New restaurant quarter on the menu at Norwich’s Castle Mall could create 120 jobs

Castle Mall redevelopment plans. Entrance from Timber Hill. Shows plans to convert area into a food court. 
Pic submitted Castle Mall redevelopment plans. Entrance from Timber Hill. Shows plans to convert area into a food court. Pic submitted

Tuesday, April 15, 2014
2:50 PM

More than 120 jobs could be created in Norwich as part of a multi-million pound project to transform part of the Castle Mall.

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Owners InfraRed have announced plans to attract six businesses into a new restaurant quarter surrounding the shopping centre’s Timberhill entrance.

But the move has sparked concerns about the future of the Timber Hill Health Centre, which faces having to find a new home after the shopping complex did not renew its lease.

Paul McCarthy, general manager of the Castle Mall, said the investment would make it more attractive to families.

It comes as InfraRed confirmed that it would spend a further £700,000 shoring up the mall’s multi-storey car park – with work set to begin later this month.

Medical centre fears

NHS bosses have expressed their fears about the future of a Norwich medical centre after its lease was not renewed.

Castle Mall owners InfraRed claim to be in discussions with the Timber Hill Health Centre to move it to a “larger and more central site” within the shopping complex.

But Katie Norton, director of commissioning for NHS England, said the decision to move to a new location had been rejected by the centre.

The practice is currently located in the proposed area for a new restaurant quarter on level 4 of the Castle Mall.

“We are very disappointed in the decision of the owners of The Mall not to renew the lease,” she said.

“We recognise the important services provided by Timber Hill Health Centre and we are committed to working with Timber Hill and the Clinical Commissioning Groups in Norfolk to identify options for the future.

“It is important to recognise that Timber Hill is a purpose-built medical centre and moving it will cause considerable disruption.

“At this time, the option of moving to an alternative location in the Mall has been rejected by Norwich Practices Limited on the basis of the significant additional cost associated with the option that has been put forward by the landlord.”

She added that she was disappointed that InfraRed had submitted a planning application for the area used by the health centre without consultation.

Chloe Smith, MP for Norwich North, said: “While I welcome investment to the city centre, I know that anyone coming from the north side of Norwich valued a conveniently placed walk in centre.

“We fought tooth and nail to stop the centre moving from Dussindale, and at that time arguments were put that the city centre was a better location.

“I am poised to work with the health authority to find a solution for my constituents.”

“These plans are a fantastic way to improve Castle Mall for the people and businesses of Norwich and demonstrate our commitment to the local community,” Mr McCarthy said.

“We’re proud that Castle Mall continues to be a major provider of employment to local people and we’re delighted that, when the new Restaurant Quarter opens, over 1,000 jobs will be supported by businesses here”.

Businesses in Timberhill welcomed the project yesterday for its potential to drive up footfall and boost city traders in the nearby area.

InfraRed said the restaurant quarter would support 50 jobs during construction and 120 full-time and part-time positions once complete – if backed by city council planners.

Car park revamp

A major refurbishment of the main car park at the Castle Mall shopping centre will begin at the end of this month.

Owners InfraRed are

investing £700,000 to upgrade the most frequently used levels of Car park 1, A-K, as part of an ongoing works improvement programme.

The work will begin on April 22 and is expected to continue until the end of September.

During the refurbishment a number of car parking spaces or levels will be out of use and the car valet will not be on offer while the work takes place.

Vicky Merrison, marketing manager at Castle Mall said, “This investment in Castle Mall’s car park will ensure it remains an effective facility for our customers for many years to come.

“As the essential work takes place there will inevitably be some disruption and we ask for our customers understanding in following the traffic

management systems that will be put in place for the period.”

Castle Mall’s website www.castlemallnorwich.co.uk will be updated weekly with the car park refurbishment plans to ensure customers are kept updated.

For more information, call Castle Mall on 01603 766430.

Stefan Gurney, executive director of Norwich Business Improvement District, said: “This project is reflecting what we are now seeing across the high street – and what we have been aiming for in Norwich.

“We saw a good while ago now how properties have been changing from a retail classification to a mixed use, which has brought more restaurants into the city.

“It reflects the leisure aspect of socialising in bars and restaurants alongside shopping, which is what people are looking for.

“This new project has the opportunity to connect with the Westlegate Tower – which is coming on line soon – John Lewis and the shops on Timberhill.

“And if it can help to draw different types of offerings to the city as well then that is a positive step as well.”

Norwich City Council backed a £1m investment project to revamp the Castle Mall entrance last month after previous designs were rejected.

Ivan Brown, right, of The Murderer’s pub, said: “There are two potential benefits. The area will no longer be deserted and it’s better to see jobs and businesses which is beneficial to Timberhill. The foot flow near Timberhill creates interest and an added variety to Norwich which I think is very important.

More people drawn to an area can only be a good thing. I also think that there are night time benefits as well. Not everybody that goes out in Norwich wants to go down Prince of Wales Road. It’s good to see something happening.”

Amy Goulding, of Ward and Wright shoe shop, said: “It’ll be fantastic for the local economy. It needs something to stop the part around it looking quite so desolate and I think it’s an ideal place for cafés and bars.”

Laura Daynes, of Waterlily Tanning & Beauty, added: “Anything that brings more jobs to the area can only be a good thing. More businesses means more jobs.”

Raymond Joscelyne, owner of Design House Norwich, said: “I think it will be a good thing as at the moment it’s very empty. It should draw people to the area and I believe that anything is better than an empty space. It’s a good place for restaurants and as such makes sense. We’ve not heard anything official but from what we’ve heard it’ll be great for the local economy.”

Dorothy Thompson of children’s clothes shop Cocolino, said: “I’m thrilled about it because its been very quiet since work began. I’ve been here almost two years now. In terms of the sort of restaurants I’d be glad if it’s not going to be fast food outlets.”

• What do you think about the redevelopment plans? Email business writer Ben Woods at ben.woods@archant.co.uk

66 comments

  • Winton Simpson- Just like others have said, With a degree of certainty this will work and the pedestrian flows to the Castle Mall will be helped by the nearing completion Upmarket Westlegate Development. Level 4 of CM started to become dead when the original owners sold CM to Mall Fund who took over and as I have said did nothing to maintain CM or attract quality tennants to the centre except mostly Chapelfield rejects. The Mall Fund (CM Second Owners) messed Castle Mall up well and truly and that is why InfraRed are having to go to these lengths in order to attract quality tennants back to the centre. The discount tat shops are spacefillers from what I understand with short term leases.

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    norwichlad23

    Tuesday, April 22, 2014

  • zg- Yes I had noticed the items you stated and It does look like a fantastic development. Having inspected the actual plans there will be a total of 7 Units for Resturant Use and not the six suggested in the press.

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    norwichlad23

    Tuesday, April 22, 2014

  • Winton Simpson- It would work better this time because the mall's new owners have a clear full proof plan and by the look of the plans it will take up most of level 4 meaning it is close to vue and will be noticed by people passing as well as this infrared have clear visision as to how to attract people whether thats giving new look enterance or new lifts and escalators I imagine they will do this in hope of drawing more people to the centre and to level 4, overalll though do you like the plans?

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    zg

    Sunday, April 20, 2014

  • The Only Problem with this plan is how to get the people to use the restaurants. Before the walk-in centre there was a superb barrestaurant, but guess what no-one used it and it closed, Norwich`s loss. There`s been a Hagan-das ice cream parlour and a burger king which always seemed to have staff doing nothing. so will the idea work? going by history NO. but a lot of building work, the right rent al costs, the right restaurants, and lots of promotion. It may work, but then again this is Norwich.

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    Winton Simpson

    Sunday, April 20, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I have to say the plan on the mustard clip looks great and its what I would like to visit: do you notice the fact that it looks like more than 6 restaurants and looks like the whole of level 4 is taken and also the vue sign looks new to im not sure if you noticed it or not but like I mentioned before it looks amazing.

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    zg

    Friday, April 18, 2014

  • zg- I did happen to see the video on mustard TV and the vision does look 21st Century! And just like you I hope the NHS dosen't ruin the plans either.

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    norwichlad23

    Friday, April 18, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I see where you're coming from. I do feel that radical refurbishment is needed across the whole centre to as you say enhance the place also im not sure if you're aware but on the Mustard TV website there is a report on there about it and it shows another image of the plans and I can honestly say that it will work as it just looks like a solid and concrete plan I just hope that the NHS's "fears" over the health centre dont stop this development from going ahead.

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    zg

    Friday, April 18, 2014

  • zg- I know saddening to see it in the condition it is in when it use to be (when it opened of course) a new heart for norwich. When I last visited Castle Mall 2 weeks ago it was in the same state and despite going in most thursday mornings and seeing some decorating work being carried out by a gentleman on the maintaince team, I do think it is too big for them to handle. A lot of the bulbs in the feature lighting are either nearing the end of their lives giving out a dirty yellow light or not working at all plus other items like brickwork floors glazing e.t.c all of this can contribute to a impresion of a tired and sometimes dated mall when in actual fact if it was in its prime condition I don't think it would be considered that if you look at pictures of it well before The Mall Fund took over you hopefully can see what I mean. The proposals at this quarter of the centre will enhance and give this area a like new feeling. Resident Smith- I disagree with you 100% The high street may decline dramatically but Castle Mall and Chapelfield will live on with more shops looking to locate inside one central quality location.

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    norwichlad23

    Friday, April 18, 2014

  • Resident Smith- I disagree with you. The reason for a visit to the city and castle mall is because there is still a spark there and unlike online you can have a look around and it gets you out but also you mentioned the types of shops around the reason for those is because many good businesses are suffering or closing because online is selling the same stuff but cheaper than the shop meaning they can't possibly compete. By the way the city isnt depressing it has a lot of potential.

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    zg

    Thursday, April 17, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I agree with your point about it being restored to its former glory because today for the first time in a long time I visited the city and whilst there I popped into the castle mall and I will be 100% honest I was absolutely stunned as to what state the place was in! I firstly went through the back of the inns and it just looked dirty to be fair and as I continued onto other levels it was just amazingly quiet and then I had to meet someone at vue which meant passing through level 4 and im amazed by how dead it actually is so these plans must go ahead. My question to you is: when you last visited the place what did you make of it?

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    zg

    Thursday, April 17, 2014

  • At the end of the day...the Norwich High Street and Castle Mall in particular just isn't worth the bother to visit.It's betting shops, phone shops, chain stores and charity shops. You know...just like EVERYWHERE else. When you have Amazon Prime and your monthly groceries delivered to your door by the supermarket (actually cheaper because you have zero impulse purchases) why would you bother? It's depressing.

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    Resident Smith

    Thursday, April 17, 2014

  • zg- Indeed that was what I was saying and I fully agree with your viewpoints as well. It will be intresting as someone who is keen to see the mall as a whole restored to its former glory and but actually provide something new and exciting for Norwich.

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    norwichlad23

    Thursday, April 17, 2014

  • I am pleased to see the proposals for rejuvenating the Timber Hill entrance to Castle Mall. Having recently moved to Norwich, and living nearby, it is disappointing to see the empty shops at this entrance to the Mall and almost entirely throughout this level of its interior. Timber Hill itself is quaint with several high quality independent retailers located along it, and once the work at Westlegate Tower is complete, the street promises to provide an improved atmosphere and delightful thoroughfare from John Lewis to Red Lion Street. That is, as long as the premises in and adjacent to Castle Mall are occupied, successful and in keeping with the quality of the others in the area. It seems inappropriate to me to see the Restaurant Quarter occupied by the ubiquitous fast-food outlets that pervade every high street these days, so hope to see some careful consideration given to the choice of occupiers. I say, well done FW Properties for seeing the potential to make Westlegate Tower - one of the ugliest buildings in Norwich - into one of the most handsome, and well done InfraRed for its bold plans to rejuvenate this area of Castle Mall in such a positive way. Go Timber Hill! #gotimberhill

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    pyknicpie

    Thursday, April 17, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I hope you continue with your opinions its good to see the other side to the argument the way I would sum it up by saying this I fully agree with your points and I to feel this development as well as other developments are neede badly. I just hope that the council doesnt reject this scheme like they have the other ideas it just wouldn't be fair. Also I think the problems with the place under the mall fund was that they failed to inject any real life or investment to the centre and it just lost its appeal and freshness and with infrared they sound incredibly promising and exciting, was this what you were trying to say earlier?

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    zg

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • Ok so I have just spent a long time compiling my thoughts again, no doubt it will come out wrongly on the admins screen (If so please recompile it so it will look ok on your website) and it will be rejected.

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • the mall felt what it was doing was good, It was most certainly not. With all of this added up, its not hard to see why most of the main retailers would totally defect to the brand new Chapelfield, and you couldn't blame them either. The Castle Mall today is very far from what it was when it opened and I get the feeling that its been in this condition for so long that people have forgotten what it was like. The new owners have the money to restore Castle Mall and enhance it. If only they would fully do what is required and only then would we have something that caters for all types of shoppers and not just bargin hunters. Waitrose were looking to move into Boots location on level 1 in the past. (the ultimate seal of approval one might say) The proposals by the new owners for Level 4 are a step in the right direction and provided they are new to norwich resturants it will attract more of the type of customers Castle Mall needs to stay profitable. I wish them every luck with the improvements and look forward to enjoying them myself.

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • I have submitted my comments about the interior but the admin will probably not submit them and delete them. Took me 45min so admin if you read this please submit them as Im trying to wrap up my points here. Totally agree with you Mooseyt3

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • Now onto the interior, Inside they removed the feature water fountain from the spiral staircase and slapped some laminate flooring over its former location rather than using the correct cream Terrezo tiles. The dome at the Castle Meadow entrance was filled in and a kiosk erected at level 1 below the dome's former light well. This now made the interior of the back of the inns section leading to the primary section fully reliant on artifical light and create a more closed in enviroment. I doubt chapelfield would do such a thing. When the old barbican gallery was refurbished its floor was extended right across the middle of the top floor of the gallery cutting out natural light to Levels 1&2 and created an underpass if you like and the new atmosphere was far less welcoming than before for the middle section. Whats more the workmanship and the detailing of this new floor was poor and no attempt or thought was made as to what it would look like against the original interior elements and so it was left flat and hideous and an eyesore to anyone who would be in that section of the mall. A new unit for starbucks was created on level 1 next to the castle meadow end escalators, the existing concrete framed structure wouldn't be able to support the increased loads so a new steel frame was installed. It wasn't matched in and to get it in required messing about with other parts of that area. It enabled the an extension of the former courtlands the mall cafe. But the finishing works were just the same as what had been done to the foodcourt extension bland and hideous and another eyesore and 2 major turnoffs to any potential retailers look at Castle Mall as an option. Kiosks were erected right in the middle of the public areas on level 1 in the main section of the mall, very anoying for shoppers trying to negotiate the kiosks and the tat that is sadly sold at them. Going back to the refurbishment of the barbican gallery food court the new revamp used low quality materials and was very un inspiring and lacked some good elements of the old. lighting e.t.c) The toliets in Castle Mall were refurbished using poor quality materials that haven't lasted unlike chapelfields and the original toliets at CM(If i remember correctly, its been awhile for that) and they closed the ones on level 4 so you only use the ones on levels 2 and 3. On level 3 they created a second managment suite but robbed a former cafe that had a balcony that overlooked the section that connects the St Johns section to the main mall of its space and no new lettings have happed on this site since. Additionally all of the important decorative plants were removed from the interior. The terrezzo floors and skirting were not maintained as well as the painted surfaces of mall (InteriorExterior) creating the impresion of a tired mall to shoppers and a very bad impression to potential retailers. The car parks were not maintained. (Are now being thou with the new owners) TV's and electronic information boards were erected and have now been removed but the recked the surfaces they were attached to. Have I said enough lol... Now add all these up and you can certainly see why the main retaliers fully defected to the new well maintained Chapelfield.

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • I too would love to see the water features in the gardens cleaned, repaired and working again. They look dirty and off putting at the moment.

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    Mooseyt3

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • Ok so exterior wise (and im talking about anything that is exterior), they didn't keep clean or repairrestore these elements (glazing, masonary e.t.c) creating a downmarket impresion to an onlooker. To take a specfic example the Water Features outside the Gallery Roof had been allowed to deteroiate and now have been turned off and they are in need of some dire work. -Such a big turn off if you happen to see it.

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • zg-I have started doing what you suggested, admin must have placed a restriction. I write too much and then it looks out of place...

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • What did the previous and second owners do to the multi award winning 20th Century Architectural Masterpiece and I quote * “Castle Mall must be ranked as one of Norfolk’s greatest 20th century architectural triumphs.” So could write a journalist, Paul Dickson in March 2003. He continued: “Ten years on Castle Mall has won a string of architectural awards including Civic Trust and Craftsmanship Awards, the RPTI Silver Jubilee Cup for Planning Achievement, National Landscape Gold Award, Business Commitment to the Environment Premier Award and the British Council of Shopping Centres New Centre Award.”

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • norwichlad23- try it again break it down into different comments.

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    zg

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • Well I did post two comments one in answer to your question and one detailing a 17+ list of failures by the previous owners as to why the centre is in the condition it is in. And archant web moderator has rejected it. Very dissapointing as it took me quite a will to compose it.

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    norwichlad23

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • I have a question answer if you want to. Do you think that other uses will be made of the foodhall if this project takes off?

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    zg

    Wednesday, April 16, 2014

  • norwichlad23- firstly, thankyou it's good to have someone on my level of thought and also I think your right as infrared are making major changes to level 4, lifts, back of the inns etc. We do need to use it more or it may become in danger of losing investment and customer I just hope that doesnt happen as these plans sound great.

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    zg

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • zg- I do indeed agree, and you haven't dragged your arguments on at all. This after all what this area is for, debating. Those who are strongly negative towards this investment and Castle Mall I certainly can't agree with them. I feel I can say this with some certainty, that this scheme will succeed. And with the up-market (and it is) Westlegate Development it will prove beneficial to the area and in turn bring an increase in footfall to Castle Mall Timberhill Entrance area. People our drawn to attractive buildings and places and Castle Mall will fully support this idea once the work is completed. And a revamp of Level 4 isn't only what is going on there, having talked to them myself they have lots of ongoing projects at the moment and they have further plans for Castle Mall. 700,000 is being spent on a Major Refurbishment of Car Park 1 Levels A-K and all of the lifts and escalators will be fully replaced too. With all of this and more we are talking about a multi million pound investment which can only be good for the centre and us in turn should we use it.

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    norwichlad23

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • People may think im dragging on my arguments here but im going to put it out there on several points. Castle mall and chapelfield: castle mall is good but needs modernisation which chapelfield has built in. People it may attract: in all respects looking at the plans upmarket customers - NO! It doesn't suit the plans. Jobs and health centre: the new jobs are a good move and they are very welcome as for the health centre there are other areas in the castle mall for it to go or it can simply go elsewhere! Final point - some people are saying that there has been this sort of set up before and it failed I understand that but now the mall has new owners and a better vision and they sound more promising. I do apologise if this sounded like a rant it is not aimed at any of you personally but I do hope you see my point of views and then reconsider your argument.

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    zg

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • A very good idea. With Middletons, The Murderers and Wetherspooons all within spitting distance this could be a winner for The Mall. Just hope they fill the units with outlets that serve good quality food. The push for inner city living, developments like Westlegate Tower and the possibility of the two Aviva towers in St Stephens will place even more people into the city centre. can only help.

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    Tone the moan

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • I think it's a great idea.Diners can spend £28 on a meal that wouldn't fill up a small dog,then spend the change at one of the tat shops in the Mall.Everyones a winner.

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    Nexus_6

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • DAVE- I hardly think that going to castle mall is expensive as mentioned in one of your comments also you say we all moan what about you, you where moaning because people where giving there opinions I hardly call that moaning.

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    zg

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Sorry about the grammer errors in my last post^

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Dave- With regards to your question "what do you call upmarket" With regards potential retailers I am suggesting along the lines of River Island & Timberland. The types of retailers that you could find in the modern Chapelfield like centre. And upmarket in terms of fit-outs and centre conveniences, A fit-out quality that would last a long time with high quality materials. Using the toliets as an example at CM were refurbished under the mall fund and the quality of the materials used is poor and could do with refurb to a style present in Chapelfield. I am not trying to suggest that all every shop in Castle Mall should be like Chapelfield's retailers but where there are empty units retailers like the type in Chapelfield's could go in there. The current retail offering is unbalanced. and a mixture of Value (which is already present) and Designer brands would work wonders for catering for all.

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • paul denton what do you call upmarket ?

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    DAVE

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Norfolk john we all cant afford expensive places to shop like you mate.

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    DAVE

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • moan moan moan thtas all you lot do get a life

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    DAVE

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • It dosn't create any jobs,as other old restaurants close down

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    billythebookie

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I wish there was a delete button to! because now thinking about it maybe my comment was a bit hasty and looking at these plans I would happily go there. Hope you agree.

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    zg

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Archant where can these plans be viewed?

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • The above proposals will help Castle Mall become more of a threat to Chapelfield

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Good idea as long as they are upmarket chains!

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • I can agree with some of the views on here. However Castle Mall has got a lot of work to do to get it back to a decent condition that would attract new up market retail brands. This latest proposal will help, However the interior of the centre was well and truly messed up by the 2nd and former owners the "Mall Fund" and the lack of proper maintance cleaning the exterior elements and properly maintaining and repairing the interior elements as well have cost Castle Mall dearly. People don't just go to places to shop, they also want to go somewhere where it is nice to walk around. I think some people on here actually forget how smart it was when it first opened in 1993. I was one of the first 100 to go inside and the exterior and the interior where very smart. It has changed a great deal now to the point where it doesn;t resemble what I and others saw when it first opended and its lack of maintenance as Mooseyt3 has spoken of has damaged the Castle Mall leaving it a sorry destination now. Granted there wasn't a full compliment of the type of shops that would eventually open in Chapelfield. Its decline is totally down to the managment of Castle Mall for not properly maintaining it. I do not think it needs a full strip out and refit. What it needs is full cleaning exteriorinterior, getting Builders back to repairing the floors matching in the extension ends installation of some new interior lighting, and restoration of older feature lighting. Full Repaint, New up-market quality toliets. Have I said enough lol..... An EDP commentor shouldn't have to be doing the mall managments job! Only once the above has been done can it start to compete with Chapelfield, and their will need to be some physical changes but as long as they are done in a matching high quality style it would be fine. http:www.georgeplunkett.co.ukNorwichcastlemalldevelopment.htm Castle Mall Development in prime condition^

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    Paul Denton

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • My great nephew taught me this one ...*sets up popcorn stand*. Regards, Whiley.

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    Whiley Boy

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • Cannot agree with norwichlad at all, Chapelfield is far nicer and has far better shops and brands than Castle Mall ever had. Castle Mall has looked shoddy since before Chapelfield construction started, the gardens and water feature at the top, removing the fountain, lack of any renovation etc. These restaurants will just be chain ones to attract cinemagoers I think.

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    Mooseyt3

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • zg- Thanks for your insightful thoughts, and for helping me view the above subject in a different light. Perhaps I should have left out the comment about what types of people it would attract. if only the was a delete button hehe. Sadly a Class system still exists and people aren't treated as equals nor do they treat others as such.

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    norwichlad23

    Tuesday, April 15, 2014

  • norwichlad23- I appreciate your point and I may have been slightly misjudged on my comment what I was trying to say I was trying to say was that if your on a bus or somewhere near st stephens it is a lot easier to access chapelfield rather than castle mall and in terms of your comment about chapelfield I dont think they need refurbishment they are getting better and improving and the only reason castle mall is majorly popular is because of vue cinema in terms of your comment about what people it may attract I doubt it will attract upper class people it just doesnt suit with the proposals plus how many people do you think would go there, there a loads of restaurants to choose from.

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    zg

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Seriously take it from a young person, Castle Mall has a brighter future than typical Chapelfield which is in need of a refurb and the shops are nothing new. The main reason shops that were in Castle Mall defected to Chapelfield was as it was the new shopping centre people would be attracted to the new shopping centre than the older one. Castle Mall used to be held in the same acclaim as Chapelfield until that opened of course! Norwich City Council's fault for the decline in City Centre Retail.

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    norwichlad23

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • zg- Castle Mall is in slap bang in the centre of Norwich. Norfolk John- This scheme isn't designed to attract "Chavs" the so-called current average shopper at Castle Mall. It is designed to attract up-market people to the centre and as the centre gains more up-market retail and leisure units it will push make those "Chavs" feel less comfortable being there.

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    norwichlad23

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Opinions on this , mixed. When I have walked through that way and that entrance it seems a little dull and empty so yes it could be really good. However personally I think castle mall should focus more on reinvigorating the restaurants and space they already have. Plus I feel that without anything like Mcdonalds this may struggle and in my opinion most people will still go to chapelfield as it is situated in the main city is more modern and I feel has more to offer.

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    zg

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • But will the weekly benefit payments of the average Castle Mall Shopper be enough to keep these new restaurants profitable?

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    Norfolk John

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • This is encouraging and is probably related to the incredible success of the Westlegate development which has a frontage onto Timberhill. But what will happen to the fabulous but broken Gurney clock?

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    oldowl

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Brilliant idea , but let's hope they are not just the run of the mill nationwide chains - McDonald's etc etc

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    Norwich

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Looks a very good idea, hope it works out. Timber hill is a popular link to the city centre. The Mail could be on to a winner.

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    Tone the moan

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • great idea but I do wish they'd take the Medical Center out of there, it is an absolute nightmare to park if you need it on a Saturday or Sunday

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    catalonia13

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Chapelfield is boring and Castle Mall has overall a better design on paper. Its current condition is not as it was when it was new. However these plans are very promising so thumbs up for Castle Mall.

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    norwichlad23

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Looks a lot better than the effort Chapelfield has at its entrance. The plans look good to me.

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    fjq11

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • I imagine that will stay for the time being as they have invested in a refurbishment of it. http:www.pentaco.co.uknewsmake-over-castle-mall-food-court Not a full refurbishment I might add. I fully agree that that floor extension ruined the interior in the main section of the mall and the new starbucks unit and extended former cafe. The Mall Fund who owned Castle Mall then our responsible for its current condition and its decline.

    Castle Mall Main Gallery view 1 Year after completion in pristine condition

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    norwichlad23

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • A geat initiative ! but what happens to the existing Fod Hall ? which with the extra floor built ruined the Castle Mall interior !

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    Albert Cooper

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • The Timberhill was always intended as the main gateway to The Castle Mall upon its inception, but never took off much to the dismay of nearby businesses. You can't help feeling that this is merely tinkering and adding to the tedious chain culture of Norwich.

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    komakino

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Good news. It'll make a change from all the hair salons, nail bars, tattoo parlours, body alteration boutiques and view-into-the-womb closets that proliferate around this part of the Castle Mall.

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    JCW

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • You mean where there used to be restaurants until they did away with them all? This is a good idea though, that bit of mall is dead and has great potential four outside seating. Lets hope they're good restaurants and not selling microwaved 3663 or brake bros finest

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    Mooseyt3

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • According to Mr Millipede we are all reliant on food banks at the moment.

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    Steely Dan

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Excellent news lets hope they are not more chains serving pulp food and poor wine! Also Norwich needs a few decent bars. This would be a great location as there are decent pubs all around.

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    Jonny

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Food, Food, Glorious Food

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    che bramley

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • Absolutely First Class, Love the plans! this is what Castle Mall needs in this area. It will enable it also to compete with Chapelfield and Castle Mall is the better destination if it is restored. Chapelfield now feels rather boring and not as special as Castle Mall, The plans will take Castle Mall back to be upmarket!

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    norwichlad23

    Monday, April 14, 2014

  • There's no indication of when this will happen, or which restaurants will be there - La Tapas, Mexican Grill and The Real Orient sound like generic suggestions to me. What will happen to the Food Court inside the Mall?

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    richard1

    Monday, April 14, 2014

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