Video: Action plan for Norwich’s clubbing district

Prince of Wales Road in Norwich. Prince of Wales Road in Norwich.

Thursday, March 20, 2014
11:47 AM

A dozen new measures – including experimental road closures, extra CCTV cameras, new toilets and taxi marshals – could be introduced to help cut alcohol-fuelled violence and anti-social behaviour in Norwich.

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The 12 measures

Introducing an experimental late night road closure in specified residential streets, to operate from 11pm until 6am on Fridays and Saturdays. Private hire vehicles which park in those streets could be moved to Castle Meadow.

Installing a new CCTV camera in Bank Plain.

Putting a new CCTV camera in Cathedral Street/St Faiths Lane.

Gating orders – the first of which is likely to be in Redwell Street.

Working with the licensed trade to explore how they can make toilets available at the end of the evening.

Increase policing resources.

Calling on the government to take action on the cost and availability of alcohol.

Developing a cumulative impact policy – which would create a presumption against further licences being

approved.

Introducing taxi marshalling.

Providing public toilets in the new Rose Lane car park.

Promoting a designated driver scheme.

Improving traffic management – with a medium-term aim to ban general traffic from Prince of Wales Road and make Rose Lane two-way for general traffic.

A new action plan to tackle long-running problems in the heart of the city’s clubbing district, including Prince of Wales Road and Riverside, has been drawn up by council officers and police.

It follows work done over the past year, through which Norwich City Council and partner organisations identified a string of key issues, which they say need to be dealt with.

If the plan gets the go-ahead, one of the most radical measures would see traffic banned from streets, such as Cathedral Street, St Faiths Lane and Recorder Road on Friday and Saturday nights, starting this summer.

That would stop private hire vehicles from queuing in residential streets, with the council proposing to allow them to park in Castle Meadow instead – which would channel drinkers away from the residential areas.

The city council says the noise from clubbers waiting to be picked up from pre-booked taxis and from doors slamming and radios causes “considerable disturbance” for people living in the streets nearby.

Police have said they are prepared to enforce the road closure, which would apply from 11pm until 6am for all vehicles except those used by residents and local businesses.

Another measure is to install new CCTV cameras at a cost of about £37,000 – funded by the police and the Norfolk community safety partnership.

And, to help prevent people urinating in people’s gardens, new public toilets will be created in the proposed £7m 600-space Rose Lane Car Park the city council plans to build.

Bars and clubs will also be urged to encourage people to use their lavatories at the end of the night.

Some pedestrian alleyways, where the council receives complaints over “urinating, vomiting and other nefarious activities”, could be gated using the clean neighbourhood act of 2005. The first is likely to be in Redwell Street, if councillors approve the order, with the residents paying for the gate.

The council is also looking to promote a designated driver scheme, which would encourage licensees to offer free non-alcoholic drinks to designated drivers. And taxi marshals could make a return. Norwich previously had such a scheme in Tombland, funded by the Home Office. When that funding ran out, the police and council paid for it temporarily while attempts were made to make it self-funding.
While that was abandoned, the system could be revived under a new model. The action plan is set to be approved when Norwich City Council’s cabinet meets on Wednesday next week.

The opposition Green group had previously put forward their recommendations to cure the late night drinking problems.

29 comments

  • Who created the "Club District " could it possibly our City Council ?,and who finances this proposed expenditure,including Taxi Marshalls ?

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    Albert Cooper

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • May I ask how residents in the St Faiths Lane area etc. will get about at the weekends if they decided to go visit some friends on a Saturday night in their car?

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Tony Blair`s open all hours drinking culture has been a total disaster. Why don`t we just go back to the old hours of closing instead of spending tax payers money on those who just want to get blathered. I could think of many more worthwhile things in these days of cut backs to spend money on than this. Stephen Bett and the Chief Constable want to amalgamate Norfolk and Suffolk control rooms to save money. There is a much easier way. Stop appeasing the clubs and pubs.

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    BG

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Plus Rose Lane is the wrong location for the toilets. They need to be right on Prince of Wales Road for the drunks to use them. Otherwise they will still keep running down St Faiths Lane and the other dark off streets to pee in people gardens. Waste of effort and money otherwise. I guarantee it. Knock down the silly pay loo outside of Kwik-Fit and build them there. No excuses then.

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Would it not be a lot cheaper to shut down the clubs and go back to pubs closing at 11pm?

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    Norfolk John

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Why are we being told by NCC that the way to deal with the issue is to throw money at lessening the issue, rather than stopping it at it's roots?? Surely the intelligent approach is to spend money & time in stopping the cause of the issue, the bars that are open in the early hours & the types of individuals these businesses intentionally draws in.. If someone wants to makes money from anti social individuals by selling them alcohol in the early hours of the morning, then part of the cost of doing so should be the cost of dealing with the problems that the business causes to others.

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    el84

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Of course urinating in peoples gardens, fighting vomiting in streets is wrong and not nice. But Norwich is a city for goodness sake and cities have places of entertainment and nightclubs. i cant believe the person on here saying close all the nightclubs down. Do you know any cities in the western world that dont have nightclubs. Norwich love it as i do often seems more like a country town than a city and it seems many of its residents would like to make it even more so. Were these people ever young themselves.! Also why do people buy apartments and houses in city centre if they want peace and quiet. Live in the suburbs. I live about a mile and a half from city centre in Sprowston and my road is quieter than my old suffolk village, so you dont have to move miles out. I can walk in city in 25 mins. No way would i ever have bought an apartment off Prince Wales Road. if you want to live in a city with all the amenties a city has to offer, you have to accept it wont be like a country village. Just get real.

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    june muskett

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • "And, to help prevent people urinating in people’s gardens, new public toilets will be created in the proposed £7m 600-space Rose Lane Car Park the city council plans to build".Why do they think this will stop these Morons, they have toilets in the Night Clubs but they still use the Streets

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    turnover

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Oh looks like some folks have woken up and realised they need some important votes. So instead of the usual LabConLibDems who have constantly ignored residents and sucked up to the night time disaster zone they have decided to steal the Greens hard work in taking residents issues seriously. As mentioned Ben Price and his colleagues have done a lot of hard work here but for some reason has been frozen out and ignored.

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    Norwich Resident

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • I've got an even better idea. Cut the number of clubs in that area, and the police should not be frigntened to shut down these places at a moments notice should any trouble occur. Lets have more positive action and less "pussy footing" around.

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    "V"

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Either ban the sale of alcohol anywhere in Norwich between 11pm and 11am or make those people who want to sell alcohol pay through the nose for a license.

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    Disgusted of Norwich South

    Thursday, March 20, 2014

  • Plus Rose Lane is the wrong location for the toilets. They need to be right on Prince of Wales Road for the drunks to use them. Otherwise they will still keep running down St Faiths Lane and the other dark off streets to pee in people gardens. Waste of effort and money otherwise. I guarantee it. Knock down the silly pay loo outside of Kwik-Fit and build them there. No excuses then.

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Billy is right - make takeaways shut before clubs. Clubs can then shut at 2pm (as they did when I was younger). No takeaway to cause trouble in. Anyone hungry will have to leave early. No after clubs should be allowed in the city either - these are a licence for trouble. Police presence at the taxi rank. Job done. Any idiots still causing trouble get a night in the cels and should be made to pay a cash fee. I went out in Newmarket recently and after we left the club there was not one place open to get food and the upshot of that is that no one was waiting around.

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    DT

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Nice to see Mike Stonard taking all the credit of Cllr Ben Price and the hard work he has done. The only people who are actually supporting residents and doing all the fact finding for this are the Greens and Cllr Price. Some people have no shame.

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • How about charging people who end up it custody or hospital due to drinking.

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    canaryboy71

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • How about making the nightclubs and bars that are the primary cause of these problems pay for all these suggestions and alterations, they in turn could put up their admission and drinks prices.

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    mike smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Most of those fighting in Norwich city centre are men. They are often fighting because they've had no luck with women that evening. Anyone who spends time out in Norwich knows that men largely outnumber women, like primates they are left to get aggressive towards one another. How's about bars and clubs let in one man for every woman? The rest who don't get in can go home. Or if they get arrested for fighting in the street then they should be charged for the use of the cell.

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    DT

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • On several occasions after working a late shift I have been asked by female members of staff to walk from Castle Meadow to the railway station with them because they are too frightened to walk alone. Why? Because of the masses of raucous, semi or fully drunken people tearing about Prince of Wales Road and the surrounding clubland area. So what do we do? Once again we pander to a minority! Once again, the public purse will be opened to pay for for minority stupidity. The police get their funding from the public, so it won't be them paying for CCTV, but all of us. The residents have to PAY to have their own premises gated? Why? Let the clubs pay for it, and the CCTV. Make them pay for the street cleaning, removing the vomit, blood & other detritus. Better still, shut the clubs at 11 pm or midnight. Reduce the number of clubs. Let the clubbers make their own entertainment in their own homes or local pubs & facilities. It is completely wrong that residents are deprived of peace, quiet & safety in their homes just so clubs can make money and people can 'enjoy' themselves.

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    Labratone

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Let's face it it will take more than extra toilets and taxi marshalls to stop a blind drunk moron in a rage smashing someone's head in. Until the selling of the booze into the early hours is stopped no jobs worth from the council are going to lessen the drunks doing what they want to do, simple as that!

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    SallyK

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Oh and another thing, CCTV doesn't work either, nor do gates. Drunks take ZERO notice of CCTV or gates. We know because we've tried it. I've been telling the Police and council this for the past 10 years and they are still not listening.

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Some people are being very narrow minded about the late night economy! It is vibrant and varried and is a great asset to norwich. My question to the people leaving in nearby streets is why move in an area when you know it has a late night enconomy, it is common sense that noise levels in these areas are going to be high, however I understand that no matter where you leave no one should urinate on or around your property

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    Jack Lemmon

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Ive always wondered exactly how much this so called "vibrant night time economy" is actually worth in relation to the costs in terms of extra policing, street cleaning and not forgetting the misery caused to many local residents. I live in Thorpe so not a million miles from PoW Rd but I avoid the area at night at all costs. The Blair booze project was supposed to create a so called "café culture" where actually its simply allowed those kids not mature enough to hold their beer to behave badly for longer. So my suggestion is the following:- 1) Stop any club from remaining open past 2am, 2) Drunken behaviour to be dealt with harshly. Heavy fines and for violence prison sentences, No doubt Ill get shouted down for saying this..

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    Tootyfrooty

    Saturday, March 22, 2014

  • I believe the CCTV and public lavatories should be provided at the expense of the club and bar owners of Prince of Wales road. It is the owners of these establishments that reap the benefit of the drunken behaviour in their cash registers, it is the local population that suffer because of the drunk induced state of their clients.

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    laurellee

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Mike Stonard says we are fortunate to have a lively social scene ! and this the envy of many other cities ! WHAT !!!

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    Albert Cooper

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Where does trouble normally start,? at the Takeaways, Just make them all close at 11.00, trouble gone, cost , nothing

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    Blocked User

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • I live on St Faiths Lane and traffic is NOT an issue. It's an easy target for the police and council to target that ignores the big NTE problems they don't want to tackle. The big problem is the council have created a monster and they are powerlessgutless to stop it. The Norwich Alcohol Licensing is a rubber stamp sham of a dept. They won't dare stop a application in case they get taken to court. They only want to do a 'soft touch' approach to the clubs but that ignores the fact that most club owners are 'geezers' that will exploit that soft touch to their advantage 110% and basically wrap the council round their fingers. The police need to withdraw support from the weekends so the council has to grow some balls and properly deal with it. That or move some of the strip clubs and bars out to the Golden Triangle. Oh...what not in the Golden Triangle you cry? Well the council keep telling us that the NTE is such a great thing for Norwich so why not?

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    Resident Smith

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • So Castle Meadow becomes a taxi rank, for Private Hire vehicles?

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    teresak

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • I believe the CCTV and public lavatories should be provided at the expense of the club and bar owners of Prince of Wales road. It is the owners of these establishments that reap the benefit of the drunken behaviour in their cash registers, it is the local population that suffer because of the drunk induced state of their clients.

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    laurellee

    Wednesday, March 19, 2014

  • Dear Jane & Jack. Thanks for your comments, we residents get asked that a lot. The reason we live there is simple. A lot of us have lived there for 18+ years. When I moved here there were two pubs and a few restaurants. It was really quiet on PoW road. All the trouble has only started since around 2000 when idiots thought it would be a great idea to put all the NEW clubs on top of one another. So it's a really simple answer. We were here first. Thanks.

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    Norwich Resident

    Thursday, March 20, 2014

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