Warning over services as council seeks £26m contingency fund for incinerator

George Nobbs, leader of Norfolk County Council. Picture: Denise Bradley George Nobbs, leader of Norfolk County Council. Picture: Denise Bradley

Monday, December 2, 2013
6:28 PM

Frontline services in Norfolk are at “serious risk” as the county council seeks to bring forward £15m of savings for a contingency fund to foot the bill if planning permission for the controversial King’s Lynn incinerator is refused.

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Norfolk County Council faces having to pay £26m if the proposed plant at Saddlebow is not given permission by communities and local government secretary Eric Pickles, and agreed last month to create a contingency fund to cover that cost by April 2015.

The council’s cabinet heard that means finding £11.2m in savings by the end of this financial year and a further £15m in 2014-15 through the council’s Putting People First consultation – taking the total savings needed in that year from £66.5m to £81.5m.

Council leader George Nobbs said the fund was necessary so the authority was prepared for the possibility of planning permission refusal, with a decision expected by mid-January.

“This way, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got the money.

“There never were any easy cuts. Such easy cuts as there were were made when the previous regime cut £140m-odd,” he said.

“We are well into very painful cuts already but they would not be as devastating were it not for the fact that the Norfolk MPs persuaded the government to take £169m of credits away from us.”

The £11.2m to be found by April is made up of 2.2m from lower-than-expected spending in 2013-14, £4m transferred from the authority’s general balances, and £5m by cutting spending on other council services.

They include £1.2m from the purchase of healthcare, £1.3m from deferring borrowing until next year, cancelling a £500,000 investment in community transport, and deferring a £400,000 community fund for a year.

The additional £15m could be found by bringing forward savings from later years, or finding extra cuts to make in 2014-15. Department managers have been asked to re-examine their budgets and report back to the cabinet on January 27.

Steve Morphew, cabinet member for finance, corporate and personnel, said the £26m fund was equivalent to the annual budget for Norfolk Fire and Rescue Service and admitted that finding £81.5m would mean unpalatable cuts.

“That’s a figure that keeps me awake at night. We are not just out of easy areas, once we get to that number we are into areas of serious risk,” he said.

Peter Timmins, the authority’s head of finance, said: “This is not an easy task. If it was that easy we would have done it already.”

83 comments

  • No one has said it flooded. As already explained to you, the weather conditions were not correct to trap the water in the Ouse. I suggest you check the conditions for 1953. I see George Nobbs has claimed in his letter to the SOS that the funding is in place. Now where have NCC laid their hand on that, when they were crying the possibility of bankruptcy a few weeks ago.

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    Bikerboy

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • I find it hard to accept that decent people in politics tell lies. This wondeful leader is no exception. I had no idea he was only on £1,000 per week. Mind you he does get a free telephone and free calls at home, a free computer and internet plus ink,paper, envelopes, postage, petrol, expenses and whatever else which helps a bit I guess. Build the incinerator and rejoice. Worth every penny. Good man is Nobbs. I like him.

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    TO55ERLONG

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Mr Long, dont show your ignorance, read what Defra said to NCC, its widely available, the withdrawl of the PFI is nothing to do with any anti, or MP, just the failure of CW to gain planning consent, with every assistence from NCC, by a contracted deadine! Mr Pickles is having a bit of a headache on this one, I understand he, or rather his advisors, have still not decided and have had to ask all parties for further comment, soon be Christmas I wonder if the decision will be sent out on Christmas Eve?

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    Canary Boy

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Waste of time for the campaign trying to raise money. For what? I hope they return all that dosh to the rightful owners when the planning consent is approved in January. Bet they keep it all instead. They might all go for a few nice meals in town. Who knows?

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    Arthur Pewty

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • I have to agree about the Anti Incinerator groups attitudes. They do appear to attack anyone who refuses to accept their version of things. Instead of reasoned argument they always resort to childish name calling. Are those affiliated to that group all under twelve one might ask? When I say all I mean the single person who uses dozens of names in an attempt to give the general impression of a big campaign where none exists. Nice try but obvious.

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    Roger The Cabin Boy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Alert View on Map Flood status last changed: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:13:00 GMT Tidal River Great Ouse from Denver to Kings Lynn and the coast from Kings Lynn to Hunstanton The Thursday evening and Friday morning high tides will be affected by strong winds

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    Choice

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Millions in tax payers money lost because of a well intended but very silly anti incinerator campaign that lacked leadership and direction. About time people in local government stood up to this rabble.

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    Stanley T

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • The tide has spared King's Lynn by about 2 to 3 feet and is on the ebb. Interestingly the EA's advice seems in conflict with that touted at the public inquiry. Was the EA using out of date records for the inquiry? AD 1028 perhaps?

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    Kadmos

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • All this expense and all down to those anti campaigners. They are costing us all a fortune. When will they stop?

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    Inactive account

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • George Nobbs in this photo has a very canny resemblence to Derrick Murphy. Blue tie and some hair dye will set the look. Vote Labour get the Cons.

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    Jack

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Well we have to save a few quid when we have this anti incinerator mob chucking our money down the drain every few months. I am frightened at what crack pot scheme they will come up with next. Obsession is a terrible thing.

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    Stanley T

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Don`t get annoyed. These silly remarks all emanate from one person (D). I too have read his disgusting comments about the flooded Norfolk village. He thinks he`s funny but personally I feel sorry for him. Remember, what goes around comes around. I expect this comment to be pulled because of political newspaper influence.

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    democrat

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • Forgot to say George Nobbs was the reason for the delay by calling for the public inquiry. He wonders why the PFI was rejected because of time scale.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • I see that various members of the Downham Distorter's Club are still using Bill as their on-line fall guy here. What a mug he is for believing everything they shovel into his ears. Tess Tickles indeed.

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    Jeffs Wet Lettuce

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Warning View on Map Flood status last changed: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:00:00 GMT Tidal River Great Ouse along Kings Lynn river frontage The forecast tide level is 5.83m. The forecast wind direction is West, North Westerly. The forecast wind strength is Force 7.

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    Choice

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The last several posts are total rubbish!

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    maryjane

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • A few quid raised today. The fight goes on. I`m expecting the announcement from Pickles very soon now.

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    democrat

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • It has all gone quiet from our 9 MPs in asking for Westminster to help us out financially. Can they give us a progress report, this side of this Christmas?

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    bedoomed

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Looks like the anti crew have been caught out again. All that water and not a drop around the site of the incinerator. Proves that it is the best place to build it after all. No doubt a full report will be off on Monday to Mr Pickles. I would say that this vital evidence is game set and match. It was the last thing the campaigners were clinging to and even that has failed. Talk about an unlucky bunch. Don't buy any lottery tickets you lot.

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    Inactive account

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • The incinerator contract was signed in February 2012 with no provision made for planning failure. So the 29th June, 2012 County Planning Meeting was a sh.am (think of all those thousands of public representations) or those responsible for the contract were income.petent or both. The Rt Hon Eric Pickles, SOS was right to call this in. I understand he has taken the decision back from Nick Boles. Further representations have been made by the key players in the Public Inquiry. The SOS has given until 12th December 2013 for all sides to comment. I sincerely hope that NCC’s attempt to scarem.onger with the self-inflicted consequences of their prematurely signed contract will backfire. Jonathan Acton Davis QC, can we see your overdue report into these she.nanigans please?

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    Kadmos

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • The tide mark shows quite clearly how close to jeopardy the Saddlebow site really was during the flooding the other night - once you've had a toddle down there to check for yourself, you might like to call in at the Conservancy Board and ask them about what the wind was doing during high tide - I checked and it did indeed drop, saving Lynn from a great deal of disaster and misery. But lets not let facts stand in the way of your usual rubbish, eh?

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    Fenscape

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • The Environmental agency was worried about tidal surge in the Saddlebow area! “Warning View on Map Flood status last changed: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:00:00 GMT Tidal River Great Ouse along Kings Lynn river frontage The forecast tide level is 5.83m. The forecast wind direction is West, North Westerly. The forecast wind strength is Force 7” With this information to hand proves Cory Wheelabrator has submitted wrong information on the planning application as the Willows site is Flood Zone 3a. The Bottom ash lagoons at the proposed burner site is inadequate because of overtopping. Part of Tuesday Market place was flooded even with flood gate defences. Ironic the Corn Exchange where the first day and last days of the public inquiry was held was flooded!

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    LynBin

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • What a load of lies the anti campaign told about the Saddlebow site flooding. We have just had the worst flood threat of all time and not so much as a damp leaf on the proposed building plot. They have nothing left now.

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    Sherlock

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • I would not send my children to school should Eric Pickles give planning permission and I would imagine many other families would do the same. Why should the children of Lynn be treated like experimental guinea pigs, so that greedy shareholders can make a mint out of their misery. No thank you 65.516 people said No.

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    Jack

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Please forgive my spelling mistooks, but this system appears to reject correctly spelt posts.

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    Kadmos

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • You`ve been relatively quiet recently D and now your rants have started up again. Full moon?

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    democrat

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Stop telling fibs! The correspondence, widely circulated around Norfolk including to Dan Grimmer, between Defra and NCC clearly shows beyond any doubt why the pfi award was withdrawn. It was nothing at all to do with any MP or opponent. CW failed to obtain planning consent within a legally binding timescale therefore a breach of the terms and conditions signed upto to gain the award was made and the award void. Additionally defra have carried out a review of national waste arrisings and 2020 landfill diversion targets and the Norfolk project is no longer needed. How can trust in county hall ever be regained when all the cabinet can do is falsely blame MPs for this when the facts are in the public domain, obtained from defra via an foi of all correspondence between june and oct this year.

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    Canary Boy

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Peter Timmins hardly covered himself in glory at his previous job - no wonder NCC snapped him up given the poor standard of senior officers they are used to.....

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    Fenscape

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Just shows how much Jenny & Webbed know about the Ouse tides then. Nothing. Thanks Democrat, I forgot to add in to my original comment that the wind had dropped to to virtually nothing by the time of high tide, but you are correct.

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    Bikerboy

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • Dear oh dear, more bull from Bill using his usual myriad of disguises. I will be over at the Xmas Fayre tomorrow and hope to ask the campaigners whether they have received emails from you 'every day for the last two years' as you have claimed. I'm betting that the answer will be a resounding 'No'.

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    Scores on the Daws

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • This is more scaremongering without applying the brain. What the cabinet should offer CW is a good will guesture of 5 million for their troubles. Anything else would be regarded, and seen as, a public local Government being defrauded, or fleeced, by a backward US company that has a raucous environmental record. Why would CW wanted to be known as such when their aim is to provide a service? Why would a company with a poor 50% successrate want to blacken their name any further and undermine its other endeavours and prospects. Maybe Ms. Hannam, who keeps coming up with this 'arms flailing, be very scared' approach can answer the questions above, because nobody is buying her spin anymore.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Is this the same central government who told NCC that the incinerator wasn't needed to meet EU landfill targets?

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    Bikerboy

    Monday, December 9, 2013

  • Local authorities are in danger of breaching their statutory responsibilities across the board if they cut services to the level proposed.It has come to a point when service users are forced to go to the courts for legal remedy.They must know they will be legally challenged if they do not comply with their their statutory duties at every opportunity.

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    Peter Watson

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Unless the county council is prepared to relinquish its' statutory duties,there can be no other alternative than a council tax rise,paying the price for the incompetence of the previous Tory administration,another Tory tax.

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    Peter Watson

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Right let's get this straight. There is an ideal opportunity coming up to assess who are the good guys. The QC is due to give his report. Will we, the public, see this report in its entirety (not forgetting we paid for it) or will those lovely fragrant creatures who have done nothing wrong in their saintly lives, save to polish their halos a little too enthusiastically, hide the report from us. Well what is it to be? We are waiting. A truthful and unafraid group of councillors and employees would make the announcement now. Well? We are waiting.

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    alecto

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Forgot to say George Nobbs was the reason for the delay by calling for the public inquiry. He wonders why the PFI was rejected because of time scale.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • George Nobbs wrote a letter to the Lynn News supporting then candidate for Clenchwarton Alexander Kemp (Labour) explaining “The now infamous incinerator”. He was bragging he was the person that initiated the public inquiry. Like many I wrote to various government departments explaining the above facts and pasted media links as verification.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • There’s an interesting FOI saga going on concerning Timmins and a whistleblower at his previous position at Wirral Council, who it would seem don’t want to play ball. Google “Timmins report and letter” and read the ‘what do you know’ post. Welcome to NCC Mr Timmins, you should fit in well with this shower.

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    Honest John

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Forgot to say George Nobbs was the reason for the delay by calling for the public inquiry. He wonders why the PFI was rejected because of time scale.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • I think you will find that this was not the worst flood warning of all time you twit. What it was was nature's shot across the bows. We do not want another 1953 episode do we?

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    alecto

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • It does not look good for Cory Wheelabrator for insurance now the Environmental agency has put a critical flood warning area from Lynn to Denver on the 5th of December. It is not just about the building but potential devastation from raw waste and toxic ash. It is all down to risk factor and insurers have to take notice of the environmental agencies warnings. Like Russian roulette and best policy is to not issue insurance for this site or load the policy with a £2 million premium per month to be on the safe side as it is a bad risk.

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    Alan Allan

    Monday, December 9, 2013

  • The truth is that the pfi was withdrawn because of a breach of the terms and conditions of the grant was breached nothing to do with MPs. Why was my last post removed it was a statement of facts with reference to indesputable evidence. One way or another the truth will get out and then those who have misled will be shown in a very bad light.

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    Canary Boy

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • So, we have a Leader of NCC being economical with the truth with respect to the reason behind the PFI credits withdrawal, and a Finance head - if, indeed, he deserves that title - that seems to have 'questions' over his tenure at Wirral, and has misled the rest of NCC council over claims of potential bankruptcy. I can't think of any reason why this administration and certain officers should remain in their post. Can anybody else? (Dic%ens included).

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    Scooby

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • And which part of the Saddlebow site flooded then ?.....................In your own time.........

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    Webbed Feet

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • The anti mob are out again doing their thing. Notice how they insult anyone who does not support them? The did the same with Council staff and Officers. All in my letters to Eric recently with some interesting clips from this very site going back quite some time. Very nasty stuff and no way to treat government officials or politicians. Another bunch of lead balloons for the campaign.

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    John Fisher

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • How George looks so different from his opposition days. I remember George in his Labour attire. Now moved on and a very good leader makeover indeed. Funny how his e mails to me have ceased also! Never mind, good luck George, what goes round comes round.

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    ron cornell

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • The tide has spared King's Lynn by about 2 to 3 feet and is on the ebb. Interestingly the EA's advice seems in conflict with that touted at the public inquiry. Was the EA using out of date records for the inquiry? AD 1028 perhaps?

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    Kadmos

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • It's no good blaming the MP's, blame those that signed the contract. As Fenscape rightly says, Nobbs knew the PFI's were under review in June, so why wait till now.

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    Bikerboy

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Stanley T.Thank you for your compliments about the anti campaigners! It is rather immature of you to castigate us in this way. Speaking for myself I am not silly, disorganised or misled. I like many others joined this campaign with eyes and mind wide open to all contributors, however, it was interesting from the outset to discover that a) the officers thought they were dealing with a load of rabble rousing protesters, (hence rthe heavy security at County Hall for a Council Meeting) b)they had the temerity to think we were brainless because they were so used to dealing with Councillors who were and who had to be spoonfed and even n some cases, probably the majority, to have them write letters on their behalf and who were too lazy to find out how to deal with Council procedures and the like. This Mary Poppins attitude is all very well in the Nursery. On top of that we have Councillors who don'tcan't make sense of even the smallest problem and are very pleased with themselves when they put more than three words together which make sense.There are some excellent councillors however they are denied any position where their intelligence might be used in a conflict with officers. Then we have the all swinging, all dancing marionettes with wide grins and a' Look at me, I'm a Councillor' attitude which says I have the power!. It is not difficult to discover these. So, Stanley T be careful what you say about these poor anti-incinerator fools, This tightly- knit bunch has more intelligence than the majority of Councillors serving the public put together and they may well win.

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    maryjane

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Same old, same old Mr Marks. What would be novel is for you to expand on what these handful of supporters have done to ‘decimate’ the campaign, to make it even easier, just name one. As for Schicklgruber’s comment, well, it’s just same old, same old.

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    Honest John

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • Planning agreement will be reached there is little doubt on that score. Central government has said it will not interfere with local decisions and the decision to build was voted on recently in a fair and open way so on balance the build should go ahead and the agreement to continue will be granted.

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    George Peters

    Monday, December 9, 2013

  • It is the same central government that has openly said it needs to rethink a lot of silly 'green' ideas and concentrate on reality.

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    George Peters

    Monday, December 9, 2013

  • Ha ha ha. The campaigners are claiming that the only reason the proposed site did not flood was that the wrong type of wind direction ! They are beginning to sound like the train companies who blame delays on the wrong type of leaves falling on the lines. Talk about desperation setting in. They get more hilarious every day. Any more gems like that?

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    Webbed Feet

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • Dear Alecto, I am afraid the QC's report is currently being subjected to Government strength indelible redactor pens... I am wondering whether it will be considered fit to show the cabinet, group leaders and scrutiny leads unedited. It might upset them.

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    Kadmos

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Yes, Jonathan Davies QC..lets see your report!

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    Scooby

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Canary Boy; “Mr obscene names, you may have written to ministers, presumably using your real name, however Ministers have been sent printed copies of the posts from the EDP in full and have seen your rants under your school boy filth!” ..........Looks like Canary Boy fell for it then. Fancy walking into that old trick. One born every minute they say. Keep sending them son. Lord knows what the Sec of States Office makes of you lot by now. Same as everyone else I should think. What a catastrophe of a campaign. Still onwards and downwards. Priceless.

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    Pugh Bickley

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The public have never been asked and dont agree with the incinerator so sack the councillor who agreed to this signing into a contract with chory.

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    job

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Glad the anti mob have raised another sad sum of loose change. Perhaps they can donate it to the people of Norfolk towards replacing the millions they have cost us all.

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    The-Blue-Flag

    Saturday, December 7, 2013

  • All I can say is that I wholeheartedly support Lynn Borough Council in their righteous pursuit of local representation by saying NO to an incinerator anywhere in Norfolk. Nobbs is the worst thing to happen to our county since Murphy was found guilty of violating standards - why can't we have a Leader at NCC who is prepared to stand by their election manifesto for once?

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    Scores on the Daws

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Alecto and Bikerboy are correct. King`s Lynn was lucky last week. Not only was the wind direction `wrong` for flooding the wind speed dropped before the high tide. The cause of global warming may be debated but there is no doubt that global air temperatures are rising, hence the sea level rise. River flooding is described by how often a level in a particular river is reached. Hence a 100 year flood (occurs every 100 years on average) is a much higher level than say a 10 year flood (occurs every 10 years on average). Statistically a 100 year flood level occurs once every 100 years and so on, but statistics rely on past measures. The game has changed because of global warming so a 100 year flood is no longer as infrequent. It is now more common (and hence will in future no longer be called a 100 year flood) because of the sea level rise and will become more and more common. Hence expect future flooding to overtop defences at some point because they have been constructed to only withstand floods up to a certain year level. The site of the incinerator will be affected at some point but my biggest concern is that the chimney will spew dangerous contaminants over King`s Lynn. Some (one or two posters only) on this forum don`t care about how this will affect inhabitants, just as they gloat over people who have been affected by coastal flooding. Time to search your soul mate, time is running out for you. As for those Labour councillors who voted for it recently, I hope they are proud of the fact that the most affected area of the town will be South Lynn, one of its poorest!

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    democrat

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • Here's an interesting thought - has anyone actually asked the people from Cory Wheelabrator how much it would cost to terminate? After all, they seem to have been present at every council meeting and inquiry session since 2011 - perhaps they've just been constantly visible in county hall to remind George who's REALLY in charge?

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    Fenscape

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • All this expense is down to those anti campaigners? No it’s not actually. NCC opened their own can of worms when they chose to press ahead with an incinerator in West Norfolk. Despite already knowing there was overwhelming opposition to it NCC then signed the contract with all its financial implications without making any provisions in the budget for the compensation payments. NCC still failed to make provisions when Mr Pickles called it in last year, knowing the Planning Longstop Date would not be met and the PFIs potentially withdrawn. Whether this failure was through neg.ligence or arro.gance is immaterial, officials and members concerned, including present replacements for those who have already jumped ship, are not fit for purpose. So when will they all stop? When all those involved have been held accountable, all those operating at County Hall know the definition of honesty and transparency, and are acting in the interests of the people of Norfolk.

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    Honest John

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Simple solution George. Sell the Willows Saddlebow site!

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    Alan Allan

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Pickles has heard about the dodgy polls, the name calling and the attempts by these campaigners to try and topple local government so they can get into power. (another dodgy poll today hijacked by the campaign) Eric has given NCC time to give full details. Quite right too. Can’t have a bunch of trouble makers wrecking the County.

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    Magwitch

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • Building what Bill.Patel - a new flood defence? and is 'Pickle fellow' the local chutney man who is doing a grand job with his onions?

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    disolushund

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • When this is all over and other newspapers have exposed the goings on in Norfolk we will want to know why the EDP has missed one of the biggest outrages in local government this century and right in their backyard. Shame on you.

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    alecto

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Is the Peter Timmins quoted above who says it will be difficult to deal with the same Peter Timmins who said, prior to the October Council meeting, that the Council would place itself into bankruptcy if it voted against the incinerator? Did he not try to 'frighten' councilors into making what he saw as the 'right' decision? What faith can we or councilors have in him and surely if it can be resolved now, it could have been then too? Only in the gaga land of NCC could he remain in post!

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    andy

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Peter Ness is entitled to his view but Honest John shows himself up as usual. Typical campaigners remark. No need for the pathetic insults of course but that's the anti campaigners for you. Totally incapable of hearing another view but their own. No wonder the campaign has been such a failure with this sort of supporter. Over before it started. Poor Mr Knights. All that hard work and he has this lot to contend with.

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    Mr A. Schicklgruber

    Friday, December 6, 2013

  • So you think all the councillors are bright and clever. Careful, that bloke in a white coat behind you has got a great big butterfly net.

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    alecto

    Wednesday, December 4, 2013

  • D, remember the song `There`s a place for us`? There is a place for you, at the top of a Christmas tree along with your stories. PP will not be given. Watch this space.

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    democrat

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • Another classic entry into the 'Rotten Boroughs' in Private Eye. George 'Derrick Murphy' Nobbs has lost the plot...again...vote of no confidence..? and as for Timmins....couldn't be more misleading...

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    Scooby

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Forgot to say George Nobbs was the reason for the delay by calling for the public inquiry. He wonders why the PFI was rejected because of time scale.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • George Nobbs wrote a letter to the Lynn News supporting then candidate for Clenchwarton Alexander Kemp (Labour) explaining “The now infamous incinerator”. He was bragging he was the person that initiated the public inquiry. Like many I wrote to various government departments explaining the above facts and pasted media links as verification.

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    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • The environmental agency assured us there will be no tidal surges at Kings Lynn for 75 years! Severe Warning View on Map Flood status last changed: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:34:00 GMT The North Norfolk Coast at Wells Quay The forecast high water is due at 8:00 pm on Thursday 5th December 2013. The predicted astronomical tide level is 2.960 m AODN. The forecast surge height is 1.896 m. The forecast tide level is 4.856 m AODN. The forecast wind direction is North West. The forecast wind strength is force 7.

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    Choice

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • So what part around the proposed site flooded then...............? Oh yes.....none of it. All that rubbish from the campaigners as usual comes to nothing.

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    Removed User

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • Hardly the worst flooding threat of all time. Sea levels continue to rise, which is why this surge was higher than previous ones. Another 20 years and it will be even higher. Any one who lives near the Gt Ouse knows it needs a North Easterly wind to trap a surge for the ultimate threat in KL. Thursday's was a NW wind. But then as some people here are so full of ...

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    Bikerboy

    Sunday, December 8, 2013

  • Don't just sack - prosecute those responsible! The whole endeavour stinks to high heaven - CW's side too. The full truth will never be known but it would make one hell of a story if it ever was!

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    Cyril the Canary

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • Dear oh dear - telling porkies again George? Canary Boy is right, the applicant ran out of time and the credits lapsed. Nobbs knew this was on the cards back in June so why didn't he pull his finger out and do something about reallocating finances before he got as far as the charade of full council at the end of October, a full 5 months later? Maybe our councillors should be looking as why the contract was signed on the basis of the PFI award before planning permission was awarded rather than looking to lay the blame at someone else's door? It seems that not even Mike Jackson can walk on water after all....

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    Fenscape

    Monday, December 2, 2013

  • The incinerator contract was signed in February 2012 with no provision made for planning failure. So the 29th June, 2012 County Planning Meeting was a sham (think of all those thousands of public representations) or those responsible for the contract were incompetent or both. The Rt Hon Eric Pickles, SOS was right to call this in. I understand he has taken the decision back from Nick Boles. Further representations have been made by the key players in the Public Inquiry. The SOS has given until 12th December 2013 for all sides to comment. I sincerely hope that NCC’s attempt to scaremonger with the self-inflicted consequences of their prematurely signed contract will backfire. Jonathan Acton-Davis QC, can we see your overdue report into these shenanigans please?

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    Kadmos

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • You been down there tonight to check it then Phil? No, thought not!

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    Bikerboy

    Thursday, December 5, 2013

  • The way that the contract was constructed and the subsequent actions by both employees and councillors should be a matter for the Serious Fraud Office. What's that you say? A complaint has already gone in? Good.

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    alecto

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • Chaps, forget about NCC knowing in back in June, they knew from the T&Cs the PFI was dependent on getting planning permission by the due date, therefore they must have known the day Pickles called it in last September that they would breach one of the conditions and could lose the PFI. They certainly knew when they asked for a RPP in January.

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    Honest John

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

  • I too was a recipient of numerous phone calls from Gnobbs asking for support for Alex Kemp, his spin on the matter being that she would be the right candidate to fight the incinerator. Well George, she was. But you weren't and I heartily applaud John Martin's suggestion that you and your halfwitted cabinet resign because you all lied to the electorate in May. And as for Monsoon, please can someone do us all a favour and deselect him. Having him as a Councillor is like having a county wide attack of scabies.

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    alecto

    Tuesday, December 3, 2013

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