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04/10/2009, 3:06 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 The crooks have started Finally, recently investigated and fined  Norwich firm Carter, have started with moving their boxes in place to restore and re design the War memorial. Going by their past practises we can expect the bill to rise. Just as past public contracts have been overvalued, for how long Carter dare not comments on, this one will guarantee that we keep them in good fettle through the recession. Their fine was too low and they should have done this job FOR FREE, to say sorry to Norwich and Norfolks taxpayers.   All firms who were investigated for defrauding taxpayers and private clients by overvalueing and conspiring to defraud are not barred from bidding for public contracts, they are essential to the fabric of the nation. Pirates? nevermind    Report

04/10/2009, 4:11 PM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 379 Re: The crooks have started £2.6 million to refurbish the memorial already seem an extraordinary amount for the job. This bid rigging has been going on for years. Actually proving it is difficult. But when you look at the extortionate prices that have been charged for various jobs over the years especially where local authorities are concerned, it is pretty obvious what is going on. The recent court cases in which firms like Carter’s were given what amounts to tiny fines is only the very tip of a very large iceberg, which will remain mostly submerged.    Report

04/10/2009, 7:24 PM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: The crooks have started Its probably all down to those guys with the funny hand shake    Report

04/10/2009, 7:32 PM Snybarb Joined on 31/03/2005 Posts 573 Re: The crooks have started Dyb, dyb, dyb !    Report

04/10/2009, 8:19 PM mahatma kane jeeves Joined on 14/03/2007 Posts 1,618 Re: The crooks have started  ADRIAN-W wrote: Its probably all down to those guys with the funny hand shake      Report

05/10/2009, 8:14 AM Peter R.Farman Joined on 26/07/2006 Posts 1,066 Re: The crooks have started OK, someone has to ask I guess. MKJ, could you please explain to someone as slow as myself, just what your photograph has to do with this thread?      Report

05/10/2009, 9:13 AM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: The crooks have started He's is desperately trying to get the focus of noLabours inability to deal with these crooks who have been doing this for ages, not just the period the investigation covered. This issue has no political tag on, I can assure you MKT, far from one political party having a monopoly on sleaze, this stealth steal from the taxpayers has been going on under the auspice of the three main parties, as the BBC always says so proudly when it comes to their 'exemplary' presentation of british politics. nevermind      Report

05/10/2009, 9:39 AM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: The crooks have started Didn't know Nick Griffin ever worked for R G Carter , well well well.    Report

05/10/2009, 11:39 AM mahatma kane jeeves Joined on 14/03/2007 Posts 1,618 Re: The crooks have started  Peter R.Farman wrote: OK, someone has to ask I guess. MKJ, could you please explain to someone as slow as myself, just what your photograph has to do with this thread?   We cannot see it as the photo has been carefully doctored , but they both have their trouser legs rolled up. Fact.    Report

05/10/2009, 11:48 AM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: The crooks have started  mahatma kane jeeves wrote:  Peter R.Farman wrote: OK, someone has to ask I guess. MKJ, could you please explain to someone as slow as myself, just what your photograph has to do with this thread?   We cannot see it as the photo has been carefully doctored , but they both have their trouser legs rolled up. Fact. Are you in fact insinuating that this national fraud has been perpetrated by freemasons MKT? or is it just Carter's funny handshakes you are bemoaning? nevermind    Report

05/10/2009, 11:57 AM mahatma kane jeeves Joined on 14/03/2007 Posts 1,618 Re: The crooks have started  "Are you in fact insinuating that this national fraud has been perpetrated by freemasons MKT? or is it just Carter's funny handshakes you are bemoaning?"    nevermind Certainly not , as my advisers Sue , Grabbit , and Runne will confirm for a large fee. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/masonic-rites-and-municipalwrongs-1587698.html Who today remembers John Poulson and T Dan Smith. ?    Report

05/10/2009, 12:18 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: The crooks have started I do remember and not much has changed since. The apparent openess is tinged with apprehensive obstructive rigmarole, these records should be available online. Just imagine what us two could find out at the Norfolk records office at Martineau lane for a days rummaging? Up for it? nevermind    Report

05/10/2009, 9:22 PM ADRIAN-W Joined on 15/08/2003 Posts 797 Re: The crooks have started Well there yer go , The funny hand shake boys run your lives at local level and the top of the pyramid the "Illuminate " ( or as Lyndon Larouche calls it The Anglo Dutch liberal establishment ) takes care of the over all international scene, The self aggrandizing little git T.B, is just an ant in the cosy elitist club.    Report

06/10/2009, 10:14 AM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 3,173 Re: The crooks have started Sorry, they haven't actually started, as they had to wait for the City council to grant planning permission to close the road for their crane to come in and lift the heavy goods out of the yard. A hundred years ago they did not have the Simon Snorkels of today and I wonder whether Carter is already making a meal of it. I will be watching this work closely and wonder whether a 'works monitor, counting people and woirk activities, would lighten up our life's on here. Looking at their past fraudulent history, the City council should be aware of crooks in the inner City and train their many CCTV camera's on them at all times, especially those who have defrauded taxpayers by the million. HAWKS MEMORIAL WATCH has been born, membership is free and so are what you report and when. Work is supposedly starting on Thirsday now, but we will see.   Another option would be to start it ourselves, show them that the large stone bowls on site do not need a massive 60 ton crane and can be moved with a 2 ton pallet truck and lifted by a simple hydraulic ramp on to the back of a truck. what do you say? nevermind    Report

06/10/2009, 10:57 AM Storm Joined on 27/07/2009 Posts 379 Re: The crooks have started No bid riggers on site today. [10.54 - 6 oct 2009]    http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/webcams/norwich_market_webcam.shtml    Report

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