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02/11/2009, 5:10 PM thelibrarian Joined on 27/08/2009 Posts 394 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? Sorry Wallis- you are correct of course, slip of the brain. Shows what an impression he makes doesn't it    Report

02/11/2009, 5:31 PM wallis Joined on 10/07/2008 Posts 5,240 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? MaCoat was that a pun?    Report

02/11/2009, 5:43 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel?  thelibrarian wrote: Sorry Wallis- you are correct of course, slip of the brain. Shows what an impression he makes doesn't it   Today we hear that another member has resigned. It is not normal for a Government to deny scientists, who are doing this in their spare time, to exclude public health and safety from their considerations. Fact is that the harrassment and upheaval caused by people getting busted at 5 am in the morning for growing four plants, ususally with a troop of 6-12 police fitted out in their best riot gear,creates more harm and stress than the drug could ever cause.   This was acknowledged by the UN in a major repoort this year and our scientists are only backing up what others have long said. Aland Johnston is cli9nging to a tissue of a spurious reasoning.   Today we heard of our other Tory party, those that claim to be libertarians, who want to cut the red tape heare there and everywhere, equally stupid they cannot graps that this dismissal undermines all other scientific advice they are seeking. If the ACMD has been bullied and talked down to by politicians eager to uphold this spendthrift and wastage of public funds, how much pressure is put on to other committees, what about the pharmaceutical industry, global warming research, food safety, the FSA has already got a reputation for being industry orientated and only concerned with applying the regulations in the slightest sense, now we have another body that is going to be stuffed with yes sayers and nodding donkeys.   David Cameron cannot imagine what an issue he is blowing out of the water by behaving as he is, he could have announced a major change in policy here and look good doing so.  If he thinks that he can carry on with prohibition, ruining young peoples life's, because they try drugs, turn them into crims with a bad employment record, he will find that many people will not trust him or his team, same as it ever was merchants.   And they say thery are concerned with public finances? what a bunch of jokers. nevermind    Report

02/11/2009, 5:44 PM mahatma kane jeeves Joined on 14/03/2007 Posts 1,618 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel?  wallis wrote: MaCoat was that a pun? I trust you are not referring to the combination of Nutt and psychiatry. Shame on you. If so i can only say : http://www.thecareerbreaksite.com/fun/funny-names-places/funny-names-and-occupations.php    Report

02/11/2009, 7:11 PM mahatma kane jeeves Joined on 14/03/2007 Posts 1,618 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? It is no surprise that MPs ignore scientific advise as most of them are scientifically ignorant. If you look at their former occupations less than 10% are likely to have a science degree. An astonishing number seem to have no previous occupation other than political adviser.Any prospective MP should be made to work emptying the bins for a year before taking up their position in Westminister. http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-01528.pdf    Report

02/11/2009, 7:21 PM wallis Joined on 10/07/2008 Posts 5,240 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? MaCoat dontberidiculous I was alluding to 'why post it?' but had lost the thread not for the first time...    Report

02/11/2009, 7:29 PM wallis Joined on 10/07/2008 Posts 5,240 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? nevermind I fear, mein Feund, that we may soon become all too accustomed to the unmistakeable sound of members withdrawing... ... as the Frainch and Chermans conjugate their joint position on the prospect of a Cameron-led UK presence in Eurp cue SHRIMPER blowing out of the water, however, is a diffrun' kettle of fish innit    Report

05/11/2009, 9:39 AM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 379 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? I think you all missed one very important point and that is ‘Professor Nutt’ should have never been a government advisor because of his financial interest in GlaxoSmithKline. This could lead to conflict of interests. Wouldn’t it be nice if this giant pharmaceuticalCompany was able to legally produce Cannabis and Ecstasy and various other drugs that Nutt had managed to get legalised. If anyone and already mentioned Nutts involvement with GSK I apologise.    Report

05/11/2009, 10:00 AM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel?  Storm wrote: I think you all missed one very important point and that is ‘Professor Nutt’ should have never been a government advisor because of his financial interest in GlaxoSmithKline. This could lead to conflict of interests. Wouldn’t it be nice if this giant pharmaceuticalCompany was able to legally produce Cannabis and Ecstasy and various other drugs that Nutt had managed to get legalised. If anyone and already mentioned Nutts involvement with GSK I apologise.   Three cheers to the blithering uneducated, Prof. Nutt is know world wide for his expertise, non partisanship and excellence in the field of drug and their effect on humans. FFS the Chief scientific advisor had to grudgingly support his view that cannabis and ectasy are less dangerous than alcohol and nicotine. If you do not believe them, ask the NHS how much damage these two legal drugs cause humans, not to mention the costs to societies coffers. Cannabis grows, it is a wild plant just as many others which cannot be patented, as much as the pharmaceutical industry might want to, but I would not be surprised if they are trying. The good thing about cannabis is that it is very hard to overdose and that it is easy to self medicate the right dose You do not have to apologise for not being informed on this issue storm, but should you like to know some more try visiting www.lca-uk.org  there's a wealth of scientific information available. nevermind    Report

05/11/2009, 7:45 PM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 379 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel?  nevermind wrote:    The good thing about cannabis is that it is very hard to overdose and that it is easy to self medicate the right dose   nevermind   I reckon this chap had just the right dose. http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=enonline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED04%20Nov%202009%2015%3A07%3A12%3A663    Report

05/11/2009, 7:58 PM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 379 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel? Knights admitted producing cannabis and was jailed for nine months, suspended for a year. He was also ordered to do 80 hours unpaid work and pay persecution costs of £700. Thats a new one, £700 is a lot to pay when you are being perscuted. Are you writing for the EEN nevermind.    Report

06/11/2009, 8:47 AM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: Who Breaks a Butterfly on a wheel?  Storm wrote: Knights admitted producing cannabis and was jailed for nine months, suspended for a year. He was also ordered to do 80 hours unpaid work and pay persecution costs of £700. Thats a new one, £700 is a lot to pay when you are being perscuted. Are you writing for the EEN nevermind. Good forbid, I would know. The chap was rather unexperienced in wiring up his loft, bad luck. Today a group of tyhe most emminent scinetists are asking the Government to acknowledge that they are free to speak their mind on the research they are being asked to undertake, in public.   Moralisers are hoping that their explanations to Alan Johnsons sacking of Prof. Nutt will really put the fear of god into the public and that they will realise that being a Government advisor can be more dangerous than cannabis and extacy. being a local councillor is a far safer and lucrative occupation, with double dipping becoming vogue in all political parties. nevermind    Report

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