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 27/07/2009, 8:51 PM
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Storm
 
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North East Norfolk Under Attack
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27/07/2009, 9:30 PM
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chrisb
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Interestingly the EDP article on the Convention/Tourist Centre tells us that the details are on the web but are hard to find - but doesn't actually help by giving the URL.
Broadland Council seem to have been inspired by Douglas Adams in their idea about how a public consultation works. Their website has nothing about the proposals and the section on their policy regarding consultations appears to say that they will only consult groups they consider to have an interest. Ordinary Joes can just forget any idea about their views being sought - let alone listened to.
On the face of it this development right next door to the Eco Town removes at a stroke all the claimed benefits from that project - i.e. a sustainable community development including housing, commerce, industry and community facilities. Sticj a huge hotel development served by a new dual carriageway next door and the object is defeated. By the way - where is that new dual carriageway going to lead to? If they want to attract exhibitions, conferences and their punters in preference to Birmingham or London then a link to the Norwich Peripherique won't do the trick!
And they're not just going to have a light-railway link to Norwich - this is going to be an "ultra" light-railway! Presumably like the ones that used to chug round in circles at many seaside resorts.
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28/07/2009, 3:02 AM
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ROBERT
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As for any large proposed amount of new jobs, probably a load of rubbish, just like the proposed amount of jobs for Great Yarmouths out harbour that never seem to happen. Quite the reverse aa dockers jobs are in doubt.
So don`t belive all that is proposed as sure in most cases it won`t happen...as history has proved. Planners have a poor record of knowing whats best or required, or we would not be in the mess we are in now.
While we are on the subject of planners, What fool has nrw houses built with such small bedrooms, a double bedroom should be a minimum of 15ft by 10ft and a single 8ft by 10ft. I wonder how many meet that room size. Anything smaller you struggle to get funiture to fit. Same with garages how many can you drive an average car into and open the door fully to get out. .....Total disregard for what is required....planners are often a waste of space.
Back to the posting....Disney world it will never be..........we are not that clever...and .we need homes not hotel rooms.
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28/07/2009, 8:59 AM
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viking
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I know that there is a tradition of summer madness in the press but this looks as though Broadland District Council are co-conspiritors and that would worry anyone.
If they just add a Lakeside style Shopping extravaganza to the proposals you could reach a level of hysteria in which a little ole eco-town would look positively desirable.
Note to self. Join SNUB
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28/07/2009, 8:59 AM
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Storm
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Take a good long look at Norfolk now, especially in the Broadland area, as I fear it is never going to look the same again.
Ordinary Joe may well have a say, but this will be ignored, as money talks, and nothing stands in its way.
What I also find interesting that both the Eco town and Disney world have both planned lakes or some areas of water just to fit in with Broadland you know.
Before too long there will be nothing left of our beautiful countryside it will have been destroyed. I also forgot to mention Hmp Coltishall, which is also in the same area.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7845354.stm
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28/07/2009, 9:31 AM
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gardener
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Perhaps I might add that I had a good rant about this on the Broads thread- it makes me sick that the BA protects the very narrow confines of the actual rivers and broads so well then the district councils allow the suburbanisation of the rural areas and settlements immediately adjacent. Its like building a ring of hotels all around the base of Snowdon so they can get a good view of the mountain.
Conference centres do not need to be in rural areas, the people attending are meant to be in conference, not riding about to country pubs in their company cars. The best place for them is in cities where they can be reached by public transport and the facilities can serve multi purposes and existing businesses can benefit from the spin off.
I think we need to be told how much Broadland Council knew about this when the eco town was proposed and if any local interests are too close for comfort. Come on EDP- dig, not be the usual lap dogs of local spivs.
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28/07/2009, 5:48 PM
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Storm
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Reading between the lines, this is probably how it goes in Northeast Norfolk.
Speculators looking in the Uk for somewhere to build a Disney World, conference/tourist centre. They have a look at N/E Norfolk, beautiful area, near the Broads, but unfortunately has one or two blots on the landscape namely Rackheath Industrial Site and former RAF Coltishall, soon to be HMP Coltishall. With the likelihood of the NDR being built close by, and the possible building of Rackheath Eco town. Absolutely ideal, slip the plans in quietly, with everything else that is going on, shouldn't have too much in the way of objections, with high unemployment you use the old job creation chestnut, and money in local economy, how could anyone object.
I am beginning to wonder what else is going on behind Joe publics back, how many more planning application are going to be put in over the next few years, realising that that the granting of these will be just a formality, after the usual protests.
Haven’t Anglian Water now installing a massive new pipeline from Costessey into the treatment works at Heigham, just for backup you know, is it really it couldn’t possibly be for the massive development planned in the Norfolk countryside could it? http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED16%20Jul%202009%2020%3A23%3A35%3A527
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29/07/2009, 8:06 PM
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Storm
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29/07/2009, 8:59 PM
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Storm
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SNUB is a local pressure group of residents, from Salhouse and Rackheath, which has been formed to stop the creeping urbanisation of Norwich into our ...
Just added a link for S N U B that was mentioned at the bottom of a previous post.
http://www.salhousevillage.org.uk/SNUB.pdf
I don't live in the immediate area, but I am getting very concerned at the plans that are being put forward, for this area, and for Norfolk in general. Perhaps we should start do make ourselves heard before all is lost. There are some petitions that we could put our names to at the very least, these people need some support. Perhaps some of those North Norwich candidates that spent thousands of pounds on the recent political campaigns could offer some help to the folk around Norwich, who look like they are to about to have their lives blighted. They would gain far more credibility for forthcoming elections then they ever could door knocking of having thousands of pamphlets or dvd's printed and posted. Think about it.
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30/07/2009, 9:14 AM
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Storm
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30/07/2009, 1:18 PM
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Bufftheorpington
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With unemployment they way it is, it is inevitable that all this will go ahead, some countryside campaign is not going to stop the might of the developers.
To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human?
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30/07/2009, 9:05 PM
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Storm
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Yes you are quite right, very little will stop this massive building plan. Gordon Browns plan is to build our way out of recession. See: "http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/jul/12/houseprices.communities"
And of course, long term it won't work. It would appear the plans are being rushed through, probably in an attempt for this sad government to hold on to power.
A politician has told me that basically it won’t work. Do to the fact that as a country we produce very little. It goes something like, money is borrowed to build, workforce are employed and in turn have more money in pocket to spend, which will stimulate the economy. Problem is most of the merchandise they buy is made in China or somewhere else, being of far more benefit to them and little to us. Apparently it all relates to this.
"http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/KeynesianEconomics.html"
The county is in one huge muddle and has been for longer than anyone would care to mention, all that is happening is the process of buying time, muddling through. But inevitably the crunch will come at some point over the next few years. We have travelled too far down the road to ruin.
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