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   18/07/2008, 5:57 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

At least you knew where you were with Mrs Thatcher,she's better than any of the sorry excuses that have followed her.

Daftest thing the tories ever did getting rid of her.I bet they wish they hadn't.


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   18/07/2008, 6:41 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
No, they might never have had Major who miraculously won the next election for them . . . silly old Tories. Even they knew the mad old bat was a liability.
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   18/07/2008, 8:57 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
 rose wrote:

Yes, she can certainly still provoke a remark or two!!! But i think any supporter of Margaret Thatcher obviously didn't suffer themselves, from her hateful policies and her "No such thing as society" approach. The greed and selfishness that is around now all stems from her time in power. Still we will get more of the same at the next election when the gullible public vote in Cameron. Also the reason some people in their thirtys are living at home is because the wages are too low for them to buy a house and  Maggie sold off the council houses and put the money into central government. Have you actually seen the price to rent a bedsit let alone a flat if you live in Norwich? On minimum wage it is virtually impossible to afford.

P.S. Message to Darcy, probably throwing myself to the wolves by this but ..............See you 6pm Trafalger Square!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trafalgar square? I'll be there! The woman banged on about the free market, then gave away council houses for buttons thus distorting the housing market. Sold the utilities under the banner of "people's capitalism", now the utilities are owned by Johnnie Foreigner. Her policies have led to the absurd situation of much of Britain's water supply now used as a cash cow to shore up the pension funds of some Commonwealth countries.

Let this stupid woman rot in hell.


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   18/07/2008, 9:04 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
 Baconsdozen wrote:

At least you knew where you were with Mrs Thatcher,she's better than any of the sorry excuses that have followed her.

Daftest thing the tories ever did getting rid of her.I bet they wish they hadn't.

Yes, I knew where I was with Thatcher. She was not a Tory. She and her cronies Keith Joseph, Tebbit etc, latched on to that once proud, honest party the same way Blair has used Labour. Major turned it around. The economy was recovering by '97. If Major's premiership had continued then we'll be in better shape today. Still, the GB Public thought they needed change for changes sake.


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   18/07/2008, 9:08 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

Absolutely, she was one of the last of the great Britons.


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   18/07/2008, 9:27 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

no - she snatched my milk.... allegedly...

 

 


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   18/07/2008, 9:55 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
She should, absolutely.
What 'leaders' have we had since, who could stand up for their convictions instead of lying to the populace in attempts to be popular.
Who else has made even an attempt to stand up to european interests and tried to get a better deal for us.
Every 'leader' since has decimated our armed forces.
She had the determination to take on the unions (power cuts, three day week, rubbish in the streets, unburied bodies....), whose policies at the time were the 'me, me, me' that someone quoted earlier. She did not create this attitude, it was already there.
She reformed the country's economy from nearly bankrupt (the sick man of europe, if I remember correctly) with huge interest rates, to one that was envied, and many of her reforms have been copied by other countries successfully.
Her policies opened up higher education to a much wider segment of the population.

She wasn't perfect (who is?), but she was better than any since.

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   18/07/2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
If my memory serves me right, Didn't she preside over a reduction in the rate of increase of defence spending after the Falklands war while enjoying the reputation of being "The Iron Lady"?
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   19/07/2008, 4:48 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
Mrs.Thatcher deserves the best,whether it be a state or private funeral.She dragged this country from its knees.She said what she was going to do and she did it.Men went to war,yes,but they were fully equiped for the job.She got the better of the powerful Unions and brought in competitive tendering which brought the spend,spend Councils to heel.Yes she gave the people he choice to buy their council homes,but I didn't hear anyone squeal when they re-sold them at a huge profit.If people think that privatising is any worse than Nationalising industry are in cloud cuckoo land.I remember when people had their businesses snatched from them for peanuts by the labour government.It will certainly take someone of her courage to turn this country round again after this spend,spend tax and borrow government are thrown out.I just hope that Brown,Blair & co.keep well away.John
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   19/07/2008, 6:41 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

My thoughts on selling off social housing, it just shouldn't have happened. She also put peole on"their knees"....3 million unemployed. Loss of British industry.abolishment of lower wage council. High redundancies (with capped payouts). High home repossessions. The list is endless. But i will say something that is wonderful about Thatcher, and that is how there is a clear love/hate thing about her. Her name always provoke passionate responses.

P.S Try and catch the repeat of 8 out of 10 cats channel four to hear the pannels view on a state funeral!!

Also in answer to the question earlier on in the thread who would i be voting for in the next election.........I really don't know but it certainly will not be an ex P.R man from Eton! 


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   19/07/2008, 7:47 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?
Perhaps Rose you have forgotten Labours pledge to the people.They were going to get rid of all the quango's and  put the railways back in the public domain.Where in fact they have almost doubled the amount of unelected quango's and the railways,water.gas,electricity pushed into the background.I also remember New Labour criticising the Conservatives when they thought that National Lottery money was going to be used for the N.H.S. What a joke,they are using the lottery as a second income to spend as they like.Does stadiums come to mind? As far as council housing is concerned,the reason a lot of them were sold off was because they had fallen into such a poor state of repair due to lack of maintainance and they were not a viable proposition to repair and modernise.I worked on the council for many years and watched as money was literally thrown down the drain.John
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   19/07/2008, 8:02 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

If you go back and look at the alternative candidates to Margaret Thatcher

Who would have chosen Edward Heath or Neil Kinnock

Now tell me that Neil Kinnock hasnt had his fill on the gravy train of Europe and his son as well.


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   19/07/2008, 8:45 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

I take on board all your comments as we are all entitled to our opinion, but i cannot agree with the state of council houses was justifiable for the sale. Everyone was entitled to buy and the majority were fine. It was brought in as a vote winner (which worked). If not why wasn't the revenue made put back into social housing and maintenance of the remaining unsold?

Also i think Mark and Carol Thatcher have done well out of their surname. Lets face it Jill, there are many politicians on the gravy train too, and that applies to every party and to be truthful i am no great supporter of any particular party now, but i just despised the Thatcher era.


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   19/07/2008, 9:01 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

Yes, and the sooner the better.

I don't think we need to wait for her to stop moving, do we?

 


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   19/07/2008, 9:10 AM
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Re: Should Lady Thatcher be given a state funeral?

The reason was Rose,a lot of the housing stock were only meant to be temporary i.e.prefabricated and concrete.The houses were crumbling exposing rusty reinforcements which woud have cost a fortune to put right.Obviously if you were going to sell off the unwanted stock then you also had to offer the better quality homes.Almost all of the houses wanted re roofing,central heating systems,re wiring etc.and take it from me,I saw central heating systems installed one day and gone the next.Probably in hindsight it would have been better to demolish the old stock and build new houses but then they would have had to have charged a reallistic rent and wouldn't that have caused a uproar amongst the deprived !! section of society.


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