As Bristol City plan to become the first club in the country to install rail seats, we want to know if you would like to see safe standing areas at Carrow Road.

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Rail seats, currently used in Germany, consist of a safety barrier and a seat on every row. The seats are locked into an upright position for domestic games and supporters stand between the barriers. For European games, the seats are simply unlocked.

The League One club hopes to install the new seating as part of the redevelopment of Ashton Gate and have installed a demonstration block.

The safe standing areas would only be used during rugby matches as regulations currently prohibit their use in football matches.

Terraces in the top two divisions were outlawed in 1994 after 96 Liverpool fans died in the Hillsborough disaster.

But many supporters are tired of the all-seater stadium rule, claiming that it ruins the match day experience.

The Barclay End Projekt was formed in March 2013 by a collective of supporters in the Barclay End at Carrow Road. The group is calling for the introduction of rail seats in the Barclay End lower tier to give supporters the choice to stand safely at matches.

David Wiltshire from the Barclay End Projekt said: “The primary benefit of safe standing is that it gives all supporters a choice between standing and sitting, without compromising on safety, and we have the support of stadium architects and safety officers to back this up.

“We already see thousands of supporters standing at every game in seated areas with the authorities powerless to prevent it. It would be far better for them to stand in a designated standing area which has been built specifically to meet the requirements of these fans.

“It would also enable fans who want to sit, or need to sit, to attend matches knowing they’ll be surrounded by like minded fans in a seated area who won’t stand in front of them. It isn’t a question of if we see safe standing areas in England, it’s simply a question of when.“

• What do you think? let us know by posting a comment below.

41 comments

  • Look East had a little try. Good on the BBC.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Or does Denzil produce noxious, post-Balti effluvia? ;-) The sooner standing areas are introduced the better. Then there will be no excuse for the obstruction, by the selfish, of other folks` lines of vision. Standing area - Stand. Seated area - Sit Down! Not everybody`s an oversized drain on natural resources, the `human` version of a gas-guzzler. Lower taxes for petite people. Punitive tariffs for the gross. You know it makes sense! Btw, it`s unlikely that a slight spectator who prefers to sit.. in his seat, is going to take to task a mouthy megalump in the Snakepit, or the Barclay in general. I`m so glad I sit in the Directors` Box adjacent to G. Steroo.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Ban a few! Ha lol! Doesnt quite work like that. Unless you want to ban the entire lower barclay.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • I'm Upper Barclay but for Cup games and stuff I'd love to stand in the lower - again! God the old River End:)

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Why is this question being asked? Are we expecting to be in League One soon? If so obviously Hughton is going to see out the end of his contract.

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Totally agree,people who stand at present are breaking the ground regulations, and should be banned if they stand. Do that to some of them, the others will soon decide to sit,or be banned losing season ticket.

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    norman feek

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Huge Hairy Canary you make a good point. I think demand would increase. Obviously without putting polls out there to people they'll never know but I suspect demand would increase. Many of my lot in the lower barclay are so passionate about standing they've threatened to not attend if they were forced to sit.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Oh I agree but im still in the way sitting down. Ive never had issue standing up. Infact all in my area of the Barclay are vastly against it. The two drunken ladies as I call 'um' behind me prefer to lean on me for corners and better vantage points ;) and there, well lets say heightly challenged. If the already over the top stewards policed the standing issue better I would of course comply. This is the case in cup matches when all the non regular fans show up and there is me and about 3 other mugs...i mean season ticket holders who attending cup games getting told to sit down. No issue, rules are rules and ill comply but doesn't mean I support it. Kills the Atmosphere in my opinion and all the good friendly natured banter that comes with it....blooming uncomfy sitting down for me as well. I have no knee caps left by final whistle. Certain areas marked clearly as safe standing areas (should the rules change) would be the way forward for me. Keeps everyone happy. Increased attendance, more room, more Atmosphere while also keeping those who wish (or need) to sit down happy.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • I used to stand in Southstand for many many seasons and loved it all!Ipswich attracted a gate of 36,000 once in the league cup.I didnt have much room to swing around but the atmosphere, was electric with tension and excitement.Jumping up and down, moving forward and feeling the excitement and singing with the crowd when Norwich scored is part of the excitement of football .Id glady see standing come back!Theres too many Health and Safety minded people that have destroyed our game and stopped people from standing.Ive backed the return.

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    paul553

    Friday, February 14, 2014

  • Agree with all the others who see this issue as just a side show. At this point in time,when it looks very likely that Championship football awaits, seating or standing is irrelevant. Watching rubbish is the same either way.

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    norman hall

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Most Premier league clubs allow standing now, you only have to look when shown on TV, standing at all the grounds, while the stewards sit there like Muppets just watching, knowing that nothing will be done to the big clubs to stop it. It is also annoying for people sitting to watch the game because they cannot stand through ill health

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    Derek McDonald

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Oh I agree but im still in the way sitting down. Ive never had issue standing up. Infact all in my area of the Barclay are vastly against it. The two tipsy ladies as I call 'um' behind me prefer to lean on me for corners for a better vantage point ;) and there, well lets say heightly challenged. If the already over the top men in orange coats asked me to sit down and those already infront of me were sitting down then I would of course comply. This is the case in cup matches when all the non regular fans show up and there is me and about 3 other mugs...i mean season ticket holders who attending cup games getting told to sit down. No issue, rules are rules and ill comply but doesn't mean I support it. Kills the Atmosphere in my opinion and all the good friendly natured banter that comes with it....blooming uncomfy sitting down for me as well. I have no knee caps left by final whistle. Certain areas marked clearly as safe standing areas (should the rules change) would be the way forward for me. Keeps everyone happy. Increased attendance, more room, more Atmosphere while also keeping those who wish (or need) to sit down happy.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • NB, it wouldn't be a proper Port-a-loo if you had to stand up, would it ? Know what I mean !!

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    Dubai Canary

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • I think questions are being asked here on a regular basis. There just don't seem to be many answers coming out at the moment.

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    Swiss Canary

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Its great way to expand capacity without having to go to the expense or hassle of extending or rebuilding stands. Not like it has to be for the whole stadium. Would just be Lower Barclay and away section

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    Colin Rowe

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • I sit in the Lower barclay Block A and totally resent having to stand now. I have a bad back and need to sit regularly, but for the past few games the totally useless stewards in that part of the ground now seem to accept they can copy most of the rest of the Barclay. There's just one little oasis in Block B now that sits, apart from when there's some action. Ridiculous. If you want to stand, go and watch Lowestoft or Wroxham.

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    Tom Jeffries

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • You could always go an sit somewhere else Tom? Sorry to say but the stewards have not tried to make 75% of the Barclay sit down and the atmosphere would die the day they do. Block B is a funny one as Im at the back of Block A and need to stand regardless of my stance because if not I cant see because of Block C. If I cant see I aint got a clue how Block B see's the game. Ask to move in movers and shakers chap as literally every other stand in the ground sits down for 99.9% of the game and your back will be fine there. Trust me I suffer from an extremely bad back so I feel your pain but I wouldnt change standing for the world. Add the fact that im 6ft3 and cant really fit in the seats comfy lol!

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • ha!!!! Well done Mad. Exactly how it should be. Im very much in favour of safe standing. Hopefully the club explore this to make it official. Hate being a rule breaker ;)

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • 110% yes to safe standing and I wish NCFC would back it. We in the Lower Barclay have stood safely with zero issues as far as I can see from Row V for many many many years. Only problem is, we are technically breaking the rules which is never nice and I forget exactly which report it was but us constantly standing wasnt helping our score. Literally 99.9% of the lower barclay would be in support of the club should they back it. I imagine other areas of the ground wouldn't be in favour (Family area or areas with more elderly supporters) but surely the club has to explore the potential for safe standing should the rules change. Lower Barclay & Snake pit are the obvious areas that jump out at me for this project. Hopefully many away fans area's around the country would take up safe standing also as I cant remember many away games where we've either chose to sit or not been forced to sit.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Worthy story Archant. Now how about really doing your job and asking some people some questions? If you just reported you asked and got a "no comment" it would show you had tried. Only a suggestion.

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    el dingo

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • 110% yes to safe standing and I wish NCFC would back it. We in the Lower Barclay have stood safely with zero issues as far as I can see from Row V for many many many years. Only problem is, we are technically breaking the rules which is never nice and I forget exactly which report it was but us constantly standing wasnt helping our score. Literally 99.9% of the lower barclay would be in support of the club should they back it. I imagine other areas of the ground wouldn't be in favour (Family area or areas with more elderly supporters) but surely the club has to explore the potential for safe standing should the rules change. Lower Barclay & Snake pit are the obvious areas that jump out at me for this project.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • No, I personally do not think bringing back safe-standing in stadiums is a good idea. People never learn from the past and I feel that allowing standing at football games again regardless of whether or not there's more police and the seats can be pushed back is detrimental. And how must the families of those Liverpool supports feel right now? They're finally making a breakthrough with what really happened at Hillsborough and now we're trying to bring back standing again. I love football but I don't need to stand. OTBC

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    Powers1902

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Let's get some wins first, then talk about this please

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    Mr. Livers

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • ha did have a chuckle reading that one! Very good! All very correct as well! I think the club knows full well how standing in the Barclay aids the team. As another poster pointed out there has been clear games (must win ones) where they have left us alone in Block A of the lower Barclay. usually they try and get the entire block sitting down even though D block & co have not been asked to sit in nearly 10 years. They fail usually by the time they get to me in row V. I could never go back to sitting regularly, an certainly could never sit anywhere else but the Lower Barclay. Only thing i'd consider is moving nearer my clan who mainly sit at the back of D Block in Lower Barclay but I get on with all the regs around me in A block and stood there for years + its a really good view.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Why are we being asked this? Is teh plan to be in League One soon?

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    waclor

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Barclay Cell Block H. The Cuckoo`s Nest. I`m going to become a ballet fan, because football is fast becoming pointe-less. Specially for NCFC. Tutu much to bear. A pain in the buttocks.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • I used to stand in Southstand for many many seasons and loved it all!Ipswich attracted a gate of 36,000 once in the league cup.I didnt have much room to swing around but the atmosphere, was electric with tension and excitement.Jumping up and down, moving forward and feeling the excitement and singing with the crowd when Norwich scored is part of the excitement of football .Id glady see standing come back!Theres too many Health and Safety minded people that have destroyed our game and stopped people from standing.Ive backed the return.

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    paul553

    Friday, February 14, 2014

  • Mattias - it`s just that, at 6` 3", you would tower over this short (and shrinking) old git. So when I`m trying to see a game and big units like you keep standing up in front of me, I can see ***k all. A bit like ladies at the opera wearing big hats (+ a side order of swearing). If the Elfin Safety lobby can be satisfied, and there is a demand for standing only areas, then go for it. Then standing in seated areas should be strictly forbidden. Not so much an issue of Jobsworthery, but one of good manners and consideration for others. Those attributes were once the Hallmark of the English gentleman but, alas, rare now. ( I`ll get genderist\ethnicist stuff now!).

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • We can have a look sooner than you would think when we play them very shortly. Who really cares, why are questions not being asked as to why the board are letting us slip into the championship on a whimper? Or have you failed to notice that!

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    Ian Farrow

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Apologies for the length of this post..... I sit in Block C of the Lower Barclay, Row J. The stewards make it about as far as us when asking people to sit down - before everyone is up again as we're attacking. I am up and down like a fiddlers elbow. Personally, I WANT to stand, and believe Safe Standing really is the way forward. Nobody gets particularly excited and feels like singing when sitting down do they? Where does most of the noise come from in the ground? The Barclay and Snake Pit. Theres not a lot of noise from the seats in the Jarrold. Next time the stewards ask the entire Barclay to sit, actually listen and notice the drop in noise level. Some games the stewards don't even ask people to sit, as an atmosphere is required. When Fulham came to CR we were constantly being told to sit down. Man City at home, not a steward in sight. The club knows what it is doing. If people do not wish to stand, move elsewhere, and fill the stand with the people who do. A friend is forced to sit in the Jarrold as that was the only ticket available. He'd much rather be stood in the Lower Barclay. Hillsborough will always be used as an argument against standing. Yes, it was an absolute disaster. To me, it appeared to be caused by overcrowding, and a crush against the fence. There are no fences these days, so if overcrowding occured it's now easy to get out - but given todays modern technology, all the turnstiles could be linked and only allowed to do a definitive number of turns - thus removing the potential for overcrowding.

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    Eddie

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • I don't mind, as long as the tall people stand at the back. I don't want to go back to looking at the backs of peoples knees. Alternatively, I've no objection as long as I can bring my stepladder.

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    Bill Punton's bald patch

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Ha, that did make me chuckle. Were all happy with it. Dont moan for the sake of moan. If someone is standing in your area then complain but Barclay has been fine for years. Sheesh, All us NCFC fans do is moan these days! Guessing the lack of yellow goal nets & goal music is also winding some up!

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Nobody wants to stand behind me, that's for sure

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    Denzil

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Oh yes! I'd love to go back to the 70's! (elbows in the face, kicked shins and not mention wet trouser legs)

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    Drmjp

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • First, ban standing in seated areas; zero tolerance. Then provide standing only ghettos for those that want to stand. If Hughton`s staying, also provide sleeping accommodation.

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    Mad Brewer

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • Having to watch your club facing relegation each week, I think that you are better off sitting down for it.

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    NB

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • 110% yes to safe standing and I wish NCFC would back it. We in the Lower Barclay have stood safely with zero issues as far as I can see from Row V for many many many years. Only problem is, we are technically breaking the rules which is never nice. Literally 99.9% of the lower barclay would be in support of the club should they back it. I imagine other areas of the ground wouldn't be in favour (Family area or areas with more elderly supporters) but surely the club has to explore the potential for safe standing should the rules change. Lower Barclay & SP are the obvious areas that jump out at me for this project. Hopefully many away fans area's would take up safe standing also as I cant remember many away games where we've either chose to sit or not been forced to sit.

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    Mattias333

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • I'm another fan of safe standing.Football is a game to watch standing up,if you are able(certainly not through glass as in the corporate sections).It may require a different policing approach,though,that could mean the return of the much-missed "snatch squad".

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    Peter Watson

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • Oh I agree MAD but im still in the way of people behind when sitting down. Ive never had issue standing up. Infact all in my area of the lower Barclay are vastly against it sitting down. The two tipsy ladies as I call 'um' behind me prefer to lean on me for corners for a better vantage point ;) They are not the tallest either. If the already over the top men in orange coats asked me to sit down and those already infront of me were sitting down then I would of course comply. No issue, rules are rules and ill comply but doesn't mean I support it. Destroys the Atmosphere in my opinion and all the good friendly natured banter that comes with it....blooming uncomfy sitting down for me as well. I have no knee caps left by final whistle. Certain areas marked clearly as safe standing areas (should the rules change) would be the way forward for me. Keeps everyone happy. Increased attendance, more room, more Atmosphere while also keeping those who wish (or need) to sit down happy. Agree totally with Eddie's comments as well.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

  • I want to see it, but unless it is done seriously, i.e. not just a token amount of standing but as a genuine attempt to boost ground capacity and make it easier and cheaper for the casual fan to buy a ticket, I'm afraid that it won't happen as the club would see it as something that would lose them money. You can't charge the same for standing as you would for a seat, therefore it will only happen if we can more or less guarantee a full stadium every week.

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    Huge Hairy Canary

    Wednesday, February 12, 2014

  • ha! Are you lower barclay denzil? There is a chap in my part of the lower barclay who is even taller than me 6ft5+ at minimum. Other week the stewards tried getting people to sit down and eventually got near us at the back and he refused to sit down. They haven't bothered us again. Would be different if everyone wanted to sit down but i've failed to find anyone in talking distance of me who wants to sit down.

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    Mattias333

    Thursday, February 13, 2014

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