Councillors last night rejected the idea of hosting speedway at the Norfolk Showground, as promoters attempt to bring the sport back to Norwich.

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The vote came two months after a company called New Firs Ltd put forward plans to build a track at the eastern edge of the showground, by the former golf driving range.

Parish councillors voted by three votes to one against the principle of having the motorsport in Costessey.

The vote was suggested by councillor Tim East who opposes speedway at the site.

At Costessey Parish Council last night he called for a vote on whether councillors supported or opposed the principle of having speedway at the showground.

Mr East’s rejection was backed by two other councillors, with six councillors abstaining.

Katy Smith, one of the councillors to abstain, said there was not enough information about the track to make a decision yet.

Vice chairman of the council John Amis was the only one to vote for the track.

He said: “I’m in favour of speedway. On a Saturday night there is no traffic.”

Those opposing speedway at the meeting said the new track would increase traffic at the Longwater junction with the A47 and create extra noise, particularly for families moving into new homes planned at Lodge Farm which is opposite the site.

Councillor Reg Piesse said: “This activity is very noisy.

“I’m very concerned about the new development on Lodge Farm.”

But supporters argued the bikes would be far quieter than people believe and there would not be a noticeable increase in traffic at the Longwater junction.

The proposals have sparked fierce debate in Costessey with groups springing up for and against speedway on social networking site Facebook.

Promoters are still to apply for planning permission for the track, but unveiled their initial plans in July at the showground at an event attended by Norwich speedway legend Ove Fundin.

New Firs Ltd hopes to submit plans for a 480-seater stadium, heralding the return of speedway to Norwich for the first time since 1964.

If the plans are approved by South Norfolk Council, racing could be back at the track by the end of 2013.

•Do you have a story about Costessey for the Evening News? Contact reporter Tom Bristow on 01603772313 or email tom.bristow@archant.co.uk.

39 comments

  • I attended speedway at Reading for many years, and although I lived within a mile downwind of the stadium, the noise once a week was no problem. Outside the stadium it was no more than I could hear from the M4, about the same distance away, and a lot less continuous.

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    Harold

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • I have already had letter printed in the press revealing my name and address so I was not hiding then. Everyone on this site is anonymous and given the level of nasty comments I can quite see why we all wish to remain so.

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    SuitedNo4

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • I think they don't want any competition for Norwich City Football. The city and surrounding countryside are getting to a point where developers are winning permission to build in the most inappropriate places, developments get proposed with hotels and offices and retail, the suburbs keep on growing but no one seems to be doing much in the way of provision for leisure facilities for all these people. I suppose Norwich is not any worse than most cities the same size, but if there are 350,000 in the travel to work area then they are in the travel to leisure services area too.It beats me why a place bang on a major trunk road already developed for coping with a lot of cars should be turned down.Is it because Costessey thinks it is a pleb sport?

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    Daisy Roots

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Please don't think for one minute that Mr East is the peoples champion. I would wager my last pound that all of his campaigns, spin and press releases of the last few months on all Costessey issues, coincide with his aims for a third hat. I would be amazed if he doesn't approach his local party in the next few months to stand for County Council. I understand the chair and most of the pc were reluctant to vote on this (not enough reliable information available from either side) but Mr East wanted his headline and he has got it. As a democratically elected official it is a shame that he didn't stay inside the meeting and continue to represent his electorate. Instead without acknowledging the chair he left the chamber and chose to conduct a 15 minute debriefing with his supporters and Mr bristow outside the meeting.

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    Ash Lewis

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • what of the noise for various dance events, the Norfolk show and the A 47 traffic? I welcome Ms. Smith abstention, in principle. Not surprised at the lack of principle of twin hat cllr's.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Suited no.4 - Is that you Mr East?

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    robotsthatcare

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Tom231 I expect that it was many years ago that you lived near Foxhall Stadium and do you realise there is a law that speedway bikes have to be fitted with SILENCERS now and I have heard many motorcycles on the road that are louder than speedway bikes. Also if there is a speedway track the people buying properties at Lodge Farm (eventually) will know about any possible noise. They do not have to buy there.

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    Christopher Neave

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Tim East expressed the concerns of his electorate and that was his democratic right. The councils own planning guidelines for the showground clearly state that there should be no motorised sports. Therefore the planning application should be turned down. Costessey is now a developing residential area with more homes planned adjacent to the proposed speedway. This circuit needs to be placed in a non residential area suitable for this type of activity that has adequate infrastructure to cope.

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    Longsufferingpublic

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • A BIG NO to the Speedway at the Showground in Costessey because there is enough conjestion on Norfolk show days so why would we want more Noise and pollution.

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    sibs Wesley

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Ash - He already is a county councillor!

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    robotsthatcare

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • As a child I lived 3 miles from the Foxhall Stadium in Ipswich and depending on wind direction the noise on summer Thursday evenings did keep me awake!

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    Tom231

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • The traffic concerns aren't that the A47 can't cope, rather the Longwater exchange, which is the sole point of egress for Queens Hills. As for the noise...concerts and other noisy events occur a handful of times a year. This is something that already occurred when many local residents moved in. Speedway noise would be at least 2 nights a week (training nights plus race nights), for several months of the year. Hardly the same thing. I'm pretty sure I read that speedway bikes' noise regulations cap the bikes at around 96dB. This apparently is the same as a concert. I can hear concerts clearly from the back of queens hills, over 1.5 miles away. If I'm wrong about the noise regs, then apologies.

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    MJH

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Very true, nobody is forced to move into the Lodge Farm Development. The current residents of Easton should have a greater voice. As has been said there are currently events held at the showground throughtout the year, these events surely generate more traffic and noise than the speedway ever would. Time for Costessey Parish Council to revoke permission for the County Showground on the premise that it prevents them selling licences to develop. I am unlikely to ever attend a speedway meeting as I am not interested in the sport.

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    George Ezekial

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • hear hear david106 it does make you wonder when one objection claims it would upset families of the "proposed" site at lodge farm how can they speak for somebody who doesnt exist. still i suppose they have to be seen to be important and object to a good use of an open space. nimby,s again

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    i am mostly wrong??

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Costessey parish council turns down Speedway at the Showground. My , that was s surprise.

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    Rorping

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • this is my backyard, as a Costessey resident for over 40 years i support speedway coming to the showground.Mr East does not represent the people, he is protecting his own interests and representing a loud tiny minority, this fact i am sure he will discover when it come to election time. then without a doubt a change of mind will happen

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    Steve Duck

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • Tim East expressed the concerns of his electorate and that was his democratic right. The councils own planning guidelines for the showground clearly state that there should be no motorised sports. Therefore the planning application should be turned down. Costessey is now a developing residential area with more homes planned adjacent to the proposed speedway. This circuit needs to be placed in a non residential area suitable for this type of activity that has adequate infrastructure to cope.

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    Longsufferingpublic

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Suited4, you make an entirely reasonable point about trying to raise the tone of debate, yet you slip from your perch on the moral high ground when you complain about others posting under a pseudonym whilst you do so yourself. For the record, I would happily have a speedway track in my backyard, but the industrial units 40 yards from my bedroom window mean that isn't going to happen. Perhaps Mr East could address the following quiestions: 1) Of the people you canvassed in Costessey, how many were pro and how many anti this development? 2) One of Britain's best known profeesional speedway riders lives around 100 yards away from you. As he is one of your constituents and an because he knows more about speedway than everyone else in Costessey added together, you have spoken to him haven't you? 3) If traffic is considered an issue, how many vehicles would you expect to attend a speedway meeting compared to those that would use the junction during rush hour? OK, I'm a fair man, so here are a couple of questions you could legitimately raise which may potentially throw a spanner in the works: 1) how does this application sit with current planning guidelines? 2) Why did the speedway authorities deny Steve Ribbons a license to take over at Mildenhall?

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    robotsthatcare

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • Tim East expressed the concerns of his electorate and that was his democratic right. The councils own planning guidelines for the showground clearly state that there should be no motorised sports. Therefore the planning application should be turned down. Costessey is now a developing residential area with more homes planned adjacent to the proposed speedway. This circuit needs to be placed in a non residential area suitable for this type of activity that has adequate infrastructure to cope.

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    Longsufferingpublic

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Yet again we have the same old story about speedway and the noise,It's about time the this council find out the facts,Not be swayed byMr Tim east,He lives in the past when it concerns todays modern speedway meetings,All speedway bikes have to have SILENCERS fitted thus reducing the noise,All so the meetings would be no more than 2 hours once aweek,And the people wanting to build this track have looked into this with great detail,A earth bank would be built to the Lodge farm side ,Which is 1 mile away,Plus the lighting would be kept low at the site,So it would not been seen to much,from this develoment,As for the traffic i think it's a joke, As i dont think around 1.500 people attending a speedway meeting at this site would be to much traffic on the A47 road to cope with, It seems to me that Pop Concerts (VERY LOUD ),Derby big wheel destruction events,And of course the Royal Norfolk Show attended by many more people and cars over 4 days 8pm till late is of no such a problem for Mr Tim East,Come on be fair let somebody from this council stand up against this out of date councillor,Who seems hell bent on not wanting speedway at the showground,But is happy to let the show ground endure much more traffic & noise at other events at the show ground,But Not Speedway,Lets hope for more common sense when this gets heard again,If they appeal against this one man council desicion,Michael.

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    mrbluesky

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • This location is totally unsuitable for a speedway for a multitude of reasons, all of which have been discussed. Any councillor worth his position must represent the views of the local people who put him on the council as their spokesman. This is what Tim East is doing. It is worth noting that the letters that contain most of the personal comments, rudeness and general abuse are from supporters of the speedway.(Most of whom live miles away from the noise, traffic problems etc that will arise). Most local residents are behind him 100%. Can we invent a new acronym PIIYBY – put it in your back yard.

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    SuitedNo4

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • The speedway track is a great idea for improving the options for sports spectating for all of Norfolk's residents (we don't all want to watch football, especially with its issues about racism and diversity). It speaks volumes that only 3 parish councillors voted against it. Good luck to the people behind this development.

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    john smith

    Saturday, September 29, 2012

  • Whilst it would be reasonable for someone to make an informed decision, based upon facts, this is clearly not what Tim East has done. And how competent does that make someone listed the Liberal Democrat's shadow spokesperson for Planning, Transport, the Environment and Waste for that role????? Lets be clear, there are currently no plans submitted, no environment evaluation available & there is a total lack of any form of concrete facts about this plan as yet. But Tim East feels capable of calling for the council to oppose it!!!!!!

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    el84

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • If you stand in the car park at longwater on any afternoon and listen to the traffic noise i doubt it will be any noiser than speedway once a week . Tim esat is no more than a busy body who needs to get a life and let other people have one too.

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    david106

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • I accept that was about 40 years ago and things may be different now. However noise does travel. I live in Costessey about 4 miles from the showground and the noise from the recent pop concert at the Showground could be clearly heard, it didn't bother me but if I only lived a mile away it may have done. People already live in Easton, what effect would speedway have on them? I would suggest that before any permission is given then studies should be conducted around exsisting speedway tracks and residents living within 2 miles consulted.

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    Tom231

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Tim East expressed the concerns of his electorate and that was his democratic right. The councils own planning guidelines for the showground clearly state that there should be no motorised sports. Therefore the planning application should be turned down. Costessey is now a developing residential area with more homes planned adjacent to the proposed speedway. This circuit needs to be placed in a non residential area suitable for this type of activity that has adequate infrastructure to cope.

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    Longsufferingpublic

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Hiding behind anonymous user names such as yours, suiteNo4, soon to become No5? Maybe parishioners should seek signatures for a parish referendum to ensure that Tim Easts good name does not get dragged any further down as it already is? what do you think, the parish council could add a few other issues to it as well, for example whether residents agree with the imposition of incineration in Norfolk.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • Yet again we have the same old story about speedway and the noise,It's about time the this council find out the facts,Not be swayed byMr Tim east,He lives in the past when it concerns todays modern speedway meetings,All speedway bikes have to have SILENCERS fitted thus reducing the noise,All so the meetings would be no more than 2 hours once aweek,And the people wanting to build this track have looked into this with great detail,A earth bank would be built to the Lodge farm side ,Which is 1 mile away,Plus the lighting would be kept low at the site,So it would not been seen to much,from this develoment,As for the traffic i think it's a joke, As i dont think around 1.500 people attending a speedway meeting at this site would be to much traffic on the A47 road to cope with, It seems to me that Pop Concerts (VERY LOUD ),Derby big wheel destruction events,And of course the Royal Norfolk Show attended by many more people and cars over 4 days 8pm till late is of no such a problem for Mr Tim East,Come on be fair let somebody from this council stand up against this out of date councillor,Who seems hell bent on not wanting speedway at the showground,But is happy to let the show ground endure much more traffic & noise at other events at the show ground,But Not Speedway,Lets hope for more common sense when this gets heard again,If they appeal against this one man council desicion,Michael.

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    mrbluesky

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Mr Bluesky and markt74 have made valid commonsense comments. We live a mile from the showground and hear the pop music, fireworks and all the other event noises that go on, speedway is not our cup of tea either but others like it and want to enjoy it. The showground for years stood empty other than the few days of the agricultural show, a wonderful facility that is now being used for all tastes, why these dinosaurs do not get their heads out of the sand and move with the times, do their research on the event, the facilities, noise or whatever instead of adopting a NIMBY attitude I don't know. We have lived here 40 years, seen lots of changes, so come on Costessey PC let people enjoy life, all the opposing arguments are a red herring, or we would not have anything happening at the showground but trees and bushes only to admire!

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    blackdog2

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • I live on the lodge farm estate close to the showground. Let them build it, provided they take care of the traffic side of things and address the noise issues. We had that sundown festival thing last month, not many people were moaning about the traffic then, or the noise that went on until the early hours! Oh, but I suppose that is different though was it? You cant have one rule for one and not the other.

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    markt74

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • I accept that was about 40 years ago and things may be different now. However noise does travel. I live in Costessey about 4 miles from the showground and the noise from the recent pop concert at the Showground could be clearly heard, it didn't bother me but if I only lived a mile away it may have done. People already live in Easton, what effect would speedway have on them? I would suggest that before any permission is given then studies should be conducted around exsisting speedway tracks and residents living within 2 miles consulted.

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    Tom231

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • the show attract between 70-90 thousand people over 2 days. if speedway got 1500 people i think i would be suprised. this is not the glory days of the firs. on this basis we should stop the show and all other events on the showground. it would then be good building land to create more traffic

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    Steve Duck

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • Stupid me, I've got my wires crossed. It must be reselection he is up for then. I assume after this episode Mr East will not be allowed to vote if this does ever reach the South Norfolk planning commitee. The state British speedway is in even if it ever did get off the ground, it would probably close down after a year or 2. The clubs up for saleunder threat of closure or where management have talked about getting out of the sport in the last few weeks alone include Buxton, Peterborough, Glasgow, Sheffield, Workington and Mr Chapman at Lynn.

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    Ash Lewis

    Friday, September 28, 2012

  • i agree that the ban on noisy speedway was a good one. who needs it?

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    bookworm

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Councillor Tim East is Norfolk's biggest Nimby. Your home is 400 yards from the proposed stadium isn't it Timothy? Perhaps you could state publicly how many of your electorate you consulted before this vote?

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    robotsthatcare

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • No - robotsthat care - I am not Tim East - he does not feel the need to hide behind anonymous usernames in order to make his comments. And whilst a lively and informed debate is a good part of a democracy let's keep it civil and good natured and stick to the facts rather than making it personal and, at times, abusive. That does no one any favours!

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    SuitedNo4

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

  • Nimby councillor busy bodies. So six of them couldn't be bothered voting, one did and his 2 mates supported him.

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    ml

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • It is a shame that the vote has gone against, as Speedway is in need of a revival. As vintage motorcycle enthusiast, this vote would have got my approval had I have been consulted. I can understand fully however, why the noise would be issue. Hopefully a more suitable location can be found in the future. Regards, Whiley.

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    Whiley Boy

    Wednesday, September 26, 2012

  • Ingo, I think you'll find that Mr East is anti incinerator

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    robotsthatcare

    Thursday, September 27, 2012

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