Controversial proposed council cuts, one of which a charity warned could set back community based social care in Norfolk by at least 10 years, will be considered by councillors for the first time next week.

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Norfolk County Council has proposed £140m worth of cuts and savings over the next three years and asked people for views through its Putting People First consultation.

On Tuesday, the first of those proposals - in adult social services and cultural services - will be considered by councillors on the community services overview and scrutiny panel.

Of the adult social services proposals - aimed at saving almost £60m over three years - 530 different responses were received, including more than 480 individual respondents and more than 50 organisations. A petition signed by more than 500 people was also received.

The most responded-to proposal was one to cut funding for wellbeing activities for people receiving support through a personal budget - to save £12m.

The majority of the responses argued against the proposal while a minority expressed support.

One organisation which strongly objected to that proposal was the charity BUILD, which works with adults and young people with sensory, physical and learning disabilities across Norfolk.

The charity’s chairman David Lundean and chief executive James Kearns said, while they recognised the challenges the council faced, some of the proposals would not only have a “significant impact on the quality of life” for the vulnerable people it supports, but could also threaten the financial viability of the charity.

On the proposed cut to personal budgets, the pair warned: “Of all the proposals in the consultation, this is the one which we believe has the potential to have the greatest impact on vulnerable adults, and in the case of adults with learning disabilities, sensory or physical disabilities, could set back community based social care, in Norfolk, by at least 10 years.”

Sue Whitaker, the council’s cabinet member for adult social services, said cuts in government funding meant services had to be hit. But she said: “The responses we’ve received have certainly given me some food for thought and I’m sure they will inform the opinions of all our members.”

The panel will make recommendations to the county council’s cabinet. Cabinet’s final savings proposals will go before a meeting of the full council on Monday, February 17, where the 2014/15 council budget is due to be agreed.

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19 comments

  • A slow clap for NCC - sell the airbase George and knock the NDR on the head too - financial problems all solved. (Although all your landowning cronies may not think so, eh?)

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    User Removed

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Fenscape you are correct, also there is to much money wasted at county hall and that needs sorting first and for most. As for top man Toby I'm afraid he Is very disappointing and a waste of space, I really thought he was going to do something but no. It's quite clear a ukip vote is a wasted vote.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Wednesday, January 1, 2014

  • Adult care already cut to ribbons, day-centres closed, as personal budgets gave alternatives to users. Now more than likely personal budgets to be cut. No opposition in NCC to the cuts. The Labour Party has sold out those who voted for them and just to satisfy their lust for power, they are pathetic.

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    Gina

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Andy, I'm all for cutting waste. Unfortunately, it is the logic of the free market that we have to pay vast salaries to get the best people yo run things. Obviously there is something flawed in that logic when you look at the salaries and bonuses of many in the private sector, especially in banking. They reward themselves for failure, by giving themselves salaries and bonuses beyond the wildest dreams of most ordinary people. Councils were encouraged to get the 'best' managers from the private sector, who of course command high salaries (often with no experience of the public sector), who are paid to deliver the privatisation of services because this will 'improve efficiency & give the public the best deal'. Councillors are expected to understand the fine detail of complex contracts and then get criticised for opting for the lowest bidder only to find that company can't always deliver what they promise. Things were often better when workers were properly paid, trained and worked for the council rather than a private company whose main raison d'etre is to make profits for share holders. I'm not trying to say that local government is perfect and there were many justified criticisms of the old system, of which waste is one.

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    pablo

    Wednesday, January 1, 2014

  • NCC are sitting on a fortune in their County Farms portfolio of land and farmhouse. Why do taxpayers have to fund those who want to be farmers when there is no similar funding for others? It's about time all this property was sold and the tenants can rent from the private sector.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Norse's debt has been assumed by the County Council so they will be even more in debt. Why is it that the least able Councillors are in the cabinet while those who could sort out this problem are not. Hopefully by next May we will have Top Man Toby taking an active role and the Council will probably have every single department funded AND run at a profit. I am no financial slouch and I sit there in awe at his capabilities.

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    alecto

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Sweet Cheeks, I was talking to Top Man Toby the day before yesterday, and he remains a Top Man. We need to bear in mind there's a lot going on quietly behind the scenes, which all needs careful planning, so don't write them off yet.

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    Honest John

    Thursday, January 2, 2014

  • Albert Cooper you really are a prize tool

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    monkeyman

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Sell the airbase and County Farms plus scrap the incinerator and all the artycultural stuff. Drop the councillor fees expenses by 50% and tell the chief exec to job share with Suffolk on a 25% pay cut.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Wednesday, January 1, 2014

  • In response to pablo, your argument might have more credibility if so called top ranking staff were not paid so much and we stopped rewarding the failure of those who have left. The proposals for reducing spending included a large element of cutting waste and getting better value for money. There is still much more that could be done. We do have to live within our means - hopefully sooner rather than later - and given the propensity of government in all its forms to waste tax payers money, a smaller government is the best way to achieve this.

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    andy

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Spot on there Dave I'd rather public money is spent on those who need it than arty rubbish projects. The council don't need to employ several journalists to produce the free glossy newsletters that tells us how well they are doing spending our money. I'd also cut back committee payments. There is something wrong with a system where councillors allowances exceed the basic wage. Stephen Betts get my 2013 Scrooge award for claiming £14.00 from Norfolk Police to attend a funeral.

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    Michael Clintergate

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Wasnt it a Socialist Minister who said "Theres no money left"....!!!

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    Albert Cooper

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • I know many people whose lives have been transformed by their Personal Budgets. They get companionship, assistance, social interaction, a feeling of belonging to the community and they would truly be lost without them. Personal budgets actually save the council a lot of money.

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    samphirelover

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Its not the services which are hit, the officers or Cllr.s, but those in need of these services, real people with real needs and concerns. I'm more concerned that officers feel unable to question the priorities that are being set by central Government, concerned about the lack of business savvy in our civil service and the lack of duty for people with disabilities of all kind. Should service providers or clients be the priority of NCC?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Too many rely on the state for their existance.Get Married the council will give us a house,have a child out of Wedlock the state will provide,and the cry "its my human right" echos hollow

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    Albert Cooper

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • Have to say that I agree wholeheartedly with Honest John - about time we had a party leader in county hall such as Coke who is prepared to go the extra mile and spend his days kicking a*se to get some answers instead of the flaccid Nobbs who just rolls over whenever an interim director (£££!) enters the room before telling a kow-towing union reptile like Dunning to rally the troops as a smoke screen to his own cabinet's incompetence. To think that people actually pay a Unison sub for such a load of rubbish.....

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    Friday, January 3, 2014

  • Always remember that these cuts have been imposed by central government, the Lib Con coalition. Whatever you think of NCC they have no option but to impose these massive cuts. The current government, especially the Tories, are hell-bent on belittling public servants (teachers, social workers, government officials) and even the idea of public service, unless it's performed by volunteers. They are wedded to the ideology that the private sector operates best in free market conditions, without regulation, despite the fact that the government - well, the tax payer had to bail out the banks to keep them going - a massive failure of the free market. They have sold off the Post Office at a very low price so that something we all owned is now functioning to provide profit for shareholders, having used our money to wipe out its debts. The rail companies are all private (except East Coast Mainline, which turns a profit for the tax payer and is in the process of being privatised) and yet depend on massive taxpayer subsidy. Branson, in an off guard moment described Virgin Rail as a license to print money. The cuts could have been avoided. There are alternative ways of running things and doing things, but you wouldn't know it from reading the majority of newspapers. The whole Lib Con philosophy is to take it out on the poorest and weakest in society (who also get blamed for some of the problems) while spouting free market philosophy as the answer to all our problems when it was this free market philosophy, as practised by the banks that got us into this mess in the first place.

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    pablo

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

  • monkeyman - if you think that Albert Cooper is talking out of turn then do please pop along to the Fens sometime. No one working in the fields speaks English - not because the Eastern Europeans have taken all the jobs but because the Brits just don't want to get off their backsides and would rather claim the dole instead. Lots of jobs waiting over here, just not enough local people willing to put down their xbox controllers and get themselves a bit of respect. About time Osbourne and Cameron started sticking their toes up people's backsides over here in the East....

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    Wednesday, January 1, 2014

  • As soon as i saw it was called "Cultural services", i wanted it cut. What on earth does that mean to the non public sector Guardian reading person?

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    DaveG

    Tuesday, December 31, 2013

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