The former leader of Norfolk County Council last night quit as chairman of the Conservative group at the end of a remarkable day of drama at County Hall.

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The letter

Dear Conservative Group member,

You will, no doubt, be aware of the outcome of the Standards Committee meeting held today. The hearing raised a number of very important issues which, I feel, I am honour bound to pursue against Norfolk County Council.

As a result, I think this will be incompatible with retaining my position as chairman of the Conservative Group, who decided to temporarily stand down as leader of Norfolk County Council until the standards committee hearing today.

Therefore, I am resigning as leader and chairman of the Conservative group. This action will necessitate an election of a new chairman of the Conservative Group.

I will ask Judy Leggett, as secretary and Andrew Wiltshire, as Conservative political assistant, to put in train the necessary mechanism to allow an election of a new chairman as soon as is practicable.

My first loyalty has always been to the Conservative Party and the last thing I would like to see is for me to become an issue in what will be a very hard fought election.

Derrick

Derrick Murphy announced he would not be seeking a return as leader within hours of being found to have breached the councillor code of conduct by asking a political assistant to lie on his behalf.

A new chairman of the Conservative group will now need to be elected – potentially triggering a leadership battle just a few months before May’s elections.

Meanwhile, the eight-hour public meeting of the council’s standards committee heard a series of revelations, including its chief executive David White telling how he secretly recorded a conversation with Mr Murphy.

Last night, Mr Murphy emailed fellow Conservative group members to say he was stepping down as chairman of the group because it would be “incompatible” with “a number of important issues” he needed to pursue against the council.

He said: “My first loyalty has always been to the Conservative Party and the last thing I would like to see is for me to become an issue in what will be a very hard-fought election.”

Earlier, Mr Murphy had been cleared, by a committee of fellow councillors, of six of seven claims he had breached the council’s code of conduct, but on one count he was found to have committed a breach.

That one count related to him bringing his office into disrepute because he had asked Kevin Vaughan, a political assistant to Mr Murphy’s Conservative group to claim it was so-called twin hatter councillors - county councillors who also serve on West Norfolk Council - not Mr Murphy, who asked him to send an email to the BBC.

The committee imposed three sanctions: A letter of censure will be sent by the committee to Mr Murphy; a report of the breach will be made to a meeting of the full council and Mr Murphy will be required to undergo training in ethics and standards.

Mr Murphy, who had pushed for the hearing to be held in public, previously said he was confident he would be exonerated once the facts were known.

But the biggest revelation at the hearing surrounded the secret recording made by council chief executive David White, as part of an investigation into that email.

The email was sent by Kevin Vaughan, the political assistant to the Conservative group at County Hall, to BBC Radio Norfolk, in April last year.

It was sent two days before Nick Daubney, leader of West Norfolk Council, was due to appear on Nick Conrad’s show to discuss the King’s Lynn incinerator, which has long been a source of tension between West Norfolk and Norfolk County Council.

It suggested it might “be pertinent information” for the broadcaster to know that the borough council leader was facing “a serious leadership challenge” and that his authority had failed to procure alternative technology to the plant.

When the email came to light it sparked an independent investigation at County Hall, which concluded in the summer that Mr Vaughan had acted on the wishes of leader Mr Murphy. Mr Vaughan later left the council, with a pay-off.

Following the independent report, seven people complained about Mr Murphy’s behaviour and the county council asked Jenni Richards, QC, an expert in local government, to investigate.

She concluded Mr Murphy should face the standards hearing, with her investigation finding he had asked Mr Vaughan to lie about who asked him to send the email and, in conversations with the council’s chief executive about the issue, Mr Murphy “gave answers that were misleading, evasive and lacked candour”.

That, she said, meant he did not treat Mr Vaughan with respect, amounting to a breach of the councillor code of conduct and bringing his office and the council into disrepute.

But the committee, having heard Mr Vaughan himself speak of his admiration for Mr Murphy and that he did not feel disrespected, concluded he had not been treated disrespectfully. A major revelation came when Mr White told the hearing that, on April 27, he had secretly recorded the conversation he had with Mr Murphy about the sending of that email.

Mr White had told the hearing he had recorded that conversation and had part of it transcribed because he had feared further down the line it could be his word against Mr Murphy’s.

Mr White said he had done so because: “In a nutshell, I felt he regularly tried not to respond to questions I asked and which I felt required answers. He was often very reluctant to give straight answers and was extremely evasive, being difficult to pin down.” Mr White, who recently said he was taken redundancy at the council because he did not have the skills to help make it more commercial as part of a strategic review, said taping his conversation with Mr Murphy had given him no pleasure, but that he thought it was important to have an accurate record, as Mr Murphy often spoke “in riddles”.

He said he realised that recording the conversation could have a “major impact on the perception of how the county council is run and its reputation”.

But he said: “While others might judge that not to be in my own personal interests, I felt the interests of the authority must come first.”

Mr Murphy’s solicitor Richard Cassell had accused Mr White of being a “wholly unreliable witness” and accused him of three breaches of the data protection act, questioning what sort of message it sent to other council workers that he was prepared to secretly record people.

Mr White said: “I did feel that the reputation of Norfolk County Council could be seen to be on the line and as head of the paid service, without fear or favour, or thinking about my own position, I had to take the action that I took.”

When told by Mr Murphy’s solicitor that Mr Murphy did not accept that the transcript produced was fair and accurate, Mr White said: “You have just made my case for me as to why I felt it necessary to take the action that I did.”

However, the committee disagreed with the investigator that Mr Murphy’s conversations with Mr White had constituted a breach of the code of conduct, saying the evidence on that was “incomplete and unclear”.

Following the hearing, Bill Borrett, acting leader of the county council, said Mr Murphy ought not to seek a return as leader. He said: “Derrick Murphy has done really great work for Norfolk County Council and the people of Norfolk over the time he was the leader of the Council.

“In the light of yesterday’s events I am sure that he will do the honourable thing and step down as the chairman of the Conservative group and resign from the cabinet.

“I believe that the best thing for the smooth running of the council at this financially challenging time would be for him to resign these posts and I would support him wholeheartedly.”

But within an hour of Mr Borrett making that statement, Mr Murphy had signalled his intention to stand aside as chairman of the Conservative group.

He sent an email to fellow Conservatives in which he said: “The hearing raised a number of very important issues which, I feel, I am honour bound to pursue against Norfolk County Council.

“As a result, I think this will be incompatible with retaining my position as chairman of the Conservative group, who decided to temporarily stand down as Leader of Norfolk County Council until the standards committee hearing.

“Therefore, I am resigning as leader and chairman of the Conservative group. This action will necessitate an election of a new chairman of the Conservative Group.”

When asked by the EDP if he would still be standing as a councillor in Forehoe in May’s elections, Mr Murphy, who currently represents Freebridge Lynn, said: “I am quite happy to be a back bencher. You cannot be a leader or chairman when you are planning to do what I am planning to do.”

When asked if that would involve legal action against the county council he said: “I have got to sit down with people whose knowledge of the law is immensely superior to mine. There were issues raised at that hearing which I felt were extremely serious.”

66 comments

  • I fully support T Doff's comments below. This has been a dreadful episode for democracy and honourable public service. No wonder we regard all politicians with such despicion. Sadly it taints the good and the whole barrel ends up contaminated.

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    JCW

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • "When the email came to light"...Cllr Nick Daubney on becoming aware that an email about him had been sent to the BBC, made a freedom of information request on 240412.....I would still like to know who leaked the email to him.

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    Rhombus

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • comments here, sincere or not, are now closed so it seems.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • Canary brain is a City gent involved in what the City does best. According to retired fraud officers, London is the Fraud capital of the world and no bank can extract themselves from that charge. Everything has its context, bird brain. We can see who the coward is here, why don't you comment under your real name, rather than swear from behind your supercilious moniker.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Wednesday, February 6, 2013

  • I do hope that at least one good quality paper - Guardian, Independent or Private Eye gets hold of this story and tries to sort it out! What a mess! What a load of double dealing and obfuscation! Trust the Tories - why is Norfolk a standing joke for backwardness and muddle.. look no further. At least Westminster politicians are good at being duplicitous.. this lot are just amateurs and embarass the whole county! Perhaps some of the voters may now look somewhere else for leadership!

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    orwell

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • I wonder if the Irony of C.Brian's comment is lost on him? If you don't seem to like Norfolk or it's people why bother with us or the edp then? Hypocricy is a vile thing

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    d, west lynn

    Wednesday, February 6, 2013

  • What is the point Mr. Murphy? This action against the county council will make no difference to yesterdays verdict. It will only cost the public (who you purport to consider) more of our hard-earned cash. You lied and were caught out. The public will never be able to trust a word you say again.

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    Sandy.L

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Bill Borrett is as bad as Murphy, he knew about the source of the email, but stayed quiet as a mouse for months. Bill Borrett could have sorted this out before £6k had been spent of tax-payers money. So he must have broke the code of conduct as he was involved. I wonder how much this latest investigation by Jenni Richards QC has now cost the Norfolk tax-payer. Storm in a teacup I wish. This was in my mind another predetermined meeting like they all are these days at County Hall. Why was Langwade a twin hatter on the Standard committee to judge. When Murphy knew that the twin hatters are mentioned in Jenni Richards report. Not only are NCC at war with West Norfolk Council, but now they are at war inside the walls of County Hall. The War Of The Tories will never end.

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    Jack

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • "My first loyalty has always been to the Conservative Party" This sums up beautifully the attitude of a great many local Tories and is exactly why there is so much bitterness currently in Norfolk. Surely the first loyalty of any councillor should be to the people heshe was elected to represent. Moving forward I am sure Cllr Borrett will be rubbing his hands at the thought of all that power that might be coming his way. I notice it didn't take him long last night to stick the boot into Cllr Murphy. Having sat through all of the enquiry yesterday I would suggest that Bill Borrett has questions to answer about his role in this affair especially after he was specifically named by Kevin Vaughn and Derrick Murphy as being the main protaganist in discussions between the three men about the now famous Radio Norfolk interview with Cllr Daubney. If NCC Tories have any sense they must try and make a 'clean break' and nominate a leader not directly involved in this.

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    BigX

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • The Question is what are all the little creeps going to do now, they will be buying the new leader gifts as they all want a job and a pay out. I think they should all be sacked and the cabinet should start a fresh. How about using some back benchers who have no corruption attached to them. NCC is officer run so the present cabinet is not needed anyway.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • The Question is what are all the little creeps going to do now, they will be buying the new leader gifts as they all want a job and a pay out. I think they should all be sacked and the cabinet should start a fresh. How about using some back benchers who have no corruption attached to them. NCC is officer run so the present cabinet is not needed anyway.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • T Doff- wellsaid. However there is no reason what so ever for those who have inspirations to serve as you suggest - elections are open to any candidate whatever persuasion.who wishes to stand Local politics should be about supporting and working for those members of the electorate first and foremost. Aligning oneself to a particular issue which is important to the electorate who vote for you should be the way even if it is against party policy, however egos get in the way

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    maryjane

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Please explain why Mr. Murphy. We'd all like to know why you think nothing will change. Some of you may be in for a shock come May if that's really the case.

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    Sandy.L

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • The report says "Ms Hannam stated that it was the Council's policy that all the media communications on the incinerator issue were to go through Cllr Bill Borrett.". It's pretty obvious they were all up to their necks in this.

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    User Removed

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Electra - Was that the unkempt Kemp sitting next to Murphy yesterday at the hearing and shown on the tv footage, or was that another bearded lawyer?

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    maryjane

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • “My first loyalty has always been to the Conservative Party". This neatly sums up what is so wrong and so rotten about politics at County and District levels in this country. No individual standing for election, by an electorate he or she seeks to represent and whose interests and future may lie in that politician's hands, can or should have a first loyalty to anyone other than the citizens of the County. That includes those who voted for him and those who did not. It is the inability of "the system" to allow talented and reasonably altruistic people from all walks of life and with many views to work together for the greater good that sees us repeatedly in the messes we allow this rotten system to create.

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    T Doff

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Can someone explain to me how Murphy can still remain as a member of the Cabinet? Surely his election onto it was as a result of being Leader?

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    Honest John

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • Just posted a comment three times, to be sure to be sure, I hope they understand Irish terms at the EDP.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • The Tories can be a minority party after May and lose their overall majority.Other parties or groupings can form the majority which at the very least means the Tories cannot govern on their own.The candidate who is best placed to defeat the Tory has a head start.For once an election is timely.

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    Peter Watson

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • In his statements to the committee yesterday Kevin Vaughan made it clear that it was not just Derrick Murphy but the current acting leader who was equally behind his sending of the email to the BBC. Et tu, Borrette?

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    Kenny Bunkport

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Nemisis: Not at all when he was at West Norfolk he was always known as the man with his resignation in his back pocket. He threatened to resign whenever he could not get his own way including the time when he was holding the Borough council to ransom during election time

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    maryjane

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • "The Foreign Office ordered the TCI to undergo reform work before elections returned, with Norfolk County Council picked to mentor political staff in finance, governance and economic development." http:www.edp24.co.uknewspoliticscaribbean_civil_servants_could_work_in_norfolk_to_deal_with_council_complaints_and_questions_1_1553652 . Jolly good show, what! Of all the councils, in all the cities, in all the world... (with apologies to Casablanca) which fathead at the FCO had the bright idea to choose Derrick Murphy to 'mentor' the Turks & Caicos Islands (TCI) on 'good governance'?. C'mon. Anybody know? Please don't tell me it was Eton and Oxbridge educated ex-Guards MP Henry Bellingham - who by a cruel twist of irony is now Murphy's most vocal opponent in the Commons on the controversial incinerator proposal? That would be too much to bear. Mr Bellingham was Under Secretary of State at the Foreign Office, and visited TCI twice... until he was "fired last week for under-performing" by PM David Cameron according to Hayden Boyce, Editor-in-Chief of the Turks & Caicos Sun on Friday September 14, 2012 (http:suntci.commark-simmonds-is-new-uk-mp-for-turks-and-caicos-islands-p200-106.htm). It gets worse... Mr Bellingham's replacement at the FCO, Mark Simmonds, is hardly squeaky clean... "In 2012 he (Mr Simmonds) apologised to the UK Parliament for failing to declare £50 000 pounds that had been paid to him by Circle Healthcare, when speaking in support of the Health and Social Care Bill in Parliament." (op cit). Apologised? 'Oh that's OK then... run along now and tell those foreigners how to behave honourably' (see below.)Pass me the hemlock. Following Mr Murphy's fall from grace after the standards committee hearing, someone now has the thankless task of giving the imperious ex-Leader 'training in standards and ethics' (as if he doesn't already know with crystal clarity what is and what is not 'ethical'). Who is equal to the challenge? It can only be someone with local, Norfolk, name recognition and (apparently) unimpeachable integrity. One individual stands head-and-shoulders above the others - a chap who is intimately familiar with the 'ethical dilemmas' of running a big organisation ... stellar alumnus of The Norwich School, Big Beast of the Tory party, de facto boss of Belize... step forward Michael Ashcroft (Lord) and éminence grise your moment to emerge from the shadows has arrived: Lord Ashcroft would be emboldened by his old school motto Praemia Virtutis Honores (Honours are the rewards of virtue)... after all, who knows that better than His Lordship does? As for Mr Murphy, he is plotting ... what exactly? “The hearing raised a number of very important issues which, I feel, I am honour bound to pursue against Norfolk County Council... You cannot be a leader or chairman when you are planning to do what I am planning to do.” (http:www.edp24.co.uknewspoliticsformer_norfolk_county_council_leader_quits_as_conservative_group_chairman_to_pursue_action_against_county_council_after_chief_executive_secretly_taped_him_1_1856808 Oh Dear. Dark imprecations indeed! Interestingly, the concept of 'doing the honourable thing' seems to have crept into the language... but not, alas, strongly enough to whisper to him to resign as he should, on a matter of honour, from the Tory party - it is only as the (putative) 'injured party' that Mr Murphy invokes 'honour', his own, which he doubtless feels has been traduced. There is nothing in Mr Murphy's biog. - so helpfully provided by the EDP (op cit) - to indicate that (unlike Mr Bellingham) he was ever in the Guards. But the motto of the Scots Guards could have been composed with him in mind... Nemo me impune lacessit No one attacks me with impunity, Wha daur meddle wi me? (Scots). CU Jimmy (Govan).

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    martin wallis

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • Maryjane He is a bad apple and he has taken several others with him with his bitterness and corruption, he has henchmen in several district councils because he picked on the weak. All the bad apples should leave or be thrown out and that includes all the twin hatters, they are hell bent on stirring up trouble for people like Mr Daubany who does try to do a good job and I shall vote for him next time regardless.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • You might well be wearing an all rubber outfit, I can't see you much Martin....;) No, Forehoe is not local to me and they are going through the collywobbles, having kittens as they say, others will be ready to stand up for all there. But I will stand as an Independent against an Incinerator fanatic. What about you Martin?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Tuesday, February 5, 2013

  • Thanks Cameronisaliar. More aiding and abetting then.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • I am still astounded by the speed with which Murphy’s e-mail was sent out, and fed to the media, following the Standards Committee decision on 1st February. Could there have been a deal beforehand? Murphy agrees with the Conservatives not to seek the leadership again, and retire to the wings, in return for being let off comparatively lightly by the Standards Committee. He can then pursue a damages claim against NCC and by so doing take revenge on White at the same time. It would explain why Jenni Richards’ views, and those of the Independent Person, were so readily discounted by the Standards Committee.

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    Nemesis

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • As candidate for leader might one propose that jolly effective fellow from Breckers. He has proved to be Mr teflon-coated in his time as leader of that council. Now what's his name? It can be worked-out from the clues in this artist's impression of the forthcoming secret interview process that will be used to select the new group supremo: WILLEM - what are your achievements since becoming leader at BC - NONE. OK, on how many occasions have you been admonished in the local press during that time - NONE. Job's in the bag on that basis. He's the new IDS - Willy H - Cameleon, wins the ballot because other more able candidates have made too many enemies among their peers.

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    Mr Cameron Isaliar

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Murphy should crawl back from whence he came. To pursue this any further will be at a cost to the Norfolk people he has claimed to serve. Actually though he only serves himself.

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    Johnboy

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Honest John - he can't as you say its part of the package, however there does not seem to be anyone who knows much about the rules and as with many cases when a dictator falls from power there is always a sense of loss of direction as they have been told what to say and do under pain of expulsion for so long.

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    maryjane

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • A change in leadership means nothing.

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    Dickens

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • What an absolute disgrace these people are and let’s hope the infighting has only just begun because the sooner these people destroy themselves the better, as they are never represented the good people of Norfolk , only themselves, business friends and acquaintances. The words “Public Servants” has become joke as these dictatorial charlatans have never done anything of the sort.

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    John L Norton

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • I agree as long as its not poison Cllr Ann Steward.

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    Sweet cheeks

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • A lot of comment from a lot of jealous cowards it seems. Sad to read such spineless bile. Speaks volumes about Norfolk though.

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    Canary Brain

    Tuesday, February 5, 2013

  • That would be Dr C J Kemp of that Ilk Mary Jane! Wonder how is trying to wriggle out of this one. And of course the other unlovely member of the Murphy clan, the wife, who interestingly chucked the Chairman of yesterday's hearing out of his seat in Clavering. He said he was retiring. Excuse me while I fall off my chair laughing.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • all well: will you be standing in Forehoe? (dreadful white jacket, BTW)

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    martin wallis

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • Murphy dumped the voters of Forehoe lets hope the voters of Freebridge dump him. How can anyone in their right mind vote for a man who states he will always act in the best interest of his party (Conservation). Come Tories kick him out

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    JULIAN CRUTCH

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • nope - just tried to post my original comment again and still no show: must be a bit of 'verifying' going orn... Ingo you old rogue, wie geht's?

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    martin wallis

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • Not sure what all the fuss is about - All politicians lie, I thought it was in the job description ?

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    Farquarson-Smythe

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • I've read all the comments, and I don't think one of them had a good word to say about Murphy or the Tories at NCC. I wonder why not? My own comment, however, has not been posted... too many long words again, Mr Powles?

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    martin wallis

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • If he is to stand at the next election WHY is he NOT standing in his present ward, (I think that we all know the answer to that)

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    leslie cater

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • @Ingo - nope, or I wouldn't have been allowed on! Alternatively get in there early before the bu66er gets to work :-)

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    Mr Cameron Isaliar

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Legal action eh, KERRRCHING. Always some get out for these people no matter how disgracefully they have behaved. If he is successful in a civil case against NCC or any of its officers in their capacity a employees of the council, who will foot the bill, ah yes, you taxpayers again. That's on top of the prospective bill for the astounding break clause penalty in the CW contract, which he had no small part in either.

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    Mr Cameron Isaliar

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Mr Murphy has to undergo ethics training, presumably because he doesn't realise that ethics are not somethng to be switched on or off at will, but he seems to hint that he objected to being recorded on ethics grounds... You couldn't make it up!

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    MJB

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Twin hatters were mentioned many times yesterday, but never by name. In future twin hatters should not be allowed to exist, cllrs. should work for the whole of the community and have a private life as well. Stressed and overworked councillors hooked on power are exactly what we have got now and it has led to this party political bun fight.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • No Mary Jane, the bearded one next to Murphy was another hirsute solicitor. His performance was underwhelming by all accounts. I dont think the Council or the Councillors were aware of just how many solicitors were in the audience. Their take on Murphy's defence has kept me in stitches for hours. Now he has cycled off into the sunset we all have to keep an eye on The Third Man. Mr Borrett, hoping that no-one would notice his part in this. Too late mate, we all know and if the Tory Party are stupid enough to vote for you now that Murphy has slunk off to lick his wounds we will be watching your every move (and of course digging out all your silly remarks from before - my favourite being that if the incinerator is not built in Kings Lynn it will be built elsewhere thereby terrifying every district in Norfolk. You are certainly a very clumsy loose cannon Mr Borrett and even if the EDP have kept you out of the limelight for now that wont last.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Good on you Mr White. You need to be recording more conversations. The police record interviews

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    Jacob Burns

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Mr Murphy has to undergo ethics training, presumably because he doesn't realise that ethics are not somethng to be switched on or off at will, but he seems to hint that he objected to being recorded on ethics grounds... You couldn't make it up!

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    MJB

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • ingo w posted: stressed and overworked councillors hooked on power are exactly what we have got now. Miss out the first 3 words and you have it spot on. I have seen many a twin-hatter in action and they just love it, because they are raking it in for doing not that much really. Best way to remove the problem of twin-hatters is a unitary authority.

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    Police Commissioner ???

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Having witnessed all of the testosterone at County Hall yesterday I think it would make a refreshing change to have a woman as leader. Discuss?

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    BigX

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Without appearing to be perverse and reading Borrett's statement above perhaps we should look at Murphy's so called achievements. His loyalty to the Conservative Party? By his actions over the past year that statement comes into question - he set out some year.s ago to destroy the party in West Norfolk In the localpress he tried to blackmail MPs by suggesting that he would remove certain grants from their constituencies if they did not support him:.he undermined the democratic process by not allowing the incinerator issue to go to full council and he syste maticallyset out to destroy the credibility of his opponents by using his little creeps to make false statements against them. So there you have it - a fine example of modern toryism, supported in part by the so-called worthies who are propping up their own egos. There are still good tories around who now feel disenfranchished by all this but the answer does not lie in walking away or perhaps that would be a good idea and let's have four years in the wilderness to clear the air, I don't know you tell me.

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    maryjane

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Totally agree. The tory party at County Hall would have to be bonkers to appoint Borrett. That, frankly, would be just like appointing Murphy all over again. He has been in Murphy's pocket for so long there is no way he can be a fresh start for the Tories. But who to choose? They are to a great extent a bunch of cowards who hung around mutely obedient refusing to stand up for the people of Norfolk. There are only two people who were overtly brave and one of them is not standing this time having got so fed up with the party they cannot go on. In any event, if the public are wise enough to see these creeps for who they are then it wont be a problem. It will only take 19 seats to change from Tory to anything else for them not to have an overall majority, athough if George Nobbs sitting right in front of his mate Murphy nodding away yesterday is anything to go by we will have to hope that the rest of the Labour Party are proper socialists and put him back in his box if he supports the Tories.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • That would be Dr C J Kemp of that Ilk Mary Jane! Wonder how is trying to wriggle out of this one. And of course the other unlovely member of the Murphy clan, the wife, who interestingly chucked the Chairman of yesterday's hearing out of his seat in Clavering. He said he was retiring. Excuse me while I fall off my chair laughing.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Julian I think that's the wrong way round -he dumped Freebridge some time ago and has now moved to Forehore perhaps yo should talk to the selection committee there who supported his nomination

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    maryjane

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Mr Murphy has to undergo ethics training, presumably because he doesn't realise that ethics are not somethng to be switched on or off at will, but he seems to hint that he objected to being recorded on ethics grounds... You couldn't make it up!

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    MJB

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • again, a small post is not appearing, has the EDP favourite posters?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Often wrong but Harry Humpreys may be the other twin hatter!

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    Alan Allan

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • Same old trouble, Martin, all well?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Monday, February 4, 2013

  • What a sorry state of affairs. But can I remind everyone that Murphy and his cohorts, one of which will no doubt become the next ghastly leader (don't worry, whoever you are, we are keeping a close eye on you) have never served this County properly. This should be a time for the public to vote this horrible bunch out and start afresh with people who regard the people of Norfolk as being the most important aspect of their responsibilities not their political party or their own pockets.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Norfolk CC and local Tories.......rotten from the core outward, I'm afraid.

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    Cuthbert J. Twillie

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Is Cllr Daubney happy with the result or is he still thinking about taking out a private action against Murphy? - as stated in the EDP on 19-07-12.

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    Rhombus

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • Ring any of our councils and you get the message ' this call maybe recorded for training and monitoring purposes', it was made from a private phone and is still available via a court order, from either the phone itself, or the company records, afaik. To hope for the Guardian to become a quality paper is akin to waiting for Godot, but I agree with a thorough Private -eye ribbing. well said T Doff.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Oh dear Kenny. None of us have spotted that. And now Borrett is waiting eagerly to step into Murphy's bicycling shoes. Was this planned? Are we going to like this weasel any more than the previous weasel? I think not.

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    Electra

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Don't think so Nemesis, but if he does want to bring a case against David White, this has nothing to do with Norfolk taxpayers, the chief executive did this in a private capacity, for his personal reasons, he clearly stated and is on record as saying so. He further stated that the phone used to record was an iphone owned by his PA, who then transcribed the conversation afterwards. Records are kept for some years, afaik, and can be asked for by the courts. There is also the possibility to retrieve the information from the PA's phone. But, is it really in the interest of the Tory party to have a cabinet member and standing councillor involved in ongoing legal disputes that paint them in a bad light?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Sunday, February 3, 2013

  • Cllr. Borett was mentioned yesterday as the fuse to this email bun fight in public, how can he possibly be a leader. Well said T.Doff and Electra. NCC is now stifled, how can DM, Borett and David White possibly run the day to day affairs?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • Kenny Bunkport, I think that everyone at the meeting was totally surprised to know that there was a third person involved in the conspiracy to damage Cllr Nick Daubney by sending an e-mail to the Nick Conrad programme. Both Kevin Vaughan and Cllr Derrick Murphy, in their evidence, clearly implicated Cllr Bill Borrett but no mention of this is made by the EDP. Is this the hand of the NCC Head of Communications, Joanna Hannam, at work? Is she trying to keep Cllr Borrett "clean" in his bid for the leadership of NCC?

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    Nemesis

    Saturday, February 2, 2013

  • You might well be wearing an all rubber outfit, I can't see you much Martin....;) No, Forehoe is not local to me and they are going through the collywobbles, having kittens as they say, others will be ready to stand up for all there. But I will stand as an Independent against an Incinerator fanatic. What about you Martin?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Tuesday, February 5, 2013

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