Cromer promenade cycling and skating signs to be reviewed by council following petition

Huw Parker and other campaigners with the petition over the percieved Huw Parker and other campaigners with the petition over the percieved "ban" on cycling, skating and using a scooter on Cromer promenade.

Sophie Wyllie sophie.wyllie@archant.co.uk
Friday, July 19, 2013
7:30 AM

A review into “misleading” signs which campaigners say put people off skating and cycling on a north Norfolk promenade will be launched following a petition.

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The document, with more than 340 signatures, was set up by Huw Parker, from Mount Street, Cromer, in February against a perceived ban on cycling, skating and using scooters on Cromer Promenade.

Mr Parker, along with children, teenagers and adults, gave the petition to Rhodri Oliver and Andreas Yiasimi, members of North Norfolk District Council (NNDC) at the Holt Road offices in Cromer on Wednesday.

Mr Oliver, deputy leader of the council, said: “There is no ban. Anyone can cycle, walk, or use a scooter on the promenade as long as it is responsible and not endangering anyone else.

“The district council does do a lot to support young people. It has given £10,000 to the Cromer Skate Park project through the Big Society Fund. As a young person myself, if anyone feels there is something we can do as a council to support young people we will do it.”

He added the council would look at the signs on the promenade over the next two weeks.

Mr Parker, 52, who works in the Jetty Café, Cromer, started the petition through the website www.change.org.

He added signs were put up in the winter “banning” cycling, skating and using scooters on the prom, based on a 15-year-old bylaw, and claimed the council told him three weeks ago the ban had been lifted.

The father-of-one told Mr Oliver and Mr Yiasimi: “The signs are misleading at best.” He added until the current signs were removed he believed a “ban” was in place.

Mr Oliver said the signs were not misleading and the council had tried to accommodate the campaigners.

A council spokesman said: “NNDC would like to point out that no such ban exists – all responsible cyclists, skateboarders and roller-skaters are welcome on Cromer promenade, and indeed on all other north Norfolk promenades.

“The council has been discussing the enjoyment of Cromer promenade by children and adults with bikes, skateboards and roller-skates etc with Mr Parker for a number of months.

“However, despite assurances that any ‘ban’ he might have perceived there to have been in the past did not exist, and that signs have now been changed to make this quite clear, Mr Parker unfortunately appears not to recognise the actions NNDC has taken and is still insistent on delivering the petition, as of course is his right.”

15 comments

  • Dragonfly says it all. Spot on. While we're about it, could the tourist office give away leaflets on how to walk on the pavement and not five abreast, suddenly stopping, blocking anybody else passing

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    weaversway

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • If there is no ban on cycling on the promenade, then why does it say no cycling on the RNLI beach information sign on the pier forecourt? Come on NNDC, can you make it any more confusing?!?

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    CoastalCrab

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • @ingo wagenknecht - I omitted to say that Southwold isn't a "retirement hotspot". In common with many places in North Norfolk, it is now a "second home" hotspot - most recently bought by bankers, city lawyers etc. Many of these properties are used for no more than a couple of weeks a year. Also owned by various entrepreneurs, much of the rest is rented holiday accomodation. Whilst the owners and users of such properties are no doubt wealthy, few are retired. They share a few things, though, including bad manners, no community feeling at all and the "it's my rights" entitlement to behave as they feel like and blow anybody else.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • There maybe some responsible cyclists - but a lot aren`t .As for roller-skates and skateboards - these are for youngsters who because of their age , tend to have no consideration for anyone unfortunate enough to get in their way . They should all be banned from the promenade 52 weeks of the year . It would also be a good idea to ban cars and vans as well .They`re a menace .

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    dragonfly

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • I welcome Mr. Parker's petition and would have signed as no.341. NNDC should do as they say, if their intentions is to open the promenades and remove the ban, then these signs are wholly irrelevant and pose an invitation to being defaced or used as advertising boards. This refusal will be seen as a child unfriendly measure, a reminder of how it once was, and NNDC's reputation of caring for the rich retired only, hovers over all of this like a bad smell.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • 'Promenade' definition-'To walk' Not 'Be in imminent danger of collision with norberts on various wheeled implements'.

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    backwoodsman

    Saturday, July 20, 2013

  • @ingo wagenknecht- As it happens, there are many cycle parking facilities in Southwold e.g. Behind Town Hall, by the Primary school and elsewhere. There is also a large, purpose built one in East Street, between the Nelson pub and Centre Cliff path. Painted on the pathway, directly in front of the cycle racks, is the legend "No Cycling" I.e. park your bike and walk. It has nothing to do with "rich retired" hereabouts. It is a matter of manners, decency and abiding by the rules.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • What a shame the North Norfolk News has accepted everything the council said without questioning it. This photo, taken only three months ago, proves that the council did indeed impose a ban. Read the text on the sign - not much room for misunderstanding there! The NNN would have seen the same photo on the first page of the online petition, had they but looked at it. Poor show, North Norfolk News.

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    Furry Canary

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • In Southwold, we had sensible restrictions on cycling on the promenade, the Centre Cliff clifftop path in front of the Reading Room, and in certain narrow alleyways etc. These were in place, and enforced, at least 55 years ago, and "No Cycling" signs were painted on the promenade and Centre Cliff. Though faded, they are still there, and apparently still in force. There were also signs on posts at each end of Centre Cliff and in other places. We now enter the season when these signs are flouted by the "visitors", who turn up in their "Chelsea tractors", laden with cycles. The cars are dumped wherever the owners fancy, and the cycles are ridden on every pavement, and promenade; everywhere, in fact, except the marked cycle paths. Although pavement cycling attracts a £30 fine, there is no attempt at enforcement by police or PCSOs. Likewise, the supine Town Council has failed, in conjunction with the equally useless, yet "eager to ban other activities" Waveney DC, to refresh the signs, or replace those lost or deteriorated. The result is anarchy, with cyclists riding furiously, unchallenged and with impunity, amid people walking on narrow paths and pavements. Any polite word to these people pointing out the "No Cycling" signs over which they have just pedalled often results in a tirade of abuse and profanity. So I hope Cromer stick to their guns and enforce the bans. I might add that I don't drive and rely on my cycle for transport, as well as cycling being a lifetime pleasurable activity.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • It is very confusing, as the RNLI information board in the pier forecourt clearly states no cycling on the promenade. Come on NNDC, sort it out!

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    CoastalCrab

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • No doubt there are also loads of cycle parking facilities for those who are banned from the promenade in Southwold, so cyclist's can leave their bikes safely when they visiting the retirement hotspot on the Suffolk coast. Or are there?

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • @ingo wagenknecht - I omitted to say that Southwold isn't a "retirement hotspot". In common with many places in North Norfolk, it is now a "second home" hotspot - most recently bought by bankers, city lawyers etc. Many of these properties are used for no more than a couple of weeks a year. Also owned by various entrepreneurs, much of the rest is rented holiday accomodation. Whilst the owners and users of such properties are no doubt wealthy, few are retired. They share a few things, though, including bad manners, no community feeling at all and the "it's my rights" entitlement to behave as they feel like and blow anybody else.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • @ingo wagenknecht - I omitted to say that Southwold isn't a "retirement hotspot". In common with many places in North Norfolk, it is now a "second home" hotspot - most recently bought by bankers, city lawyers etc. Many of these properties are used for no more than a couple of weeks a year. Also owned by various entrepreneurs, much of the rest is rented holiday accomodation. Whilst the owners and users of such properties are no doubt wealthy, few are retired. They share a few things, though, including bad manners, no community feeling at all and the "it's my rights" entitlement to behave as they feel like and blow anybody else.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

  • Thanks for your information, T.Doff, I shall make sure that me my sons and their children don't come to such an unruly place, after all there are plenty of other beaches and promenades were they can skate and cycle. I suppose once the policing between Norfolk and Suffolk is amalgamated, a unified pro tourism stance will prevail, you can't live of retired Majors and lush louts alone, or can you? In which case, why don't you pull a fence around Southwold and keep it for 'the locals'.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, July 20, 2013

  • @ingo wagenknecht - I omitted to say that Southwold isn't a "retirement hotspot". In common with many places in North Norfolk, it is now a "second home" hotspot - most recently bought by bankers, city lawyers etc. Many of these properties are used for no more than a couple of weeks a year. Also owned by various entrepreneurs, much of the rest is rented holiday accomodation. Whilst the owners and users of such properties are no doubt wealthy, few are retired. They share a few things, though, including bad manners, no community feeling at all and the "it's my rights" entitlement to behave as they feel like and blow anybody else.

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    T Doff

    Friday, July 19, 2013

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