Photo Gallery: 94 Norfolk schools affected and council services hit as workers strike over ‘insulting’ pay offer

Striking government workers march through Norwich. Picture: Denise Bradley Striking government workers march through Norwich. Picture: Denise Bradley

Thursday, July 10, 2014
9:33 PM

Thousands of council workers, teachers and school support staff across Norfolk are striking today over what they claim is an “insulting” pay offer.

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Facts and figures

Workers taking industrial action include:

- Council workers: Over 750,000 local authority workers in Wales, England and Northern Ireland, including home helps, lollipop men and women, refuse collectors, librarians, dinner ladies, parks attendants, council road safety officers, social workers, architects and cleaners.

They belong to the three biggest trade unions, Unison, Unite and the GMB, and are in dispute over pay after rejecting an offer worth 1pc for most employees.

Unions say council workers have suffered below inflation pay rises, or wage freezes, every year since the coalition came to power.

- Teachers: Over 200,000 members of the National Union of Teachers in Wales and England are involved in a dispute over changes to pay, pensions and working conditions which has been going on for over two years. Last year, the union staged a series of regional strikes with the NASUWT teaching union. Between them they represent the vast majority of teachers.

- Civil servants: Almost 250,000 members of the Public and Commercial Services union across the UK, including staff in jobcentres, benefit offices, passport centres, museums and galleries, courts, immigration at ports and airports, driving test examiners and catering workers at the Houses of Parliament.

The union is embroiled in a long-running row with the Government over jobs, pay, pensions, spending cuts, and privatisation of services.

The PCS said some civil servants have suffered a 20% loss of income in real terms since the coalition came to power in 2010.

- Firefighters: More than 30,000 members of the Fire Brigades Union in Wales and England. The union has been taking industrial action since last year in protest at controversial changes to pensions and retirement age.

- Transport for London staff: Hundreds of administrative workers at TfL, members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union, in a row over pay, pensions and conditions.

Norfolk County Council reported that 94 schools were affected by industrial action.

Some council services have also been hit as members of trade unions UNISON, GMB, PCS and Unite take industrial action today over a pay offer of 1pc for those earning more than £14,880.

These include Norwich’s Millennium Library, Mile Cross Library and the Norfolk Record Office.

Members of the National Union of Teachers are also joining in the strike action, as part of their ongoing campaign over teachers’ pay, pensions and workload, as are the Fire Brigades Union.

Norfolk public sector strikes - Have your say

Union leaders said councils would ‘grind to a halt’ during the day of action, while a number of schools across the county have closed their doors.

The Norwich and District Trades Council organised a rally at Chapelfield Gardens in the city. About 600 people joined a march through the city centre streets and heard speeches from union members.

Jonathan Dunning, Norfolk UNISON branch secretary said the 1pc pay offer for local government workers was “insulting”.

He said: “Local government workers have endured a 18pc pay cut in real terms since 2010. An offer of only 1pc when we are told the economy is picking up is an insult.

“Our members have paid for the government’s disastrous austerity agenda with unprecedented job losses; privatization followed by massive pay cuts and increased workloads.

“A 1pc pay increase after all of this is not acceptable which is why our members voted to strike”.

But a spokesman for the Local Government Association said the strike action would not change the pay offer.

He said: “The pay offer we have made would increase the pay of most employees by one per cent while the lowest paid would receive an increase of more than four per cent.

“This is the fairest possible deal for our employees given the limits of what we can afford. This strike will not change the pay offer we have made, but it will mean those who take part lose a day’s pay.”

The FBU strikes, will will run from 10am and 7pm are due to a national dispute between the government and the FBU over changes to the pension scheme.

Norfolk Fire and Rescue Service say the service will continue to deal with any incidents in the best way possible during this time.

A 999 response service will continue to operate and should be contacted in the usual way. If necessary calls will be prioritised as they come in and it is hoped that the public will continue to assist them by placing extra emphasis on their own safety.

Norwich City Council said it had contingency measures in place and that people’s bins would still be emptied.

Broadland District Council said services were running as usual, as the local Unison branch is unaffected by a national strike call.

The branch has been excluded from the national action over pay because a local pay agreement is in force at the council.

Pickets also took place at County Hall, Vantage House, Millennium Library and Carrow Fire Station in Norwich, at Priory House in King’s Lynn, at Great Yarmouth Town Hall, at Ketteringham Depot and South Norfolk House in Long Stratton.

A Cabinet Office spokesman said: “Most public sector workers have reported for work today and well-rehearsed contingency plans are ensuring that nearly all key public services are being delivered as usual.

“In past years, unions made inflated claims about how many they thought would participate in strike action. They were shown to be wrong.

“We can confirm that only a fifth of civil servants - fewer than 90,000 - are on strike. That is down from the strike action in March 2013; all 717 jobcentres opened this morning; the majority of schools in England and Wales are open; fire services are operating across the country; and nationally, disruption to local government services is minimal.

“Nevertheless, it is a huge disappointment that once again a handful of union leaders have pushed for irresponsible strike action, which can cause inconvenience and disruption to children’s education and the lives of hard-working families.

“Union leaders are relying on mandates for action that lack authority - the National Union of Teachers is relying on a ballot run nearly two years ago.”

To see which schools are affected, log onto http://disruptions.norfolk.gov.uk/nccclosures_schools.html

• Do you think the workers are right to strike? Write, giving full contact details, to Letters Editor, Prospect House, Rouen Road, Norwich NR1 1RE.

136 comments

  • "v"; you said you would love to teach...perhaps I have done you a dis-service; its admirable if you genuinely want to; as another commentator said; you can work as a classroom assistant without a degree, and if you have useful experience then why not use it, usefully? If you want things to improve then get involved. Far better to do that than compain about what's wrong; if you want to see norfolk kids have a good education as we all surely do, then do somethin g about it.

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    Stephen Strange

    Saturday, July 12, 2014

  • " If the comments are so badly presented it just shows what an rubish education system this country has." The irony...brilliant.

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    c128

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • Jonny sorry but this is rubbish. What made this country great was hard work and knowing ones responsibilities rather than ones rights.

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    Union Jack

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • Stephen strange. You will probably find that blister is a teacher. Thats why they have so much time to comment on this post. If the comments are so badly presented it just shows what an rubish education system this country has.

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    NorfolkNog

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • I am a council worker and was one of the people not striking, keeping things running. Although Ive felt no need to join the union and no need to strike, i do completely understand why the teachers would want to strike, they have a very hard job trying to discipline and educate people's children, and only getting grief. It is NOT a part time job and they are definitely not paid enough. If you want better teachers then pay the job better and you'll get more people wanting to do it.

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    bubbly_mik

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • But for strike action people like "union jack" would probably be slaving in the fields or factories with no annual leave, no sick pay, next to no wages and most certainly no pension. Doubtless she'd be rolled up in his union jack flag proud to be a Brit. Ordinary working people prepared to stand up for their rights are what have made this country great not those who meekly comply. Congratulations to those who took action yesterday as they are doing more to protect services than any of the main political parties.

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    Jonny

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • Give the whole of the 1% to those public sector workers who do not strike as a thankyou to those who still provide a public service. As for the whingers why not go somewhere else if life in the UK does not meet your needs. I am sure there must be a country somewhere in need of those wishing to maximise salaries pensions and holidays, whilst having the right to cause disruption, with complete disregard for everyone else. Let me know if you find it.

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    Union Jack

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • I dont think the commentray here is so much about left v right so much as facts v prejudicestupidity. There are a handful of commentators who just make the same uninformed points over and over again (eg "Blister" who seems to spend more time posting than he does slaving away "in the fields"- seems more likley to have got his blisters from typing than anything else!) and are not interested in fact based arguments or reasoned debate- they clearly just want to bait and wind others up which is not a good use of anyones time. There is a simple question here; do we want our kids to get a good education or not? If so, you neeed good quality people, and to get them you have to give them appropriate pay and conditions. And if other are unhappy about their pay and conditions, dont try and drag everyone else down with dumb remarks about teachers and publc sector workers being "idiots", improve your own situation instead. Anyway, some of us have to work so that's it for today!!

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    Stephen Strange

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • Again, low paid moaning about their situation. If you're badly paid, do something about it! Don't just blame other groups of workers who can be bothered. The clue is this - low pay tends to be found in firms where unions are 'banned'.

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    marty r

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • Don't rise to blister the agent provocateur ...just there to stoke up fury!!

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    Sportswagon

    Friday, July 11, 2014

  • You should try working blister, you clearly don't because you post on here all day and all night.

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    Cyril the Canary

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Honest John, your little missive about the turn out shows how out of touch you are. It may have escaped your notice, but we live in a democracy, perhaps you would like to get your dictionary out. If your rules were applied, no government would ever be elected, if you don't vote when you could and should, then you have not one ounce of reason to complain about the outcome.

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    crunchy dick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • The most interesting thing about this long thread is how it reveals where on the right or left regular correspondents to these boards opinions lie.

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    Capri

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • A Banker, a School Teacher, a Tory MP and a Daily Mail reader are sat around a table. In front of them is a plate, on which there are ten biscuits. The Banker scoffs nine of the biscuits, then the Tory MP turns to the Daily Mail reader and whispers in his ear "watch out, that teacher is after your biscuit" ... an old joke, I know, but substitute any worker for teacher and it still applies. Bankers bonuses are justified because if we don't give them 150% extra at the end of every year, they will apparently go and work elsewhere. meanwhile everyone else is given an insulting 1% and told they should be grateful. Those people on here exhorting the protesters to get back to work need to wake up. You are snidely attacking fellow sufferers instead of the people causing the suffering.

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    spigot

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Any union which thinks it's justified in striking when only just over 20% of its members voted for it and 73% of its members didn’t turn out for the vote should have its leadership banned for life from holding office. Get back to work, and stop whingeing until the quality of your output improves. The standards of too many school leavers are currently appalling. Take a look at the private sector and see how your salaries and pensions compare! If you're so unhappy with your lot, go look for a job there.

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    Honest John

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • MP have not had a 11% pay rise.When this financial collapse happen Cameron ordered a 5% pay cut and a pay freeze.So stop telling silly lies,and get the facts first then we can have a grown up debate.Fact we were left by the last Government a deficit worse than Greece cutting back on the tax payer funded Public sector was a requirement of any responsible Government for our childrens future.

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    PaulH

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • No surprise - same comments as always. Before you ask no I'm not a teacher I'm self-employed and vulnerable to all the vagaries of the market. If teaching or working in any other public service area is such a great deal do it. Have the weeks of holidays, the enormous pension and the massively secure job which apparently exist. Just get the necessary qualifications and make yourself marketable. Not too tricky surely. If you are working for minimum wage for 80 hours a week and disgruntled possibly join up with your work colleagues and collectively ask your employer for a change in their illegal working practises. Maybe withdraw your labour as a final protest. Too scared to strike - you need to ask why. Or be self -employed and control your own empire. The ups, the downs and all the brinkmanship involved. Just don't moan about other people who are protesting about their rights in their world. Sort out your own stuff rather than comparing with others and feeling hard done by because you can't negotiate.

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    NR1 Guru

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Chris Houghton Labour supporter,good company for the others Smith,Balls and Fry.

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    PaulH

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • And for all those 'martyrs' in the private sector grumbling about their low wages and poor conditions, you have three options. (1)Put up and shut up. (2) Change your job to one better paid or (3) form a union and get a better share of the wealth you create. Oh and that'd be private sector low wages subsidised by tax credits too wouldn't it?

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    marty r

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • These teachers are just marxist trouble makers. They are not fit to teachour children. They should be sacked.

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    Johnny Norfolk

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Please don't apply the percentage rule to an industrial action vote. The government can only dream about the turnout that a union ballot achieves. As with all opportunities to vote, all those who are eligilble to should do. The fact that they don't can only mean that they are happy with the decisions that are taken in their absence. How difficult is is it to put an X in a box and exercise your right ?

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    crunchy dick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • * working not walking...

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    nobbly1

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • I'm loving all of these anti teacher comments. I bet half of you wouldn't have the balls to stand up in front of a class and teach a lesson. You'd not last a day. The teachers are striking because their pensions are being eroded away. You'd be cheesed off if you'd been walking for 40+ years and coming up to retirement looking forward to that little next egg and boom! It has gone because of government meddling. You'd be narked off as well if the government decided that hey you don't need a degree or training anymore to become a teacher. Joe Bloggs on the street with an IQ of Forest Gump magnitude can become one. You'd be narked of as well if people were constantly berating you for daring to stand up for your principles. You'd also be narked off because the government are hell bent on changing how things are to be taught. Oh then they're changing their minds again just as you get used to the new way of teaching. As for 13 weeks holiday unbelievable.... I know a few teachers and they don't have holiday. No they're playing catch up with work 9 times out of 10. So to all of you out there i dare you... No i double dare you to walk up to a teacher and tell them that they can't strike and to man up and get on with it. Please allow me to laugh when said person lands one squarely on your jaw. (Please note i don't advocate violence). I back this strike 100% along with all the council workers, the library workers, the care workers, the social workers etc. All who work extremely long hours and for what recognition? None! So get off their backs...

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    nobbly1

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Interesting to note that most teachers or public service workers who did strike chose not to man the barricades or protest, but simply to have a day off. Not so much a day of principle, just a holiday. This is a strike voted for only by a fanatical minority, who would rather destroy all concept of service in the interest of trying to promote the cause of an outdated union movement. Unfortunately , many of those who did not vote for it chose to follow like sheep and not to state their case or stand their ground but to simply have a holiday. To those who went to work, thankyou. I trust you will get the bulk of the 1% when it is handed out. No more strikes based on minority voting please.

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    Union Jack

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • It's about time these unions were kicked back into touch. These idiots are moaning about money let alone they have lost a days pay, perhaps the government should tax these pensions as it is public money after all. If you bite the hand that feeds you then you deserve the consequences.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Well said Jason Bunn. If Teaching is so bad get out of it. Oh I just remembered its too well paid, long holidays etc.

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    NorfolkNog

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • gavnorwich Get real please. Teachers in our day had extremely large classes with no teaching assistants to help them. They were respected by us kids because they didn`t regard teaching as just a job. It was a vocation. They did an awful lot for us. Both in school time and out of school time. A lot more than your short list. They were paid a lot less than teachers today and the only ones with cars were head teachers! The rest used to come to school on their bikes or the bus. Some people nowadays don`t know when they are well off.

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    BG

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • As someone who has had one holiday or any time off during the year in 20 years, doesn't have a pension, has to work 80+ hours a week to survive, has to work extra hours as staff can't work as their children are off school due to a strike, with it already being bad enough with all the time children have off school, and how poor their education these days is, all the hassle and grief caused by these strikes, little to no wage rises for the rest of us in over a decade regardless of the rising costs all around us, my sympathy amounts to 0, nothing, nada, zilch. All it does is strengthen my opposition to unions. They and the actions of their members are just a royal pain in the backside to everyone else and it will not and should not achieve what they want it to. A bit like what we used to say about the GI's in WW2, but adjusted slightly, Underworked, underperforming, overpaid and over rested! GET BACK TO WORK!

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    Jason Bunn

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Nog, maybe those not striking are marking, or preparing lessons for the future, or running afterschool clubs, or are away on schooltrips, or are grading GCSE or 'A' level exams. There is so much more to teaching than what you saw happen in your school days.

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Crazy..if its illegal why were the police escorting the march through the city? Why hasn't the Government been to court and got an injunction as it has done on previous occasions? or are you just wrong?

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Blister...every taxpayer pays for the public sector pensions. Stop trying to make out its only the low paid part of the private sector that pays for them...its plain nonsense.

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • This is an illegal strike, the vote happened 2 years ago with 20% turnout and what they voted on isn't even the same as what they are striking for. Anyone taking part should feel ashamed for putting childrens educations as risk, especially when they don't even know what they are striking for...

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    Crazy

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Norfolknog: Well done, good try, must do better! The others must have failed to learn at different schools from yours.

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    Patrick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Don't grieve dear subscribers Chris Hughton was at big Labour shindig inLondon .Ihave it on good authority he will be parachuted in at next election to save jobs increase wages and pensions except for The CEO of NCFC

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    No to tory boy

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • With 40%+ of children leaving school semi literate and innumerate how can teachers justify a pay rise? The problem is that too many Teachers are in the same category having been poorly educated themselves and so it is the blind leading the blind.Poor parenting is also partly to blame.

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    irongloves

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • I see attacking firemen is the troll's latest victim...hope they ignore you when you need them. Don't public servants with their cushy incomes pay taxes too which means that they pay more than all those poorly paid serfs in the 'real world'. The nonsense spouted on here is very sad and illogical.

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    Sportswagon

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • I think at the last count we had 470 schools in Norfolk so with only 95 affected in some way or another, hardly a resounding success for the unions day of action. Maybe teachers are at long last realising that striking is now old hat and nothing is ever gained as a result of it, except the loss of a days pay and an increasing loss of support from the public. Teachers and all the others on strike are, as far as I am aware, still getting their progressive pay increases which is more than most in the private sector. Plus of course very generous terms of condition of employment which include being paid while off sick and the ability to claw back any annual leave lost through sickness.

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    BG

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • If public sector workers expect a pay rise then they should give up their over generous pensions that all us low paid workers in the private sector have to pay for

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    blister

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Patrick. That is a slur against teachers. I am a teacher and mi gramer and speilling is prefect.

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    NorfolkNog

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Ha Ha you've changed your tune V but you remain Vivious, Vacant and enormously damaged. Get help mate!!

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    Sportswagon

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Gavnorwich: yes, I do research. Out of anything even a little above 1% I shall be paying some teacher's pension. I'm not expecting someone else to pay. By the way, read these comments and ask yourself 'why is there so much wrong spelling and poor grammar and syntax?' There's a lot wrong with our education system. Depriving children of learning time is short-sighted and won't help.

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    Patrick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • haha, Norfolk John, I think Larson Whipstroll may be referring to you on a comment under the Labour MP story.

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    Piranha24

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Gavnorwich any one with a child at high school would be limited to school holidays....same rules would apply to teachers as everyone else. Not complicated to work it out if there was a will to do so. Difficult to justify teachers or schools not being utilised at least 47 weeks of the year. As for the argument that teachers are not on holiday for the 13 weeks, as being suggested by Old School I would accept this for time spent on school premises during the 13 weeks ( how many weeks would that be ?)

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    Union Jack

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Old school - I live next to two teachers and believe me they ARE on holiday for 13 weeks. Although this year they are aiming for 15 weeks if we get 6 snow flakes and the schools are closed.

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    NorfolkNog

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Just an observation, but if you look at the statistics alongside this report relating to the actual numbers of people on strike, why is it that teachers are singled out for specific criticism? People don't seem that fussed by everyone else. Must be the 13 weeks 'holiday' a year. Anyone who has even the slightest knowledge of the education system will know that those 13 weeks aren't all holiday for staff, they are times when students aren't in school. There is a huge difference!!!

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    OldSchool

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • So Union Jack, what about families with one child in high school and another in junior school? or teachers with children?

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Why does everyone think that the private sector is so much worse off, I've regularly had above inflation pay rises, I have a final salary non contributory pension scheme and seven weeks holiday a year and I work for an insurance company.

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Gavnorwich Yes 47 weeks a year for teachers and children but with junior and middle school pupils allowed 2 weeks holiday during that time, so they can avoid peak times, and the non sensible fines for absence( which apparently do not apply to teachers or teaching assistants ).

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    Union Jack

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • 1 % is better than 0 % as obtained by a lot of commercial companies. We have not a pay rise for 3 years. I would be happy with zero % in exchange for their final salary pensions, their 70 days of holiday (Teachers), their flexi time at county hall, their subsidised social club and their ability to buy days off at less than they earn for that day. Of couse if they are so good at their job and are under payed they could always get a job in the private sector, but of course they would have to say good bye to all the above benifits.

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    NorfolkNog

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Union Jack - Are you suggesting that children should be in school 47 weeks a year?

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • PCS - AKA Mark Serwotka's Vendetta against the Tories. You'll get your pay rise when your colleagues in the commercial sector are treated equally. If your in the commercial sector, Keep Calm and Shut your mouth, the union motto.

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    BarclayBigMouth

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Good working conditions..good salaries..long holidays..good pensions.....so get back to work and set a good example for the children. How about working 47 weeks a year like everyone else, with training in your own time. Right to strike should require 50 per cent of members to vote "yes"

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    Union Jack

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • That’s strange Larson.whatever.you.call.yourself because you seem to post more than most!

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    Norfolk John

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Patrick, do you research...Cash ISA's available on the High Street between 1.4% and 1.5%

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • @ Fact into Doubt won't go. So what you saying is that we need to agree with most of what you say before we can disagree with you. Sounds like classic public sectorunion narrow mindedness. You're an idiot.

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    Smellthecoffee

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Smell the coffee...you make it sound like tax paying is optional, its not that they 'can' pay more tax.....its that they have too! They are 'bleating' because they are being made to pay more into their occupational pension schemes to get less after working longer. With no salary increases and higher pension contributions this a cut in take home pay.

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • A 1% increase is more than anyone with any hard earned savings will get. In fact most interest rates are less than that and going down. And how do savers protest or go on strike. Why are strikers so selfish?

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    Patrick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • CNS -- it's 'lessons different FROM normal' because things differ FROM and not TO.

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    Patrick

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Anyway, 1million people is about 3% of the workforce, hardly a representative view.

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    Smellthecoffee

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • So. if the hogher paid workers are paid so much they can pay so much tax what are they all bleating about?

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    Smellthecoffee

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • I like how someone expresses an opinion and they're suddenly a troll. Take it from someone who's been in the union for 10 years, this is more a political agenda, revenge against the Tories than it is about an insulting pay rise. oh no, I made a comment against the strikes, TROLL!

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    Piranha24

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Fed up with these public sector people bleating on about how the world owes them and we should come and do their jobs to see how awful it is. Yes, some of the health and emergency services people are great, but the rest seem to just sit there whining with theor hands out. We are all having a tough time, get over it or look for another job.

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    Smellthecoffee

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • OOOH the Circus is in town, is in town

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    Piranha24

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Maybe we do have some agreement on this? Teachers and the rest of us do work hard, but times are hard in both the public and private sectors. Maybe the guys at the top shouldn't get such huge 'salaries' and packages, and there would be more left for the real workers. The banks got us in this mess, and have been allowed to continue, funded by us............. Politicians and their 11% increase - again, funded by us. This is the REAL issue.

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    Considered View

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • You should just get a job Blister - any job and stop relying on the DWP.

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    Cyril the Canary

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • V - ever thought of becoming a teaching assistant?...don't need a degree or have indoctrination. BTW it' not an illegal closed shop....its the governments requirement. By your logic Doctors, lawyers and accountants are all operating illegal closed shops. And what experience do you have to pass on? Blister...you comments are funny, the more you earn the more you pay in tax...so these high paid public sector workers fund more of their pensions than the lower paid private sector workers.

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    gavnorwich

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • The public service workers should try shop work or working in the fields all day , then they might appreciate their own high wage, comfortable work place and generous pension that lower paid workers in the private sector have to fund for them.

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    blister

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • These trolls are great entertainment! Keep it up fellas, you haven't a clue what you're talking about, but you're very funny!

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    marty r

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Entertaining stuff on here today. Keep 'em coming. I know we have more aliases (hope that's the plural) on here than on a Tower Hamlets election ballot paper but who cares ?

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    Steely Dan

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Morning Larson. Nice to see you back on here. :-) Steve Strange. I would love to go into a classroom and teach but there is one problem. Its call an illegal closed shop, where you have to have a degree AND teacher training (indoctronation into the left wing way of thinking and doing things), before you can teach. Experience counts for nothing with these self important teachers.

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    "V"

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Funny how teachers condemn parents for taking a child out of school for a holiday yet disrupt the teaching year because of their own greed, while the firefighters seem to be on strike more than they are work, must be a case for making the fire service a volunteer organisation along the lines of the RNLI . The firemen seem more concerned with their fat cat pension scheme that the rest of us have to fund

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    blister

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • The easiest way to rule is to divide and conquer. Given the number of ignorant and illiterate comments on here, it seems to be working.

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    Sugarbeet

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Quite right Larson. You do have to wonder where the troll's incomes come from, as they manage to post throughout the day and night. Clearly not from jobs in the public sector, nor from the private sector because they would be being worked so hard they wouldn't have a chance to post. So who are they sponging off? Mummy and Daddy or the DWP?

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    Cyril the Canary

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Hit the nail on the head there Larson!

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    Stephen Strange

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • "V"...you're like s tuck record. Completely predictable with nothing original to say and no sense in your arguments. Its easy, isnt it, to spout nonsense anonymously on a website...why not put your "arguments" into the EDP letters page under your real name? PS Have you worked in a classroom yet??

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    Stephen Strange

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Ha ha ha. The picture at the top with the t shirts "we're worth it". The idiots have got illusions of grandure. If they think they are "worth it", then get a job in the real world. All striking teachers & council workers should be sacked and those left should be either forced to go self employed or on zero hour contracts where they can be removed from their jobs without compensation. The only exceptions should be the emergency services. I have a lot of respect for them.

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    "V"

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Anita Dump...Fact into Doubt...writing reasoned, sensible arguments which easily trump the dumb 2 sentence "cushy jobsack the striker" mob who thankfully reperesent a misinformed minority. The article, for these who bothered to actually read it and think anout it sums it up; "Local government workers have endured a 18pc pay cut in real terms since 2010. An offer of only 1pc when we are told the economy is picking up is an insult. “Our members have paid for the government’s disastrous austerity agenda with unprecedented job losses; privatization followed by massive pay cuts and increased workloads. “A 1pc pay increase after all of this is not acceptable which is why our members voted to strike”

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    Stephen Strange

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • You're right. Because over 1 MILLION PEOPLE are wrong and you are completely right. If only anonymous ignorant keyboard warriors had direct access to Whitehall, the country would be in a fantastic state.

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    Dan

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • Typical behaviour from the public sector workers who enjoy high wags, secure jobs and very generous pensions paid for by the lower paid workers in the private sector. If the public sector workers feel they are so hard done by they should join the real world and get a job in a shop or out in the fields, maybe then they would appreciate their cushy jobs

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    blister

    Thursday, July 10, 2014

  • ....."wanting more than a 1% pay rise in 6 years".....I'm finding an average yearly increase of 0.8% in educational salaries since 2007, which comes out at nearly 6% over 7 years. Perhaps it was management and not teachers getting these increases. Health and Social did slightly better at 6.5%.

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    Rhombus

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Fact Into Doubt Won't Go, you're a legend. Summed my thoughts up perfectly. How can most of you spout the rubbish you do on here? Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. If you work on a farm, how do you know how hard it is to be a teacher? If you work in the private sector, do you really know what it's like to be a council worker? Or firefighter? The reality is, you have little or no idea. I would never disrespect another human by saying what I do is more important, more worthy, more demanding or more difficult than what they do unless I'd actually tried it. We can't all do the same job, we have to do different things or the world wouldn't work. They are all valuable. Yes, strike action will inconvenience parents of children who cannot go to school and a whole load of others. That's the point of a strike. The public are the 'customers' of the public sector and they are bound to be affected. If you're unhappy with your own circumstances, as several of you on here seem to be, then do something about it. Don't moan because others are taking a stand for what they believe in.

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    Anita Dump

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • " teachers in China don't go on strike"...I wonder why that is? Could it be beacuse they have an opressive government that doesnt tolerate dissent? And is that why many chines people that i know choose to work here where people are free to express their views AND withdraw their labour to get a decent pay deal. Off to China then if you admire their system so much!!

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    Stephen Strange

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • All these people going on strike for poor pay increase, for not the 1st time in the last couple of years, give absolutely no thought for the hard working school kitchen staff that loose a days pay every time the schools close due to strike. The majority of us are on minimum wage, and paid nothing for school holidays or bank holidays, just your average 4 weeks holiday pay in the summer as holidays during term time are not permitted.

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    schoolomeals

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • samphirelover

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • It wasn't that long ago that education minister and South West Norfolk MP Elizabeth Truss together with Dame Rachel de Souza went off on a trip to China and extolled the virtues of Chinese style teaching in Norfolk to improve Norfolk schools. I think they might have noticed that teachers in China don't go on strike, so their children get a full term at school not like ours who keep having to skip school to cater for the teachers getting in a huff about their pay rise.

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    expat

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Voice of Reason: you're an idiot.

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    Fact Into Doubt Won't Go

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Well said Fact Into Doubt Won't Go!!

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    Bev

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • I've said it once, but it's worth saying again. If you really think wanting more than a 1% pay rise in 6 years, when the cost of living has gone up by about 20% is greedy, you're an idiot. If your response to people wanting a fair wage is 'get another job!' then you're an idiot. If your response to anything the public sector do is 'they should try getting a job in the private sector it's much harder!' then you're an idiot. If you think teachers have it easy these says, you're an idiot. If you think public sector workers are highly paid and enjoy golden pensions you're an idiot. If you're unable to have empathy for other people just because you succumb to this government ideal that the private sector and the public sector should hate each other, you're an idiot. However if you're against strike action, have valid reasons for it and are able to articulate your point in a manner that doesn't refer to unions as 'left wing militant do gooders!' then while I disagree with you, I respect your opinion.

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    Fact Into Doubt Won't Go

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • biglingers. thanks for that. I did put another response up for Ols School but Archant has censored that one, or they have been nobbled by the NUT.

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    "V"

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • 'larson' you obviously have had lessons in t------- - you seem to know how to! What do the private sector pay council and other taxes for if not to (reluctantly) contribute to public sector costs? I won't go any further, because my real thoughts wouldn't get past the adjudicator! Well said 'V' and 'blister', I couldn't agree more.

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    biglingers

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • OldSchool. "Put yourselves through college or university, complete your teaching training and crack on........" Why should we ?. Why should us "oldies" who have many, many years experience in the real world, and who would like to teach, have to put ourselves through an illegal, antiquated closed shop where the deluded educational establishment think you have to have a degree AND teacher training before you can even get a sniff of the classroom ?. A lot of the teachers now a days are just kids themselves. School, university (for the illegal closed shop), teacher training (left wing brainwashing) and back to school again (no real world experience). No wonder education has gone down the toilet in this country. Answer this one !

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    "V"

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Norfolk John: The only minority holding society to ransom is the 1% of the world's population that holds 95% of the world's wealth and has £320 trillion hidden in tax avoidance havens around the planet

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    Metalhead

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Isn’t it time, in a so called modern and civilised society, that we made striking illegal? I know that all the do gooders and the council ‘workers’, teachers etc will object to this but we really cannot have a minority sector of society holding the majority to ransom. If someone doesn’t like the pay and conditions offered, then they should go and find another job.

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    Norfolk John

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Typical of the public sector workers to strike at any opportunity. They have well paid secure jobs that also provide a very generous pension scheme that the low paid hard working people of this country have to pay for. Public sector workers should try shop work or farm work and join the real world, they would then realise how lucky they are in their offices and classrooms.

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    blister

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • They should count themselves lucky to be in a job. There are many who would jump at the chance to work. I speak as one who was once made redundant and know what its like to be unemployed.

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    Ianboxer

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Teaching, for example, is such an easy life we have thousands of people banging on the door to join the profession........oh, hang on a minute, quite the opposite is true, with something like 1 in 4 new teachers (or possibly higher) leaving the profession in the first 5 years. It's easy to bash teachers, after all, we all went to school, and we saw what an easy life it was. We went to lessons, got taught, went home. Our books were marked, the lessons planned, and the classrooms looked great. All those things of course happened by magic!!! At least back then we, as pupils, weren't continually harassed about target grades. If we worked, we learnt, then we passed exams and got a pat on the back, and moved onto bigger and better things. These days, if pupils aren't achieving, it isn't because they aren't putting the effort in, it's because the teachers aren't making them work hard enough. When I was at school, if I got in trouble, I knew that when I got home I'd be in even more. Nowadays, as soon as a student is in trouble, parents are banging down the door to protect them. And as for trying to give any form of sanction.......fine, with 3 weeks written notice in triplicate, or something daft. The whole education system is ridiculous. No wonder teachers are leaving in droves. If it's as simple as some of these people suggest I have a solution. Put yourselves through college or university, complete your teaching training and crack on. I just hope you prefer paperwork, target setting, jumping through hoops, and constantly moving goalposts, to making a difference to young people. Because at the end of the day, all of this is about making a difference to young people. In effect, all the changes to education have achieved is to place students further down the pile of responsibilities. How can this be right???

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    OldSchool

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • ".....they should try shop work or working as a farm worker and see what the real world is like....." . Why don't you join the real world Blister by getting a proper job instead of trolling away on here all day under a wide selection of aliases.

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    LARSON.E. WHIPSNADE

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • I think people have to look at the bigger picture. As a result of the financial meltdown the country is broke, the front line numbers might be getting better but the underling debt is massive and rising. If you work in the private sector your pay reflects how profitable the company is and your expertise. I'm afraid the same is true of the public sector, there is a limited amount of money. I know the meltdown was not the result of the public sector but that's the downside of working there. We will see real term spending cuts in all areas of the public sector for many years to come including the unaffordable NHS. I think if we carry on as we are we might have the debt under control in 20 years, if they open the purse strings it will be a continual decline.

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    Tony

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • This isn't the time for private and public sector workers to beat each other to death in a race to the bottom. We have ALL been cheated and ripped off by austerity cuts, while bankers, politicians and tax cheats continue to line their pockets. Just a couple of points you may find interesting: I've worked in both private and public sectors and can confidently say starting salaries are pretty much equal for similar type jobs - the idea that the public sector pays out a fortune is simply a myth; tens of thousands are well below the national living wage. It's also a pointless argument to say 'try doing a similar job in the private sector' as many public workers work in social care, childrens services etc, where there are no equivalent jobs to compare with. That's why it's the 'public sector' and not 'private business' - it isn't dictated by profit. As for teachers specifically, let's not forget they are professionals. In comparison to other professionals (doctors, lawyers etc) their starting salaries of around £25K to around £45K for a middle management are actually modest in comparison, for the task of caring for YOUR children. Don't buy the myths - WE are all in this together, but your government is well out of it and concerned with only looking after themselves.

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    Metalhead

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Typical behaviour of overpaid public sector workers they are in secure, well paid jobs with very generous pensions paid for by the lower paid and harder working people, they should try shop work or working as a farm worker and see what the real world is like

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    blister

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Council workers provide vital services for people and yet over 400,000 local government workers earn less than £15,000 p.a.and take-home pay has reduced by over 20% since the Con-Dem coalition came to power.Paying a fair and living wage will put money back into local communities so everyone benefits.People have to live.

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    Peter Watson

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Morning Larson. Im back. Sack the strikers and put all others (including MP's Civil Service etc but not the emergency services) on zero hour contracts. Lets see how long they last then.

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    "V"

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • "....The strikers want to try working in the private sector ....." .Teachers in the private sector often get paid more for doing less , and the idea that private sector workers are paying for any increase is a well worn myth and complete garbage.

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    LARSON.E. WHIPSNADE

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • Looks like another day of kids getting dragged around chapelfield and the castle maaaalllllll

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    Barny

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • The strikers want to try working in the private sector (who pay for these increases, as well) - they wouldn't last 5mins. Get real!

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    biglingers

    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

  • I heard that teachers still mark homework, make lesson plans and cut out shapes in coloured paper even when on strike or on holiday in Tuscany....

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    Rhombus

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Fact into Doubt - How dare you comment on my Mothers career experience as fictional? Once again you have no idea of what you are talking about. An apology is in order.

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    Lord 'Elp-Us

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Hi Bev, I appreciate your viewpoint and can see why many would feel a minority have voted for strike action. However, you ask if I really think the other 77% of members who chose not to vote are in favour of strike action. The answer is, I have no idea if they are for, or against because they decided not to vote! Therefore, out of those who chose to have their say, a majority went with strike action. I'm a great believer that if you don't exercise your right to vote, you can't complain if you don't get the result you want. Therefore I believe that a majority have voted for strike action. Anyone who didn't vote has essentially decided not to make a decision, but will accept the support of their union anyway. Lord 'Elp Us, as you say it was a fictional portrayal of you. Just like the fictional idea that your mother was passed over for promotion because she didn't believe in strike action. Which to me, sounds like a default tactic of the right wing, to blame others when things aren't going your way (like immigrants, teachers, giant chickens). You're right, I know nothing about you - but seemingly I touched a nerve x

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    Fact Into Doubt Won't Go

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Fact Into Doubt Won't Go - For your information. The GMB ballot results show a 23% TURNOUT. Of this 73% voted in favour of strike. This is called a 3 to 1 majority vote in favour of strike. Do you really think the other 77% of members who chose not to vote are in favour of strike action?

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    Bev

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Fact into Doubt you know nothing about me and I do not appreciate your fictional portrayal of me. What I wrote about my Mother is 100% true, so please do not use the default tactic of the left wing which is to smear anyone with a view that doesn't agree with them. You accuse others here posting comments about things they know nothing about, I suggest you take a leaf out of your own book.

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    Lord 'Elp-Us

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Strike on Friday so the kids can finish Thursday. Less disruption to the kids and a long weekend thrown in!

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    Andy T

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • " The communist infiltrated NUT....... " . The days of Philby and Maclean are long gone , and the Berlin wall came down in 1989 . Did no one tell you ?

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    LARSON.E. WHIPSNADE

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • The communist infiltrated NUT now seems to be full of hypocrites They say the children are important but too regularly withdraw the pre paid for service ruining children's life chances. By now most people know this strike is greed and politically driven. The taxpayer has no choice but to fund this largesse. Taxpayers need a choice whether they want to fund Public Sector groups that strike & disrupt. Would you frequent a service that cannot deliver, for specious reasons? Of course the could strike in their imminent 6 week break . . .

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    J Smith

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • My Mother was a teacher but she did not go into the profession to strike. She was horrified by the influence and pressure placed on her by left wing militants in the teaching union in order that she should conform with their disruptive action. She did not and is convinced that when opportunities for promotion came along they went to teachers who were more politically motivated in line with the Union. I do not support the strike and suggest if teachers find their job so difficult they should consider a change of job.

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    Lord 'Elp-Us

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Same old, uninformed one-liners from people with bigoted, outdated idea of what teachers and public sector woprkers actually do. As quite a few say below, some commentators should rty going into a classroom, see what happens, and how long they last. As for teh comments that "strike action has been voted for by a minority of union members"...thats democracy pal! When was the last time a government was elected bu a majority of these eligible to vote? If people cant be a***Dd to vote they shouldnt complain about the democratic outcome

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    Stephen Strange

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Wishing all those on strike on Thursday every support. The decision to strike is never taken lightly, and workers have shown remarkable restraint over recent years, as government austerity policies have seen reductions in jobs and increased workloads for a dwindling workforce. A 1% pay rise (and many public sector workers won't even get this) is derisory after years of pay freezes. Strikers are taking those 'tough decisions' that government ministers are so fond of talking about - and not before time.

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    angela

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • As a member of the teaching profession I have been doing 60+ hour weeks all my working life. I always work during holidays and yes of course conditions have deteriorated in terms of security, behaviour, workload and parental support. However striking will never solve any of these. It will further alienate parents when we need them to help our young people. Yes I am worse off in real terms every year but there are not many people who aren't. Do I wish I had a bigger pay rise? Of course I do, but there are so many people worse off I will not be striking. Having to deal with students from poorer households and working with brilliant young people who have little or no aspiration shows me that it is the bottom end of the income scale which needs addressing.

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    TheTruth

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Striking teachers fined a day's pay! Job for life? ....really! 9.00-3.30???? As I said borish, out of date nonsense.

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    Sportswagon

    Tuesday, July 8, 2014

  • Ha Ha Ha genius comments. You really do not have a clue about the life of a teacher do you. So much so you use the same old classic put down "teachers have loads of holiday and should try working 40 hrs a week. Well maybe you should go into a school and see. Teachers are often in from 7 am to help run breakfast clubs so that YOU can get to work early. Then they have a working day putting up with disruptive pupils of whom they're not allowed to give detentions to unless they've given parents a weeks notice in advance. Or because little Timmy only got a B- instead of an A+ in a piece of work then have to deal with abusive parents. They're also expected to be social workers and carers rolled into one. Oh then there are the after school clubs which run into the early evening so YOU can squeeze that extra bit of work in. When they finally leave around 6pm it's time to prep for the next days lessons. Oh by which time it's 9pm best get on with marking the work from today... Before they know it 12am so they're actually working 16 hr days 5 days a week. I will move on to the holiday issue... Huge misconception that they have 13 weeks holiday... Well half terms are usually marking or catching up with missed work. Summer holidays are usually ill with stress first 2 weeks.... If they have a family then go on holiday second 2 weeks... Best start prepping for the new term third 2 weeks... You think I'm joshing I'm not... So please feel free to be a teacher and try it for a term. I'm a betting man and would say you'd not last more than a week. So please get off their backs

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    nobbly1

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Hi 'Andy', IF THAT'S EVEN YOUR REAL NAME. It simply isn't true that public sector workers get more than their private sector equivalent. My fiancee for example looked at a job the same as hers but in the private sector that pays over £2000 a year more. There may be SOME public sector jobs that compare favourably to private, however there are also plenty that DON'T. It's imply not accurate to say, as you have, that public sector get more money than private. Also, a majority of Union members voted to strike. It's not like the elections where someone with 20% of the vote can still get the chance to run things, it's majority or nothing. So you're wrong there. As for my rant, I had a great time sticking up for what I believe is fair.

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    Fact Into Doubt Won't Go

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Well 'Fact,' I hope you feel better for that rant. Teachers do undertake a difficult job, but so do many others. Many of them deserve better support from parents than they receive. However, we still continue to fall behind other countries educational standards and teachers and their unions have to take some responsibility for that! This is a strike NOT just confined to teachers and they all need to recognise that public sector staff continue to be paid more than the private sector equivalents and their pension benefits are far mostly better than the private sector. And also remember the strike action has been voted for by a minority of union members.

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    andy

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Jen: Norfolk County Council is facing cuts of £182 million pounds over the next three years and you think council workers jobs are "pretty secure"? You clearly, like many of the posters on this topic, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

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    Cyril the Canary

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Ah, here we go, people who have no idea what they're on about expressing faux outrage because the wonderful world of social media dictates that everyone who can type suddenly must impart their opinions even if if it has sod all to do about them. Well, allow me to join in! 1: It's not just teachers. It's all kinds of public sector workers, right down to the cleaners who haven't had a pay increase in years. On a personal level, I've had one 1% pay increase in the last 6 years. SIX YEARS. All I would like is for my £8 an hour to go up at least somewhere near inflation. For all you winging, it's not about having more money, it's just about having something like what you were paid to start with. 2: Teachers are rubbish, I agree. Why? Because they clearly aren't teaching people about empathy, given the comments here. "I know public sector workers haven't had a pay increase but WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?" 3: Jobs aren't secure, no matter how many times people who know nothing write about it. We live in times of zero contracts and relief hours, where you may or may not get called upon. 4: "Try being self employed". What has this got to do with being a teacher? Or a public sector worker? Okay, tell you what, I will, and I'll do what some of my self employed friends do, and enjoy the benefits of claiming VAT back on "business expenses". 5: Back to the whole "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN". What kind of example does this set for the children? Well, maybe it will teach them that when you really believe in something that it's the right think to do to try and so something about it, rather than roll over and have your belly tickled. 6: Purple Monkey Dishwasher. 7: I've worked in both private and public sector. To many people treat it like an us vs them situation. It really isn't. Point being, there's pros and cons to all of this. When I worked in the private sector, I used to get a bonus at the end of the year when my work did well. I don't get that in public sector. But I'm fine with that, I'm not going to get angry at private sector for having something I don't. So don't get angry at some people for trying to get something which is fundamentally just about FAIRNESS. It's not about being greedy. If you think wanting more than 1% cost of living pay increase in 6 years is greedy, then I feel sorry for you.

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    Fact Into Doubt Won't Go

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • No way should parents pay fines for taking kids out of school unless fines are imposed on striking teachers. It is time teachers worked 40 hours a week for 47 weeks of the year, to give our kids a real educational opportunity. For many strikers, teaching is not a vocation it is access to long vacations. No wonder kids are not ready for work when they leave school. 1% of an already good salary with pension is a good offer. If teaching is really so bad, do something else with 12 weeks holiday a year.

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    Union Jack

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • "Secure jobs" JEN? Support staff are the first to go if pupil numbers drop. They can go year to year not knowing if they will have a job the following September. Lord''Elp Us - you do realise that although there is a huge amount of school holiday staff still only get the standard 4 weeks + bank holidays pay. The rest is unpaid. Also please remember that they are unable to take leave during term time so always have to pay the more expensive holiday rates.

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    Bev

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Whilst I find it inconvenient having to look after my own child for the day (not). I do support teachers and all the other public sector workers. They have suffered cuts pay freezes redundancies to name a few. I could not afford to loose a days pay for standing up for myself, so good on em. As for the ingnorants who think think the teachers imposed to 'fine' system, think again - ITS Mr CAMERON and Mr GOVE doing that, the same people screwing these professionals.

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    outspoken

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • The only people I know who ever got anything from striking were the tube workers because they could bring the capital to a stop. A day here and there for public sector workers is not going to make any difference. All they are going to do is to lose a days pay just so their well paid union leaders can have their 5 minutes of fame in front of the tele. Even if Labour gets in, in 2015 nothing will change. They intend keeping to the Coalition`s spending levels so all of this is just a complete and utter waste of time and their money. But at least the council coffers will be better off as they will be deducting the pay of those on strike. Not a very clever move.

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    BG

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Here we go again.. From a parents point of view this is an unauthorised absence..Think I will fine the school. Yes I do appreciate how hard they work and the abuse received at time as I have worked within a school. But I also feel this was their career choice.. Try a 12 hr day on minimum wage dealing with drunken youths and then cleaning up the mess left behind on a busy weekend. My career choice so.. no I do not moan or strike. I just get on with it. Do I get the holidays teachers receive.. Do I get a day off for "training" just so I can clean my workplace.. NO... Just work hard to provide for my family and now have the stress of having to find childcare as you the teachers feel hard done by.. boo hoo!!

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    blonde

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Well said Nobbly1... I've seen these guys at work and most of the moaners on here with their predictable BORISH comments wouldn't last a day in a classroom. Politicians should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for managing education so woefully for so many years and for actively undermining public servants. When the Fire Service and schools are wrecked I hope these bloggers remember who did it.

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    Sportswagon

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • All these people moaning about the teachers striking etc. have you tried being a teacher? You've got Michael Gove systematically destroying education, and what morale they had left. Teachers being abused by pupils and parents because they dared to give little Tarquin a B- instead of an A+ etc? Then you're offered a measly 1% pay rise for your troubles while MP's then have an 11% pay rise. I think you can see why teachers are striking. I for one support them as they do a Stirling job. Get off their backs!

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    nobbly1

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Teachers should try being self-employed. If they don't like the job then try working in the private sector and then they will see how well off they are with their secure jobs and pensions. Funny how they won't be in strike in August when they are on their extended summer holidays! No sympathy for them, they should be thankful they have a job.

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    Lord 'Elp-Us

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • At least they have pretty secure jobs.

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    JEN

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Wish I could have a 1 per cent rise. I haven't had a rise for years and I am under that £14,880 figure.

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    JEN

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • 7p per hour pay rise is not worth anything when you look at how much the cost of living has gone up. However there must be room for negotiation. Unqualified workers are starting to earn nearly as much as trained school support staff. Support staff obviously do not do the job for the money but they do deserve better.

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    Bev

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Yet another teacher's day off? Have they not noticed everyone is having to cut spending these days due to wage cuts or freezes?

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    Keifs Bigland

    Monday, July 7, 2014

  • Take a child out of school without permission and risk a fine. Withdraw your services to teach a child – effectively they may as well be at home – and ?? Fine the teachers. Double standards or what! As far as the rest are concerned, who will notice?

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    Andy T

    Monday, July 7, 2014

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