Poll: Should pupils be given the day off school to attend the Royal Norfolk Show?

From next year, pupils will not be given a day off school to attend the show. Picture: James Bass From next year, pupils will not be given a day off school to attend the show. Picture: James Bass

Saturday, March 29, 2014
12:21 PM

Norfolk pupils will no longer be given a day off school to attend the Royal Norfolk Show.

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The county council decided to scrap the Thursday holiday from 2015-2016 after schools said it was also leading to parents keeping children out of the classroom the following day.

A Norfolk County Council spokesman said: “Headteachers have told us that having a pupil holiday on the Thursday of the Royal Norfolk Show has had a negative impact on attendance the following day. Clearly we want Norfolk’s children to attend school regularly, as attendance and attainment are so closely linked - we have therefore reviewed the arrangements for 2015.

“In addition, we have been told by both the former and current organisers of the show that fewer children have actually attended the event since the school holiday arrangements began in 2012. The show committee feels that more children would attend, as part of organised school parties, if schools remained open during the event.

“We always said that the arrangements to have a holiday to coincide with the Norfolk Show were on a trial basis and we consulted with headteachers about proposals to change the arrangements, for schools that wish to follow a countywide calendar.”

The show is the largest annual event in Norfolk, and claims to be the largest two-day agricultural show in the country, with more than 650 stalls.

This year it will be held on June 25-26.

What do you think? Vote in our poll, comment below or email martin.george@archant.co.uk

30 comments

  • The local and Norfolk shows are important as showcases of what was, IS, and could be great about Norfolk. Otherwise the view of their countycountry is limited to what a teacher tells them!

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    Frankie Richer

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Let me ask you a question tootyfruity do you understand how the food you eat is grown?i suspect from your comments you were not born in Norfolk?

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    grom999

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Although I don't think it was ever going to work giving children the day off to go to the show with their parents for the simple reason it is too expensive. Far more children went with organised school trips because entry was free providing they filled in a questionnaire. Opening on a Saturday would give parents an option if they wanted to go. It is probably worth pointing out that although the children were given the day off school would have to take part in training as it is designated as one of the 5 training days. The children are not getting an extra days holiday.

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    Nickynoo

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Move the show to a Friday and give them a Friday off. Therefore a chance for them to have a day off to go, and then the schools can't complain they're having the rest of the week off.

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    Jeffrey Osborne

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I think that we need to be clear as to exactly what this 'day off' is. It is actually one of the 5 teacher training Inset days which must be scheduled throughout the school year and I think it was sensible to coincide it with the Norfolk Show so that families have the option of attending it if they want to without being punished with an unauthorised absence. I know that lots of families at my child's school appreciate the opportunity to visit the show, and there is plenty to see and do which doesn't involve having to spend lots of money at the many commercial stands. From the dates which have been published It looks like the day previously scheduled to coincide with the Norfolk Show has been tagged onto the October half term which now extends to a week and a half rather than a week. I would far rather have to take a day off with my child in June when hopefully the weather is better, and have the opportunity to go to the Norfolk Show if I want to rather than having to take even more time off in one go at the end of October. I'd be interested to know how many parents apparently keep their children off school the following day as it's not something I've come across; is it really that big an issue? The other thing to bear in mind is that schools do not have to follow the county's dates anymore as each school now has the right to set their own term dates; so if parents feel strongly about it then they should make their views known by writing to their school's governing body.

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    Row71

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • It really has very little to do with Norfolk, it is simply an opportunity to charge large sums of money to see advertising. But having a day or two off at the end of June does give families the chance to visit attractions which offer some value for money.

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    el84

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Just for reference it was 1960s a After that the town got squashed and we left.. Norfolk and Suffolk should be leading the world in engineering, ok we get side tracked by off shore because we are good at that..CLS perfect example! Pure brilliant company IMHO, no I don't hold shares. Get Suffolk children educated and to shows, one day inspiration will last them a lifetime of non-sense... East of England are brilliant at this... It is easy for us....

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    Dave01

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I love my son having the day off for the Norfolk Show. But we take the opportunity to get out of Norfolk and go to Legoland or Alton Towers which are much better value and we don't have to spend ages stuck in traffic along the A47!

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    Catty

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • In answer to poll I say yes, having a primary school visit to Needham Market farm gave me a lifetime experience of the scale of land.. It should not even be a poll it is vitally important for our children to see the bigger picture....

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    Dave01

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Well done NCC - a good decision at last. Going to the show is up to the parents. Can all parents afford to take their children to the Show? How many responsible parents will take time off work to take their children? Organised class trips are ok but where is the educational value in unaccompanied groups of teens drinking, eating, dropping litter? An unstructured day 'off' is worse than a family going on holiday in term time! Do the teachers get a tedious 'training' day, or time to tidy the cupboards and get paperwork up to date - or just feel disgruntled because they didn't get a day off too? On the other hand it could be a day for teachers to 're-charge the batteries' so that they don't suffer Burn Out too early - saves having a day's strike. I love Catty's remarks about going to somewhere that is better value and avoiding traffic queues!!

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    Patrick

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Move the show to a Friday and give them a Friday off. Therefore a chance for them to have a day off to go, and then the schools can't complain they're having the rest of the week off.

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    Jeffrey Osborne

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • "Let me ask you a question tootyfruity do you understand how the food you eat is grown?i suspect from your comments you were not born in Norfolk? " Im not sure what that's got to do with anything..but no I wasn't born here. However, having lived in this county for about 40 years I feel Im well placed to comment. Im afraid that those who believe the RNS is about educating our children in rural life and agriculture probably believe that Glastonbury is about grass roots music and nothing to do with selling....

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    Tootyfrooty

    Monday, March 31, 2014

  • I TOLD YOU LAST YEAR TO MOVE IT BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO SCHOOL HOLIDAYS OR EVEN HAVE IT FRI,SAT,SUNDAY.

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    Blocked User

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Like many county shows, the RNS was originally an agricultural show. Like most county shows, it is now a trade show, featuring businesses of many kinds. Now that we have extensive TV & internet learning, it is not quite so important that children go to a show to learn about the food supply chain. If the show were run over a Friday, Saturday & Sunday, children could still go, more parents, (and others, me included), would have the time to go and the attendance would probably increase, to the benefit of the show itself.

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    Labratone

    Sunday, March 30, 2014

  • Well said daisy roots I suggest you would make a very good council leader

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    grom999

    Sunday, March 30, 2014

  • There are also many parents that do not have the available finances or the available transport to go to the show.

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    Essex Girl

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Tooty Fruity wrote 'Sadly its the likes of the RNS that keeps the image of the carrot crunchers alive....' Now, Tooty, that image is? Straight family trees perhaps? Going oooh arrr when a car overtakes a tractor? Breeding the likes of Lord Nelson? Feeding a large proportion of the nation? Please enlighten us.

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    peter waller

    Sunday, March 30, 2014

  • Give children the day off to attend the show, teachers had the day off to attend their strike.

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    loco

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Bending the rules to suit some, whilst parents get fined for going on holidays. Lol

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Sunday, March 30, 2014

  • 'Parents to be fined for taking their children on holiday during term time', was the response some weeks back, cracking down with fines, now we should bend the rules for the RNS? Parents are forced to choose the cheaper holiday during term, because during school holidays, vacations are overpriced, too expensive.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I TOLD YOU LAST YEAR TO MOVE IT BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO SCHOOL HOLIDAYS OR EVEN HAVE IT FRI,SAT,SUNDAY.

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    Blocked User

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I have been going to the show since 1954. There are still many families in the county who are involved in farming or one of the associated businesses who see the show a traditional highlight of their calendar. Agriculture features large in the economy of Norfolk, despite the anti rural witterings of incomers. In my opinion the experience children may get from a school outing to the show is not the same as one they would get from a visit as part of a family-especially if they are from farming families.School visits tend to concentrate of the add ons- the tents and displays presented by conservation bodies, the EA and other concerns which give a nice little tick box sheet on a clip board experience for troops of kids being shepherded round by townie teachers. The farm kids will be looking at the farm machinery or the pigs and the cattle tent and the sheep classes and hoping one of the bulls cuts a caper in the grand ring or seeing their mates in the YFC display. There might be a lot of commercial non farming sales stalls, but the association has to pay the bills somehow-and visitors do not have to patronise them. If the holiday is cut, Norfolk head teachers should give parents the option of taking their child out of school on the Wednesday or Thursday.( Having Thursday and Friday was stupid-Wednesday was always the best day at the show.). And as for whining about the transport and cost-there are a lot of buses and the cost is no or little more than many attractions-eg Pleasure wood Hills or a day ticket at the Pleasure Beach. Incomers and non farming people might not see the point of the show, but give those who do,who wish to participate or attend, a chance.

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    Daisy Roots

    Sunday, March 30, 2014

  • the royal Norfolk show is very educational for children.my own children love the show and learn so much.whether they are given a day off or not they will be going in the future.there is no problem closing schools when we have a flake of snow or teachers decide to strike

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    grom999

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I used to get a day out of boarding school in the 1950's to go to the Show, and I think that State schools in those days also let children off to attend. It is more important than ever for Norfolk children to understand their County. In Suffolk, we manage to run the Suffolk Show during the May half-term. Though not ideal, perhaps the Royal Norfolk could be run on different days in that week.

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    T Doff

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • I think that we need to be clear as to exactly what this 'day off' is. It is actually one of the 5 teacher training Inset days which must be scheduled throughout the school year and I think it was sensible to coincide it with the Norfolk Show so that families have the option of attending it if they want to without being punished with an unauthorised absence. I know that lots of families at my child's school appreciate the opportunity to visit the show, and there is plenty to see and do which doesn't involve having to spend lots of money at the many commercial stands. From the dates which have been published It looks like the day previously scheduled to coincide with the Norfolk Show has been tagged onto the October half term which now extends to a week and a half rather than a week. I would far rather have to take a day off with my child in June when hopefully the weather is better, and have the opportunity to go to the Norfolk Show if I want to rather than having to take even more time off in one go at the end of October. I'd be interested to know how many parents apparently keep their children off school the following day as it's not something I've come across; is it really that big an issue? The other thing to bear in mind is that schools do not have to follow the county's dates anymore as each school now has the right to set their own term dates; so if parents feel strongly about it then they should make their views known by writing to their school's governing body.

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    Row71

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Obvious answer is hold it over to the Saturday!! I remember as a child being fascinated by engineering harvesters and all at shows. It should be compulsory to insight our children,, always a brilliant show, and aspiring for all. Gardens, engineering, clothes for Lady's ok my partner loves it, I,m more technical, how long can we get a tractor cat tread? Make it Saturday and have a fifth fold audience.... IMHO...ok I only go to see the largest HorsePower tractors.. Always a brilliant show!

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    Dave01

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • The Royal Norfolk Show is a traditional part of Norfolk life, all children should be given the opportunity to attend

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    catalonia13

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Holidays are one week or two weeks out of school, not the same as one day. Let them go to the show if they want.

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    Dave01

    Monday, March 31, 2014

  • Why can't the organisers and NCC see the obvious common sense solution. Hold it on a Saturday and Sunday? Children spend enough time out of school what with holidays, staff training days, strikes, teacher absenteeism etc.

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    smithrob

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

  • Oh dear...what a load of out dated nonsense. RNS being "educational"?? Oh please....its a giant, overpriced advertising showcase. If they really must insist of having this backward event each year then just have it at the weekend... Sadly its the likes of the RNS that keeps the image of the carrot crunchers alive....

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    Tootyfrooty

    Saturday, March 29, 2014

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