Turnout for the police and crime commissioner elections was expected to be as low as 10pc in some areas, it emerged today.

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Initial reports following the verification process in Norwich is that turnout was just 16.3pc of the electorate, while in Suffolk only one in six voters took part in the elections.

Other districts in Norfolk are still verifying their turnout.

The turnout figure in Suffolk has been confirmed as 16.01pc – 88,497 of the county’s 552,780 voters bothered to take part in the election.

The votes are now being counted, and results are now expected to be declared at lunchtime.

The Norfolk count was due to take place at 2pm this afternoon, but it has now been brought forward to 1pm.

We are asking readers if they voted, and if so why they decided to head to the polls.

We would also like to know why people decided not to cast their vote and the reason behind their decision.

In Wiltshire, the first force area to declare, the overall turnout was 15.8pc as Tory candidate Angus Macpherson, a magistrate, won after a second round of voting ahead of Labour’s Clare Moody.

But in parts of the county, the turnout was much lower. In Trowbridge, it was as low as 10.95pc according to unofficial counting, while in Devizes it was 10.41pc.

It is expected that the turnout for this election nationally will be below the all-time low turnout of 24pc recorded in the 1999 European Elections.

Yesterday, a spokesman for the Suffolk Police Area Returning Officer said: “It appears that voting by mid-afternoon across the county’s 606 polling stations has been running at below the normal rate for local elections but above what has been predicted nationally, but what impact the November night will have on turn-out is as yet impossible to guess.”

A spokeswoman for the Police Area Returning Officer for Norfolk said they would not be commenting on turnout until an official figure was available.

The results will be on this website as soon as they are available. The results and analysis will also be in tomorrow’s paper.

Tell us why you did or didn’t vote by posting a comment below, or emailing kim.briscoe@archant.co.uk

44 comments

  • It appears that the EDP has removed the discussion thread on yesterdays PCC voting story - is there any point commenting on this one before it's censored??

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    Fenscape

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I voted for these reasons. That policing takes a huge cut from taxation and at times it seems as if they are not accountable to anyone until they do something wrong-and not always then. Having a police authority comprised of those elected to other bodies should have worked better than it did. Having had this office of Police Commissioner forced on us it seemed like a good idea to try to find the least worst option. Given the paucity of information and the gradual public reveal of omissions this was pretty hard. But then this is always the case with the information before elections from parish councils upwards-the details given by candidates distort reality as much as photographs used by estate agents and it is about time cvs, warts and all had to be full and detailed so we know exactly what kind of a half wit or rampant reactionary we are being asked to vote for.

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    Daisy Roots

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I decided not ot vote simply because it was all too political for a subject which should in it's essence be for the protection of the public. The position itself seems like a novel idea, but when throwing politics into the mix it comes across as a measure to gain opinion on people political aligance. It was also rather foggy and cold by the time I was able to make time to potentially vote. My mother voted during the day and stayed for a cup of tea and a biscuit and chatted with the invigilators, who were frank in their opinion that turnout was too low to make this anything big. I also refused to vote hoping that a low turnout will mean that it is scrapped in the furture and then money spent on this could be better used on keeping the police in their posts, rather than making them redundant. Regards, Whiley.

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    Whiley Boy

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Only a twelve per cent turn out in Yarmouth. Would have been much, much higher if it was about benefit payments.

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    BG

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I didn't feel that any of the candidates were worthy of the position and none had a clear and realistic plan, therefore no vote from me.

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    kiwidog

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • For the first time in some decades, I didn't exercise my franchise. Not because I don't see the point of PCCs, but because each of the five candidates trotted out essentially identikit empty platitudes: front line services, blah blah local communities, blah blah cutting bureaucracy, blah blah interests of the victim, blah blah improvements and cost efficiencies, blah blah reducing fear of crime, blah blah accountability, blah blah anti-social behaviour - and on and on. All meaningless. As such there was no differentiation, and therefore no basis for choosing any single candidate.

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    airborneyellow

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • and if that comment appears then it is safe to assume that the EDP's man has already won

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I always exercise my right to vote in elections - my reasoning being that I then have a right to comment on the result. However, this time I decided not to vote, as a protest at most of the candidates associating themselves with a political party. What have politics to do with this election? Surely to do this job we need strong individuals who do not bear allegiance to other masters?

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    locallad

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Neil - Did you think the now defunct NPA cost nothing. The expenses of its 17 members was £222K a year. Its CEO was on a annual remuneration package of over £140K. then of course there was a deputy plus all the rest of the full time staff. PCCs are going to be much cheaper than the giant it is replacing.

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    BG

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • ..... zero experience of civvy street .....well that should make him pretty non-political then? remember the army saying.....Left Right Left Right Left Right Left.....perfect for the job. And Norfolk Policemen will have the shiniest boots in the country.

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    Fly Tipper

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I did not vote because 1 I don't no what authority or responsibilities the Commisioner will have, 2 I don't understand the voting system & 3 I don't know who was standing. Information has been very hard to find.

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    christren

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • When this was first announced I thought it was quite a good idea, but then the political parties got involved and I became less interested. Why these parties thought they should do this I shall never know, control freaks should not be running anything more complicated than a bath. So what we end up with, without a choice is a police state, without a choice because the political parties will win hands down. So much for domocracy.

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    parkeg1

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Having registered for a brochure as the only way to establish just who the candidates were, when it arrived I found it to contain more meaningless spin than the Large Hadron Collider - empty waffle and posturing from all the candidates, with the first prize for arrogance going to the man who couldn't even be bothered to tell us anything whatsoever about himself - '"learn more from my website". Very helpful to those without internet access, but perhaps they don't matter: so long as the party faithful turn out ... I despair.

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    robbiemurray

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • hold the front page! with a socking 4.05% of the erectorate behind him (27% of a 15% turnout) in the first round, and a margin of a paltry 3378 in the second preference round... Mr Betts has a mandate? hello hello hello

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • locallad: what we certainly do NOT need is a PCC who has not been frank about his 'interests', a former public school boy whose only experience of adult life is in the army - zero experience of civvy street

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I voted to stop Stephen Bett getting back in.

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    Fly Tipper

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I voted because the last thing I wanted was Mr Bett winning. The NPA was a complete failure. It has failed to reign in several of our more recent Chief Constables. A shed load of money was spent on reorganizations all of which have been unpicked. Without any public consultation they rubber stamped the introduction of the current all black uniform which has made our police look like some para military outfit. Despite the cuts the number of police officers and support staff in Norfolk are still at historic highs but you can drive the length and breath of the county and not see a police officer. After today we will be able to hold someone to account for things like this and vote them out. Something no one could do with Mr Bett and the other 16 members of the NPA, an organization which many people never knew existed until the PCC election.

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    BG

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • It was such a pity Mervyn Lambert pulled out. As regarding voting, well I went to the polling station got my ballot paper looked at the candidates and done the only thing sensible, put a damned great line through the lot of them and wrote "None of These.

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    John L Norton

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Didn`t like the look of any of these politicos. 1 Tory. 2 ex-Tories. 1 Libdem Village postmaster and a time-served Labour apparatchik. I voted all 5 of them as my second choice....... We should look at the Chinese political model for inspiration. But what`s Politics got to do with policing?

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I did not vote, knew nothing about the people we were meant to be voting for, did not know why it was political. The police cannot do anything to the criminals nowadays anyway so don't think it matters who the commioners are. Wish now I had done what many of you have mentioned and gone to vote and then spoilt my ballet paper. The whole thing seemed a waste of time and money to me.

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    Lynda

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • popeye: "........well that should make him pretty non-political then?". hef yew been on that industrial strength spinach again? get a gwip, man: Athill is the TORY party candidate: and that makes him NON-political?

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Simply not voting doesn't really get the message across. I went to the polling station and spoilt my ballot paper, with a message that said I think the whole thing is an expensive farce and I want nothing to do with it. I;d feel the same if we'd been offered an elected mayor. The Guardian website is saying that so far there has been a significant proportion of spoilt or invalid ballot papers, so hopefully that means more people bothering to go out and register a protest.

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    chrismoore

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I did vote, but with severe misgivings. Felt very uncomfortable with the political party domination of candidates and unsure if having a party political overlord will help the police do their job. Does voting give legitimacy to this flawed process? Probably!

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    petential@aol.com

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • For evil to triumph all that it takes is for good men to do nothing. So I voted. I had to do my part to try and get a very unsavoury character not voted in. But I did not like giving approval to this ridiculous charade of the Government adding yet another layer to political control to our lives. The democratic vote should have been "Do we want some unqualified and unwanted bozo bossing our police force around?" Would have happily voted in that. Still, we have to have what our political masters foist on us so I voted defensively. I shall be paying back the government in the elections in May for this and hope others do the same.

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    alecto

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I did vote (postal vote), but went for the one not attached to a political party, Can't even remember his name! I don't think Politics should be related to local policing. I do not agree with this as the money needed to fund this could go towards other, more deserving cause, like more police officers on the streep. Will the PCC earn £60-£74k with a team of people, offices etc. Say this costs £150k a year for Norfolk. That could go towards the salaries of frontline police officers, or equipment!

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    Neil

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Ethered. Voted for all five of these politicos as 2nd choice.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Thanks for your comment. There may be a delay before it appears, but there's no need to resubmit it. no the result's out, else you would not be posting this...

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I did go to the polling station and deliberately spoiled my paper, writing on it: "I strongly disagree with this politicisation of our police service". I can not see how a single elected commissioner is in any way an improvement upon the current Police Authorities which consist largely of elected councillors, plus appointed magistrates and other independents. I see it as no more than the creation of another job opportunity for a career politician. A creature that we already have more than enough of.

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    Stuart Burbridge

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I agree, too political! plus i was not sent any information, so i had no idea who i would be voting for, plus i wasn't sent a voting card as apparently i am not on the electoral role. Why didn't they set up the option for an online vote? Would that be so hard?

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    bubbly_mik

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I voted in the hope that Stephen Bett doesn't get back in, I hope it was worth the effort.

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    Fly Tipper

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I cast my vote to oppose the creeping privatisation of the police.However,the government has been inconsistent in providing referenda as to whether cities wanted elected mayors but not a referendum as to whether we wanted Police Commissioners.The pathetic turnout,even worse when the high number of spoilt ballots are counted,indicates had we been offered a referendum on Police Commissioners the outcome would have been a resounding "No".At least the low turnouts for such an important role undermine the government criticism of trade union ballots where action is determined on a low turnout(but usually higher than the PCC election turnout).

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    Peter Watson

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I intended to mark my paper "None of the above" but then felt that party politics should not be involved,and that the candidates should not belong to any political party I therefore voted for the only independant candidate.

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    Francis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I didn't vote. I hope that mass non-participation by voters will help to undermine the whole concept of elected police commissioners who represent political parties.

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    Trevor Ashwin

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I voted because I've always thought that it was my civic duty to do so. However I do think that this particular election was ill conceived and that communication to the electorate about the purpose of the election, the method of voting and counting, and the individual candidates was extremely poor, hence the very low turnout levels. How anyone in government could conceive that one individual could competently undertake the responsibilities of being the PCC for the whole of Norfolk completely baffles me and demonstrates a frightening level of stupidity right at the centre of government. In my view the whole process should be scrapped and replaced with something far more effective and democratic.

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    Sage

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I hate to be the one to break the news to the EDP but the way elections work is this. You have one day in which to go and put your cross on the paper at a polling station - That was Thursday. You can send in a postal vote but that was before Thursday. I know you love Jamie Athill to bits and pieces but still advertising him on the Saturday after polling closed at 10pm the previous Thursday is just the tiniest bit silly.

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    alecto

    Saturday, November 17, 2012

  • I exercised my democratic right NOT to vote for Political candidates in this farce.

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    Farquarson-Smythe

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Alecto, postal vote remindersforms are sent out automatically to all Conservative voters, others have to ask for it. This election only tempted approx. 10.000 to walk to their local polling station, at enormous expense, whilst 86.000 postal; votes decided the race, many of them sent off a long time before the actual date of the election. I'm glad the electoral commission is 'looking into it', not that they will do anything about it, cause they are dependent for their wages on politicians in power.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Saturday, November 17, 2012

  • The abolition of a 17 person police authority whose impartiality had never been questioned and it's replacement with a one person political position leaves the police force open to being run as a political animal, rather than to serve and protect the public. This was a poorly conceived idea and id ten percent is the turnout and the 'winning' candidate has 51% of the vote, then they are being elected with the blessing of about 5% of the electorate. Hardly a resounding success. If this is repeated nationally, the government should listen to the voters and the police authority should be brought back.

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    IT Man

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • My reason was not published for some reason! Maybe the truth hurts!

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    IT Man

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Francis - I'll bet you 50p that in the event that Bett wins, he'll rejoin the Tories within 6 months. It's all about the money, nothing else.

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    Fenscape

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • still, after an hour, no sign of my post explaining why I did not vote, but its on FB.

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    ingo wagenknecht

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • I chose not to vote because whilst I believe the strategy to have a commissioner is right, to make it a political party election is wrong. Chances are we will end up with a time served politician who has no real life experience looking for a comfortable living for a few years.

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    davidlinder

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Tried to tell you but Moderator said "No". Twice.

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    Mad Brewer

    Friday, November 16, 2012

  • Ingo: "still, after an hour, no sign of my post explaining why I did not vote, " same here. ho hum. at least I'm not alone... :-)

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    martin wallis

    Friday, November 16, 2012

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