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05/11/2009, 11:55 AM Ron Luton-Brown Joined on 15/11/2005 Reepham Norfolk Posts 91 Going Dark http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8342066.stm Personally i think its a good idea!    Report

05/11/2009, 12:04 PM thelibrarian Joined on 27/08/2009 Posts 392 Re: Going Dark So do I , but I also want to see all those car show rooms and offices beside the ring road obliged to turn their lights off too- surely they can have security alarms that don't need light?    Report

05/11/2009, 12:11 PM C C Joined on 21/08/2003 Posts 1,526 Re: Going Dark Excellent idea. Why limit this to quiet residential streets in low crime areas though? Perhaps yobish and criminal behaviour will be less likely in the real dark.      Report

05/11/2009, 12:21 PM Peter R.Farman Joined on 26/07/2006 Posts 1,064 Re: Going Dark Exactly CC, if plunged into darkness, how long do the powers that be think it will be before those so called quiet residential streets in low crime areas become anything but? The idea can be best described as ill thought out, if one wants to be diplomatic, plain stupid if diplomacy is not your thing.        Report

05/11/2009, 12:25 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: Going Dark great idea and I agree with Librarian, commercial lights should as well be switched off. Energy producers say that this is going to hurt their turbines as they have to run at certain speeds and can't be switched off, tec. etc. Hopefully, it will mean that large public building, like our greenfield hospital with failry flat stainless steel roofs, invest in solar capacities. Studies show that they could have saved 90k of their anual electricity bill, equally the modern Forum, apparently groundbreaking architecture, it as well could have been equipped with alternatives. I made these recommendations, as well as others, in the design stages and was laughed out of the door. nevermind    Report

05/11/2009, 12:43 PM thelibrarian Joined on 27/08/2009 Posts 392 Re: Going Dark I wonder just how much difference lights make to being mugged or burgled or raped? There seems to be plenty still going on in these days of lights everywhere.No point having a security light on your house if it is plain that no one is at home, all it does is make it easier to see to burgle. Street lights didn't help the lady in GY ( reported in yesterdays EDP) from being burgled while she slept but a good loud old dog might have done. Street lights make it easier to get about in the dark, and I admit make it easier to see unsavoury characters- but does it make it any easier to get out of the way of them?    Report

05/11/2009, 5:25 PM wallis Joined on 10/07/2008 Posts 5,237 Re: Going Dark thelibrarian I think this half-baked idea stands no chance of success unless ALL unsavoury characters are banned from streets after dark so who's going to DEFINE 'unsavoury characters' aha step forward Alan Johnson and... ... after yesterday's intemperate remarks about cuttin' and runnin' from Afghanistan and using the money thus saved to 'step up surveillance' of.... unsavoury characters here in Blighty... ...Kim Howell MP remember, if Charles Clarke had had his way, we'd now be living in a society with 90 detention without charge lights? we don't need to worry about energy bills and climate change any more... now that a Cherman consortium has finalised details with Maghrebian Heads of State to harvest the power of the sun and send it to us, in needy Eurp Bless leaving the Dark Coninent in the dark where unsavoury characters roam at will    Report

05/11/2009, 7:12 PM Lynda Joined on 22/03/2004 Norwich Posts 2,721 Re: Going Dark <BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/CS/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>nevermind wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><DIV>great idea and I agree with Librarian, commercial lights should as well be switched off. Energy producers say that this is going to hurt their turbines as they have to run at certain speeds and can't be switched off, tec. etc. </DIV> <DIV>Hopefully, it will mean that large public building, like our greenfield hospital with failry flat stainless steel roofs, invest in solar capacities. Studies show that they could have saved 90k of their anual electricity bill, equally the modern Forum, apparently groundbreaking architecture, it as well could have been equipped with alternatives. </DIV> <DIV>I made these recommendations, as well as others, in the design stages and was laughed out of the door. nevermind</DIV></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> On mentioning the Forum - I wish it was possible to rebuild this dinosaur of a building! It is so 20th century to rely on air-conditioning in a poorly insulated building. The Forum is cold in winter and sweltering in summer. The air conditioning carries illness - it seems a few days after each time I visit the Library I have a cold! I hardly go in there now as I prefer to avoid colds! If the Forum was designed in recent years it would fail the building regulations. Modern buildings are eco-friendly with loads of insulation and do not need air-conditioning. Lynda  Technology is great when it works.    Report

05/11/2009, 7:45 PM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: Going Dark If you want to cut down on UK energy consumption , just throttle the flow of population increase now hitting 400 000 every year, mostly from abroad and the birth of children from that influx, Or is that too simple? Racist ! Racist ! Oh put a sock in it will you .    Report

05/11/2009, 8:05 PM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 377 Re: Going Dark  ADRIAN-W wrote: If you want to cut down on UK energy consumption , just throttle the flow of population increase now hitting 400 000 every year, mostly from abroad and the birth of children from that influx, Or is that too simple? Racist ! Racist ! Oh put a sock in it will you . ADRIAN-W                   You are no-neck microcephalic knuckle-dragging sociopath, no I will have to take that back because that's me innit. Sorry.    Report

05/11/2009, 9:57 PM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: Going Dark "You are no-neck microcephalic knuckle-dragging sociopath", ------Hey! Dont forget the Neanderthal label, I'm not ashamed of my relatives !    Report

06/11/2009, 6:11 AM john Joined on 07/08/2007 Posts 1,887 Re: Going Dark Will they ban Diwalli and Christmas lights? John    Report

06/11/2009, 8:55 AM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 377 Re: Going Dark  ADRIAN-W wrote: "You are no-neck microcephalic knuckle-dragging sociopath", ------Hey! Dont forget the Neanderthal label, I'm not ashamed of my relatives !    Report

06/11/2009, 9:44 AM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: Going Dark Thats Uncle Jim ! , Where did you get that family photograph from ?    Report

06/11/2009, 12:48 PM SHRIMPER Joined on 28/07/2008 Posts 895 Re: Going Dark Nah! far too intelligent looking to be one of your lot DRAIN, or yours NORTON.    Report

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