New Norwich Asda store gets go-ahead

Artist's impression of the proposed Asda at the Bally Shoe Factory in Norwich Artist's impression of the proposed Asda at the Bally Shoe Factory in Norwich

Thursday, December 6, 2012
12:18 PM

A new Asda store will be built in Norwich after city councillors granted planning permission for the scheme, less than three months after rejecting the proposal.

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Members of Norwich City Council’s planning committee this morning voted seven to five in favour of the £122m development at the former Bally Shoe Factory site.

The plans for the 5,796 sq m Asda superstore also include a gym, pub, community centre, 334-space car park and other shops at the derelict site on Hall Road, Tuckswood.

Developers say the scheme will create up to 300 jobs in the superstore and about 100 elsewhere in the scheme and council officers had recommended approval, despite the scheme being against the council’s own policies.

The plans which were approved were identical to those which were rejected by the committee in September, when the application was turned down by five votes to four.

Last time around, the Green councillors on the committee, and Liberal Democrat Caroline Ackroyd voted to refuse it, with the four votes by the Labour councillors present not enough to stop the plans being turned down.

But this time, Mrs Ackroyd, who represents Eaton, was one of those who voted in favour, saying her decision to change her mind had not come easily.

She said: “My decision to change the way I am voting is a reluctant one. I had hoped Asda would come back with a better proposal, but I have thought long and hard about this over two months.

“It is not an easy decision to come to and I do not change my mind easily.”

But she said she was voting in favour because she understood that people in the area needed to see something done with the site.

Mike Sands, Labour councillor for Bowthorpe, said: “Clearly, this development represents an opportunity that Norwich would be foolish to turn down.”

He welcomed the jobs which would be created and the boost that would bring to the local economy.

But Neil Blunt, Green city councillor for Wensum ward, questioned how many jobs would actually be created. He said: “We simply don’t know enough about the basis of this employment and whether we are letting it go through with jobs that are quite spurious.

“It’s okay us talking about 300 jobs if they are new to the city, but if they are borrowed or stolen from elsewhere, it’s not new jobs at all.”

The reasons given by the councillors for turning down the application previously was that it was too dominant for a district centre, the plans did not make best use of a brownfield site, protected trees would be removed, pedestrian access was not good enough and the car park was too dominant.

Following the last decision, in a poll organised by the Norwich Evening News, nearly four in five people said councillors had got one of the city’s biggest planning decisions for years wrong.

Almost 1,000 readers had their say in just four days, with 79pc saying that proposals for a the development near Tuckswood should have been given the go-ahead.

When built, the store will become Asda’s second superstore in the city. The other one is at Drayton High Road in Hellesdon.

• See tomorrow’s papers for the full story.

51 comments

  • Let's hope they the car park is less idiotically laid out than the Hellesdon branch

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    NorthCity

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Love the artists impression, all about in their 20's hanging around Asda, what a groovy way to spend an evening! Definitely a bad move but the more we find out about our Councillors the more we find that there are hidden agendas. Cannot accept that other supermarkets within the area do not fulfill the needs and as for employment, its all a smoke screen.

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    Marigold

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Kensey, no limitations in the argument. I was melt pointing out that labour receive huge donations from unions and coporations, and then suppot the hugely anti union Walmart. Burt bremenr glowered at this councillors to ensure they voted the right way and I reckon the press will receive advertising revenue from the new asda. Nothing libellous in these assertions. A for banging o. Saying change the record is not an argument. Please make your own arguments. Sorry to have offended you.

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    Somethingood

    Sunday, December 9, 2012

  • Good Decision! No more slogging all the way to Hellesdon, clogging up the roads, polluting the air as much, plus less to spend on fuel, more to spend instore. I'm not a greeny, but this is a green decision in my books.

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    Adam Jimpson

    Friday, December 7, 2012

  • So pleased they have made the right decision.cant wait!!!!!!!!

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    foxey

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Banging on about 18th Centurt economic models? Change the record Something Good. Suggesting that Walmart would be bribing councillors and the press in your first post and subsequently that Asda only sells bad food is surely libellous and in any event shows the limitations of your argument

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    Kensey

    Saturday, December 8, 2012

  • why should car parking be free to polluters, all car parks at supermarkets should be asked to charge in future, as they have an unfair advantage to inner City retailers and are undermining competitiveness. A bad decision that makes Norwich city planners superfluous.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Working well? China communist in all but name. The largest economic mess in years coupled with a system that enables massive benefits and contracts to a tiny minority and the fact that chinas economy is slowing. How is money created? Ask yourself that. You'll find that the quaint economic sytstem that you Randites support is failing on every level of society. Why do you hate people so much? Why don't you say what you believe in full sentences rather than pointless 10 word snipes? There are other ways of dealing with this crisis than clinging to two outdated ideas. Or don't you believe that we can sort out the planet?

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    Somethingood

    Friday, December 7, 2012

  • Somethingood, they seem to be working pretty well in Communist China, minuses the benefits that our trade unions and workers fought for and won....now get back under that stone and wait for the floods or frying to arrive.

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    nrg

    Friday, December 7, 2012

  • For all jobs that supermarkets like Asda 1.76 jobs are lost elsewhere. For every £10 spent in a supermarket £14 is generated elsewhere. For every £10 spent in a smaller shop like a butchers or a hairdressers £25 in generated in the community. It is a shame that the councillors who pass these plans have not got a clue what they are doing.

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    roger payne

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Somethingod When I see some sense from Green I may actually take your forced advice. Until then, and I don't see it happening, I will green bash as long as I wish.

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Sorry but saying change the record is not an argument and it is not libel just a personal opinion. I'm sure the press will get advertising revenue from the new asda, just the way the world works; so it is a vested interest. Bad food is a personal opinion and I never said that they bribed councillors nor did I suggest it. Again I said that political donations are a possibility. Moreover, the Labour part, who accept huge union and corporate donations, have again wandered into the contradictory quagmire of supporting Walmart, a massively anti-union company. Burt Bremner was at the debate to glower at his councillors into voting the right way. As for banging on about 18th century economic models, think I mentioned it once or twice. Could you enlighten us as to economic principles that would create stability and a sustainable future?

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    Somethingood

    Sunday, December 9, 2012

  • Irony of it, is the best that people on benefits deserve is an asda? Bad jobs and food? What about trying to do better than this for everyone. Don't think chatty classes are really the issue here.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • What a relief. If you have ever waited on Hall Road for a bus into the City at this time of year you will know exactly what I mean. And we can't all drive to Tesco. Those silly people who wanted to turn this into a political football are a disgrace. Mostly they were penalising OAPs and anyone on benefits, but then again I suppose they are nice chatty middle class people voted in by the City 'intellectuals' so probably don't really care much for the less fortunate.

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    The irony of it

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Common sense prevails at last.

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    Abraham

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • The best part of this proposal is the gym. What a result. I hope it's decent.

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    DT

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Ingo. Please explain exactly how one gets to this, when built, without being a "polluter" I imagine one could walk, or perhaps ride a horse, hope it doesn't fart, or maybe there is some form of transport I haven't discovered yet? If your thinking public transport I'm virtually certain it pollutes too? One is confused. There is another question, related. Even assuming that by some magic you manage to get to the store without polluting, how the BH do you imagine the food gets there!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • IT Man Good to see that at least two of us in this post can equate Green and Lunacy!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • good news now I will save petrol and the enviroment from having to drive to over priced Tesco or 7 mile round trip to ASDA so will save the enviroment - I may even cycle along the well lit cycle path that ends right at the site - weldone labour on green issues

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    Jimmy Hupperby

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • why should car parking be free to polluters, all car parks at supermarkets should be asked to charge in future, as they have an unfair advantage to inner City retailers and are undermining competitiveness. A bad decision that makes Norwich city planners superfluous.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Stupidity 1, Sensible Planning Decisions 0. What other planning policies will our Labour councillors (and LibDem turncoat) reject?

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    DrJB

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Somethingod You may misunderstand me. When I say anything green is bad, that's what I mean as all we see from the Greeiots is usually well minded, perhaps, but stupidity nevertheless. Take, for example, the £2,000,000,000 just donated from your and my taxes, in a country struggling in recession, given to the 3rd world by the arch Greeniot Ed Davey, to supply green solutions to problems in Africa, S America etc. Now you'll perhaps see what i mean that Green usually equals idiocy!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • No sense in this. Economy is massacred and perpetual growth is a myth. You hold onto outdated a 18th century economics and create a mess wherever you go. People who work in the superstore invariably give their money back to them when they do their shopping for convenience. No news on a living wage. There is no sense in this decision. It was a done deal. Doubtless the press and labour will get their payment from Walmart soon in donations and advertising space.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Is ed Daley a Green Party member or greenwash brigade?

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Ingo, if other retailers and shopping centres are too greedy as to not also provide free parking then more fool them. And the best thing that councils in Norfolk could do is give free parking on all of the sites they own. For too long some of these district councils have made a killing on car parking, to the detriment of their town centres - as people have started to avoid paying it and head elswhere. Other areas have tried it, and free parking in town centres brings back footfall. That's the answer, not to start suggesting supermarkets charge for parking. What lunacy. It would be business suicide for them.

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    DT

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Losers - should have stood their ground and fought.

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    oldowl

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • It was always a done deal...as the NDR will be also !

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    Albert Cooper

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • IT man and maggot, It's not about the green flag waving brigade. Not everyone in the world can have three cars. I like driving as much as anyone and driving is great, but its fleeting as prices for oil extraction climb and it becomes unsustainable. No one is trying to take your car away...it's alright. But be aware that this the economic bubble we live in has burst and if we believe that it will be back to normal soon then we are wrong. We need to look at a different economy, one built on stability and morals. Not huge corporations fighting each other for the spoils. I really agree with roger Payne, good research.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • IT Man Good to see that at least two of us in this post can equate Green and Lunacy!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • A good decision. There are always pros and cons in these sorts of issues, but in these straitened times I would rather see commercial activity than nothing at all.

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    dancer7

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Yay!!!! "nuff said"

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    Maggot

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Ingo, do you mean the inner city retailers who can't be bothered to provide parking for their customers ?

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    GoodRockinDaddy

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Typical has only one "l", can't recall seeing any reasonable comments. I can only assume you are happy to see £2,000,000,000 going to useless green idiocy in the 3rd world, I don't.

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Typicall, can't be bothered to reply to my reasonable comments.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Good news prevails over green lunacy at last - jobs and the regeneration of a derelict site was always the correct way forward - now they are whingeing about car parking! Car parking should be free everywhere with the amount we are taxed - I will not give up my cars and I enjoy that old pastime of going out for a drive. If I choose to have three cars, then as long as they are all taxed, tested and insured it has nothing to do with the green flag waving brigade.

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    IT Man

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • What is your source? But Lets be clear investment in green technology is what is needed windup merchant. There is a clear link between poverty terrorism, in security and our financial bubble. You don't get to pick and choose where it goes. You give the Green Party far too much power as they are not near central government and as a lab- Tory still clinging on to a failed economic system you'll know that that speculative figure you plucked out of nowhere, is it cumulative, one year? How is it paid? Do you even know how money is made. Until you do stop green bashing.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • DrJB I almost agree with you, but I'm sure you'll agree that anything the Green party says or does is immediately, and usually......wrong. Therefore anything they object to is usually a good idea for those of us with normal brains!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Interesting , from the artists impression it looks just like an old shoe factory !

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    SHOOK

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Greens nil, Asda 1! Always a good score. Anything which is anti Green is always good. Well done Asda this time round!

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    windup

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • thank goodness for this sensible decision. I live on the opposite side of the city to the present ASDA . Being on a low income I find them cheaper I do my main shop there once a month, It will save me fuel, I just hope the prices will be the same as the main shop, unlike Tesco, whose price varies from branch to branch

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    lucy

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Marvellous work, my congratulations to all those involved. Regads, Whiley.

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    Whiley Boy

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Fab news, bring it on, can't wait! and please note ingo wagenknecht - a 15 minute drive instead of 45 minutes thus SAVING polution!

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    catalonia13

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Having done a massive piece of research on a well known price comparison website (a basket of Bread, Milk, Bananas and Potatoes) I found ASDA to be 10 percent cheaper than Tesco (£4.33 compared to £4.79). That means I can save 46p towards my council tax, surely a good thing!

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    Rhombus

    Friday, December 7, 2012

  • Hoorah, can't wait for it to be completed and just around the corner too!

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    Engle1970

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • For all jobs that supermarkets like Asda 1.76 jobs are lost elsewhere. For every £10 spent in a supermarket £14 is generated elsewhere. For every £10 spent in a smaller shop like a butchers or a hairdressers £25 in generated in the community. It is a shame that the councillors who pass these plans have not got a clue what they are doing.

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    roger payne

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • How many Supermarkets wanted,and how many needed in Norwich ?There is huge Tesco at Harford Bridge,to cater for trade far beyond the local area let alone Tuckswood,and a Sainsburys on Queens Road,both within easy reach of the locals calling for an Asda on their doorstep!

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    Albert Cooper

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • So windup any chance of your source? Answer any of the questions? Hello NRg, no one is waiting for the end of the world, just trying to live in a way that has a future. Sadly the outdated failing economic principles of the 18th century that you adhere to are failing. Walmart stores are not the answer to this not is doing exactly the same as we have done in the past.

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    Somethingood

    Friday, December 7, 2012

  • We might as well fill Norwich or Norfolk for that matter with supermarkets, charity shops and fast food outlets as little else will want do business in a place that is fast turning into nothing but a cheap tacky dump.

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    Cuthbert J. Twillie

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Typos are common windup. You haven't divulged sources or responded to any of my points. Tell me again is ed Davey a member of the Green Party, where is this money from? Is it money that is loaned? Is it money that is for research? What is it? There are people who don't like our taxes going to a lot of things, some that have been proved to fail, like bailing out banks, illegal wars or subsidies to big business.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Clearly wind up you are a misanthropic individual. Anything anti green is good. Why people have to put up with your bigoted narrow minded comments is beyond me.? And Stuart if you disagree with facts that is fine but you are both clinging onto a failing economic system that needs reforming. I live in the area so don't try that card. Superstores rarely make a weekly budget more affordable. Giving below average wages and all other problems. I never said it was corruption. It is just the way the world works.

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    Somethingood

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

  • Lets hope all green thingybobs, crawl back under their stones and wait quietly for the end of the world.

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    nrg

    Thursday, December 6, 2012

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