Is Norwich City Council right to consider action to crack down on begging?

A new campaign aims to encourage people to give to charities rather than to Norwich beggars. A new campaign aims to encourage people to give to charities rather than to Norwich beggars.

Monday, October 7, 2013
11:10 AM

People in Norwich are to be urged to stop giving money to beggars as part of a major new campaign which aims to redirect money to charities which help the homeless.Norwich City Council is set to launch the alternative giving campaign because of concerns that more beggars are taking to the city centre streets.

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Officers at City Hall fear Norwich is being specifically targeted by people travelling into the city to beg because they can get up to £50 begging to fuel drug and alcohol addictions.

The plan is for Norwich to follow in the footsteps of Oxford, Leeds and Cambridge, by discouraging people from giving to beggars, but instead encouraging donations to recognised charities.

In a report which will go before city councillors this week, Ermir Prendi, the council’s single homeless and rough sleeper coordinator, says: “It is now becoming apparent that Norwich is seen as such a good place to beg, that some people are actually travelling from outside the city on a daily basis to do just that.

“This is because the returns are greater than where they live. People begging in Norwich can make £50 per day because of the generosity of residents and visitors.

“Unfortunately, most people who beg use the proceeds to buy alcohol and drugs. By begging, they make themselves vulnerable and put themselves in dangerous situations.

“Begging attracts anti-social behaviour, violence, crime, drug-dealing and exploitation. Giving to people who beg is not a benign act. It can have fatal consequences.”

The campaign, which will be funded through a grant provided by the Department for Communities and Local Government, will feature posters and publicity, with QR codes and web links so people can make donations to recognised charities which help the homeless.

Mr Prendi said, in his report: “Street begging is becoming increasingly visible in Norwich. Previously it was almost exclusively associated with the nighttime economy, although, more recently it has become a daytime issue.

“Popular perceptions link begging to homelessness, however, contrary to these perceptions most people who beg are not homeless, and are using the money they receive to support a drug or alcohol addiction.”

He said Norwich officially has six verified rough sleepers and many of those who beg actually have homes, either through the city council, housing associations or other organisations.

But he added: “There are examples of individuals who have lost their accommodation and have become entrenched in a street lifestyle through their reliance on late night begging to fund their substance misuse.

“The individuals concerned would rather maximise begging opportunities than be accommodated.

“Donating to a local charity is a better way to ensure that your money is spent on finding real and long lasting solutions to homelessness and substance addiction.”

One of the goals of the campaign is that, by making begging, which is against the law, less profitable, it will force those who beg to address their real needs, with the council working with police and health agencies to support them.

The alternative giving campaign has the backing of Norfolk police. Superintendent Dave Marshall, Norwich policing commander, said: “Anything which can help us support the lives of people who are homeless in the city is positive.

“Often, by giving to those who are begging people are just helping them to maintain a destructive and damaging lifestyle.

“We acknowledge these people need help and we hope such a scheme could help those in most need get their lives back on track.”
Other organisations which are backing the campaign include St Martins Housing Trust, Salvation Army (Pottergate Arc), Norwich Foodbank, Kings Community Initiative, The Matthew Project and the Big Issue.

The city council’s controlling Labour cabinet will be asked on Wednesday to agree to launch the alternative giving campaign.

65 comments

  • these beggers are no different than RBS and Lloyds . They are asking for money which you will never get back. These beggers are probably more honest than RBS and Lloyds because they dont lie to you telling you will get your money back

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    milecross

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • Daisy Roots, you make a lot of sense. NigelS - how naive are you? I guess you're around 19. You'll learn.

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    el dingo

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I run a charity with staff members. We all get paid. We have no financial support from any tax payers it's from private enterprise. All charities are structured differently and administered by the Charity Commission. All charities have to declare their financial status. You can look. It's free. Then you can decide where to put your money as an informed decision.

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    NR1 Guru

    Friday, October 11, 2013

  • About time to, it is wrong to beg, they are a pest

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    Derek McDonald

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Thank goodness! Don't you just hate that pang of guilt when you're going about your business (via House of Fraser, Debenhams etc) and some down and out probably on drugs and lord knows what else pop's your blissful bubble and asks for "a bit of spare change"? The audacity of it! Bet they have a detached house with double garage and two kids in the suburbs and get a free exotic holiday twice a year (just like me) ALL COURTESY OF THE TAX PAYER no less. Bet they're all foreigners too.

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    frank young

    Friday, October 11, 2013

  • Handing over cash to street beggars will not encourage them to try harder to seek the right help.

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    Benefit

    Thursday, October 10, 2013

  • The worst offenders are the big issue sellers, I suppose that doesn't count as begging? Even so they are a pain in the backside.

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    John L Norton

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Agree Chuggers are a bigger problem than beggars most beggars will accept you have no money and won't chase you down the street when you refuse to give them your creditcard number.

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    Yellow Fox

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • God the people of this country are turning into nasty mean spirited types. This is all the fault of the Tory government targetting and harrassing anyone who is poor or sick. Homelessness is going up and so too will crime. I will decide if i want to give money to beggers or not and will not be told by some rich council executive. Having spent time living on the streets back in the day I am more than grateful for the charity of others that helped me get out of my situation and live a relatively normal life. So those who think giving to beggars does no good are just plain wrong. As for them using drugs or buying drink... wouldn't you if you had no hope, no life, no future?

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    spamfish

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Worse thing you can do is give to Charities, as only about 3% of the donated monies makes it way to the people that needed.

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    Smiffy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • The reason why the number of big issue sellers has gone up is because there are more homeless people on the whole. I first noticed the increase after the credit crunch, so please don't judge them. I'm someone who's actually friends with homeless people and they honestly are people who've fallen on hard times.

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    Lily

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • The "Chuggers" are more of a nuisance because they harrass and try and collar you playing on guilt. At least the beggars just sit there.

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    Andy T

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Let me lie to rest some on the ignorant comments regarding charities: They do not pay directors, instead they are governed by unpaid trustees. They have to pay tax. Their expenses payments are subject to the same rules as laid down and enforced by HMRC. Uniformed comments to the contrary are very damaging and spiteful. True if you want to see charity work closer to home then donate locally. There are a lot of paid people who are employed by charities who really care about what goes on around them and get out there and do invaluable work, often criticised by those who do not seek the facts before laying forth their opinions.

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    NigelS

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I grew up with my parents working on Salvation Army homeless shelters. I was always told by them to never give money to the beggars as they would just spend it on drink and drugs, whereas they could go to any of the homeless shelters and get a place to stay the night or at least a hot meal. The one in Swindon we lived opposite was a longer term homeless shelter where people got somewhere to stay until they got back on their feet and could get a job. Places like this also mean they have an address so they can get a job. If you want to help a beggar, the best thing you can do is point them in the direction of a shelter, or if you want to help them eat then go and buy them some food, then you aren't giving them money that can be spent on drugs etc instead of food and shelter. We also once had someone approach us asking for money for a bus as they'd lost their wallet, my Mum took him to the bus station to buy him a ticket instead, strangely enough he didn't want it, it was just another ploy to try and get money.

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    Rachel C

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • From all these posts I can see everyone has their own perception of what a beggar is. I think those that lack food and shelter should be encouraged to seek out the Salvation Army who are one of the few national charities I have time for. A good point is made about some national charities where the upper echelons skim off around £100,000 to £200,000 in a salary. It's big business for them and that is just disgusting and we should ignore them all. But let's help the local charities that work so hard and when we are happy that they are able to provide what is needed in the way of shelter and food then perhaps those still asking for money on the street can be gently pointed in the right direction. I see some posters have got off the track unsurprisingly and mentioned chuggers and I have to say I absolutely hate this form of hard selling. I take note of who they are trying to extract money on behalf of and ensure that I never donate money to them so it is really rather silly of them as I cant be the only one!

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    alecto

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Remove the chuggers before the beggars.

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    monkeynuts

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Why should we give money to "charities" instead of beggers ?. The charities have had so much money they could have eradicated the problem. They have not. Why ?. Well it would be them out of a job and who would pay for the chairman, executives, Directors and managers exorbitant pay, pensions, expense accounts, and who would pay for the plush offices in London ? Time there was a sort out of all charities, and those who are being run as a "tax free" business, their chariatible status removed, so they pay taxes (i.e RSPCA, WWF etc)

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    "V"

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • From the Telegraph In Birmingham more than half of beggars 'have own home', police find http:www.telegraph.co.uknewsuknewscrime10360054More-than-half-of-beggars-have-own-home-police-find.html

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    theanchovy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • They are too lazy to get a job, yet think we are going to work to give them money. If anyone works whilst on the dole, they are soon knicked, yet there lowlife do just the same. As soon as they authorities rid us of them the better

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    pubmandave

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Thanks shadowrun, not much to be added. Humanity sometime beggars believe.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • if norwich city council housed local people first then maybe there would not be as many beggers on the streets as there is at this moment. Why dont norwich city council tell us who they have housed in the last fifteen years and where they were all from . This would be very interesting to see the figures on how many local people got local housing

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    milecross

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • When I give money to a begger at least I see it go directly into his or her hands, whereas you never know which black hole it will disappear into with a charity. Also, the way I see it is none of us know where we might end up tomorrow, they are all there for a reason and any one of us could easily be joinig them. These people should not be treated like pigeons that aren't supposed to be fed. I personally don't believe half of what the press writes about anti-social behaviour caused by this, it's only a way for them to deter the public from giving the beggers money. The biggest perpetrators of crime and anti-social behaviour is the Government itself, if we lived in a just world then there would be no need to beg in the first place. Me, I will continue to give beggers money when I see them.

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    Ar ya reet boi?

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I don't ever give to beggars. I work hard for the money that I earn, all of which goes to support my Son and I. I'm not in a position to be able to give money away.

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    Lolly

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Marty said that it was rare to see beggars before the Thatcher years. I do remember seeing men on the tramp in the countryside in the 50s, who apparently did knock on doors and beg..I gather from my parents this was more common in the inter war years. And of course in any depression in history-the Tudor rhyme hark hark the dogs do bark is about roaming vagrant gangs. Ever since I discovered that one of my 19th C ancestors was denied settlement in a Norfolk village and forcibly removed to her place of birth so she and the baby she was expecting would not be a drain on the parish I have felt a little more charitable towards some beggars! One wonders if a state managed equivalent of the workhouse ( some still used to house men on the tramp in the early 20th C) in every town, with a guaranteed shelter and meal for anyone who could prove homelessness and then a ban on begging might not be better. But then that would cost taxpayers more than begging.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • @ Daisy Roots - How right you are. January is fast approaching and we will see significant numbers hitting the streets up and down this country. They are professionals at the job and they won`t just be sitting their begging with their tins.

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    BG

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Daisy Roots may have hit the nail upon the head there as we await a potential tsunami of migrants. Never used to see beggars much before the thatcher years, only winos and methsmen..

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    marty r

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Beggar tokens is the answer. Beside every pay and display car parking meter there is a beggar meter. You put a pound in and out pops a £1 plastic beggar token. When you see a beggar that you thinks looks in need of help or has entertained you in some way, you offer him your £1 beggar token. At the end of a hard days begging the beggar takes his takings to Norwich City Council Beggar Bank, which kindly puts it into a city vaults. The Council takes out 50% of the takings for themselves and converts the remaining 50% into real money. Its a win win. The council now has a handy stream of additional income for good causes (less admin charges) and the beggar has a few quid to spend on Marks and Spencer healthy option ready meals. I think we would have to class the beggars as self-employed from a tax view-point, or possibly as being employed part time by the council themselves (which of course would reduce unemployment figures). Now it's a win win win situation.

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    Rhombus

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • The "Chuggers" are more of a nuisance because they harrass and try and collar you playing on guilt. At least the beggars just sit there.

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    Andy T

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Beggars are a reminder that,as a so called civilised society,there are people who fall through holes in the net,often victims of circumstance. It's a bit rich for the council that gets it's income from obliging people to pay council tax,to crack down on beggars who at least give you the choice! A more helpful solution would be to give help to get people off the streets,and improve their quality of life,an aim which worthy organisations like the Salvation army are trying to achieve.

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    Harry Rabinowitz

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I noticed a couple of teenage girls hurl some abuse at a beggar near St Stephens last week. I thought to myself who is worse ,the poor beggar on the street or the lazy who has no intention of ever working and takes his money from the taxpayer, from the comfort of his own bed.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • To me this article is another way of Archant being on the same page as the Conservative Party, pick on the poorest in society. Have to say the photo depicts one of the cleanest City Beggars I have seen in a very long time, they also have a nice new bag and a new matt to sleep on.

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    che bramley

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Norwich City Council Officers say!,well they must be right.Just clear them out of town, begging is illegal just like parking in certain areas in Norwich.They soon crack down in that area,with their rotund men in green.

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    PaulH

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Based on the photo it looks as begging really does have some advantages. nice new hat, jacket, trousers, shoes. new sleeping matt and a new bag. A bit more begging could also pay for a ticket to Glastonbury. The moral of this article, DO not work for a living.

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    che bramley

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Right Nigel S. Let's get the facts straight. Charities have boards of Trustees which are the equivalent of a non executive board of a business. Then they have the person who runs the outfit which is the Chief Executive. They earn a fortune. In August the Telegraph published figures showing that 30 of them earned over £100,000. And just to make sure you don't call anyone on these posts ignorant here are a few shameful examples which were published by the Guardian who also reported on this outrage. Barnados £105,027, British Heart Foundation £115,000, Red Cross £125,000, Cancer Research £140,000, Marie Stopes £125,230, NCH £116,384. So to all those sensible people who, like me, will not donate to fill these greedy people's troughs, well done. And you Nigel S, where on earth do you get your information? You are way out of touch with reality. Stick to the facts next time.

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    alecto

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • I don't give to beggars and find the few who approach you directly in the street particularly annoying. I can spot most of those now. However, I'm happy to buy the Big Issue from Robin in Benedicts Street each week. A good read and a hand up, not a hand out. Please don't confuse beggars and buskers. Buskers, mostly musicians, add positively to Norwich's street life, even the Puppet Man, and it helps supplement their meagre earnings. Like most people, I find chuggers intensely irritating and resent having to walk their gauntlet in Gentlemans Walk or London Street.

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    Rich Hartt

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I have spoken to the homeless people themselves and most homeless people on drugs have turned to it from being homeless. and I personally don't care what they spend the money on. I'd rather give them money and risk them spending it on drugs and alcohol than to just ignore every beggar on the street. Besides, chances are that I myself may buy some drink so who am I to judge a homeless person for doing the exact same thing?

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    Lily

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • This feels rather disingenuous from the council. WIll these people really go to charities for help if they don't get money from the streets or will they turn to crime instead? After all, they already have the choice to seek help from shelters etc. I'm not sure how much (if any) money beggars cost the council, but shouldn't they be focussed on other matters in this time of crackdown. Personally, I feel more likely to want to give to beggars now that the council says we shouldn't.

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    AE

    Thursday, October 10, 2013

  • I am perfectly placed to know how the charity sector works.If I were still 19 I would know no better than you el dingo.

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    NigelS

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Most "Beggars" now busk ! so thet are,nt really begging as they are busking !

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    Albert Cooper

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • This all depends of the definition of 'Beggers'.? Anyone who is on the street asking for money, or just having a cash collecting recepticle could be deemed as begging. As Albert Cooper says, Those that are busking could be classed as begging, The charity 'chuggers' could also be classed a begging too. I have seen, not in Norwich though, some so called beggars actually finish for the day & then get into their car which is parked around the corner & drive off.

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    muttley

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • It has just occurred to me that the council might be preparing for a wave of beggars from much further afield than Norfolk.If pan pipe players found the city and even Yarmouth worth bothering with a few years ago there is no reason to think it will not be a target for organised gangs of beggars. Which is another good reason to bolster co ordinated aid for the homeless and impoverished so they do not need to beg.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • A good sub-zero ' arctic ' winter , lasting 3 - 4 months will probably do the trick. It'll keep them tucked up in their beds watching daytime T.V. for a few weeks.

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    Tudor Bushe

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • If you need a good nights sleep sleeping on the pavement, the best thing is to drink about 8 cans of strong cider, which costs about £8.00. We all need a good nights sleep, even beggars, so give em a quid bless em, and ignore the council and police on this occasion.

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    Rhombus

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • They are too lazy to get a job, yet think we are going to work to give them money. If anyone works whilst on the dole, they are soon knicked, yet there lowlife do just the same. As soon as they authorities rid us of them the better

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    pubmandave

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I run a charity with staff members. We all get paid. We have no financial support from any tax payers it's from private enterprise. All charities are structured differently and administered by the Charity Commission. All charities have to declare their financial status. You can look. It's free. Then you can decide where to put your money as an informed decision.

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    NR1 Guru

    Friday, October 11, 2013

  • Daisy Roots - I quite forgot about the traditional men on the tramp who have been with us for centuries but are not so prominent as the modern city centre beggars. Growing up in London, I only ever tended to see the winos and meths men, like used to be clustered around the old Hungerford Bridge, but they never pestered you and largely kept themselves to themselves.

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    marty r

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • No action taken against the nuisance chuggers who accost you as you go bout your business. Its legalised begging.

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    Crazy

    Wednesday, October 9, 2013

  • Perhaps those most critical should try sleeping rough instead of splurging vile and sickening comments.

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    HappisburghHarry

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • If you give to charity, less than half of the money will reach the intended cause, with over 60% in many cases, being squandered on those directors who don't need it. By giving mney straight to a beggar, it reaches hi m personally. If personal accounts are good enough for us to serve people with disabilities, why give to useless charities looking after themselves, when a direct gift enables a homeless person to help themselves.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Tuesday, October 8, 2013

  • I am inclined to agree with both sides here. I cannot forget those poor little lads we used to get in Yarmouth a decade or so back who had come down from the north as part of a drugs gang culture and spent months begging in The Rows and rough sleeping. Whose fault it was the by passer could not know, they could just see thin miserable cold little boys looking pretty sick. Of course the agencies and the charities look after who they can, and of course the scammers work the public and of course we don't want a wave of beggars who may then turn to crime, but sometimes even the hardest heart has to acknowledge how difficult it must be to get up from the bottom-the young with no help from parents , those who don't have the wherewithal to seek aid from the available agencies and even those in the grip of addiction. If we can really be assured that there is a local scheme in place to support the genuinely down and out rather than just moving them on then it would be easier to ignore those begging.

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    Daisy Roots

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • from the nasty comments, maybe you all should experience 7 nights out in the Winter time to see how it feels. You will not have access to bank accounts or borrow money from friends, you will have to survive on your own. Not everyone in this City has the luxury of a roof over their heads, family network, do you seriously think people enjoy sleeping rough and begging. Yes some exploit people and some do not put money to proper food or drink, a lot of that is down to addictions for which they require help and support, not for people to put them down even further. What WE all need to realise is our life can change in the blink of an eye and we could one day be just like these people.

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    che bramley

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • There is no doubt that begging is distasteful to most people. It is also very probable that the majority of the people doing it have drug or alcohol dependency issues. However, many people with drug or alcohol dependency have criminal records for amongst other things violence. Depriving someone who is begging for money for their next fix or drink is liable to have unintended consequences. It will be interesting to see the crime statistics in Norwich for burglaries and muggings a few months after this policy is in place!

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    Douglas McCoy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Some people may have a great deal of often misplaced sympathy with these people. But let it get out of control and it will only harm the reputation of the city. Visitors will then go home and tell their friends of what they have seen. Secondly no one is doing these people any favours by giving them money. It`s not going to be used to buy a good wholesome meal. Instead it is going to be spent on cheap drink and drugs.

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    BG

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • I think I agree with che bramley, though I`ll freely admit to not being sure of the boundary between his belief and his irony. That photograph was surely a shameless pose set up by the Chief of Hacks; everything is brand new. As ever it seems, I find I concur with the observations of Steely Dan. Ralph McTell`s "Streets of London" and Roy Orbison`s\Willie Nelson`s earlier "Pretty Paper" come to mind. There but for fortune... It could happen to anyone; smugness is no guarantee of immunity. The comfortably off, professional benefits exploiters are far more deserving of vilification. Perhaps the beggars still have too much pride to join that club? I speak only of genuine cases.

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    Mad Brewer

    Wednesday, October 9, 2013

  • Worse thing you can do is give to Charities, as only about 3% of the donated monies makes it way to the people that needed.

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    Smiffy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • If anyone is caught begging, they should be driven to the county boarder by the police and left there. At least it will be a long walk to get back to our fine city and after it has happen a few times, I am sure they with fancy a change of city. Perhaps we should do the same with Big Issue sellers as well.

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    Norfolk John

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • People do not have to be homeless, help is available, but some chose to live this life stile, if so deserve no help

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    Derek McDonald

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Some 15 years ago there was a Big Issue seller called M***** who sold outside the Royal Arcade with his beautifully-kept dog. He freely spoke of a history of mental illness and his squatting and he was a gentleman. I and many others would buy a Big Issue we probably didn't even want and he WOULD NOT take money. All sorts of folks would buy him a tea or bring something from home for his dog or whatever and when I came back from Spain I'd bung him a pouch of cheap Domingo or the like. Within a year the City was infested with Big Issue sellers and M***** was gone - to where I know not. I've never bought a Big Issue since and I never will again. With some honourable exceptions (Air Ambulance, RNLI, NNAB etc) trust a charity at your peril.

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    el dingo

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Let me lie to rest some on the ignorant comments regarding charities: They do not pay directors, instead they are governed by unpaid trustees. They have to pay tax. Their expenses payments are subject to the same rules as laid down and enforced by HMRC. Uniformed comments to the contrary are very damaging and spiteful. True if you want to see charity work closer to home then donate locally. There are a lot of paid people who are employed by charities who really care about what goes on around them and get out there and do invaluable work, often criticised by those who do not seek the facts before laying forth their opinions.

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    NigelS

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • ... or legalise it and tax their income. Last winter there was a young man under St Stephens roundabout in the subway. He was begging and looked cold. We wouldn't give him money, but my wife went and bought him a duvet to keep him warm. He was gratefull but next day duvet had gone and he was still begging.

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    Andy T

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Birmingham have just had a purge on, "street beggars," because of complaints. 65 per cent were found NOT to be homeless but were just begging for the money. Everyone who was found begging, tested positive for drugs. Monies given to these people is therefore helping to feed their drug habit. Act of charity are therefore significantly shortening these peoples lives.

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    BG

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Worse thing you can do is give to Charities, as only about 3% of the donated monies makes it way to the people that needed.

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    Smiffy

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Personally I think it's a good idea, I work on a street in Norwich where we have 3-4 regular beggars. Regularly I speak to them but at least 1-2 actually have housing and have blatantly told me how much they can earn in a day. I understand they may not get this everyday but this instance what he told me he had earntbegged was way more than what I earn in a 10 hour shift. And that's before the tax man robs me. Sorry this is just my view and I certainly know where my money will be going.

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    Trigger

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Big issue sellers- this idea was a great one, where people who were struggling and down & out are given a way of earning money and getting work experience ready to move on, get a flat, get a house then get off the streets so the next unlucky person could do the same, however i have seen the same sellers in the city centre (by top shop) for years now surely they have had their opportunity to move on?

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    outspoken

    Monday, October 7, 2013

  • Smiffy: Your comments are worrying. Would you like to quantify them?

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    NigelS

    Monday, October 7, 2013

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