Southtown Station, but it’s simply not practical for that building.

“It’s time to put the old dog down.”

The new store would have 26 car parking spaces, and the 15 jobs would comprise 12 in store and three in delivery.

The planning application was approved at a meeting at Great Yarmouth Town Hall, with seven councillors in favour and three voting against the proposal.

56 comments

  • I don't know Gt Yarmouth well, but it looks like a building worth saving. I thought councillors were supposed to represent the public, rather than blame them, particularly when they have the final say. I couldn't believe it when I tried to get to the mouth of the Yare (Gt Yarmouth side) only to find the public were barred. Who agreed to that?

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    pablo

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Nice to see a bit of progress actually. The building is knackered and no-one wants it in its current state. You can hold on to the past for too long. It would be nice if we could move Yarmouth into the 21st century instead of falling further and further behind relying on tourism and producing nothing.

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    ncfc boy

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • What happened to the opposite corner? Whens the Rocket pub being demolished so we can have matching developments at the gates of Cobhom

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    Paul Morley

    Thursday, January 2, 2014

  • I first visited Gt Yarmouth over sixty years ago. It was a fantastic resort. Every pier had a top class star and show that ran for the whole season. There was a theatre where Market Gates mall stands. The sea front had childrens amusements , a Wild West show and a Seawater open air swimming pool. It was a vibrant town. Then the offshore industry arrived. The powers that be thought that Yarmouth had become the Houston of the UK. All future plans were wrapped up in this . idea. Including the outer harbour. There was a very large caravan site stretching from the amusement park to the harbour fronted by a marvellous beach. This was earmarked for container storage. The traffic planners even planned for the container lorries to travel the whole length of the sea front to exit the town. Great mix , trucks and holidaymakers. The council turned its back on the holiday trade and this was fine until oil was discovered off Scotland. Result, a great withdrawal of offshore companies and a fourth rate resort left behind. A sea front that was derelict, no pool and in its place the monstrosity known as the leisure centre. The land from the amusement park to the harbour is still empty. There is so much empty retail space in Gt Yarmouth , including the old Co-op it is hard to see why this new monstrosity is being built. No not hard ,it is Gt Yarmouth council carrying on its tradition of idiocy. The outer harbour is here and has proved, as many ,many people thought, outside of the council chambers to be a great white elephant. Yarmouth as a resort is almost dead. Well done Gt yarmouth council and by allowing this latest blunder, they are continuing the tradition of shortsighted , inept,clueless management of the town.

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    stormy

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • This hotel has many memories for many people so why knock it down to build some futuristic building? Why not give it the TLC it needs and make it something that residents can make use of once again?? So many developers make no effort in researching what it is people really want ending in disaster!! I for one would love to see the building stay and put to use than to see it destroyed!

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    Gems

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • I agree that this is a disgrace, however Mr Castle has one thing right, the local residents only have themselves to blame, just 15 letters of rejection!!! I am not a local resident and did not know of this plan but if i did i would have rejected, more pretty brick buildings giving way for metal and glass pre-fabs - they call it progress!

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    outspoken

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • The blame lies with the locals. They did not frequent the Two Bears or want it used as a wedding venue. “They said it would be rowdy behaviour, but we have weddings in the town hall without any trouble,” explained Mr Castle. “I think the Two Bears Hotel was badly served as if they had got that application it would probably still be in business now.” Spot on there. NIMBY's everywhere out to stop everything take note.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • It seems that Cllr Castle just can't stop putting his foot in his mouth - maybe he could go the whole hog and dust off his stormtrooper outfit for New Year's eve?

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    Fenscape

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Since when has Reynolds and co taken any notice of the views of local residents. When the Cap and Gown PH at Gorleston was up before them for knocking down and replacing by social housing there were nearly one thousand objections to the scheme. Who got the blame? The local residents for not using the pub!

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    BG

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • My first comment never passed the Archant red liner. Why ? No swear words ,just an opinion. I will try again. Gt Yarmouth has self destructed from a vibrant seaside resort to the Yarmouth of today.The decline started with the then council thinking that offshore gas would make Yarmouth the Dallas of the UK. Wrong. The Outer Harbour was the councils next much vaunted saviour. Wrong. It is here and a white elephant. The Two Bears has to be replaced ,it has been allowed to fall into such a bad state. But why allow such a building in its place. There is so much empty retail space in Gt Yarmouth, such as the co-op, which I believe is going to be some sort of indoor market. What a waste of a fine building. Gt Yarmouth councils have for years turned the back on the assets of Gt Yarmouth. It has wonderful beaches, promenade and piers . These should be developed bringing Gt Yarmouth back to its past glory.

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    stormy

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Yet again the council miss the point, focusing on totally the wrong things, intent on knocking down historical buildings, history and culture will bring people to Great Yarmouth, not another redundant store!

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    Dnk Lettings

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • When I read this story and look at some of the other developments around the borough it appears to me that the council has no vision for the region. I've lived here for thirty years and when I return to visit my very humble home town and see what's been donedeveloped there I feel a mixture of pride for this and sadness for where is now my home. YarmouthGorleston has so much going for it - a harbour, offshore industry, fantastic beaches, a holiday industry, the broads and a great city - Norwich - just up the road, yet year upon year, whoever we vote for we see the same old cronies looking after the same old cronies in appalling developments. I write this note as I look out of my window at the block of flats in Morrissons car park having walked again past the collapsed wall by the old White Lion steps.

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    wallywalnut

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Nice to see some support for the councillors who have made the right decision, As Charles Reynolds, councillor for Ormesby ward, said: “ it’s an absolute disgrace as you enter town.” “I truly believe 
the building has gone too far and there’s obviously no interest within the leisure trade. Pubs are closing in East Anglia at the rate of six each month according to CAMRA. The Two Bears was one of them and along with removing an eyesore 14 jobs will be created.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • peter, do you realise that many people not in work pay taxes, including pensioners and shock horror peeps on benefits! or do you think that VAT is not a tax?

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    Andy Wales

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • The reality of the lower demand for more shops and stores in great Yarmouth is plain for all to see... Many empty shops already 20 plus .... Bennetts and the massive market old Co op buildings are proof that extra shops and stores are not needed .. 55,000 empty shops around the UK now.. 5 years time estimated 75,000 by 2020 ... The Internet is the current growing way to shop for 60% of your needs for a growing amount of people. The Mobil phone is the new shopping mall in your hand.... Even tourists are less and the season is only 6 main weeks .. Down from 12 weeks years ago... The Shopping society has changed in a massive way now.. 2 million sales from shops lost everyday to the Internet .. And growing .. More shops will close .. Basic Logic.. 2 bears another store we do not need with online shopping and online supmarket food deliveries growing every month... How long will it last... Reality is the Internet future shopping with many free delivery .. Like it or not... Empty shops are the future living accommodation.. . On the high street... Changes and time moves on ..

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    Lionel

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • The Nimby's have got exactly what they deserve now. They complained when the Two Bears tried an adult meeting club there on occasional evenings, they complained when they wanted to do weddings, they did not give the place any custom. It went broke and now they can live with the consequences of their actions.

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    DaveG

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but Cobham seems gradually to be moving towards becoming an extension on Gapton Hall, what with Matalan, Dreams, B&M, Lidl's, Economy Carpets & Tesco already there, along with the other smaller businesses that are there as well as two pasta factories. I know most of them have been there a long time, but now it looks like there getting company. Still something which will bring jobs, albeit a few, is better than nothing.

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    Spooky

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • London in Norfolk, it can't be such a bad area, or why else would all you incomers move in?

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    peter waller

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • I blame the council for not allowing the wedding marquee after all there was only 15 objections and when do the council pay any attention to objections anyhow except when it suits their purposes.But now they've got that one sorted out perhaps they can start sorting out the eyesores on the seafront starting with the disgraceful Empire building.

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    buckeee0

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • Its a shame their pulling it down, but one things for sure, the area around this new building won't look anything like the artist's impression. It's going to be a new clean building, sitting on the corner of two roads that have grubby, untidy buildings (one of the houses behind the building is actually on the verge of falling down if nothings done about it) and 26 parking spaces isn't going to be of any help. If and when it opens and depending on what it becomes, people will be parking over at Matalan, B&M and Lidl's and being on top of 3 way traffic lights is going to be a bummer for traffic going in and out.

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    Spooky

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • I agree with the redevelopment crowd, as in demolish and redevelop. Anyone thinking this is a restore project needs to find someone who is prepared to restore and Finance, Those of you who think THEY is the Government are living in USSR. Its WE the people who are the Government and as such its OUR taxes we are discussing, well those of us working.

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    Paul Morley

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • Its obvious that the drivel coming from Castle and Reynolds gobs, they are only interested in themselves and what they can get out of "sponging" off the public trough, rather than the good of the town.

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    "V"

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • All of you who say restore it and use it as a community building and don't tear it down clearly have no concept of the correlation between the government doing things and money. Do you know how costly it is to restore buildings? It's not cheap, and everyone likes to say "save the old building," but when push comes to shove no one is willing to front the money to save these old buildings. If you all care so much why don't you pool your cash together and pay to restore the place? Also where is the council supposed to get the money to have it restored? Stop remembering the place as it was and start looking at it like it is now. The place is old and run down and just an eyesore. It is a piece of history but as someone else pointed out Yarmouth has so much history, so there are many other nicer old buildings. The two bears has had its time, and that time has passed. It's time to move on to something newer and better because as a not necessarily beautiful shop it will serve a purpose; while, as an old run down building it does nothing.

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    Z:)

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • How about another BetFRED outlet? Or another concept the Betting Mall lets place all the betting shops under one leaky roof.

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    Paul Morley

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • The two bears and the facade inbetween could be quite valuable. I do wonder if they might end up in the town hall as trophies or perhaps a gift to one of the councillors on the planning committee. You never know!

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    wes1975

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • All of you who say restore it and use it as a community building and don't tear it down clearly have no concept of the correlation between the government doing things and money. Do you know how costly it is to restore buildings? It's not cheap, and everyone likes to say "save the old building," but when push comes to shove no one is willing to front the money to save these old buildings. If you all care so much why don't you pool your cash together and pay to restore the place? Also where is the council supposed to get the money to have it restored? Stop remembering the place as it was and start looking at it like it is now. The place is old and run down and just an eyesore. It is a piece of history but as someone else pointed out Yarmouth has so much history, so there are many other nicer old buildings. The two bears has had its time, and that time has passed. It's time to move on to something newer and better because as a not necessarily beautiful shop it will serve a purpose; while, as an old run down building it does nothing.

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    Z:)

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • All of you who say restore it and use it as a community building and don't tear it down clearly have no concept of the correlation between the government doing things and money. Do you know how costly it is to restore buildings? It's not cheap, and everyone likes to say "save the old building," but when push comes to shove no one is willing to front the money to save these old buildings. If you all care so much why don't you pool your cash together and pay to restore the place? Also where is the council supposed to get the money to have it restored? Stop remembering the place as it was and start looking at it like it is now. The place is old and run down and just an eyesore. It is a piece of history but as someone else pointed out Yarmouth has so much history, so there are many other nicer old buildings. The two bears has had its time, and that time has passed. It's time to move on to something newer and better because as a not necessarily beautiful shop it will serve a purpose; while, as an old run down building it does nothing.

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    Z:)

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • Dry bulk goods shop. Architecturally challenged and a poor location at that, but hey capitalism and market forces will no doubt re purpose the new venture in a few years. Maybe into the new betting Mall with all 3 shops under one tasteful roof, oh wait a minute isnt that a casino.

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    Paul Morley

    Thursday, January 2, 2014

  • I’m not sure how anyone can blame the public for the loss of this tatty old building, if it had a good use it wouldn’t be in demolished, it holds no architectural value as no part of it is special, it’s lopsided with only one side having a bay window. Knock it down and move on, there are thousands of buildings of this age and in better order, build something that’s going to be used.

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    parkeg1

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Thats a shame ....

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    Lanelle Huggins

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • My heart sinks. There are so many reasons why this is madness. Firstly the town has more empty retail space than it knows what to do with, one example of this (Bennets) is literally opposite the Two Bears and has ample parking and access to provide space for whichever "bulky retailer" is so desperate to set up shop. Secondly it seems that with the offer of a dozen part-time, minimum wage jobs developers have free-range to do what they wish at the moment. However ugly, generic and un-needed their plans are they can wave some low-quality employment in front of the faces of the planning committee and get it passed. Thirdly it is patently obvious that the developers do not have a taker for the retail space. If they did they would be more than happy to say who it was to offset the bad news that a historic building is being demolished with the great news that Yarmouth will be getting, I don't know, a Furniture Village. I would imagine that the new shop will be built, lay empty for a number of months and then be taken over by some hapless local furniture store, most likely moving out of premises in the town centre therefore creating no more jobs, emptying the centre even more and, in the process, doing more damage to the townscape around Haven Bridge. A pathetic decision by a planning committee who have given in to letting Great Yarmouth whither away and become a town with no architectural or topographical merit. How many jobs to replace the Town Hall with a Primark? Who would even object?

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    Norfolkadam

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • who cares anyway, lovely building bad area

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    London in Norfolk

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • M Clintergate. Nobody posted a comment about the glory days of 1912, if they were in fact glory days. My comment was of the days of the sixties, based on my own experience Flying today is not as cheap with all the draconian taxes. In fact there is a revival of the UK holiday scene. GT Yarmouth has been poorly led for years and as I previously mentioned the councils over the years have ignored the wonderful assets of the town. As I understand it ,a lot of money was spent widening the pavement at the front, aiming for outdoor eating as on the continent. The failure for this, to materialise was apparently due the reluctance of the cafe owners to pay a large tax imposed by the council. What next for Gt Yarmouth ? Who knows , perhaps this council has its own rabbit to pull out of the hat.

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    stormy

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Stormy You can put table and chairs on the Yarmouth front but you'll never change the climate to that of the Mediterranean. I mentioned 1912 because that's when the Two Bears was built to take advantage of the traffic arriving at South Town station from the industrial midland's. Here is a fact you can't deny. Last year, six of the ten local authorities with the highest rate of insolvency per head of population were on the coast according to statistics from the Insolvency Service. They were Blackpool, Torbay, Scarborough,Rhyl, Hull and Great Yarmouth! The Two Bears was looking down at heal for years before it closed. Face facts and accept it's heading for the demolition crew just like the three railway stations.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • You've missed the point Harry. The Two Bears was a business. To survive it needed support from the locals. I wonder if you ever spent any money there? It's just like the village shop or local pub that never see's custom from all the NIMBY's who object to change of use applications. The overheads on a building like this are horrendous. Who do you suggest picks up the tab?

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    Michael Clintergate

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • I really thought it would burn down just like Mr Ts did just up the road......accidental fires have a way of simplifying planning procedures.

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    Fly Tipper

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • The fact that this vandalism is allowed is sufficient evidence that councillors, planners, developers and unfortunately, it would appear, many people who live in Yarmouth couldn't give a damn about the place. Building a monstrosity like this is exactly the opposite of "regeneration". It is destruction, dumbing-down and making the built environment in a place, which already in parts resembles a "hell on earth" bombsite, unliveable. A thorough disgrace.

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    T Doff

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • What do we actually know about this developer? Cityscape Developments Ltd? They don't have any presence on the internet so it's not possible for any member of the public to scrutinise any work they've done previously. They seem to be run by Jonathan Darrell who lives in Tacolneston Hall south of Norwich. Although the Mercury says Cityscape are based in Norwich their company address is a brass plaque in Bishop's Stortford where he also has registered Trenton Estates Ltd, Scot's Farm (Bearwood) Ltd, Tacolneston Estates Ltd, Claverhouse Ltd, New Tyneside Developments Ltd and Minstead Investments Ltd. On top of that there are a number of other development companies to his name that have either been dissolved or liquidated. I cannot find a single website to mention any of his companies (least of all Cityscape) in reference to any succesful projects. It just all seems a little fishy.

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    Norfolkadam

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Ah yes Cllr Reynolds, why not also demolish the historic properties along Hall Quay and South Quay and replace them with modern units? Everything possible should be done to restore this property.

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    blue tractor

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Talk of bringing Yarmouth back to the glory days of 1912 when the Two Bears was built misses one important point. We've moved on a century and it's now cheaper to fly to somewhere warm for a holiday. I'm sure in the glory days there was plenty of custom for the hotel from the dock trade and as a meeting place for business people. However Yarmouth is run down like most UK seaside towns with the old fashioned holiday patrons long gone. I like the way there are lot's of clever idea's about using the building for community use. Who is going to pay? It was open for community use as a pub and the sad fact is that there was no demand from the locals. Knock it down and let's move on.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • "Chris Marsden, of applicants Citygate Developments, said retaining the frontage would involve “quite prohibitive” costs." Mr Marsden is talking *******, and I suggest he looks at what was done to turn the Cherry Tree PH in Welwyn Garden City into a Waitrose supermarket whilst retaining the front of the building!

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    Clarkson for PM

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • We live in an age of destruction! Looking at the nightmare scenario the council have inflicted on the seafront, the demolition of another old building would be of no concern to them! If you wanted a blueprint on how to run down what used to be a thriving holiday destination,look no further than Yarmouth.The 2 Bears hotel is yet another casualty of the shortsighted destructive mindset that seems to characterise councils these days.Let the developers put up yet another architectural abortion,it will go with the rest of the place!

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    Harry Rabinowitz

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • This is scandalous another old building knocked down! Is there not enough empty retail units in Yarmouth? One opposite Bennett s with parking and Comet with parking. This should be a housing project for over 50, s or Key worker's nurse's etc. What another council blunder!

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    Gaz

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • Sad news very short siteted on the part of counclers. very difficult to see that there is more spaceroom on the two bears site than the former Bennett's site and yard. Hope that planning concent includes penalty s if the site remains empty after demolition s

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    k day

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Birch vandals, end of vandalism.

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    John Bridge

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Reynolds exemplifies everything bad about GY councillors On the council for decades, presided over the neglect of listed and historic buildings all over the town, pulled down the jetty, ripping up the tennis courts for car parks, hand in glove with the holiday trade and part of it-complete philistines the lot of them. If the Two Bears goes, whatever replaces it wont be any better as an gateway to the town-Pasteur Road is already a shambles and the Bank buildings will soon all be empty and boarded up or filled with flats for immigrants. GY council has not been fit for purpose for as long as I have lived in the borough. Only the wealth created by the oil industry kept things afloat for a while, Now that is gone the gaping hole in their competence is exposed. Then there is the matter that everything is being sucked out of GY and all work and retail opportunities created on the Gorleston side of the river while the town empties

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    Daisy Roots

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • And upon reading the above comments it would appear that many people aren't happy with the 'proposed' idea surely that tells you this is going to be a huge mistake!

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    Gems

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • M Clintergate. Nobody posted a comment about the glory days of 1912, if they were in fact glory days. My comment was of the days of the sixties, based on my own experience Flying today is not as cheap with all the draconian taxes. In fact there is a revival of the UK holiday scene. GT Yarmouth has been poorly led for years and as I previously mentioned the councils over the years have ignored the wonderful assets of the town. As I understand it ,a lot of money was spent widening the pavement at the front, aiming for outdoor eating as on the continent. The failure for this, to materialise was apparently due the reluctance of the cafe owners to pay a large tax imposed by the council. What next for Gt Yarmouth ? Who knows , perhaps this council has its own rabbit to pull out of the hat.

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    stormy

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • Please when you knock it down, can I have ONE OF THE BEARS.... Please.... I love them and it would be so sad to them in a skip... please I love Bears, it would have a happy home

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    OLDYELLA

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • It seems downright unfair to keep going on about the NIMBYs and the residents as a group. I would wager that the vast majority of people who live locally have never objected to any change of use applications and if they didn't visit it when it was a restaurant it was because it was grotty and didn't look like a welcoming or friendly place to be. Just because a few local busybodies took it upon themselves to complain about it becoming a wedding venue (I lived locally and never caught wind of it) doesn't mean that we should just abanadon the whole of Southtown and Cobholm to the architectural end days.

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    Norfolkadam

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • M Clintergate. Nobody posted a comment about the glory days of 1912, if they were in fact glory days. My comment was of the days of the sixties, based on my own experience Flying today is not as cheap with all the draconian taxes. In fact there is a revival of the UK holiday scene. GT Yarmouth has been poorly led for years and as I previously mentioned the councils over the years have ignored the wonderful assets of the town. As I understand it ,a lot of money was spent widening the pavement at the front, aiming for outdoor eating as on the continent. The failure for this, to materialise was apparently due the reluctance of the cafe owners to pay a large tax imposed by the council. What next for Gt Yarmouth ? Who knows , perhaps this council has its own rabbit to pull out of the hat.

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    stormy

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • This council should buck its ideas up, should be attracting people with jobs or retired, not the hand out brigade from around the world including this one. Fill the empty retail units first, or is this going to be the countrys first super charity shop????

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    Gaz

    Monday, December 30, 2013

  • For the Empire all the council can do is tell Peter Jay to do something about it, he owns it along with the Hippodrome and the cinema by the bowling green. There's plenty of eyesores in Yarmouth, including a lot of the houses. Have you seen the state of the building next to the Carlton Hotel in Marine Parade, or is it part of the hotel, either way it looks like a dump and as we all know the Winter Gardens is one hell of an eyesore. Hope they get the money to do something with it sooner rather than later.

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    Spooky

    Sunday, December 29, 2013

  • Perhaps something that other NIMBYs ought to remember when they force companies out of business. May they enjoy driving (slowly, in the queues) past the bland replacement for a beautiful traditional hotel building.

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    Richard Cullen

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • I’m not sure how anyone can blame the public for the loss of this tatty old building, if it had a good use it wouldn’t be in demolished, it holds no architectural value as no part of it is special, it’s lopsided with only one side having a bay window. Knock it down and move on, there are thousands of buildings of this age and in better order, build something that’s going to be used.

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    parkeg1

    Saturday, December 28, 2013

  • What happened to the opposite corner? Whens the Rocket pub being demolished so we can have matching developments at the gates of Cobhom

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    Paul Morley

    Thursday, January 2, 2014

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