North Norfolk District Council cabinet votes unanimously to axe CCTV

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Monday, October 7, 2013
2:45 PM

North Norfolk District Council’s (NNDC) cabinet has voted to scrap CCTV - but has given affected towns six weeks to decide whether they want to fund and run the service themselves.

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Cabinet members voted unanimously this morning to axe the cameras, which cost the council about £200,000 annually, by March 31 next year.

But they agreed to contact the town councils in Cromer, Fakenham, North Walsham, Sheringham and Wells, where cameras are installed.

They will be asked whether they want to join forces and run the system themselves, or whether any of them is prepared to take on the job individually, for their own community.

If the answer to either option is “yes”, NNDC will hand over the existing camera equipment to the town or towns for free.

Once the six weeks has elapsed, any town which has expressed an interest in running the service will have a further six weeks to come up with a firm proposal.

Rhodri Oliver, NNDC deputy leader, said the council needed to find a little over £1m of revenue savings by 2016-2017.

There was no firm proof that CCTV reduced crime and the police were adamant that they could not contribute towards its costs.

“We are working in the context of the worst cuts in the history of local government, or at least since the 1974 reform act,” said Mr Oliver.

“All decisions are going to be difficult but we need to protect our front-line services, and balance the budget,”

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21 comments

  • do any of the n.n.d.c. venture into sheringham on a Friday or Saturday night, carnival evening, or any time an event is on-going, when the people who cause trouble knew when the c.c.t.v. was operating, they caused so much less hassle, so now they know there is no monitoring, the onus will fall on the emergency services, whether police, paramedics etc, to take up the role of quick response units to something that could have been seen as likely to cause problems. also what about the people made redundant due to this "political" decision. who pays for them? it seems like savings are being made by n.n.d.c. by passing the issue over to others, like stuff you jack !

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    Sarah Baldwin

    Saturday, October 12, 2013

  • 'There was no firm proof that CCTV reduced crime'. So what was the point of installing it un the first place? Also if I remember correctly when it was first installed in Sheringham, business were are to contibute to the cost of installation, are the ones that did now get that money back?

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    sheringhamlocal

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Do a search through the EDP's articles on CCTV coverage, including a recent article on the use of CCTV after an attack in Norwich, and you get a very different impression of the effectiveness of CCTV to that claimed by the NNDC - apparently more interested in minor savings than public safety. Perhaps they could cover this by savings on administrative costs and fees to councillors rather than destroying front line services.

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    JB

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • I to can understand that NNDC does not have the money to fund the CCTV cameras due to the cost savings they have got to make, BUT, the lack of interest by the council in getting the manager to make it pay is short sighted. They have not asked businesses or councils to contribute. How much will the CCTV managers wages save? Oh the CCTV at Wells prevented a potential crime spree this last week! Where were the last two ATM raids in the area? Reepham and Holt NO CCTV

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    N Beale

    Wednesday, October 9, 2013

  • @WHSSEWWL You make a good point but there is a rational explanation: The reception works which will cost £147,500 are a one off Capital cost for NNDC which will then provide on-going revenue savings through efficiencies of around £30,000 per annum. Thus this project, although it has been poorly portrayed represents an invest to save exercise given the scale of savings in the Revenue Budget that need to be found. Hope that helps.

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    Constituent

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Thanks sheringhamlocal, i note your comment about no actual proof that the cctv reduced crime, to that end you may be right on the whole however im sure its a good detterant and more to the point its an amazing investigative tool to aid prosecuting the offenders that the cctv did not deter or as you intimated stop in the first place! Crime rates or detection rates will change without it! Sadly for the worst i fear.

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    Paul Roach

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • Perhaps the NNDC Cabinet members should have a look at the EDP's recent and archive articles on the effectiveness of CCTV, including a recent police appeal for CCV coverage after an attack in Norwich - these articles paint a totally different picture to that of the NNDC's "justification" for the cuts - apparently the NNDC is more interested in minor cost savings than public safety. They need to make savings but they should be looking at savings on administration and fees to Councillors before the front line services!

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    JB

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • So have all the other councils given up on CCTV? Where does the figure £200, 000 come from, were they intending to install a whole new system. These figures do not appear to add up, something isn't right here.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • So if the priority is protecting frontline services and balancing the books, why are these Conservatives pouring OUR money down the drain fighting the Bodham Wind Turbine at the High Court? What screwed up priorities. Vote them out. Perhaps the cabinet members might like to take a pay cut too?

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    Callum Ringer

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Thanks sheringhamlocal, i note your comment about no actual proof that the cctv reduced crime, to that end you may be right on the whole however im sure its a good detterant and more to the point its an amazing investigative tool to aid prosecuting the offenders that the cctv did not deter or as you intimated stop in the first place! Crime rates or detection rates will change without it! Sadly for the worst i fear.

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    Paul Roach

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • If it is the Cabinet that has voted unanimously to axe the cameras that is not the same as all the NNDC Councillors voting for this - what do the Councillors who are not in the Cabinet and who represent the towns affected think - what message are they getting from their constituents?

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    JB

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Just a thought, do they have CCTV at the council's offices? If so they can now turn it off, as there's no evidence that it prevents crime.

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    sheringhamlocal

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I can understand that NNDC does not have the money to fund the CCTV cameras due to the cost savings they have got to make, BUT, when they are now starting a new reception refurbishment today at a cost of around £200,000 it beggars belief that they decided on a new reception over CCTV cameras!!!

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    WHSSEWWL

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Do a search through the EDP's articles on CCTV coverage, including a recent article on the use of CCTV after an attack in Norwich, and you get a very different impression of the effectiveness of CCTV to that claimed by the NNDC - apparently more interested in minor savings than public safety. Perhaps they could cover this by savings on administrative costs and fees to councillors rather than destroying front line services.

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    JB

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • Apologies - that which though lost suddenly re-appeared - twice!

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    JB

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • It is unfortunately untenable to fund the CCTV system within the constraints placed on local government by central government. Whilst there will undoubtedly be some who would want to see this service continue it can only be done at the expense of something else. If town councils want it then they will either have to pay for it or find a legitimate way of raising the money required by levying a charge on either shopkeepers or citizens. Neither of the above seems likely does it?

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    Douglas McCoy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • do any of the n.n.d.c. venture into sheringham on a Friday or Saturday night, carnival evening, or any time an event is on-going, when the people who cause trouble knew when the c.c.t.v. was operating, they caused so much less hassle, so now they know there is no monitoring, the onus will fall on the emergency services, whether police, paramedics etc, to take up the role of quick response units to something that could have been seen as likely to cause problems. also what about the people made redundant due to this "political" decision. who pays for them? it seems like savings are being made by n.n.d.c. by passing the issue over to others, like stuff you jack !

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    Sarah Baldwin

    Saturday, October 12, 2013

  • if anyone actually reads this site, why are comments being posted 2 maybe three times consecutively when only posted once ?

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    Sarah Baldwin

    Saturday, October 12, 2013

  • So big brother has run out of money! Something creepy about visiting a charming Norfolk town,then looking up and realising you are being watched! Perhaps the crime prevention aspect of these things was overestimated,and cost cutting gave the council an excuse to get rid of them!

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    Harry Rabinowitz

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I can understand that NNDC does not have the money to fund the CCTV cameras due to the cost savings they have got to make, BUT, when they are now starting a new reception refurbishment today at a cost of around £200,000 it beggars belief that they decided on a new reception over CCTV cameras- does not make any sense!!!

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    WHSSEWWL

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I can understand that NNDC does not have the money to fund the CCTV cameras due to the cost savings they have got to make, BUT, when they are now starting a new reception refurbishment today at a cost of around £200,000 it beggars belief that they decided on a new reception over CCTV cameras!!!

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    WHSSEWWL

    Monday, October 7, 2013

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